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[cradleandshoot]

There actually is a large body in the Republican party who are devout Christians.

professing, not "devout" Christians

Your heroes Reagan, Bush I, Bush II, tRUMP ~ all wealthy elites who call themselves Christian but who refuse to give away their wealth to the poor as is required by their Bible.

Not all my heroes, although I did like Bush 1.
I think one can be a devout Christian without giving away all one's wealth.

I have known many people who were devout or good Christians, if you prefer, and republicans and who were very good people - only middle class, and were certainly not described by "only those antichrists believe in is the materialist cult of the Almighty Dollar."

you are wasting your time and energy trying to have a conversation with this person. every reply will go back to your hero... fill in the blank.

[cradleandshoot]

Pence said this will largely be over by Memorial Day.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... morial-day

did he say what year?

[Trinity]

You know? He did not.

[Farfromgeneva]

Prince said to party like it was 1999 once.

[Brooklyn]

Not all my heroes, although I did like Bush 1.
I think one can be a devout Christian without giving away all one's wealth.

I have known many people who were devout or good Christians, if you prefer, and republicans and who were very good people - only middle class, and were certainly not described by "only those antichrists believe in is the materialist cult of the Almighty Dollar."

I have known Jews and atheists who are better "Christians" than most Republicans in that they actually practice the generosity and human kindness taught by the New Testament. It is seriously doubtful that our forum pal Cradle and his right wing cohorts could possible match their good conduct.

[youthathletics]

Pence said this will largely be over by Memorial Day.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... morial-day

did he say what year?

Maybe they learned this was all the result of a bad concoction in flu shot this year. Things that make you go hmmmm.....

[Cooter]

There actually is a large body in the Republican party who are devout Christians.

professing, not "devout" Christians

Your heroes Reagan, Bush I, Bush II, tRUMP ~ all wealthy elites who call themselves Christian but who refuse to give away their wealth to the poor as is required by their Bible.

Not all my heroes, although I did like Bush 1.
I think one can be a devout Christian without giving away all one's wealth.

I have known many people who were devout or good Christians, if you prefer, and republicans and who were very good people - only middle class, and were certainly not described by "only those antichrists believe in is the materialist cult of the Almighty Dollar."

you are wasting your time and energy trying to have a conversation with this person. every reply will go back to your hero... fill in the blank.

It appears so. Back to discussing coronavirus.

[Brooklyn]

you are wasting your time and energy trying to have a conversation with this person. every reply will go back to your hero... fill in the blank.

All too often the replies given by delusionals of the far right are nothing more than blank space. Small wonder why they lose every debate in the forum.

[Peter Brown]

There actually is a large body in the Republican party who are devout Christians.

professing, not "devout" Christians

Your heroes Reagan, Bush I, Bush II, tRUMP ~ all wealthy elites who call themselves Christian but who refuse to give away their wealth to the poor as is required by their Bible.

Not all my heroes, although I did like Bush 1.
I think one can be a devout Christian without giving away all one's wealth.

I have known many people who were devout or good Christians, if you prefer, and republicans and who were very good people - only middle class, and were certainly not described by "only those antichrists believe in is the materialist cult of the Almighty Dollar."

you are wasting your time and energy trying to have a conversation with this person. every reply will go back to your hero... fill in the blank.

It appears so. Back to discussing coronavirus.

The more voices outside the left that you listen to, the more you realize that these are not bad people. They are not racists, nazis, or white supremacists. You can have differences of opinions on social and economic issues, but a difference of opinion does not make your opponent inherently evil.

The Right can justify their opinions using arguments, rather than the shouting and ranting you see coming from the Left. Brook is symptomatic of the Left's bubble mentality. No harm, just a sad existence.

[youthathletics]

https://www.post-gazette.com/news/healt ... 2004080113

The new far UVC lamps, in production by Ushio America Inc. and Eden Park Illumination, are not yet approved for medical uses but could be soon.

“The two roadblocks are ramping up to high capacity production and (Food and Drug Administration) approval,” Mr. Brenner said. “A couple of weeks ago my best guess for both might be nine months but we are now trying to go faster than that.

Late last month the FDA issued an advisory that clears the way for use of sterilizer and disinfection devices, including the far-UVC lamps, in hospitals and other public health settings during the unique coronavirus pandemic and prior to formal FDA approval.

