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Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:08 pm
by 6ftstick
jhu72 wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:00 pm
6ftstick wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:30 am Finding this hard to understand.

Mailin and absentee ballots are already being cast.

2 months prior to election day.

Why Oh Why do democrats need 2,3,6,12 days after election day to "count" them?

Could it be democrats want to win the election AFTER the real election?

Sounds pretty politburo to me.
this is the reaction to republiCONS sabotaging the USPS.
Prove it.

Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:22 pm
by RedFromMI
wgdsr wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:58 am
RedFromMI wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:37 am
6ftstick wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:30 am Finding this hard to understand.

Mailin and absentee ballots are already being cast.

2 months prior to election day.

Why Oh Why do democrats need 2,3,6,12 days after election day to "count" them?

Could it be democrats want to win the election AFTER the real election?

Sounds pretty politburo to me.
No - most of the states do not actually start counting the ballots until on the election day itself, and if you are overwhelmed by the numbers of mailed in ballots, it may take many days to do so. There are a few states that are allowing the mail ballot counting process to begin before the election day.

And given the current vagaries of PO delivery as the USPS intentionally gets run into the ground by the current administration, there is some question as to whether the mail system will actually be allowed to deliver the mail in a truly timely manner.

As for me, I will not trust a mailed ballot, but SC allows this year for no excuse absentee voting. So October 5 or so when the voter offices open, I will take the trip to the county election office and cast my vote directly in that office. Our new state system will actually count my ballot as I enter the paper output into the counter right then and there, and the vote can just be read off the machine on election day.
let's just all agree that our politicians and our citizens are all idiots for being in the spot we're in, given our self-proclaimed shining city upon a hill status.

when looking at potential purple states over the summer, sc was the only one i saw that didn't look like it would allow for expanded/universal mail in or no excuse early absentee. did that change recently or did i hear/remember that wrong?
SC recently passed a law to modify (I believe for this election only) a few things - main thing for me is no excuse needed for absentee voting. Used to be if you were 65 or older you did not need an excuse. I would have voted the same way anyway, as I would just tell them I was planning on being out of town, and then later I could change plans to be in town...

Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:23 pm
by Peter Brown
6ftstick wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:30 am Finding this hard to understand.

Mailin and absentee ballots are already being cast.

2 months prior to election day.

Why Oh Why do democrats need 2,3,6,12 days after election day to "count" them?

Could it be democrats want to win the election AFTER the real election?

Sounds pretty politburo to me.


You’ll be met with the usual ‘no we aren’t cheating’ but the same persons will tell you if a guy walks into an office a few days late and wants to cast a ballot then we need to accept that too!

Anyway, we all know the gig here. Democratic lawyers will fly to wherever the vote is close enough to get sympathetic judges to accept ballots even if they’re cast weeks afterward. This is the new game they play.

Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:35 pm
by MDlaxfan76
6ftstick wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:08 pm
jhu72 wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:00 pm
6ftstick wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:30 am Finding this hard to understand.

Mailin and absentee ballots are already being cast.

2 months prior to election day.

Why Oh Why do democrats need 2,3,6,12 days after election day to "count" them?

Could it be democrats want to win the election AFTER the real election?

Sounds pretty politburo to me.
this is the reaction to republiCONS sabotaging the USPS.
Prove it.
I'm now at day 16 on a check mailed from Chicago to Baltimore. Should take 3 days normally at most, 2 days for in-state mail, one extra for out of town. Worst, worst case 5 days. But nope, 16 days so far...

You know, it just occurred to me that I should look at when the fundraising mail my wife and I keep getting from President Trump (man these are some whack job letters!) was mailed...I wonder whether that's getting expedited treatment...nah, that's pretty unlikely...it appears to me that it's just a general slowdown...

Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:40 pm
by 6ftstick
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:35 pm
6ftstick wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:08 pm
jhu72 wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:00 pm
6ftstick wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:30 am Finding this hard to understand.

Mailin and absentee ballots are already being cast.

2 months prior to election day.

Why Oh Why do democrats need 2,3,6,12 days after election day to "count" them?

Could it be democrats want to win the election AFTER the real election?

Sounds pretty politburo to me.
this is the reaction to republiCONS sabotaging the USPS.
Prove it.
I'm now at day 16 on a check mailed from Chicago to Baltimore. Should take 3 days normally at most, 2 days for in-state mail, one extra for out of town. Worst, worst case 5 days. But nope, 16 days so far...

You know, it just occurred to me that I should look at when the fundraising mail my wife and I keep getting from President Trump (man these are some whack job letters!) was mailed...I wonder whether that's getting expedited treatment...nah, that's pretty unlikely...it appears to me that it's just a general slowdown...
What could go wrong?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-BB19mhqr

Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:40 pm
by kramerica.inc
6ftstick wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:08 pm
jhu72 wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:00 pm
6ftstick wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:30 am Finding this hard to understand.

Mailin and absentee ballots are already being cast.

2 months prior to election day.

