Thanks.Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:17 amIt’s absolutely true.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:03 amWell, I think he is proffering the theoretical endgame of the myth that the Second Amendment is intended to arm the populace so that it can rise up against whatever it styles as "tyranny." This is the creepy pseudo-religion of the Gun Cult. "Religion in America" indeed.jhu72 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:00 am... Fenwick Island is a hot bed of insurrection.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:53 amWhat do you mean by "Government needs to be fearful of the population"?Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:41 amNope.jhu72 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 8:43 am Southern Baptists in turmoil. A pox on the CBN house. Not a religion, a recruitment center for white misogynists, homophobes, racists and fascists. MAGA
Fascists and communists are always big government types that want guns out of the hands of freedom lovers.
Anybody for smaller government is always the one that’s best for humanity. Government needs to be fearful of the population.
The national socialist workers party and every other large overpowering government that put people in concentration camps terrorized and killed unarmed populations .
There is no arguing the facts and history. The best antidote to control freaks is well armed populations.
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Great song to celebrate: https://fb.watch/dEAVIXg5UB/
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Local Catholic diocese choses to be on the wrong side of history. The church always does best and becomes most relevant when protecting the weak.
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Another potentially proud moment for the the Catholic Church. Appoint a receiver, marshal the assets, sell up the whole thing, and distribute the money to the poor.jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 8:31 am Local Catholic diocese choses to be on the wrong side of history. The church always does best and becomes most relevant when protecting the weak.
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... Diocese held their meeting this morning and decided to break their relationship with the Worcester Nativity School. School no longer is affiliated with the Catholic Church. The church has no problem being in business with pedophiles, bringing support and hope to the LGBTQ community is a bridge too far for these hypocrites.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:08 amAnother potentially proud moment for the the Catholic Church. Appoint a receiver, marshal the assets, sell up the whole thing, and distribute the money to the poor.jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 8:31 am Local Catholic diocese choses to be on the wrong side of history. The church always does best and becomes most relevant when protecting the weak.
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Disgraceful.jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 10:37 am... Diocese held their meeting this morning and decided to break their relationship with the Worcester Nativity School. School no longer is affiliated with the Catholic Church. The church has no problem being in business with pedophiles, bringing support and hope to the LGBTQ community is a bridge too far for these hypocrites.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:08 amAnother potentially proud moment for the the Catholic Church. Appoint a receiver, marshal the assets, sell up the whole thing, and distribute the money to the poor.jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 8:31 am Local Catholic diocese choses to be on the wrong side of history. The church always does best and becomes most relevant when protecting the weak.
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The satanic church will welcome them with open arms. The Christian church needs to be more like Hunter Biden and get up to date.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 11:18 amDisgraceful.jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 10:37 am... Diocese held their meeting this morning and decided to break their relationship with the Worcester Nativity School. School no longer is affiliated with the Catholic Church. The church has no problem being in business with pedophiles, bringing support and hope to the LGBTQ community is a bridge too far for these hypocrites.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:08 amAnother potentially proud moment for the the Catholic Church. Appoint a receiver, marshal the assets, sell up the whole thing, and distribute the money to the poor.jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 8:31 am Local Catholic diocese choses to be on the wrong side of history. The church always does best and becomes most relevant when protecting the weak.
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A true Christian Church. The answer to the question, what would Jesus do?
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This is not out of the norm, especially for the ECLA. I attend an LCMS Lutheran church, and we have congregants from the same group. ECLA is a bit more progressive, where the LCMSis a bit more conservative. The both equally have the same mission.jhu72 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:44 am A true Christian Church. The answer to the question, what would Jesus do?
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... I was raised Lutheran (mother's church) -- until I saw the light in high school. Father, Southern Baptist, went to church once a year - mother's church. Have no problem with this type of ministry (St. Mark's in the article), they do good for the most part. You can find it among most denominations, to varying degrees. For the most part the Christian churches have become more dogma, more money, more hypocrisy (in recent times much more political) -- less Jesus, much less love, less good in my experience. I don't think I am unique in this experience. It is the reason church attendance and membership is falling off the ledge.youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:09 amThis is not out of the norm, especially for the ECLA. I attend an LCMS Lutheran church, and we have congregants from the same group. ECLA is a bit more progressive, where the LCMSis a bit more conservative. The both equally have the same mission.jhu72 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:44 am A true Christian Church. The answer to the question, what would Jesus do?
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I have witnessed the political aspect first hand and it tends to be the non denominational and Bible type churches. Not so much the foundational Churches.jhu72 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 11:19 am... I was raised Lutheran (mother's church) -- until I saw the light in high school. Father, Southern Baptist, went to church once a year - mother's church. Have no problem with this type of ministry (St. Mark's in the article), they do good for the most part. You can find it among most denominations, to varying degrees. For the most part the Christian churches have become more dogma, more money, more hypocrisy (in recent times much more political) -- less Jesus, much less love, less good in my experience. I don't think I am unique in this experience. It is the reason church attendance and membership is falling off the ledge.youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:09 amThis is not out of the norm, especially for the ECLA. I attend an LCMS Lutheran church, and we have congregants from the same group. ECLA is a bit more progressive, where the LCMSis a bit more conservative. The both equally have the same mission.jhu72 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:44 am A true Christian Church. The answer to the question, what would Jesus do?
