Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:37 pm
by ardilla secreta
Peter Brown wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:33 pm
Democrats love racial warfare. It keeps them in office.
Ignore.
Democrats are baby killers. C’mon Peter. Tell it like it is.
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:54 pm
by jhu72
njbill wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:26 pm
I think the EMT was a very powerful witness for the prosecution. As one of the commentators noted, it is quite unusual for two eyewitnesses to also have expertise in areas relevant to the case. The MMA guy gave some pretty interesting testimony on chokeholds and the like.
The thing that I thought was most powerful about the EMT, though, is that she clearly communicated that she thought what the cops did was wrong. So here is a person trained in dealing with medical emergencies, who saw what was going on with her own eyes, who is basically telling the jury the cops killed this guy. Plus, she intimated that she could’ve helped, and maybe even saved Floyd’s life.
While the exchange with the judge at the end was more than much ado about nothing, I don’t think the witness’ combativeness with defense counsel will detract from her testimony.
Lawyers (understandably) don’t like it when witnesses don’t answer the question, argue, and make speeches. Judges don’t like that either. And this witness was cautioned several times before the judge lectured her. He did that out of the presence of a jury, of course.
I don’t think the jury will take any points away from the witness because of any arguing she does. Yes, it appears she clearly is siding with the prosecution, but I think what comes across is that she is, in effect, an impartial arbiter of sorts who happened upon the scene who has concluded what the cop did was wrong. I can see that being very important to the jurors.
Having said all that, the witness would be smart if she stops violating the rules when her testimony resumes tomorrow.
Given the make up of this jury, however, I would be somewhat surprised if the cop is convicted on all charges. I think they will convict him of something, though, because what he did was clearly wrong in the sense of how juries view right and wrong. We shall see.
The witnesses have been great for making the case. The videos are damning.
The prosecutor has given the jury a big enough menu. Frankly, I will consider it a loss for the nation if he is convicted of anything less than Murder 2. I think that is the maximum crime he is charged with. That's not premeditated but with intent - correct?? This was not an accident, there was clear intent.
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:57 pm
by njbill
I agree, but I suspect there are at least a few possible jurors who could be hold outs.
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:56 pm
by Peter Brown
njbill wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:57 pm
I agree, but I suspect there are at least a few possible jurors who could be hold outs.
Everyone is a racist until proven otherwise. Jurors have no agency. Njbill will stay on top of these closet racists and post their home address if they vote to acquit, regardless what they hear and see.
Justice, ain’t it grand!
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:03 pm
by njbill
Yo, Pete, why all the anger?
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
njbill wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:57 pm
I agree, but I suspect there are at least a few possible jurors who could be hold outs.
Everyone is a racist until proven otherwise. Jurors have no agency. Njbill will stay on top of these closet racists and post their home address if they vote to acquit, regardless what they hear and see.
Justice, ain’t it grand!
Yep...
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:39 pm
by Brooklyn
njbill » Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:26 pm
I think the EMT was a very powerful witness for the prosecution. As one of the commentators noted, it is quite unusual for two eyewitnesses to also have expertise in areas relevant to the case. The MMA guy gave some pretty interesting testimony on chokeholds and the like.
compelling testimony from the EMT:
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:47 pm
by Brooklyn
Peter Brown wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:33 pm
Democrats love racial warfare. It keeps them in office.
Ignore.
Yes, we all know that it was the Democrats who said Mexicans are all rapists, that Haiti and Third World nations are all "s_____ holes", and that the Central Park Five need to be executed even though they were innocent.
Ain't that right, Petey?
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:54 pm
by ggait
njbill wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:03 pm
Yo, Pete, why all the anger?
Petey's angry because an innocent cop is being railroaded. The knee on the neck, according to PB, had nothing to do with it.
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:10 pm
by jhu72
This to me is not first and foremost a racial bias story. It is that, but this is first and foremost a "COPs gone wild" story.
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
njbill wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:03 pm
Yo, Pete, why all the anger?
