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You continue to understate the value of the PE firm & the other-than-Saudi investment.
I posted the Reuters link reporting they had > $3 billion in investors @ Dec 2021.

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:53 pm

ggait wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:04 am Saudis were the first and only investor in Jared’s fund in mid 2021 when they put in the $2B. The anchor tenant.

UAE subsequently put in $200M. Qatar subsequently put in $200M. Those are called “subsequent” closings salty. They happened later and only after the Saudis went first.

As the Saudi investment board stated, the risk and investment of Jared’s fund was going to be mostly on them. If you knew anything about pe, you would know how effed up that is.

If Jared’s fund was such a good deal, how come no typical pe funders wanted to play? Where are the university endowments and pension funds? How come only me governments want play?

You continue to understate the value of the PE firm & the other-than-Saudi investment.
I posted the Reuters link reporting they had > $3 billion in investors @ Dec 2021.

The Saudis are far from the only investors. You also ignore the timing. The Saudi investment was made when Trump's prospects & Kushner's future influence were at their nadir. Trump had lost the election, was under fire for losing the Senate, contesting the election, facing impeachment & other litigation. Kushner disagreed with what Trump was doing after the election & headed overseas. He stated he was done with future govt service.
It's not surprising that MSB differed with the Saudi investment board, how many of them or their cousins had he put under house arrest when he came to power as the new power broker in the House of Saud ?

ggait wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:15 pm

That is unless the judge puts the breaks on it until some of this hinky stuff is sorted out. Find out who is lying and who is telling the truth. That would be a prudent move at this point.

What a forking stubborn maroon.

Until today, Cradle didn't even know that judges have to approve plea deals. And now you are a freaking expert on this?

This is not going to happen dude.

I will repeat my offer to you. 5-1 odds; unlimited dollars. I'm going that the judge will approve the plea deal in July as planned. With zero "hinky stuff." With zero new special counsel. With no "fresh hell."

Blocking you now. But I'll be back in July to remind everyone how stupid your conspiracies were.

SMH

Bigfoot! Bigfoot! Bigfoot!

ggait wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:25 pm

You continue to understate the value of the PE firm & the other-than-Saudi investment.
I posted the Reuters link reporting they had > $3 billion in investors @ Dec 2021.

Hey Salty Doofus -- unlike you, I know what a Form ADV is.

Affinity Partners' ADV lists commitments of exaclty $3,055,804,564.

If you want to tell us of anyone other than the Saudis (at $2B) and UAE and Qatar at $200k, please do so.

Crickets.....

One can only assume they are other Middle East governments. But if there's a university endowment or a state pension fund in there, I'm all ears.

Otherwise, STFU.

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:33 pm

ggait wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:25 pm

You continue to understate the value of the PE firm & the other-than-Saudi investment.
I posted the Reuters link reporting they had > $3 billion in investors @ Dec 2021.

Hey Salty Doofus -- unlike you, I know what a Form ADV is.

Affinity Partners' ADV lists commitments of exaclty $3,055,804,564.

If you want to tell us of anyone other than the Saudis (at $2B) and UAE and Qatar at $200k, please do so.

Crickets.....

One can only assume they are other Middle East governments. But if there's a university endowment or a state pension fund in there, I'm all ears.

Otherwise, STFU.

So it's not just MBS & the Saudis. Thank you for finally acknowledging that.

ggait wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:04 am Saudis were the first and only investor in Jared’s fund in mid 2021 when they put in the $2B. The anchor tenant.

UAE subsequently put in $200M. Qatar subsequently put in $200M. Those are called “subsequent” closings salty. They happened later and only after the Saudis went first.

As the Saudi investment board stated, the risk and investment of Jared’s fund was going to be mostly on them. If you knew anything about pe, you would know how effed up that is.

If Jared’s fund was such a good deal, how come no typical pe funders wanted to play? Where are the university endowments and pension funds? How come only me governments want play?

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:45 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:33 pm

ggait wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:25 pm

You continue to understate the value of the PE firm & the other-than-Saudi investment.
I posted the Reuters link reporting they had > $3 billion in investors @ Dec 2021.

Hey Salty Doofus -- unlike you, I know what a Form ADV is.

Affinity Partners' ADV lists commitments of exaclty $3,055,804,564.

If you want to tell us of anyone other than the Saudis (at $2B) and UAE and Qatar at $200k, please do so.

Crickets.....

One can only assume they are other Middle East governments. But if there's a university endowment or a state pension fund in there, I'm all ears.

Otherwise, STFU.

