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HopFan16 wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 9:21 am

- Need a new man-down D specialist without Ruddy. I think Stoebner is a good candidate for this but who knows.

- Hawley frees up wing reps for a short-stick. The existing SSDMs + Aviles may absorb most of this. That said, this is a spot where if a freshman happens to show a preternatural ability to scoop up GBs then they're going to get him on the field.

One other thing is, for now at least, Todaro is healthy. He was getting some playing time last year before getting hurt. He's the only guy we have "returning from injury" as far as I can tell. The giant caveat to all of this of course is there unfortunately will be injuries which may free up more time for some of the younger guys. But you can only go off what you know now.
Stoebner is a shut down defenseman with size. I doubt he would have transferred in from Princeton unless he felt he had a good chance at a starting role.
Zach Claiborne looks like an impressive athlete with size and I could see him getting some runs at SSDM.
From interviews, it's clear this staff wants this team to take the next step. To do that you have to make some tough decisions on PT.
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Re: Johns Hopkins 2024

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Sagittarius A* wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 10:54 am
HopFan16 wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 9:21 am

- Need a new man-down D specialist without Ruddy. I think Stoebner is a good candidate for this but who knows.

- Hawley frees up wing reps for a short-stick. The existing SSDMs + Aviles may absorb most of this. That said, this is a spot where if a freshman happens to show a preternatural ability to scoop up GBs then they're going to get him on the field.

One other thing is, for now at least, Todaro is healthy. He was getting some playing time last year before getting hurt. He's the only guy we have "returning from injury" as far as I can tell. The giant caveat to all of this of course is there unfortunately will be injuries which may free up more time for some of the younger guys. But you can only go off what you know now.
Stoebner is a shut down defenseman with size. I doubt he would have transferred in from Princeton unless he felt he had a good chance at a starting role.
Zach Claiborne looks like an impressive athlete with size and I could see him getting some runs at SSDM.
From interviews, it's clear this staff wants this team to take the next step. To do that you have to make some tough decisions on PT.
You don't know anything about Stoebner apart from a one-sentence blurb that mentioned he did a good job covering a Yale attackman in spot duty. He was not a starting close defenseman for Princeton for most of the season. And yes I'm pretty sure he still would have transferred in given he wants to go to med school and there's no better place in the world to prep for that than Hopkins.

"To do that you have to make some tough decisions on PT." — yes absolutely this is true except I think you're drawing the exact opposite conclusion that you should. The most likely scenario is that on a very competitive team that already has Final Four aspirations it might be difficult for several freshmen to have meaningful roles, as is nearly always the case in teams like that.
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Re: Johns Hopkins 2024

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Sagittarius A* wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 10:54 am
HopFan16 wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 9:21 am

- Need a new man-down D specialist without Ruddy. I think Stoebner is a good candidate for this but who knows.

- Hawley frees up wing reps for a short-stick. The existing SSDMs + Aviles may absorb most of this. That said, this is a spot where if a freshman happens to show a preternatural ability to scoop up GBs then they're going to get him on the field.

One other thing is, for now at least, Todaro is healthy. He was getting some playing time last year before getting hurt. He's the only guy we have "returning from injury" as far as I can tell. The giant caveat to all of this of course is there unfortunately will be injuries which may free up more time for some of the younger guys. But you can only go off what you know now.
Stoebner is a shut down defenseman with size. I doubt he would have transferred in from Princeton unless he felt he had a good chance at a starting role.
Zach Claiborne looks like an impressive athlete with size and I could see him getting some runs at SSDM.
From interviews, it's clear this staff wants this team to take the next step. To do that you have to make some tough decisions on PT.
You are saying a guy that was 4th in the close defense rotation for Princeton is a shut down defender. He started vs Penn, Brown, Yale and Rutgers in March/April time frame. He did not start in the tournament games. Princeton has solid poles, but not a single first-team All-Ivy defender. Perhaps he takes a big step forward in his last year, but this is some serious Kool-Aid.
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Re: Johns Hopkins 2024

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IL's list of top transfers/impacts:

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... 2024/62094

"24. Jacob Stoebner, D, Princeton to Johns Hopkins (7GB, 7CT in 12 games)
23. Jake Bonomi, M, Michigan to Notre Dame (13G, 2A in 17 games)
22. Brandon Avlies, SSDM, Syracuse to Johns Hopkins (1G, 16GB, 3CT in 10 games)

4. Chayse Ierlan, G, Cornell to Johns Hopkins (52.2% 11.13 GAA in 15 games)
Ierlan’s save percentage doesn’t look as good as it should because of the last few games of the season; he was a bona fide top-three All-America candidate through the majority of the season and addresses a significant question mark for the Blue Jays. Not only that, but he benefits from existing familiarity with coach Pete Milliman, having been recruited by him and played for him in 2020. Hopkins’ defense isn’t the same as Cornell’s, so Ierlan will have to adjust to that."
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Re: Johns Hopkins 2024