Dr. David Atcheson, a retired oral and maxillofacial surgeon in Pittsburgh, said it’s past time to accelerate the UVC approval process and utilize the technology.

“We need someone to push this technology along, someone to shine a light onUV light,” Dr. Atcheson said. “We need to get these lights out there and in use sooner than nine months from now.”

It would be SUPER easy to put UV lights inside of both air intakes and air outtakes where humans wouldn't be anywhere close being exposed to the radiation.

Assuming this kills this particular virus? Sounds like a fantastic way to make being insidoors statistically safer.

Correct....this technology and implementation has been around for decades and put into practice with proven success. https://www.heraeus.com/en/group/produc ... tions.html

[MDlaxfan76]

Not all my heroes, although I did like Bush 1.
I think one can be a devout Christian without giving away all one's wealth.

I have known many people who were devout or good Christians, if you prefer, and republicans and who were very good people - only middle class, and were certainly not described by "only those antichrists believe in is the materialist cult of the Almighty Dollar."

I have known Jews and atheists who are better "Christians" than most Republicans in that they actually practice the generosity and human kindness taught by the New Testament. It is seriously doubtful that our forum pal Cradle and his right wing cohorts could possible match their good conduct.

Come on, please don't go personal with this.

The critique of hypocritical 'Christians' is fine, but let's not do it personally.

BTW, I think you can find lots of people who "practice the generosity and human kindness taught by the New Testament" who are indeed Christians (whether one means evangelicals or includes mainline, Mormons, etc too). some or Republicans, some Dems, some neither.

Likewise you can find these same traits and practices among those who are from a myriad of religions, and from those with no particular religious faith. IMO, no one has an exclusive on this. It does bother me when religious folks claim that their version alone has such an 'exclusive' or that those who do not believe in a higher power necessarily have it right either.

I think your critique is that some of those who proclaim the loudest their devout beliefs often are the least in their actual alignment with these values. And in America, most of that group doing so as "Christians" have aligned in the GOP. I agree.

[MDlaxfan76]

There actually is a large body in the Republican party who are devout Christians.

professing, not "devout" Christians

Your heroes Reagan, Bush I, Bush II, tRUMP ~ all wealthy elites who call themselves Christian but who refuse to give away their wealth to the poor as is required by their Bible.

Not all my heroes, although I did like Bush 1.
I think one can be a devout Christian without giving away all one's wealth.

I have known many people who were devout or good Christians, if you prefer, and republicans and who were very good people - only middle class, and were certainly not described by "only those antichrists believe in is the materialist cult of the Almighty Dollar."

you are wasting your time and energy trying to have a conversation with this person. every reply will go back to your hero... fill in the blank.

It appears so. Back to discussing coronavirus.

The more voices outside the left that you listen to, the more you realize that these are not bad people. They are not racists, nazis, or white supremacists. You can have differences of opinions on social and economic issues, but a difference of opinion does not make your opponent inherently evil.

The Right can justify their opinions using arguments, rather than the shouting and ranting you see coming from the Left. Brook is symptomatic of the Left's bubble mentality. No harm, just a sad existence.

I quite agree with "a difference of opinion does not make your opponent inherently evil." Nor stupid. Nor delusional.

However, there's an awful lot of hate of the LEFT that spews from you PB...pot meet kettle.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Assuming this kills this particular virus? Sounds like a fantastic way to make being indoors statistically safer.

This was brought up a 4-5 weeks ago. UV lightning in places where people congregate. Not sure how to get a powerful light inside the body though.

What I meant was, killing the virus in the air recirculation system of buildings....in the ductwork.

If you already have the virus, UV isn't going to help. Someone needs to point that out to Trump, obviously.

Yes. I saw that. That’s a good idea as well. Really a need on something like an airplane. I was just pointing out that using UV rays in the environment has been postulated. Trump’s use of it was mangled as usual. Just how he is. Nothing new. Anyone that has had to deal with him off camera knows he is not the smartest guy. His mental capacity is sliding in front of the nation’s eyes. I have heard from people that said I told them but they didn’t really believe it because “he is Donald Trump”. I will give him credit for his ability to brand himself and gain publicity.

[6ftstick]

Assuming this kills this particular virus? Sounds like a fantastic way to make being indoors statistically safer.

This was brought up a 4-5 weeks ago. UV lightning in places where people congregate. Not sure how to get a powerful light inside the body though.

