McFadden is a judge that Orange Cheeto appointed...
McFadden based his decision on this point in part on separation of powers (the basis for some of his decisions that have been deemed pro-Trump) and presumption of regularity, as well as basic facts. He deemed reasonable the possibility that prosecutors viewed Griffin’s leadership role to be more important to prosecute. He suggested he might sentence Griffin (if he were found guilty) leniently based on a comparison with similarly situated protestors against Kavanugh. But he also based his decision on the notion that Griffin’s threats of violence (raised in a detention challenge conducted before Michael Sherwin departed) could pose a genuine concern to the government.
McFadden is not treating this investigation as a witch hunt against people with right wing views.
But at the same time, McFadden has deviated from his colleagues’ more alarmist language to refer to January 6. At least twice in hearings (including on this Griffin challenge), McFadden admonished an AUSA who referred to January 6 as an insurrection. Have you charged anyone with insurrection, McFadden rightly asked. In a court room, these are not empty terms. They are also names of crimes. And DOJ needs to be careful not to accuse these defendants of crimes that — for whatever reason — they haven’t charged.
It’s not that McFadden thinks January 6 was not serious. In the same Hale-Cusanelli hearing, he described, “Obviously, the January 6th riot was a serious and sui generis threat to our country’s body politic.” But thus far (he has not presided over any of the six cases that have been sentenced yet), he has adopted a more moderate tone in discussing the event.
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“Obviously, the January 6th riot was a serious and sui generis threat to our country’s body politic.”
As a creature of the law and order establishment, he has not idea what is coming. Adherence to the rule of law is voluntary. Has he forgotten about force majeure? I think the social contract will fail as all parties begin to invoke force majeure and become selective in in their adherence to the social compact.
What do you think the January 6th riots were?
How about widespread "revolt" against nonsensical "anti-masking" edicts in Florida and Tejas?
All dam failures start out slowly...
"Freedom's just a nother word for nothing left to lose".
Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 1:31 pm
by PizzaSnake
Guess the hesitant are semi-literate... or aren't too discerning.
"The agents confiscated 121 packages filled with more than 3,000 fake vaccination cards, according to the CBP. Officers realized the cards were fake because the packages were not sent by the CDC or another medical organization. The forms also had errors, including misspellings, unfinished words and incorrect Spanish translations, the agency said."
Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:58 am
by Typical Lax Dad
Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 3:47 pm
by Farfromgeneva
PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Mon Aug 16, 2021 1:31 pm
Guess the hesitant are semi-literate... or aren't too discerning.
"The agents confiscated 121 packages filled with more than 3,000 fake vaccination cards, according to the CBP. Officers realized the cards were fake because the packages were not sent by the CDC or another medical organization. The forms also had errors, including misspellings, unfinished words and incorrect Spanish translations, the agency said."
Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 2:11 pm
by seacoaster
RedFromMI wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 1:56 pm
Currently there is a guy in a pickup truck on a sidewalk outside of the Library of Congress trying to get the revolution started:
What a shock that a white man from North Carolina could tell "Biden and Nancy" they better leave unless they "want to hear people scream," and that "labor day weekend they gonna know the motherf*ckin south was there." What about antifa? Obama's fault?
Maybe a deep and persistent illness is plaguing undereducated white, male America.
Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 2:27 pm
by RedFromMI
And apparently now he has surrendered...
Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 2:29 pm
by CU88
There's a lot of data showing the disparities in who is captured alive by police and who is not...
Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
RedFromMI wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 1:56 pm
Currently there is a guy in a pickup truck on a sidewalk outside of the Library of Congress trying to get the revolution started:
What a shock that a white man from North Carolina could tell "Biden and Nancy" they better leave unless they "want to hear people scream," and that "labor day weekend they gonna know the motherf*ckin south was there." What about antifa? Obama's fault?
Maybe a deep and persistent illness is plaguing undereducated white, male America.
Well when you don’t have a job Labor Day becomes an open day to whine
Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 6:55 pm
by seacoaster
How stupid is Mo Brooks?
Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 8:10 pm
by youthathletics
seacoaster wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 6:55 pm
How stupid is Mo Brooks?
He's trying to help deflect some of the vitriol directed at Biden?
Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
seacoaster wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 6:55 pm
How stupid is Mo Brooks?
He's trying to help deflect some of the vitriol directed at Biden?
That is nice of him. Seriously, it’s hard to believe these morons can get into Congress.
Tubberville and Brooks. Winning!
Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:20 pm
by CU88
Just a reminder that Matt Gaetz’s wingman, Joel Greenberg, was supposed to be sentenced on federal charges yesterday, but he received a 90-day continuance so he could complete his cooperation with fed’l prosecutors on charges including sex trafficking a minor.
Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:43 pm
by 6ftstick
FBI Finds Scant Evidence U.S. Capitol Attack Was Coordinated-Sources
Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:11 pm
Huh. PB is gone and someone comes back from a long slumber. Just an observation.
Great minds think alike?
Prepared for the abortion thread to get fired back up. Makes sense that there’s commonality between folks who loudly shout on this topic and desiring to go back to 50s style loves where you more dark back alleys where the bloody, likely less sterile environment, ones frequently occurred.
Cant hide our myriad of sins when truth and transparency are so freely available to all.
Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 5:14 pm
by youthathletics
Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:11 pm
Huh. PB is gone and someone comes back from a long slumber. Just an observation.
Uh-oh....this ought to get interesting. Since this is the FBI bringing forth this info, I suppose the TDS'ers can now crap on the FBI since it fits their narrative.
Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:11 pm
Huh. PB is gone and someone comes back from a long slumber. Just an observation.
Uh-oh....this ought to get interesting. Since this is the FBI bringing forth this info, I suppose the TDS'ers can now crap on the FBI since it fits their narrative.
Ever had occasion to see your FBI dossier? You might be surprised.
