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Would not mind see 1 or 2 easy games add to the schedule. Tills tweaks the schedule but always seems to am fro a high RPI

I don’t really see the point of adding easier opponents to the schedule unless you are hoping to clear out the bench and get some young guys some playing time. Tills has usually scheduled like this and it has for the most part worked out. Them being challenged every week (albeit grinding) atleast tests them and gets them to adjust to their mistakes. Adding a few easy opponents this year which maybe give a few more wins but there is no disguising this team is not elite

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:11 pm

Finster wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 12:51 pm My nits with John are grinding Weirman to a pulp over a season (and not giving the next year's starter some reps in tough games, thereby hurting next year) and giving up on the ride. Is there an online statistics base which can show what % clearing teams have against Maryland?

I seem to recall the same w/Raffa, playing with a destroyed shoulder.

Yup. He’s great coach (obviously) but I don’t love the FOGO meat grinder decision.

I hope that Tillman and Phipps aren't trying to duplicate the 2022 team with the 2024 players. They need to adjust to the limitations that exist. Tillman as mentioned before does have loyalty to his older players, sometimes too much (see Brennan). I do think of this team lacks speed at SSDM and at midfield which causes much of the lapses stated above. Maybe a couple of back to basics days in practice? Above my pay grade for sure but in Tils we trust.

Tillman has made it to a couple national championship games with less talent, so no top seed wants to see Maryland on their side of the bracket. The trouble is getting in, plus those less talented Maryland teams seemed grittier than this squad. Losing Wicks was a big blow to the ssdm group.

keno in reno wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 5:06 pm Tillman has made it to a couple national championship games with less talent, so no top seed wants to see Maryland on their side of the bracket. The trouble is getting in, plus those less talented Maryland teams seemed grittier than this squad. Losing Wicks was a big blow to the ssdm group.

Great point about Wicks. We are struggling on the wings and with tough GBs. Probably cost the game yesterday.

The schedule is fine. The team is literally only in a position to make the tournament right now because of their schedule. They're gonna be 10th in RPI after this weekend. That's because of the schedule. You add one to two "easier" games and you run the risk of doing what UNC did, which was a complete and utter disaster.

They just gotta play better. That's it.

jrn19 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 6:28 pm The schedule is fine. The team is literally only in a position to make the tournament right now because of their schedule. They're gonna be 10th in RPI after this weekend. That's because of the schedule. You add one to two "easier" games and you run the risk of doing what UNC did, which was a complete and utter disaster.

They just gotta play better. That's it.

The schedule is fine so long as they won. They didn’t. Now they’re on the edge of not being in the NCAA tournament with one more loss, definitely out with two more (disregarding the B1G tournament).

I think this was the year that Maryland could’ve used a breather somewhere in the schedule. If not to start the season, maybe in the middle. Teams struggle to find rhythm when they’re struggling to just survive every game.

jrn19 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 6:28 pm The schedule is fine. The team is literally only in a position to make the tournament right now because of their schedule. They're gonna be 10th in RPI after this weekend. That's because of the schedule. You add one to two "easier" games and you run the risk of doing what UNC did, which was a complete and utter disaster.

They just gotta play better. That's it.

Yea. 1 down year doesn’t mean you change the formula

masondixonlax wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 6:40 pm

jrn19 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 6:28 pm The schedule is fine. The team is literally only in a position to make the tournament right now because of their schedule. They're gonna be 10th in RPI after this weekend. That's because of the schedule. You add one to two "easier" games and you run the risk of doing what UNC did, which was a complete and utter disaster.

They just gotta play better. That's it.

Yea. 1 down year doesn’t mean you change the formula

Correct. You guys will be fine. You have one of the top two coaches in lacrosse. You run a first class program. Phipps is excellent, give it time. Maybe you're not quite as good as you've been for the last, I dunno, 7 or 8 years? You can't expect to make the final four EVERY year or be the best team in recent college lacrosse history. So I'm sorry it's a little rough right now, but you're not in "receiving votes" territory yet. I've been there. It's not fun.

Deep breath. Relax.

Really hope the Jays keep the big crab in Baltimore, where it belongs, though. But Tillman runs an extremely enviable program (glove-gate notwithstanding).

Finster wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 6:35 pm

jrn19 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 6:28 pm The schedule is fine. The team is literally only in a position to make the tournament right now because of their schedule. They're gonna be 10th in RPI after this weekend. That's because of the schedule. You add one to two "easier" games and you run the risk of doing what UNC did, which was a complete and utter disaster.

They just gotta play better. That's it.

The schedule is fine so long as they won. They didn’t. Now they’re on the edge of not being in the NCAA tournament with one more loss, definitely out with two more (disregarding the B1G tournament).

