Same Party, Different House
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Probably doesn't belong on this thread, however let me say that 'thank you' to our fellow posters who are veterans and those who have family members who are veterans. Your service and sacrifices are appreciated.
Donald Trump is a veteran? Dude is a draft dodger and proud of it. This day is for honoring those that served unless I missed something. The best to you and your family.LandM wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:12 am aFan, I never read the critiques of Obama - I do not have the same history out here as you do. Objectively many people out here lambaste the guy over and over and all the conspiracy theories to date have come up empty and I will admit that it was great to see Avenatti's fall from grace - lots people look pretty silly over that and the last three years of one after another - at some point you all are gonna wind up running out of points - there is an election- I know redundant
What is actually entertaining for someone like myself is that folks actually post that Trump is doing Putin's bidding and will sit next to him as they overthrow the world - not gonna happen - hopefully all the smart people do the research - at some point the American voter needs to be looking in the mirror.
TLD - yesterday watched the Browns and Bills game - Jerry picks up a forward pass and runs into end zone. A Browns fan proceeds to on national TV flip him off - do you realize what an arse the guy looked like? Today is a sad for me and many others - I hope that your flipping off comment was in jest - if not you would look like the Browns fan, an arse.
42% of Americans are politically independent. Is it so hard to believe that many of the posters here are actually independents and not Democrats? Just because a number of posters are to the left of you on some things (and right on many others) doesn't make them Democrats when they literally say they are not Democrats.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:27 am
I am hoping that even the winking-at-Democrats-but-I-swear-I'm-not-one crowd here at Fanlax
Avenatti was representing a porn star that Trump boned and paid off while his wife was pregnant. Avenatti didn’t have to far to fall with that kind of clientele and case.LandM wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:12 am aFan, I never read the critiques of Obama - I do not have the same history out here as you do. Objectively many people out here lambaste the guy over and over and all the conspiracy theories to date have come up empty and I will admit that it was great to see Avenatti's fall from grace - lots people look pretty silly over that and the last three years of one after another - at some point you all are gonna wind up running out of points - there is an election
What is actually entertaining for someone like myself is that folks actually post that Trump is doing Putin's bidding and will sit next to him as they overthrow the world - not gonna happen - hopefully all the smart people do the research - at some point the American voter needs to be looking in the mirror.
TLD - yesterday watched the Browns and Bills game - Jerry picks up a forward pass and runs into end zone. A Browns fan proceeds to on national TV flip him off - do you realize what an arse the guy looked like? Today is a sad for me and many others - I hope that your flipping off comment was in jest - if not you would look like the Browns fan, an arse.
holmes435 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:31 am42% of Americans are politically independent. Is it so hard to believe that many of the posters here are actually independents and not Democrats? Just because a number of posters are to the left of you on some things (and right on many others) doesn't make them Democrats when they literally say they are not Democrats.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:27 am
I am hoping that even the winking-at-Democrats-but-I-swear-I'm-not-one crowd here at Fanlax
So now we have to give YOU proof on our voting record so YOU can make a determination on where YOU want to place us on a spectrum.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:44 amholmes435 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:31 am42% of Americans are politically independent. Is it so hard to believe that many of the posters here are actually independents and not Democrats? Just because a number of posters are to the left of you on some things (and right on many others) doesn't make them Democrats when they literally say they are not Democrats.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:27 am
I am hoping that even the winking-at-Democrats-but-I-swear-I'm-not-one crowd here at Fanlax
So, state the Republicans you have voted for in the past and the ones you are comfortable voting for in the present. That should not be too hard if you are truly an 'independent'.
I am an actual Independent; liked Clinton and Obama (actually REALLY liked Obama), did not like George W Bush (at all; I consider him to be the worst POTUS ever). I'd vote for Joe Biden. I'd also vote for Nikki Haley, happily. I like Dan Crenshaw. Even Bernie is somewhat acceptable to me, not for his economic stances, but because I think he's honest. Trump gets my vote if his opponent is anyone other than Joe Biden, especially if it is Elizabeth Warren. I think Kamala Harris is part of the fetid stew of the DC apparatus causing harm to so many American families.
Are your Independent bona fides as strong? Just list it out. It can't be that hard.
foreverlax wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:48 amSo now we have to give YOU proof on our voting record so YOU can make a determination on where YOU want to place us on a spectrum.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:44 amholmes435 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:31 am42% of Americans are politically independent. Is it so hard to believe that many of the posters here are actually independents and not Democrats? Just because a number of posters are to the left of you on some things (and right on many others) doesn't make them Democrats when they literally say they are not Democrats.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:27 am
I am hoping that even the winking-at-Democrats-but-I-swear-I'm-not-one crowd here at Fanlax
So, state the Republicans you have voted for in the past and the ones you are comfortable voting for in the present. That should not be too hard if you are truly an 'independent'.
I am an actual Independent; liked Clinton and Obama (actually REALLY liked Obama), did not like George W Bush (at all; I consider him to be the worst POTUS ever). I'd vote for Joe Biden. I'd also vote for Nikki Haley, happily. I like Dan Crenshaw. Even Bernie is somewhat acceptable to me, not for his economic stances, but because I think he's honest. Trump gets my vote if his opponent is anyone other than Joe Biden, especially if it is Elizabeth Warren. I think Kamala Harris is part of the fetid stew of the DC apparatus causing harm to so many American families.