Petey's angry because an innocent cop is being railroaded. The knee on the neck, according to PB, had nothing to do with it.
Let's go easy on Petey. He is having a real bad day. He might go out and kill a bunch of old Asian women.
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:32 am
by Peter Brown
jhu72 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:10 pm
This to me is not first and foremost a racial bias story. It is that, but this is first and foremost a "COPs gone wild" story.
MSNBC and CNN are devoting entire days to this trial, ratcheting tensions every day. If the jury acquits, you lunatics will demand to know the home addresses of the jurors. And if a mob kills a juror, it wouldn’t bother you for a second.
If the cop is found guilty or innocent, I respect the jury. I’m not paying attention to the actual trial but rather the manner by which American Democrats now behave. The entire mindset of the typical Democrat now is that of a mob. Read your own posts here. Hopelessly predictable and genuinely moronic, but soothing because your fellow travelers approve in a way you realize before you even post. Very few posters here possess critical independent thought.
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:34 am
by Peter Brown
jhu72 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:10 pm
This to me is not first and foremost a racial bias story. It is that, but this is first and foremost a "COPs gone wild" story.
You say that, but you’ll be livid if a juror acquits. Then, it’ll be ‘Americans are racists!!!’ Even though you’re not in the courtroom, your mind is made up ahead of time.
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Peter Brown wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:33 pm
Democrats love racial warfare. It keeps them in office.
Ignore.
Yes, we all know that it was the Democrats who said Mexicans are all rapists, that Haiti and Third World nations are all "s_____ holes", and that the Central Park Five need to be executed even though they were innocent.
Ain't that right, Petey?
I don’t know even one person who agreed with Trump’s more idiotic comments. And I know a ton of conservatives. Most don’t like Trump on a personal level at all.
Meanwhile every democrat I know subscribes to racial warfare. Every single one.
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
njbill wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:03 pm
Yo, Pete, why all the anger?
Petey's angry because an innocent cop is being railroaded. The knee on the neck, according to PB, had nothing to do with it.
Did race, keep this killer pig cop, on the race force....mean cop pig force.....keep this pig scum cop on the job......after numerous priors, for this pig cop..........YUP.
If , now US Senator, legal begal types Amy Klobucher......had done their JOBS........this pig scum killer cop would have been off the force a decade ago.
THAT.....kind of systemic racism ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:38 am
by lagerhead
jhu72 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:21 pm
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Yo, Pete, why all the anger?
Petey's angry because an innocent cop is being railroaded. The knee on the neck, according to PB, had nothing to do with it.
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Let's go easy on Petey. He is having a real bad day. He might go out and kill a bunch of old Asian women.
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What the heck type of comment us this?
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:40 am
by seacoaster
"...subscribes to racial warfare." This is a special kind of stupid.
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
njbill wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:03 pm
Yo, Pete, why all the anger?
Petey's angry because an innocent cop is being railroaded. The knee on the neck, according to PB, had nothing to do with it.
Let's go easy on Petey. He is having a real bad day. He might go out and kill a bunch of old Asian women.
one of the most disgusting comments I have ever read............
I was waiting for someone to speak up.
If you let people talk, eventually they reveal themselves. JHU72's comment is no different than Heidi Heitkamp (D-ND) saying on Bill Maher that the Mandalorean woman is a Nazi. The Left's deranged online status is supported by most tech, who see no issue with the (charitably) sophomoric impulses of most of them, but god forbid you insist on scientific reasoning to allow boys to play girl's sports.
I support free speech like I do because it helps normal people understand who is who.
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 9:12 am
by MDlaxfan76
seacoaster wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:40 am
"...subscribes to racial warfare." This is a special kind of stupid.
"Every single one"...so, a slap back ensues...I too am guilty of responding to the troll, so when I say that the advice of "don't get into a peeing match with a skunk" is wise, and simply "don't feed the troll" I would say that applies in this case as well as my own.
"Don't pee into the wind" may apply even more closely.