I think this was the year that Maryland could’ve used a breather somewhere in the schedule. If not to start the season, maybe in the middle. Teams struggle to find rhythm when they’re struggling to just survive every game.

If they scheduled a breather somewhere in the schedule then they still would have lost to Notre Dame and UVA, the only difference is that their RPI would take a hit because they scheduled a breather and they would not make the tournament.

They can lose one more game and still make the tournament. Their RPI is 10th and they have 2 more games against Top 10 RPI teams and probably others against Top 20 teams.

They didn't lose to Notre Dame and UVA because they didn't get a "breather", they lost because Notre Dame and UVA are better teams.

Right now they are in the tournament and they will stay that way if they take care of their business. If they don't, there is no schedule that was getting them in the tournament, in which case it's irrelevant.

Not true. They could have scheduled many teams above Brown, Richmond and Loyola

Loyola is currently 23rd in RPI. Richmond is 30th. And those two teams are literally on numerous top teams schedules.

Brown was actually intended as a schedule upgrade from last year, they replaced Albany. Do you think they expected them to be 1-7? Brown was in the tournament in 2022. If anyone was the "breather" on the schedule, it's them.

They are currently 3rd in SOS. It's pretty darn hard to have max'd out the SOS more than they have.

nyjay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 6:59 pm

masondixonlax wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 6:40 pm

jrn19 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 6:28 pm The schedule is fine. The team is literally only in a position to make the tournament right now because of their schedule. They're gonna be 10th in RPI after this weekend. That's because of the schedule. You add one to two "easier" games and you run the risk of doing what UNC did, which was a complete and utter disaster.

They just gotta play better. That's it.

Yea. 1 down year doesn’t mean you change the formula

Correct. You guys will be fine. You have one of the top two coaches in lacrosse. You run a first class program. Phipps is excellent, give it time. Maybe you're not quite as good as you've been for the last, I dunno, 7 or 8 years? You can't expect to make the final four EVERY year or be the best team in recent college lacrosse history. So I'm sorry it's a little rough right now, but you're not in "receiving votes" territory yet. I've been there. It's not fun.

Deep breath. Relax.

Really hope the Jays keep the big crab in Baltimore, where it belongs, though. But Tillman runs an extremely enviable program (glove-gate notwithstanding).

Who would have expected a Hopkins fan to be the voice of reason. The thing I love the most about the Hop - MD rivalry is the page counts those two fan bases keep up!

jrn19 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:07 pm Loyola is currently 23rd in RPI. Richmond is 30th. And those two teams are literally on numerous top teams schedules.

Brown was actually intended as a schedule upgrade from last year, they replaced Albany. Do you think they expected them to be 1-7? Brown was in the tournament in 2022. If anyone was the "breather" on the schedule, it's them.

They are currently 3rd in SOS. It's pretty darn hard to have max'd out the SOS more than they have.

Dude, chill out area. Do you not see that a different schedule would help their RPI?

keno in reno wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:31 pm

jrn19 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:07 pm Loyola is currently 23rd in RPI. Richmond is 30th. And those two teams are literally on numerous top teams schedules.

Brown was actually intended as a schedule upgrade from last year, they replaced Albany. Do you think they expected them to be 1-7? Brown was in the tournament in 2022. If anyone was the "breather" on the schedule, it's them.

They are currently 3rd in SOS. It's pretty darn hard to have max'd out the SOS more than they have.

Dude, chill out area. Do you not see that a different schedule would help their RPI?

They are 10th in opponents win percentage, the 2nd of 3 RPI factors. They are 2nd in opponents opponent winning percentage, the 3rd factor.

The 1st factor is your own winning percentage. In that, they rank 23rd.

Do you know what would help their RPI most? Winning more games. It is incredibly difficult to have a Top 10 RPI while losing 3 games. The only way you do it is if you have scheduled incredibly difficult. They did that. Their schedule is HELPING their RPI right now, not hurting it. The math quite literally bears that out.

jrn19 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:24 pm

keno in reno wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:31 pm

jrn19 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:07 pm Loyola is currently 23rd in RPI. Richmond is 30th. And those two teams are literally on numerous top teams schedules.

Brown was actually intended as a schedule upgrade from last year, they replaced Albany. Do you think they expected them to be 1-7? Brown was in the tournament in 2022. If anyone was the "breather" on the schedule, it's them.

They are currently 3rd in SOS. It's pretty darn hard to have max'd out the SOS more than they have.

Dude, chill out area. Do you not see that a different schedule would help their RPI?

They are 10th in opponents win percentage, the 2nd of 3 RPI factors. They are 2nd in opponents opponent winning percentage, the 3rd factor.