So it's not just MBS & the Saudis. Thank you for finally acknowledging that.

good lord you are stubborn cuss...he made that clear multiple times. But it's irrelevant to the point.

Why don't you just agree that it's "sleazy AF" and agree that it ain't "criminal" far as we know?

Simple.

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:58 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:45 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:33 pm

ggait wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:25 pm

You continue to understate the value of the PE firm & the other-than-Saudi investment.
I posted the Reuters link reporting they had > $3 billion in investors @ Dec 2021.

Hey Salty Doofus -- unlike you, I know what a Form ADV is.

Affinity Partners' ADV lists commitments of exaclty $3,055,804,564.

If you want to tell us of anyone other than the Saudis (at $2B) and UAE and Qatar at $200k, please do so.

Crickets.....

One can only assume they are other Middle East governments. But if there's a university endowment or a state pension fund in there, I'm all ears.

Otherwise, STFU.

So it's not just MBS & the Saudis. Thank you for finally acknowledging that.

good lord you are stubborn cuss...he made that clear multiple times. But it's irrelevant to the point.

Why don't you just agree that it's "sleazy AF" and agree that it ain't "criminal" far as we know?

Simple.

I'll agree that it's sleazy if it turns out to be a losing (or illegal) investment for the founding members.

What meaningful political influence has Kushner provided since the investments were made ?
What access & to whom does Kushner provide ?

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:13 pm Do you apply an equally generous assumption to Hunter not being "sleazy AF"?

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:30 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:13 pm Do you apply an equally generous assumption to Hunter not being "sleazy AF"?

I'm eager to learn more about what services were rendered.

Where's the Form ADV for that ?

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:46 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:30 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:13 pm Do you apply an equally generous assumption to Hunter not being "sleazy AF"?

I'm eager to learn more about what services were rendered.

Where's the Form ADV for that ?

Is that an answer to me, or do you agree with me (and ggait) that Hunter's positions earning him nice dough despite no real credibility beyond family name were..."sleazy AF" but also not criminal?

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:58 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:45 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:33 pm

ggait wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:25 pm

You continue to understate the value of the PE firm & the other-than-Saudi investment.
I posted the Reuters link reporting they had > $3 billion in investors @ Dec 2021.

Hey Salty Doofus -- unlike you, I know what a Form ADV is.

Affinity Partners' ADV lists commitments of exaclty $3,055,804,564.

If you want to tell us of anyone other than the Saudis (at $2B) and UAE and Qatar at $200k, please do so.

Crickets.....

One can only assume they are other Middle East governments. But if there's a university endowment or a state pension fund in there, I'm all ears.

Otherwise, STFU.

So it's not just MBS & the Saudis. Thank you for finally acknowledging that.

good lord you are stubborn cuss...he made that clear multiple times. But it's irrelevant to the point.

Why don't you just agree that it's "sleazy AF" and agree that it ain't "criminal" far as we know?

Simple.

I'll agree that it's sleazy if it turns out to be a losing (or illegal) investment for the founding members.

a fan wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 7:05 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:58 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:45 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:33 pm

ggait wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:25 pm

You continue to understate the value of the PE firm & the other-than-Saudi investment.
I posted the Reuters link reporting they had > $3 billion in investors @ Dec 2021.

Hey Salty Doofus -- unlike you, I know what a Form ADV is.

Affinity Partners' ADV lists commitments of exaclty $3,055,804,564.

If you want to tell us of anyone other than the Saudis (at $2B) and UAE and Qatar at $200k, please do so.

Crickets.....

One can only assume they are other Middle East governments. But if there's a university endowment or a state pension fund in there, I'm all ears.

Otherwise, STFU.

So it's not just MBS & the Saudis. Thank you for finally acknowledging that.

good lord you are stubborn cuss...he made that clear multiple times. But it's irrelevant to the point.

Why don't you just agree that it's "sleazy AF" and agree that it ain't "criminal" far as we know?

Simple.

I'll agree that it's sleazy if it turns out to be a losing (or illegal) investment for the founding members.

So the bar is: if Burisma is profitable, Hunter can get paid millions for no obvious reason while Daddy's VP and doing work in Ukraine?

Really?

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 7:53 pm Unless proven otherwise, Kushner's venture was a legal, legit enterprise. He founded the company, in a field in which he had experience.

What did Hunter do for Burisma ? He was a token BOD member.

a fan wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 8:16 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 7:53 pm Unless proven otherwise, Kushner's venture was a legal, legit enterprise. He founded the company, in a field in which he had experience.

What did Hunter do for Burisma ? He was a token BOD member.