Are your Independent bona fides as strong? Just list it out. It can't be that hard.
Good one!!
I'm in...pick any issue and we can discuss it.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:54 amforeverlax wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:48 amSo now we have to give YOU proof on our voting record so YOU can make a determination on where YOU want to place us on a spectrum.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:44 amholmes435 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:31 am42% of Americans are politically independent. Is it so hard to believe that many of the posters here are actually independents and not Democrats? Just because a number of posters are to the left of you on some things (and right on many others) doesn't make them Democrats when they literally say they are not Democrats.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:27 am
I am hoping that even the winking-at-Democrats-but-I-swear-I'm-not-one crowd here at Fanlax
So, state the Republicans you have voted for in the past and the ones you are comfortable voting for in the present. That should not be too hard if you are truly an 'independent'.
I am an actual Independent; liked Clinton and Obama (actually REALLY liked Obama), did not like George W Bush (at all; I consider him to be the worst POTUS ever). I'd vote for Joe Biden. I'd also vote for Nikki Haley, happily. I like Dan Crenshaw. Even Bernie is somewhat acceptable to me, not for his economic stances, but because I think he's honest. Trump gets my vote if his opponent is anyone other than Joe Biden, especially if it is Elizabeth Warren. I think Kamala Harris is part of the fetid stew of the DC apparatus causing harm to so many American families.
Are your Independent bona fides as strong? Just list it out. It can't be that hard.
Good one!!
I'm not looking for your voting slips...just an actual written post we can refer to while you post a steady stream of 100% pro-Democrat posts while claiming to be an 'Independent.' (I swear!
If you are unwilling to do so, I'll take that as an admission that you aren't. This shouldn't be too hard, but your pushback is akin to seeing your leg as the kimono rises a tad.
Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:44 amholmes435 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:31 am42% of Americans are politically independent. Is it so hard to believe that many of the posters here are actually independents and not Democrats? Just because a number of posters are to the left of you on some things (and right on many others) doesn't make them Democrats when they literally say they are not Democrats.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:27 am
I am hoping that even the winking-at-Democrats-but-I-swear-I'm-not-one crowd here at Fanlax
So, state the Republicans you have voted for in the past and the ones you are comfortable voting for in the present. That should not be too hard if you are truly an 'independent'.
I am an actual Independent; liked Clinton and Obama (actually REALLY liked Obama), did not like George W Bush (at all; I consider him to be the worst POTUS ever). I'd vote for Joe Biden. I'd also vote for Nikki Haley, happily. I like Dan Crenshaw. Even Bernie is somewhat acceptable to me, not for his economic stances, but because I think he's honest. Trump gets my vote if his opponent is anyone other than Joe Biden, especially if it is Elizabeth Warren. I think Kamala Harris is part of the fetid stew of the DC apparatus causing harm to so many American families.
Are your Independent bona fides as strong? Just list it out. It can't be that hard.
What no actual independents voted for?I'm in...pick any issue and we can discuss it.foreverlax wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:56 am I'm not looking for your voting slips...just an actual written post we can refer to while you post a steady stream of 100% pro-Democrat posts while claiming to be an 'Independent.' (I swear!
If you are unwilling to do so, I'll take that as an admission that you aren't. This shouldn't be too hard, but your pushback is akin to seeing your leg as the kimono rises a tad.
Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:01 amI'm in...pick any issue and we can discuss it.foreverlax wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:56 am I'm not looking for your voting slips...just an actual written post we can refer to while you post a steady stream of 100% pro-Democrat posts while claiming to be an 'Independent.' (I swear!
If you are unwilling to do so, I'll take that as an admission that you aren't. This shouldn't be too hard, but your pushback is akin to seeing your leg as the kimono rises a tad.
Exactly...anti-Trumpism does not make you pro-Dem.holmes435 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:34 am I'd have been fine with Kasich beating Clinton, I voted for him in the Republican Primary in 2016.
I'll also say that most of my posts are anti-Republican talking point, not pro-Democrat, and especially so now that Trump is in office. Their elected officials just seem to screw up the most on topics I care about, so I like to hammer them. I've also got a bit of a libertarian streak on some issues and I'm pro-gun.
PB you seem to read a few novels between the lines of a lot of posters. For a supposed "independent" what Democratic policies do you like?
LandM wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:33 am TLD,
BTW if you want to instead have those that are voted on to fix the problems - fix the DACA issue - allot of those kids are doing the dirty work that a rich elitist kid won't do - the guy you hate terminated it or is trying to as the D's were focused on the impeachment - fix the problem. The votes are there.
Obama didn’t volunteer. Did his father write him a note to get excused?LandM wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:12 am TLD - thank you for the wishes much appreciated
Many people including most of the press though Avenatti was the second coming of Christ - knew it was going to fail for the reason you stated BUT he did create quite the noise in the interim. He even went to Iowa for a dress rehearsal;
I do not think anyone who did the time begrudges those that did. not - who cares I did not see Bill Clinton or Hillary doing time although they could have been JAG officers; GW to his credit flew F-4's in the Guard; Obama could have seen some action as there was some activity all around the globe during his youth - so what? BTW if you want to deride someone take the D Senator from CT who claims he was shot at in Vietnam - dude was on a cushy job and no where near combat - that should pi$$ you off. When born in the right circles things happen - where is that outrage?????????