What I meant was, killing the virus in the air recirculation system of buildings....in the ductwork.

If you already have the virus, UV isn't going to help. Someone needs to point that out to Trump, obviously.

Yes. I saw that. That’s a good idea as well. Really a need on something like an airplane. I was just pointing out that using UV rays in the environment has been postulated. Trump’s use of it was mangled as usual. Just how he is. Nothing new. Anyone that has had to deal with him off camera knows he is not the smartest guy. His mental capacity is sliding in front of the nation’s eyes. I have heard from people that said I told them but they didn’t really believe it because “he is Donald Trump”. I will give him credit for his ability to brand himself and gain publicity.

Says the Joe Biden supporter!

[Peter Brown]

There actually is a large body in the Republican party who are devout Christians.

professing, not "devout" Christians

Your heroes Reagan, Bush I, Bush II, tRUMP ~ all wealthy elites who call themselves Christian but who refuse to give away their wealth to the poor as is required by their Bible.

Not all my heroes, although I did like Bush 1.
I think one can be a devout Christian without giving away all one's wealth.

I have known many people who were devout or good Christians, if you prefer, and republicans and who were very good people - only middle class, and were certainly not described by "only those antichrists believe in is the materialist cult of the Almighty Dollar."

you are wasting your time and energy trying to have a conversation with this person. every reply will go back to your hero... fill in the blank.

It appears so. Back to discussing coronavirus.

The more voices outside the left that you listen to, the more you realize that these are not bad people. They are not racists, nazis, or white supremacists. You can have differences of opinions on social and economic issues, but a difference of opinion does not make your opponent inherently evil.

The Right can justify their opinions using arguments, rather than the shouting and ranting you see coming from the Left. Brook is symptomatic of the Left's bubble mentality. No harm, just a sad existence.

I quite agree with "a difference of opinion does not make your opponent inherently evil." Nor stupid. Nor delusional.

However, there's an awful lot of hate of the LEFT that spews from you PB...pot meet kettle.

To the core fundamental issue of why the United States was established, most Democrats are inherently against that framework (freedom of speech, individualism, entrepreneurialism, small government, excellence, American exceptionalism).

I'm generally surprised the country has tolerated it as long as we have, except for this fact: most people are not doers, and Democrats by and large are not doers. The tolerance comes from knowing that the mob is larger than the creators, and so you need to compromise.

Not too complicated.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Assuming this kills this particular virus? Sounds like a fantastic way to make being indoors statistically safer.

This was brought up a 4-5 weeks ago. UV lightning in places where people congregate. Not sure how to get a powerful light inside the body though.

What I meant was, killing the virus in the air recirculation system of buildings....in the ductwork.

If you already have the virus, UV isn't going to help. Someone needs to point that out to Trump, obviously.

Yes. I saw that. That’s a good idea as well. Really a need on something like an airplane. I was just pointing out that using UV rays in the environment has been postulated. Trump’s use of it was mangled as usual. Just how he is. Nothing new. Anyone that has had to deal with him off camera knows he is not the smartest guy. His mental capacity is sliding in front of the nation’s eyes. I have heard from people that said I told them but they didn’t really believe it because “he is Donald Trump”. I will give him credit for his ability to brand himself and gain publicity.

Says the Joe Biden supporter!

I will vote for a tree stump.

[6ftstick]

Assuming this kills this particular virus? Sounds like a fantastic way to make being indoors statistically safer.

This was brought up a 4-5 weeks ago. UV lightning in places where people congregate. Not sure how to get a powerful light inside the body though.

What I meant was, killing the virus in the air recirculation system of buildings....in the ductwork.

If you already have the virus, UV isn't going to help. Someone needs to point that out to Trump, obviously.

Yes. I saw that. That’s a good idea as well. Really a need on something like an airplane. I was just pointing out that using UV rays in the environment has been postulated. Trump’s use of it was mangled as usual. Just how he is. Nothing new. Anyone that has had to deal with him off camera knows he is not the smartest guy. His mental capacity is sliding in front of the nation’s eyes. I have heard from people that said I told them but they didn’t really believe it because “he is Donald Trump”. I will give him credit for his ability to brand himself and gain publicity.

Says the Joe Biden supporter!

I will vote for a tree stump.

Which might be more alert than Joe.