Enjoy the weekend jhu and I hope you have a very Happy Fathers Day.
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Once the conservative churches decided to play politics, tell their congregants who and who not to vote for, and took positions on who gets to be loved and who doesn't, they lost generations of members. Mixing religion with politics is what the vaunted Framers knew was bad, and the Right in this country -- all the while avowing their deep respect for the Framers -- have done just that. You don't need a church to deliver love, charity ad hope to people.jhu72 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 11:19 am... I was raised Lutheran (mother's church) -- until I saw the light in high school. Father, Southern Baptist, went to church once a year - mother's church. Have no problem with this type of ministry (St. Mark's in the article), they do good for the most part. You can find it among most denominations, to varying degrees. For the most part the Christian churches have become more dogma, more money, more hypocrisy (in recent times much more political) -- less Jesus, much less love, less good in my experience. I don't think I am unique in this experience. It is the reason church attendance and membership is falling off the ledge.youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:09 amThis is not out of the norm, especially for the ECLA. I attend an LCMS Lutheran church, and we have congregants from the same group. ECLA is a bit more progressive, where the LCMSis a bit more conservative. The both equally have the same mission.jhu72 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:44 am A true Christian Church. The answer to the question, what would Jesus do?
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+1Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:10 amOnce the conservative churches decided to play politics, tell their congregants who and who not to vote for, and took positions on who gets to be loved and who doesn't, they lost generations of members. Mixing religion with politics is what the vaunted Framers knew was bad, and the Right in this country -- all the while avowing their deep respect for the Framers -- have done just that. You don't need a church to deliver love, charity ad hope to people.jhu72 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 11:19 am... I was raised Lutheran (mother's church) -- until I saw the light in high school. Father, Southern Baptist, went to church once a year - mother's church. Have no problem with this type of ministry (St. Mark's in the article), they do good for the most part. You can find it among most denominations, to varying degrees. For the most part the Christian churches have become more dogma, more money, more hypocrisy (in recent times much more political) -- less Jesus, much less love, less good in my experience. I don't think I am unique in this experience. It is the reason church attendance and membership is falling off the ledge.youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:09 amThis is not out of the norm, especially for the ECLA. I attend an LCMS Lutheran church, and we have congregants from the same group. ECLA is a bit more progressive, where the LCMSis a bit more conservative. The both equally have the same mission.jhu72 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:44 am A true Christian Church. The answer to the question, what would Jesus do?
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in Bold: You most certainly do, more now than ever and more importantly when it was ignored, not properly taught and caught as a child.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:10 amOnce the conservative churches decided to play politics, tell their congregants who and who not to vote for, and took positions on who gets to be loved and who doesn't, they lost generations of members. Mixing religion with politics is what the vaunted Framers knew was bad, and the Right in this country -- all the while avowing their deep respect for the Framers -- have done just that. You don't need a church to deliver love, charity ad hope to people.jhu72 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 11:19 am... I was raised Lutheran (mother's church) -- until I saw the light in high school. Father, Southern Baptist, went to church once a year - mother's church. Have no problem with this type of ministry (St. Mark's in the article), they do good for the most part. You can find it among most denominations, to varying degrees. For the most part the Christian churches have become more dogma, more money, more hypocrisy (in recent times much more political) -- less Jesus, much less love, less good in my experience. I don't think I am unique in this experience. It is the reason church attendance and membership is falling off the ledge.youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:09 amThis is not out of the norm, especially for the ECLA. I attend an LCMS Lutheran church, and we have congregants from the same group. ECLA is a bit more progressive, where the LCMSis a bit more conservative. The both equally have the same mission.jhu72 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:44 am A true Christian Church. The answer to the question, what would Jesus do?
Serious question, seacoaster...can you help me understand your comment underlined above, where have you seen this take place?
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You can’t deliver love, charity or hope unless you belong to a church? Is that your position?youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:39 amin Bold: You most certainly do, more now than ever and more importantly when it was ignored, not properly taught and caught as a child.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:10 amOnce the conservative churches decided to play politics, tell their congregants who and who not to vote for, and took positions on who gets to be loved and who doesn't, they lost generations of members. Mixing religion with politics is what the vaunted Framers knew was bad, and the Right in this country -- all the while avowing their deep respect for the Framers -- have done just that. You don't need a church to deliver love, charity ad hope to people.jhu72 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 11:19 am... I was raised Lutheran (mother's church) -- until I saw the light in high school. Father, Southern Baptist, went to church once a year - mother's church. Have no problem with this type of ministry (St. Mark's in the article), they do good for the most part. You can find it among most denominations, to varying degrees. For the most part the Christian churches have become more dogma, more money, more hypocrisy (in recent times much more political) -- less Jesus, much less love, less good in my experience. I don't think I am unique in this experience. It is the reason church attendance and membership is falling off the ledge.youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:09 amThis is not out of the norm, especially for the ECLA. I attend an LCMS Lutheran church, and we have congregants from the same group. ECLA is a bit more progressive, where the LCMSis a bit more conservative. The both equally have the same mission.jhu72 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:44 am A true Christian Church. The answer to the question, what would Jesus do?