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Sagittarius A* wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 1:28 pm IL's list of top transfers/impacts:

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... 2024/62094

"24. Jacob Stoebner, D, Princeton to Johns Hopkins (7GB, 7CT in 12 games)
23. Jake Bonomi, M, Michigan to Notre Dame (13G, 2A in 17 games)
22. Brandon Avlies, SSDM, Syracuse to Johns Hopkins (1G, 16GB, 3CT in 10 games)

4. Chayse Ierlan, G, Cornell to Johns Hopkins (52.2% 11.13 GAA in 15 games)
Ierlan’s save percentage doesn’t look as good as it should because of the last few games of the season; he was a bona fide top-three All-America candidate through the majority of the season and addresses a significant question mark for the Blue Jays. Not only that, but he benefits from existing familiarity with coach Pete Milliman, having been recruited by him and played for him in 2020. Hopkins’ defense isn’t the same as Cornell’s, so Ierlan will have to adjust to that."
This is a nice list, but being on in it does not mean you are a top 30 player.
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With sports you never know - just ask the NY Jets or the Cleveland Browns today - but logic dictates that given relative health - you want Szuluk/Smith and Brown as your starting defensemen - and Deans and Kaufman as your LSMs. Why on God's green Earth would you take Brown out of the line-up? - potential to be a star - 21 GBs and 14 CTO's (both higher than Stoebner but Brown played in more games) as a freshman and you NEED him in the worst way for '25 as Szuluk/Stoebner have to depart - Smith could theoretically depart as could Deans (hoping both will be set up to return of course). Interrupting his development - unless Petro or Brodie Merrill was walking through the door maybe - would be insane. Stoebner is likely there for defensive depth and maybe the man down role.
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Very early schedule release: https://twitter.com/jhumenslacrosse/sta ... 2027436115

2/3 vs. Denver
2/6 vs. Towson
2/10 @ Georgetown
2/17 vs. Loyola
2/24 @ UNC
3/2 @ Virginia
3/9 vs. Syracuse in Charlotte
3/16 vs. Navy
3/23 @ Rutgers
3/30 vs. Michigan
4/6 vs. Penn State
4/13 @ Ohio State
4/20 vs. Maryland

Jacksonville, St. Joe's, Utah, and Delaware are out.

Denver and Towson are in. Princeton still not back yet

Two fewer games than last year and only one midweek (at home vs. Towson). This is the schedule of a team that thinks it's going places.
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HopFan16 wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 7:20 pm Very early schedule release: https://twitter.com/jhumenslacrosse/sta ... 2027436115

2/3 vs. Denver
2/6 vs. Towson
2/10 @ Georgetown
2/17 vs. Loyola
2/24 @ UNC
3/2 @ Virginia
3/9 vs. Syracuse in Charlotte
3/16 vs. Navy
3/23 @ Rutgers
3/30 vs. Michigan
4/6 vs. Penn State
4/13 @ Ohio State
4/20 vs. Maryland

Jacksonville, St. Joe's, Utah, and Delaware are out.

Denver and Towson are in. Princeton still not back yet

Two fewer games than last year and only one midweek (at home vs. Towson). This is the schedule of a team that thinks it's going places.
Very good schedule. Given the roster, I probably would have schedule a couple more “winnable” games - RPI be damned - to make sure everyone gets some minutes and to goose the stats a bit. But very happy with this schedule.
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18 total games last year,
so 16 games this year to get Hop to the Quarters, 18 to the finals(?) -
I wonder how much difference there is for a team, 18 total games versus 20 ?
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'Cuse in Charlotte. Boo.
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nyjay wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 10:59 pm
HopFan16 wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 7:20 pm Very early schedule release: https://twitter.com/jhumenslacrosse/sta ... 2027436115

2/3 vs. Denver
2/6 vs. Towson
2/10 @ Georgetown
2/17 vs. Loyola
2/24 @ UNC
3/2 @ Virginia
3/9 vs. Syracuse in Charlotte
3/16 vs. Navy
3/23 @ Rutgers
3/30 vs. Michigan
4/6 vs. Penn State
4/13 @ Ohio State
4/20 vs. Maryland

Jacksonville, St. Joe's, Utah, and Delaware are out.

Denver and Towson are in. Princeton still not back yet

Two fewer games than last year and only one midweek (at home vs. Towson). This is the schedule of a team that thinks it's going places.
Very good schedule. Given the roster, I probably would have schedule a couple more “winnable” games - RPI be damned - to make sure everyone gets some minutes and to goose the stats a bit. But very happy with this schedule.
I wouldn't mind a 14th game against UMBC or Albany or something, but then that's another midweek game that puts you on short rest against Virginia or Carolina. I can see the logic in keeping it at 13.