Both are 100% legal. Both are examples of influence peddling, where there is NO WAY they would be dealing with either Kush or Hunter if it weren't for the .gov connection. We'll read about why the Saudis gave Kush this money in books in about a decade or so.

Same for Burisma.

Kush's grift is worse because he was a Federal employee. I'm not looking forward to hearing what he sold out to get that money.

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 8:36 pm Kush's actions came after he left govt service. There was no diplomatic or political advantage for his investors to partner wIth him at that point -- just the opposite. They opened themselves to criticism & will have to answer for any losses. Have you considered the possibility that it might prove to be a profitable investment.

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 8:36 pm Do you dispute that our relations with the Arab nations in the ME improved under Trump & that progress was made for our ally Israel ?

a fan wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 8:51 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 8:36 pm Kush's actions came after he left govt service. There was no diplomatic or political advantage for his investors to partner wIth him at that point -- just the opposite. They opened themselves to criticism & will have to answer for any losses. Have you considered the possibility that it might prove to be a profitable investment.

Sure. It's possible. Have you considered the possibility that Kush exchanged something when he WAS in government, and the Saudis waited until he left before paying him off? Too late to matter. Kushner couldn't help him any more. He was out of power.

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 8:36 pm Do you dispute that our relations with the Arab nations in the ME improved under Trump & that progress was made for our ally Israel ?

Now you're handing me the smoking gun. How do you not see this?

Read this last sentence of yours out loud for me. Then remember that the Saudis dropped $2 Billion into Kush's investment fund, and didn't report it to the SEC, using a loophole to keep from reporting it.

1+1=2, right? You don't see the problem here?

After the 2018 murder of Saudi dissident Jamal Khashoggi by Saudi agents in Istanbul, Kushner refused to condemn the atrocity, and the Trump administration offered at best minimal pushback.

Trump later bragged of Crown Prince Mohammed that he had "saved his a**," after he opposed congressional action against the Saudi ruler in response to the Khashoggi killing, according to a 2020 book by journalist Bob Woodward.

Who's got the tin foil hat on ? The Trump Admin judged that improving & maintaining relations with Saudi Arabia was more important.
Khashoggi couldn't be brought back. He knew he was at risk & foolishly exposed himself. We needed the Saudis as a military & economic ally, & still do. Realpolitik. We still promote trade & investment & have diplomatic relations with China, ignoring what they're doing to the Uyghurs.

https://www.businessinsider.com/jared-k ... rns-2023-2

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:00 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 8:51 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 8:36 pm Kush's actions came after he left govt service. There was no diplomatic or political advantage for his investors to partner wIth him at that point -- just the opposite. They opened themselves to criticism & will have to answer for any losses. Have you considered the possibility that it might prove to be a profitable investment.

Sure. It's possible. Have you considered the possibility that Kush exchanged something when he WAS in government, and the Saudis waited until he left before paying him off? Too late to matter. Kushner couldn't help him any more. He was out of power.

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 8:36 pm Do you dispute that our relations with the Arab nations in the ME improved under Trump & that progress was made for our ally Israel ?

Now you're handing me the smoking gun. How do you not see this?

Read this last sentence of yours out loud for me. Then remember that the Saudis dropped $2 Billion into Kush's investment fund, and didn't report it to the SEC, using a loophole to keep from reporting it.

1+1=2, right? You don't see the problem here?

After the 2018 murder of Saudi dissident Jamal Khashoggi by Saudi agents in Istanbul, Kushner refused to condemn the atrocity, and the Trump administration offered at best minimal pushback.

Trump later bragged of Crown Prince Mohammed that he had "saved his a**," after he opposed congressional action against the Saudi ruler in response to the Khashoggi killing, according to a 2020 book by journalist Bob Woodward.

Who's got the tin foil hat on ? The Trump Admin judged that improving & maintaining relations with Saudi Arabia was more important.
Khashoggi couldn't be brought back. He knew he was at risk & foolishly exposed himself. We needed the Saudis as a military & economic ally, & still do. Realpolitik. We still promote trade & investment & have diplomatic relations with China, ignoring what they're doing to the Uyghurs.

https://www.businessinsider.com/jared-k ... rns-2023-2

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:00 pm Who's got the tin foil hat on ? The Trump Admin judged that improving & maintaining relations with Saudi Arabia was more important.
Khashoggi couldn't be brought back. He knew he was at risk & foolishly exposed himself. We needed the Saudis as a military & economic ally, & still do. Realpolitik. We still promote trade & investment & have diplomatic relations with China, ignoring what they're doing to the Uyghurs.[/color]