Why Oh Why do democrats need 2,3,6,12 days after election day to "count" them?

Could it be democrats want to win the election AFTER the real election?

Sounds pretty politburo to me.
this is the reaction to republiCONS sabotaging the USPS.
Prove it.
"Sabotaging" the USPS by inventing the internet and e-mail, starting a 2 decade long massive downturn in letter-sized mail, and systematically locking and removing unused, regularly stolen, and damaged mail boxes. Then repairing and removing outdated and broken letter sorting devices (in favor of more needed parcel handling technology.)

Diabilical.

Those Republicans sure can play the long game!

The origin of the infamous shut-down mailbox pictures that have been recently trending on Twitter:
https://www.dailynews.com/2016/04/23/th ... ke-action/

Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:00 pm
by MDlaxfan76
kramerica.inc wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:40 pm
6ftstick wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:08 pm
jhu72 wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:00 pm
6ftstick wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:30 am Finding this hard to understand.

Mailin and absentee ballots are already being cast.

2 months prior to election day.

Why Oh Why do democrats need 2,3,6,12 days after election day to "count" them?

Could it be democrats want to win the election AFTER the real election?

Sounds pretty politburo to me.
this is the reaction to republiCONS sabotaging the USPS.
Prove it.
"Sabotaging" the USPS by inventing the internet and e-mail, starting a 2 decade long massive downturn in letter-sized mail, and systematically locking and removing unused, regularly stolen, and damaged mail boxes. Then repairing and removing outdated and broken letter sorting devices (in favor of more needed parcel handling technology.)

Diabilical.

Those Republicans sure can play the long game!

The origin of the infamous shut-down mailbox pictures that have been recently trending on Twitter:
https://www.dailynews.com/2016/04/23/th ... ke-action/
Kram, we didn't have this problem of long delays in mail delivery 6 months ago.

It's not a 'long game'.

Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:03 pm
by 3rdPersonPlural
A lot of States don't allow any counting of Ballots until the polls close. And mail in ballots go through an excruciating process to be confirmed as valid. And there'll be millions of 'em.

And it'll take weeks. It's all manual.

Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:04 pm
by MDlaxfan76
6ftstick wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:40 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:35 pm
6ftstick wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:08 pm
jhu72 wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:00 pm
6ftstick wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:30 am Finding this hard to understand.

Mailin and absentee ballots are already being cast.

2 months prior to election day.

Why Oh Why do democrats need 2,3,6,12 days after election day to "count" them?

Could it be democrats want to win the election AFTER the real election?

Sounds pretty politburo to me.
this is the reaction to republiCONS sabotaging the USPS.
Prove it.
I'm now at day 16 on a check mailed from Chicago to Baltimore. Should take 3 days normally at most, 2 days for in-state mail, one extra for out of town. Worst, worst case 5 days. But nope, 16 days so far...

You know, it just occurred to me that I should look at when the fundraising mail my wife and I keep getting from President Trump (man these are some whack job letters!) was mailed...I wonder whether that's getting expedited treatment...nah, that's pretty unlikely...it appears to me that it's just a general slowdown...
What could go wrong?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-BB19mhqr
Indeed, a heck of a lot could go wrong, but only because the USPS has so egregiously constricted mail delivery and legislatures in some areas don't care if the mail was postmarked two weeks earlier, if not arrived on Election Day it doesn't count...This is not by accident.

And Trump said as much last night. Don't count "the ballots" and he'll win, he thinks.

And, if that doesn't work, he needs another vote on SCOTUS because they're going to need to decide who won the election...that's what he said..

Listen to him. He's saying it out loud.

Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:05 pm
by MDlaxfan76
3rdPersonPlural wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:03 pm A lot of States don't allow any counting of Ballots until the polls close. And mail in ballots go through an excruciating process to be confirmed as valid. And there'll be millions of 'em.

And it'll take weeks. It's all manual.
While states who are used to doing a high proportion of voting by mail begin processing ballots as they come in...not counting them, but opening, validating, putting in piles, etc. Goes way, way faster.

Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:17 pm
by a fan
6ftstick wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:08 pm
jhu72 wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:00 pm
6ftstick wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:30 am Finding this hard to understand.

Mailin and absentee ballots are already being cast.

2 months prior to election day.

Why Oh Why do democrats need 2,3,6,12 days after election day to "count" them?

Could it be democrats want to win the election AFTER the real election?

Sounds pretty politburo to me.
this is the reaction to republiCONS sabotaging the USPS.
Prove it.
Won't have to. You're under the impression----and so is your news feed-----that these USPS issues will help Republicans, and hurt Dems....so you don't care about the reports.

Careful what you wish for, is all I have to say-----Republicans vote by mail, too, my friend.

Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:49 pm
by Peter Brown
a fan wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:17 pm
6ftstick wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:08 pm
jhu72 wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:00 pm
6ftstick wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:30 am Finding this hard to understand.

Mailin and absentee ballots are already being cast.

2 months prior to election day.