Jax, St. Joe's, Utah, and Delaware were RPI no man's land games. Last year they weren't good enough to count as quality RPI wins, but they also weren't "easy" games either where you can clear your bench, play 40 guys and rest the starters in the second half. There's little upside in games like that. They're more likely to hurt you come playoff selection time. Not surprised to see them off the schedule.
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Re: Johns Hopkins 2024

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HopFan16 wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 8:38 am
I wouldn't mind a 14th game against UMBC or Albany or something, but then that's another midweek game that puts you on short rest against Virginia or Carolina. I can see the logic in keeping it at 13.

Jax, St. Joe's, Utah, and Delaware were RPI no man's land games. Last year they weren't good enough to count as quality RPI wins, but they also weren't "easy" games either where you can clear your bench, play 40 guys and rest the starters in the second half. There's little upside in games like that. They're more likely to hurt you come playoff selection time. Not surprised to see them off the schedule.
It will be interesting to see if Denver is still a powerhouse without Bill Tierney.
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HopFan16 wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 7:20 pm Very early schedule release: https://twitter.com/jhumenslacrosse/sta ... 2027436115

2/3 vs. Denver
2/6 vs. Towson
2/10 @ Georgetown
2/17 vs. Loyola
2/24 @ UNC
3/2 @ Virginia
3/9 vs. Syracuse in Charlotte
3/16 vs. Navy
3/23 @ Rutgers
3/30 vs. Michigan
4/6 vs. Penn State
4/13 @ Ohio State
4/20 vs. Maryland

Jacksonville, St. Joe's, Utah, and Delaware are out.

Denver and Towson are in. Princeton still not back yet

Two fewer games than last year and only one midweek (at home vs. Towson). This is the schedule of a team that thinks it's going places.
Should win Denver/Towson/Navy/Ohio State/Michigan
Toss up Penn State Rutgers Syracuse Georgetown
Opponent favored UNC UVA Loyola Maryland

Credit to the program releasing this now. I think this used to come out around December although other schools would release theirs earlier so the games would trickle out. I'm sure there will be an interview explaining some of the changes you referenced which go beyond "conflicts".

The other part is that coming off last years stronger season, I think the program knows that there will be more ticket and general interest and getting this out earlier gives them more time to sell the group.

Denver's been a preseason game for awhile so I guess we're getting a new january matchup.

Trip to Georgetown means another tangle with flosports.
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It's a very good - on paper extremely competitive schedule. There are zero games, however, where you say - Oh of course that's a win. Your home slate in the BIG is the defending BIG tournament champs - a National semi-finalist in Penn State and the recent Homewood nemesis and perennial power Maryland. Only Ohio State and Towson had losing records last year. Every game Ohio State played in Columbus was competitive - alot of games on the road were blow-outs. And while Towson's only really good win last year was late in the season against Delaware they played most games close - Loyola in OT - Denver by 2 - largest margin of defeat was 7 against UVA. It's certainly a schedule that should get you the RPI you want/need. Other thoughts:

- In line with the above thoughts those of you looking forward to the 3rd mid-field line and significant contributions from alot of freshmen: Magic 8 ball says "Outlook not so good". I shook it again and I saw "Don't Count on it". 23-25 players virtually all of these games.
- Your predictions are amusing '06 - Not sure why Loyola is favored - not saying the Hounds can't or won't win but they shouldn't be favored. Hopkins has won the last two of the last 3 at Homewood I believe. If Angelus and Melendez play I don't think it will be the drecch we saw last year. 62 names on the North Carolina Roster - that's kind of a bell weather game for me - No excuses about tired legs.
- 10 Stone - assuming the BIG keeps the format from last year - possible to play 3 games in the BIG - so you could play the exact same number of games as last year before the NCAA - of course if you are in the bottom four of the BIG - you maybe have some work to do to make the NCAAs.
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It's a very good - on paper extremely competitive schedule. There are zero games, however, where you say - Oh of course that's a win. Your home slate in the BIG is the defending BIG tournament champs - a National semi-finalist in Penn State and the recent Homewood nemesis and perennial power Maryland. Only Ohio State and Towson had losing records last year. Every game Ohio State played in Columbus was competitive - alot of games on the road were blow-outs. And while Towson's only really good win last year was late in the season against Delaware they played most games close - Loyola in OT - Denver by 2 - largest margin of defeat was 7 against UVA. It's certainly a schedule that should get you the RPI you want/need. Other thoughts:

