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Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:43 pm
by Matnum PI
kim @KimmyMonte
30 mins ago
they killed a cop. where’s all the outrage? where are the All Lives Matter folks? i guess it all depends on WHO kills the cop. ahhhh ok. got it.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:46 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
Matnum PI wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:43 pm kim @KimmyMonte
30 mins ago
they killed a cop. where’s all the outrage? where are the All Lives Matter folks? i guess it all depends on WHO kills the cop. ahhhh ok. got it.
I didn’t see that. You have a link to a news story?

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:50 pm
by Matnum PI
here. not a lot of details. apparently he had a stroke so... it's not simple.

US Capitol Police officer has died following pro-Trump riot

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:28 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
Matnum PI wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:50 pm here. not a lot of details. apparently he had a stroke so... it's not simple.

US Capitol Police officer has died following pro-Trump riot
Thanks.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:28 pm
by 6x6
Maybe you could share with Kimmy that not everyone is glued to their Twitter acct.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:42 pm
by MDlaxfan76
Matnum PI wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:50 pm here. not a lot of details. apparently he had a stroke so... it's not simple.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:45 pm
by Matnum PI
CORRECTION
Craig Caplan @CraigCaplan
21m
US Capitol Police spox: “Media reports regarding the death of a United States Capitol Police (USCP) officer are not accurate. Although some officers were injured and hospitalized yesterday, no USCP officers have passed away.”

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:10 pm
by old salt
I bet Kimmy's a Russian bot.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:28 am
by MDlaxfan76
"Kimmy" had heard what was put out by the union...turns out he was on life support, not yet dead. Now dead.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politi ... b-n1253396

Injured in the protest.

This is manslaughter at a minimum.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:48 am
by njbill
Under the felony murder and co-conspirator rules, T**** is also culpable.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:47 am
by old salt
https://www.foxnews.com/media/biden-har ... ves-matter

Biden: "No one can tell me that if it had been a group of Black Lives Matter protesting yesterday, they wouldn't have been treated very, very differently than the mob of thugs that stormed the Capitol. We all know that's true, and it is unacceptable. Totally unacceptable."

@KamalaHarris: "We witnessed two systems of justice when we saw one that let extremists storm the United States Capitol, and another that released tear gas on peaceful protesters last summer...We know this is unacceptable. We know we should be better than this."
True enough. If the Capitol Police had shot & killed a black woman protester, DC would still be burning.

A lot of tear gas & flash bangs were expended in protecting the Congress members, staff & Capitol employees, then clearing the mob out of & away from the Capitol.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:11 am
by Brooklyn
old salt wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:47 am
https://www.foxnews.com/media/biden-har ... ves-matter

Biden: "No one can tell me that if it had been a group of Black Lives Matter protesting yesterday, they wouldn't have been treated very, very differently than the mob of thugs that stormed the Capitol. We all know that's true, and it is unacceptable. Totally unacceptable."

@KamalaHarris: "We witnessed two systems of justice when we saw one that let extremists storm the United States Capitol, and another that released tear gas on peaceful protesters last summer...We know this is unacceptable. We know we should be better than this."
True enough. If the Capitol Police had shot & killed a black woman protester, DC would still be burning.

A lot of tear gas & flash bangs were expended in protecting the Congress members, staff & Capitol employees, then clearing the mob out of & away from the Capitol.



Had a black mob stomped a white cop to death in Minneapolis the cops would have opened fire on the mob and croaked off bystanders by shooting away on them like ducks in a pond.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:32 am
by Kismet
A primer on how you round up the clowns that stormed the Capitol and grind them into dust.

"In the post 9/11 world we have become used to the pervasive surveillance that characterizes Total Information Awareness. There’s a reason CIA Director Petraeus was so enthusiastic about the Internet-of-Things. If you want to freak yourself out ask Alexa if it is connected to the NSA.

We don’t need to be so slick when dealing with a group of Neanderthals. They carry their tracking devices with them. I could post a dozen pictures like the one I put up here, but you get the point. You can be sure that most, if not all, of the mob who overran the Capitol on January 6 were carrying cell phones.

If you think I’m going to suggest a geo-fence warrant to scoop up all the phones that were active inside the Capitol yesterday, you’d be wrong. No, that could be legally challenged as unconstitutional. But we don’t need to open that can of worms. What DoJ needs is called a “cell tower data dump.” That gives you all the connections made through a specific set of cell towers during a specific window in time. You don’t need a warrant for that.