Why Oh Why do democrats need 2,3,6,12 days after election day to "count" them?

Could it be democrats want to win the election AFTER the real election?

Sounds pretty politburo to me.
this is the reaction to republiCONS sabotaging the USPS.
Prove it.
Won't have to. You're under the impression----and so is your news feed-----that these USPS issues will help Republicans, and hurt Dems....so you don't care about the reports.

Careful what you wish for, is all I have to say-----Republicans vote by mail, too, my friend.



Of course Republicans vote by mail. In fact 9 military members (who overwhelmingly support Trump) recently cast their ballots by mail and all 9 ballots were discarded by partisan Democratic election officials in Pennsylvania:

https://www.justice.gov/usao-mdpa/pr/st ... il-ballots

All 9 voted for Trump. The FBI is going to find out which partisan Dem did it, and that dude will spend a year or more in his local Fed penitentiary.

Who is trying to steal an election again?

Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:54 pm
by a fan
Peter Brown wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:49 pm Of course Republicans vote by mail. In fact 9 military members (who overwhelmingly support Trump) recently cast their ballots by mail and all 9 ballots were discarded by partisan Democratic election officials in Pennsylvania:

https://www.justice.gov/usao-mdpa/pr/st ... il-ballots

All 9 voted for Trump. The FBI is going to find out which partisan Dem did it, and that dude will spend a year or more in his local Fed penitentiary.

Who is trying to steal an election again?
Boy, you better ban anything other than in person voting, Pete. Nothing will stop these mean ol' Dems.

Let me know when Florida bans anything but in person voting. That would certainly fix the problem, right?

Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:54 pm
by RedFromMI
PB cannot read again - there is nothing in his linked press release to support any notion of a crime - just that an investigation is occurring, and they have secured the cooperation of the officials from the election office.

Normally this would not even be in a press release but the currently politicized DOJ is trying to yank the chains of gullible suckers like PB.

Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:57 pm
by Peter Brown
RedFromMI wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:54 pm PB cannot read again - there is nothing in his linked press release to support any notion of a crime - just that an investigation is occurring, and they have secured the cooperation of the officials from the election office.

Normally this would not even be in a press release but the currently politicized DOJ is trying to yank the chains of gullible suckers like PB.



You know, you've convinced me; generally when the DOJ and FBI get involved in a 'situation', it's simply to hand out a mere traffic ticket, you know 30 in a 25, that kinda thing. Even the State PoPo is here picking daisies!

https://www.pahomepage.com/top-stories/ ... ne-county/

Paper gangters is all! :lol:

(the delusion with Fanlax Dems ratchets up every day; getting nervous is the only explanation)

Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:00 pm
by RedFromMI
Moody's pipes up about the election, with a financial prediction:

From Scott Wong's Twitter feed:
Moody's: "We conclude that Biden’s economic proposals would result in a stronger U.S. economy than Trump’s."
https://www.moodysanalytics.com/-/media ... -biden.pdf

Largely because of Biden’s substantially more expansive fiscal policies, the economy would return to full employment more quickly coming out of the
pandemic than under Trump — in the second half of 2022 under Biden compared with the first half of 2024 under Trump."

"Biden’s reversal of Trump’s policies on foreign trade and immigration would also contribute to stronger economic growth, so that by the end of their terms in 2024, real GDP would be $960 billion, or 4.5%, larger under Biden than Trump This translates into 7.4 million more jobs"

Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:01 pm
by kramerica.inc
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:00 pm
kramerica.inc wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:40 pm
6ftstick wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:08 pm
jhu72 wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:00 pm
6ftstick wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:30 am Finding this hard to understand.

Mailin and absentee ballots are already being cast.

2 months prior to election day.

Why Oh Why do democrats need 2,3,6,12 days after election day to "count" them?

Could it be democrats want to win the election AFTER the real election?

Sounds pretty politburo to me.
this is the reaction to republiCONS sabotaging the USPS.
Prove it.
"Sabotaging" the USPS by inventing the internet and e-mail, starting a 2 decade long massive downturn in letter-sized mail, and systematically locking and removing unused, regularly stolen, and damaged mail boxes. Then repairing and removing outdated and broken letter sorting devices (in favor of more needed parcel handling technology.)

Diabilical.

Those Republicans sure can play the long game!

The origin of the infamous shut-down mailbox pictures that have been recently trending on Twitter:
https://www.dailynews.com/2016/04/23/th ... ke-action/
Kram, we didn't have this problem of long delays in mail delivery 6 months ago.

It's not a 'long game'.
Long delays in mail? When/where? None here.
You must mean long delays in packages/parcels. That directly coincides with people ordering all their food /dry goods/sundries and having them delivered.

Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:07 pm
by runrussellrun
Who watches this show? Hunter Biden, facts ....please ignore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F09dS9AkKM

Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:12 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
runrussellrun wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:07 pm Who watches this show? Hunter Biden, facts ....please ignore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F09dS9AkKM
It’s not illegal.

Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:14 pm
by jhu72