- In line with the above thoughts those of you looking forward to the 3rd mid-field line and significant contributions from alot of freshmen: Magic 8 ball says "Outlook not so good". I shook it again and I saw "Don't Count on it". 23-25 players virtually all of these games.
- Your predictions are amusing '06 - Not sure why Loyola is favored - not saying the Hounds can't or won't win but they shouldn't be favored. Hopkins has won the last two of the last 3 at Homewood I believe. If Angelus and Melendez play I don't think it will be the drecch we saw last year. 62 names on the North Carolina Roster - that's kind of a bell weather game for me - No excuses about tired legs.
- 10 Stone - assuming the BIG keeps the format from last year - possible to play 3 games in the BIG - so you could play the exact same number of games as last year before the NCAA - of course if you are in the bottom four of the BIG - you maybe have some work to do to make the NCAAs.
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jhu06 wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 8:57 am Should win Denver/Towson/Navy/Ohio State/Michigan
Toss up Penn State Rutgers Syracuse Georgetown
Opponent favored UNC UVA Loyola Maryland
It's a new world out there. I expect the top ten to look differently than it has recently and for there to be more parity. Towson should be a win. I doubt Hop (who should be a top ten team) will be underdogs to UNC or Loyola, neither of whom is going to be great this year. No idea how good Denver will be, but yes Hop will be favored. Navy should be better next year (they were hugely disappointing last year for some reason), and that game is always closer than it seems it should be. OSU and Rutgers should both be similar to last year, i.e. meh, but both still dangerous. I tend to believe Michigan, Penn State and Georgetown will regress somewhat. Not sure what to think of Maryland - they'll be very, very good, but don't think they're the juggernaut they've been recently. UVA will be a legit NC contender again.
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We're still doing the September predict wins and losses game? I guess Dr. Sweatpants didn't learn from Sag A's "hard to see how they get to 7 wins" prognostication from last year.

Georgetown loses the majority of its scoring, along with their best defenseman in Will Bowen and their top FOGO and goalie. Still, February road game on short rest...gonna be tough.

Denver is an interesting team. New era for them but they bring a lot back from last year. Ironic that we start playing them right after Tierney retires.
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51percentcorn wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 10:46 am It's a very good - on paper extremely competitive schedule. There are zero games, however, where you say - Oh of course that's a win. Your home slate in the BIG is the defending BIG tournament champs - a National semi-finalist in Penn State and the recent Homewood nemesis and perennial power Maryland. Only Ohio State and Towson had losing records last year. Every game Ohio State played in Columbus was competitive - alot of games on the road were blow-outs. And while Towson's only really good win last year was late in the season against Delaware they played most games close - Loyola in OT - Denver by 2 - largest margin of defeat was 7 against UVA. It's certainly a schedule that should get you the RPI you want/need. Other thoughts:

- In line with the above thoughts those of you looking forward to the 3rd mid-field line and significant contributions from alot of freshmen: Magic 8 ball says "Outlook not so good". I shook it again and I saw "Don't Count on it". 23-25 players virtually all of these games.
- Your predictions are amusing '06 - Not sure why Loyola is favored - not saying the Hounds can't or won't win but they shouldn't be favored. Hopkins has won the last two of the last 3 at Homewood I believe. If Angelus and Melendez play I don't think it will be the drecch we saw last year. 62 names on the North Carolina Roster - that's kind of a bell weather game for me - No excuses about tired legs.
- 10 Stone - assuming the BIG keeps the format from last year - possible to play 3 games in the BIG - so you could play the exact same number of games as last year before the NCAA - of course if you are in the bottom four of the BIG - you maybe have some work to do to make the NCAAs.
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Saturday, April 27 - Quarterfinals @ #3 and 4 seeds
Thursday, May 2 - Saturday, May 4) - Semifinals/Final @ Ohio State^
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Re: Johns Hopkins 2024

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HopFan16 wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:37 pm We're still doing the September predict wins and losses game? I guess Dr. Sweatpants didn't learn from Sag A's "hard to see how they get to 7 wins" prognostication from last year.
I predict 6 wins next Spring.
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Re: Johns Hopkins 2024

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HopFan16 wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:37 pm We're still doing the September predict wins and losses game? I guess Dr. Sweatpants didn't learn from Sag A's "hard to see how they get to 7 wins" prognostication from last year.

Georgetown loses the majority of its scoring, along with their best defenseman in Will Bowen and their top FOGO and goalie. Still, February road game on short rest...gonna be tough.

Denver is an interesting team. New era for them but they bring a lot back from last year. Ironic that we start playing them right after Tierney retires.
I will throw in that the Georgetown game for hop will be coming off of the Hoyas first game against loyola the weekend prior.

Whatever the prior weeks result is going to be, look for the that team to play with an edge against JHU.

I’d argue that the February schedule for hopkins is one that they will fare well with given the team makeup.The only team remotely close to that february gauntlet is loyola as they open with Gtown, UMD, you guys, towson and then Rutgers
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