Serious question, seacoaster...can you help me understand your comment underlined above, where have you seen this take place?
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NoTypical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:21 pmYou can’t deliver love, charity or hope unless you belong to a church? Is that your position?youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:39 amin Bold: You most certainly do, more now than ever and more importantly when it was ignored, not properly taught and caught as a child.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:10 amOnce the conservative churches decided to play politics, tell their congregants who and who not to vote for, and took positions on who gets to be loved and who doesn't, they lost generations of members. Mixing religion with politics is what the vaunted Framers knew was bad, and the Right in this country -- all the while avowing their deep respect for the Framers -- have done just that. You don't need a church to deliver love, charity ad hope to people.jhu72 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 11:19 am... I was raised Lutheran (mother's church) -- until I saw the light in high school. Father, Southern Baptist, went to church once a year - mother's church. Have no problem with this type of ministry (St. Mark's in the article), they do good for the most part. You can find it among most denominations, to varying degrees. For the most part the Christian churches have become more dogma, more money, more hypocrisy (in recent times much more political) -- less Jesus, much less love, less good in my experience. I don't think I am unique in this experience. It is the reason church attendance and membership is falling off the ledge.youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:09 amThis is not out of the norm, especially for the ECLA. I attend an LCMS Lutheran church, and we have congregants from the same group. ECLA is a bit more progressive, where the LCMSis a bit more conservative. The both equally have the same mission.jhu72 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:44 am A true Christian Church. The answer to the question, what would Jesus do?
Serious question, seacoaster...can you help me understand your comment underlined above, where have you seen this take place?
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Thanks.youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 3:06 pmNoTypical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:21 pmYou can’t deliver love, charity or hope unless you belong to a church? Is that your position?youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:39 amin Bold: You most certainly do, more now than ever and more importantly when it was ignored, not properly taught and caught as a child.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:10 amOnce the conservative churches decided to play politics, tell their congregants who and who not to vote for, and took positions on who gets to be loved and who doesn't, they lost generations of members. Mixing religion with politics is what the vaunted Framers knew was bad, and the Right in this country -- all the while avowing their deep respect for the Framers -- have done just that. You don't need a church to deliver love, charity ad hope to people.jhu72 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 11:19 am... I was raised Lutheran (mother's church) -- until I saw the light in high school. Father, Southern Baptist, went to church once a year - mother's church. Have no problem with this type of ministry (St. Mark's in the article), they do good for the most part. You can find it among most denominations, to varying degrees. For the most part the Christian churches have become more dogma, more money, more hypocrisy (in recent times much more political) -- less Jesus, much less love, less good in my experience. I don't think I am unique in this experience. It is the reason church attendance and membership is falling off the ledge.youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:09 amThis is not out of the norm, especially for the ECLA. I attend an LCMS Lutheran church, and we have congregants from the same group. ECLA is a bit more progressive, where the LCMSis a bit more conservative. The both equally have the same mission.jhu72 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:44 am A true Christian Church. The answer to the question, what would Jesus do?
Serious question, seacoaster...can you help me understand your comment underlined above, where have you seen this take place?
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Are you serious?youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 3:06 pmNoTypical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:21 pmYou can’t deliver love, charity or hope unless you belong to a church? Is that your position?youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:39 amin Bold: You most certainly do, more now than ever and more importantly when it was ignored, not properly taught and caught as a child.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:10 amOnce the conservative churches decided to play politics, tell their congregants who and who not to vote for, and took positions on who gets to be loved and who doesn't, they lost generations of members. Mixing religion with politics is what the vaunted Framers knew was bad, and the Right in this country -- all the while avowing their deep respect for the Framers -- have done just that. You don't need a church to deliver love, charity ad hope to people.jhu72 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 11:19 am... I was raised Lutheran (mother's church) -- until I saw the light in high school. Father, Southern Baptist, went to church once a year - mother's church. Have no problem with this type of ministry (St. Mark's in the article), they do good for the most part. You can find it among most denominations, to varying degrees. For the most part the Christian churches have become more dogma, more money, more hypocrisy (in recent times much more political) -- less Jesus, much less love, less good in my experience. I don't think I am unique in this experience. It is the reason church attendance and membership is falling off the ledge.youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:09 amThis is not out of the norm, especially for the ECLA. I attend an LCMS Lutheran church, and we have congregants from the same group. ECLA is a bit more progressive, where the LCMSis a bit more conservative. The both equally have the same mission.jhu72 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:44 am A true Christian Church. The answer to the question, what would Jesus do?
Serious question, seacoaster...can you help me understand your comment underlined above, where have you seen this take place?
Can't deliver 'love, charity or hope' through a non-religious charity?
How about another religion? a synagogue or mosque or...gotta be a church member?
Non religious people don't love others?
Don't encourage others to have hope?
Don't give to others?
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I think by saying “No,” YA is saying that is not his position. YA, please?