The 1st factor is your own winning percentage. In that, they rank 23rd.

Do you know what would help their RPI most? Winning more games. It is incredibly difficult to have a Top 10 RPI while losing 3 games. The only way you do it is if you have scheduled incredibly difficult. They did that. Their schedule is HELPING their RPI right now, not hurting it. The math quite literally bears that out.

PLB, you know that if they scheduled and beat a higher RPI team like Georgetown or even UNC right now that would help them out

keno in reno wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:35 pm

jrn19 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:24 pm

keno in reno wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:31 pm

jrn19 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:07 pm Loyola is currently 23rd in RPI. Richmond is 30th. And those two teams are literally on numerous top teams schedules.

Brown was actually intended as a schedule upgrade from last year, they replaced Albany. Do you think they expected them to be 1-7? Brown was in the tournament in 2022. If anyone was the "breather" on the schedule, it's them.

They are currently 3rd in SOS. It's pretty darn hard to have max'd out the SOS more than they have.

Dude, chill out area. Do you not see that a different schedule would help their RPI?

They are 10th in opponents win percentage, the 2nd of 3 RPI factors. They are 2nd in opponents opponent winning percentage, the 3rd factor.

The 1st factor is your own winning percentage. In that, they rank 23rd.

Do you know what would help their RPI most? Winning more games. It is incredibly difficult to have a Top 10 RPI while losing 3 games. The only way you do it is if you have scheduled incredibly difficult. They did that. Their schedule is HELPING their RPI right now, not hurting it. The math quite literally bears that out.

PLB, you know that if they scheduled and beat a higher RPI team like Georgetown or even UNC right now that would help them out

think y'all are arguing the same point

keno in reno wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:35 pm

jrn19 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:24 pm

keno in reno wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:31 pm

jrn19 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:07 pm Loyola is currently 23rd in RPI. Richmond is 30th. And those two teams are literally on numerous top teams schedules.

Brown was actually intended as a schedule upgrade from last year, they replaced Albany. Do you think they expected them to be 1-7? Brown was in the tournament in 2022. If anyone was the "breather" on the schedule, it's them.

They are currently 3rd in SOS. It's pretty darn hard to have max'd out the SOS more than they have.

Dude, chill out area. Do you not see that a different schedule would help their RPI?

They are 10th in opponents win percentage, the 2nd of 3 RPI factors. They are 2nd in opponents opponent winning percentage, the 3rd factor.

The 1st factor is your own winning percentage. In that, they rank 23rd.

Do you know what would help their RPI most? Winning more games. It is incredibly difficult to have a Top 10 RPI while losing 3 games. The only way you do it is if you have scheduled incredibly difficult. They did that. Their schedule is HELPING their RPI right now, not hurting it. The math quite literally bears that out.

PLB, you know that if they scheduled and beat a higher RPI team like Georgetown or even UNC right now that would help them out

UNC is like 33rd in RPI, so that's not a "higher RPI team." UNC also didn't want to schedule teams like them, they wanted to schedule scrubs, and that's why they're 33rd

this is also incredible post hoc rationalization. I'm sure you were predicting Loyola would be 3-6 at the start of the year or Brown would be 1-7. Literally the worst possible outcome occurred with the schedule and it STILL wound up giving them the 3rd toughest schedule in the entire country.

masondixonlax wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:44 pm

keno in reno wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:35 pm

jrn19 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:24 pm

keno in reno wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:31 pm

jrn19 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:07 pm Loyola is currently 23rd in RPI. Richmond is 30th. And those two teams are literally on numerous top teams schedules.

Brown was actually intended as a schedule upgrade from last year, they replaced Albany. Do you think they expected them to be 1-7? Brown was in the tournament in 2022. If anyone was the "breather" on the schedule, it's them.

They are currently 3rd in SOS. It's pretty darn hard to have max'd out the SOS more than they have.

Dude, chill out area. Do you not see that a different schedule would help their RPI?

They are 10th in opponents win percentage, the 2nd of 3 RPI factors. They are 2nd in opponents opponent winning percentage, the 3rd factor.

The 1st factor is your own winning percentage. In that, they rank 23rd.

Do you know what would help their RPI most? Winning more games. It is incredibly difficult to have a Top 10 RPI while losing 3 games. The only way you do it is if you have scheduled incredibly difficult. They did that. Their schedule is HELPING their RPI right now, not hurting it. The math quite literally bears that out.

PLB, you know that if they scheduled and beat a higher RPI team like Georgetown or even UNC right now that would help them out

think y'all are arguing the same point

Yeah, but the old PLB's 7th alias always manifests when challenged and can't stand it. Watch JRN or Area disappear and a new regular poster show up.