[MDlaxfan76]

There actually is a large body in the Republican party who are devout Christians.

professing, not "devout" Christians

Your heroes Reagan, Bush I, Bush II, tRUMP ~ all wealthy elites who call themselves Christian but who refuse to give away their wealth to the poor as is required by their Bible.

Not all my heroes, although I did like Bush 1.
I think one can be a devout Christian without giving away all one's wealth.

I have known many people who were devout or good Christians, if you prefer, and republicans and who were very good people - only middle class, and were certainly not described by "only those antichrists believe in is the materialist cult of the Almighty Dollar."

you are wasting your time and energy trying to have a conversation with this person. every reply will go back to your hero... fill in the blank.

It appears so. Back to discussing coronavirus.

The more voices outside the left that you listen to, the more you realize that these are not bad people. They are not racists, nazis, or white supremacists. You can have differences of opinions on social and economic issues, but a difference of opinion does not make your opponent inherently evil.

The Right can justify their opinions using arguments, rather than the shouting and ranting you see coming from the Left. Brook is symptomatic of the Left's bubble mentality. No harm, just a sad existence.

I quite agree with "a difference of opinion does not make your opponent inherently evil." Nor stupid. Nor delusional.

However, there's an awful lot of hate of the LEFT that spews from you PB...pot meet kettle.

To the core fundamental issue of why the United States was established, most Democrats are inherently against that framework (freedom of speech, individualism, entrepreneurialism, small government, excellence, American exceptionalism).

I'm generally surprised the country has tolerated it as long as we have, except for this fact: most people are not doers, and Democrats by and large are not doers. The tolerance comes from knowing that the mob is larger than the creators, and so you need to compromise.

Not too complicated.

I rest my case.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Assuming this kills this particular virus? Sounds like a fantastic way to make being indoors statistically safer.

This was brought up a 4-5 weeks ago. UV lightning in places where people congregate. Not sure how to get a powerful light inside the body though.

What I meant was, killing the virus in the air recirculation system of buildings....in the ductwork.

If you already have the virus, UV isn't going to help. Someone needs to point that out to Trump, obviously.

Yes. I saw that. That’s a good idea as well. Really a need on something like an airplane. I was just pointing out that using UV rays in the environment has been postulated. Trump’s use of it was mangled as usual. Just how he is. Nothing new. Anyone that has had to deal with him off camera knows he is not the smartest guy. His mental capacity is sliding in front of the nation’s eyes. I have heard from people that said I told them but they didn’t really believe it because “he is Donald Trump”. I will give him credit for his ability to brand himself and gain publicity.

Says the Joe Biden supporter!

I will vote for a tree stump.

Which might be more alert than Joe.

#DTIAC

[Typical Lax Dad]

There actually is a large body in the Republican party who are devout Christians.

professing, not "devout" Christians

Your heroes Reagan, Bush I, Bush II, tRUMP ~ all wealthy elites who call themselves Christian but who refuse to give away their wealth to the poor as is required by their Bible.

Not all my heroes, although I did like Bush 1.
I think one can be a devout Christian without giving away all one's wealth.

I have known many people who were devout or good Christians, if you prefer, and republicans and who were very good people - only middle class, and were certainly not described by "only those antichrists believe in is the materialist cult of the Almighty Dollar."

you are wasting your time and energy trying to have a conversation with this person. every reply will go back to your hero... fill in the blank.

It appears so. Back to discussing coronavirus.

The more voices outside the left that you listen to, the more you realize that these are not bad people. They are not racists, nazis, or white supremacists. You can have differences of opinions on social and economic issues, but a difference of opinion does not make your opponent inherently evil.

The Right can justify their opinions using arguments, rather than the shouting and ranting you see coming from the Left. Brook is symptomatic of the Left's bubble mentality. No harm, just a sad existence.

I quite agree with "a difference of opinion does not make your opponent inherently evil." Nor stupid. Nor delusional.

However, there's an awful lot of hate of the LEFT that spews from you PB...pot meet kettle.

To the core fundamental issue of why the United States was established, most Democrats are inherently against that framework (freedom of speech, individualism, entrepreneurialism, small government, excellence, American exceptionalism).

I'm generally surprised the country has tolerated it as long as we have, except for this fact: most people are not doers, and Democrats by and large are not doers. The tolerance comes from knowing that the mob is larger than the creators, and so you need to compromise.

Not too complicated.

I rest my case.

Doers: https://www.zippia.com/advice/10-states ... od-stamps/