Even if you do think a warrant is needed, all you need is one of the arrested individuals to have a cell phone and you use them as the probable cause justification for the warrant.

The primary legal question concerning cell tower dumps is whether they require a warrant or, alternatively, can be obtained under the Stored Communications Act (“SCA”), 18 U.S.C. § 2703(d). If the warrant requirement applies, the government would need to show probable cause in order to obtain a tower dump. Section 2703(d) of the SCA, on the other hand, requires only “specific and articulable facts showing that there are reasonable grounds to believe that the contents of [the cell tower dump] are relevant and material to an ongoing criminal investigation.”

Here’s the easy lift:

1) get the cell site location information (CSLI) for Jan 6 from 2 to 3 o’clock
2) identify all the cell phones located in the Capitol
3) filter out all the phones belonging to cops,Capitol employees, press, senators, representatives, and staff.
4) the remainder are now trespassers.
5) obtain warrants on all the trespassers phones for “pin register” data. That shows who they were communicating with.
6) all parties either located in capitol or communicating with phones during the commission of a felony are now targets of legitimate search warrants.
7) execute search warrants and seize ALL digital devices — phones, computers, network appliances, etc. — that may contain evidence of conspiracy to commit sedition.

This would mean all the people identified as being in the capitol yesterday without authorization are going to spend years getting their stuff back, fighting criminal charges, etc. It doesn’t take a lot of imagination to see how this also creates an expanding network of collaborators and the basic data needed to identify the ring leaders for this Confederacy of Dunces.

Bottom line: You grind them into dust…. slowly and painfully. When you are done …. you grind the dust. God forbid a senator or representative (federal or state) shows up in that network. Then you get to exercise the 14th amendment, specifically Section 3:

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

All of a sudden, the concerns about Republicans blocking anything becomes moot."

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:41 am
by old salt
Has that been used to apprehend Antifa rioters yet ?

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:43 am
by foreverlax
old salt wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:41 am Has that been used to apprehend Antifa rioters yet ?
Yea and how about those Nazis?

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:44 am
by old salt
foreverlax wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:43 am
old salt wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:41 am Has that been used to apprehend Antifa rioters yet ?
Yea and how about those Nazis?
Get 'em all !

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:45 am
by Typical Lax Dad
old salt wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:41 am Has that been used to apprehend Antifa rioters yet ?
No

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 3:38 pm
by youthathletics
Kismet wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:32 am A primer on how you round up the clowns that stormed the Capitol and grind them into dust.

"In the post 9/11 world we have become used to the pervasive surveillance that characterizes Total Information Awareness. There’s a reason CIA Director Petraeus was so enthusiastic about the Internet-of-Things. If you want to freak yourself out ask Alexa if it is connected to the NSA.
.....
The link to your post. Was curious where it came from. https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/1 ... he-Capitol

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:10 pm
by Kismet
youthathletics wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 3:38 pm
Kismet wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:32 am A primer on how you round up the clowns that stormed the Capitol and grind them into dust.

"In the post 9/11 world we have become used to the pervasive surveillance that characterizes Total Information Awareness. There’s a reason CIA Director Petraeus was so enthusiastic about the Internet-of-Things. If you want to freak yourself out ask Alexa if it is connected to the NSA.
.....
The link to your post. Was curious where it came from. https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/1 ... he-Capitol
So what.
Is the guy incorrect in his assessment?
Would serve all of these idiots right if they provided the means themselves for the big bad Feds to arrest them for crimes they committed in the Capitol.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:21 pm
by youthathletics
Kismet wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:10 pm
youthathletics wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 3:38 pm
Kismet wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:32 am A primer on how you round up the clowns that stormed the Capitol and grind them into dust.

"In the post 9/11 world we have become used to the pervasive surveillance that characterizes Total Information Awareness. There’s a reason CIA Director Petraeus was so enthusiastic about the Internet-of-Things. If you want to freak yourself out ask Alexa if it is connected to the NSA.
.....
The link to your post. Was curious where it came from. https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/1 ... he-Capitol
So what.
Is the guy incorrect in his assessment?
Would serve all of these idiots right if they provided the means themselves for the big bad Feds to arrest them for crimes they committed in the Capitol.
No disagreement, just good practice to link the article, even if it is in quotes.

Back in the Lax Power days, they'd delete your post if no referenced link....maybe out of concern of copyright infringement.