Re: Is America a racist nation?
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:01 am
To the mindless radical far right, the term trolling applies to anyone who dares to post words that stray from their aberrant "thoughts" and destructive, subversive ideas.
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hmmm, I don't really agree that it's "trolling" to post a cartoon making the point it does...in this thread topic. Indeed, it's right on topic.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:27 am The first one is straight trolling.
But "admin" only cares when Pete's doing it.
You can't possibly be this naive about this CRT discussion MD. It is no longer about the theory, it is about CRT becoming a poison pill in the political sense. YOUR republicans sense that the subject is very unpopular with all those white suburban moms. The democrats have no choice but to disassociate themselves from any hint of supporting CRT in any contested political district. I give YOUR republicans credit for doing so. When you are given an opportunity from the other side you take advantage of it. The democrats are disavowing any knowledge of CRT in schools. They are pretending like it never even existed. Your shaming YOUR party for taking advantage of the gift that fell into their lap? That is what the game of politics is all about, taking advantage of mistakes the other side makes.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:30 amhmmm, I don't really agree that it's "trolling" to post a cartoon making the point it does...in this thread topic. Indeed, it's right on topic.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:27 am The first one is straight trolling.
But "admin" only cares when Pete's doing it.
I take issue, fairly often, with Brooklyn's lumping of all Republicans together as if a monolith, but the fundamental point here is that there are really no GOP elected officials of note pushing back against the nonsense being spewed at the local school board level and on right wing media about "CRT". And this effort to 'whitewash' history has been a longstanding effort, "CRT" outrage simply being a current version.
Fair topic, not trolling.
I just didn't find it 'clever'.
Plop the same cartoon into a thread on COVID, that'd be another matter.
IMO
And yet, it is oh so dumb and so revealing of what these racist a-holes think of 'white suburban moms'.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:50 pmYou can't possibly be this naive about this CRT discussion MD. It is no longer about the theory, it is about CRT becoming a poison pill in the political sense. YOUR republicans sense that the subject is very unpopular with all those white suburban moms. The democrats have no choice but to disassociate themselves from any hint of supporting CRT in any contested political district. I give YOUR republicans credit for doing so. When you are given an opportunity from the other side you take advantage of it. The democrats are disavowing any knowledge of CRT in schools. They are pretending like it never even existed. Your shaming YOUR party for taking advantage of the gift that fell into their lap? That is what the game of politics is all about, taking advantage of mistakes the other side makes.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:30 amhmmm, I don't really agree that it's "trolling" to post a cartoon making the point it does...in this thread topic. Indeed, it's right on topic.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:27 am The first one is straight trolling.
But "admin" only cares when Pete's doing it.
I take issue, fairly often, with Brooklyn's lumping of all Republicans together as if a monolith, but the fundamental point here is that there are really no GOP elected officials of note pushing back against the nonsense being spewed at the local school board level and on right wing media about "CRT". And this effort to 'whitewash' history has been a longstanding effort, "CRT" outrage simply being a current version.
Fair topic, not trolling.
I just didn't find it 'clever'.
Plop the same cartoon into a thread on COVID, that'd be another matter.
IMO
Correct. Completely agree. Except that it isn't all over the place. 92% is not all over the place -- it is one dominant place.Kinda proved this point earlier a fw weeks back when different states taught the 'main reason' of the Civil war..it's all over the place. Can't even get that taught accuratley.
how about instead of CRT, we teach QBADA - quite being a dumb ass
I look at it like this.....and maybe it is far too simplistic, since I am not a believer in harboring ill will and forgiving the past....onward, just like a goalie.ggait wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:38 pmCorrect. Completely agree. Except that it isn't all over the place. 92% is not all over the place -- it is one dominant place.Kinda proved this point earlier a fw weeks back when different states taught the 'main reason' of the Civil war..it's all over the place. Can't even get that taught accuratley.
how about instead of CRT, we teach QBADA - quite being a dumb ass
Which means that we should stop teaching (as we have been doing for the last hundred years) the complete and utter bull shirt propaganda mandated by snowflake white washers. The main cause of the Civil War was slavery. Which only 8% of USA high school seniors know/identify.
It wasn't about states rights or tariffs or sectionalism/regionalism. It was about slavery. Period. Full stop.
The projection coming from the rightie snowflakes is beyond epic. After successfully gaslighting the country for 100 years, they now go ballistic when folks start teaching the truth. And the snowflake backlash against the truth proves beyond any doubt why CRT exists and how valid its viewpoint is.
TBD if the racist projecting will be effective with those white suburban moms. If it is, well then I guess those white suburban moms will have shown us who they really are -- mouth breathing snowflakes who can't handle the truth.
Everything up to the 'fear of teaching CRT' is good stuff.youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:25 pmI look at it like this.....and maybe it is far too simplistic, since I am not a believer in harboring ill will and forgiving the past....onward, just like a goalie.ggait wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:38 pmCorrect. Completely agree. Except that it isn't all over the place. 92% is not all over the place -- it is one dominant place.Kinda proved this point earlier a fw weeks back when different states taught the 'main reason' of the Civil war..it's all over the place. Can't even get that taught accuratley.
how about instead of CRT, we teach QBADA - quite being a dumb ass
Which means that we should stop teaching (as we have been doing for the last hundred years) the complete and utter bull shirt propaganda mandated by snowflake white washers. The main cause of the Civil War was slavery. Which only 8% of USA high school seniors know/identify.
It wasn't about states rights or tariffs or sectionalism/regionalism. It was about slavery. Period. Full stop.
The projection coming from the rightie snowflakes is beyond epic. After successfully gaslighting the country for 100 years, they now go ballistic when folks start teaching the truth. And the snowflake backlash against the truth proves beyond any doubt why CRT exists and how valid its viewpoint is.
TBD if the racist projecting will be effective with those white suburban moms. If it is, well then I guess those white suburban moms will have shown us who they really are -- mouth breathing snowflakes who can't handle the truth.
I believe teaching empathy, forgiveness, civility, discernment, professionalism, etc....would much better be served for our children and young adults. Start each day with a hug, a handshake, a pat on the back, eye contact....and at the close of each school day, the very same. The more you become connected with each other, the less anger can be stored. Intimacy ( In to me you see) breaks down barriers. My fear of teaching CRT, is that it runs the risk of unintended consequences, whereas the former I suggested, is something new, which is inclusive for everyone and has no prejudices.
Who exactly is in charge of the honest recounting of history? What your telling me is everything students have been taught in history for generations is fiddle faddle. Your telling me CRT is not being taught at any level in any school and then proclaim CRT is just an "honest" recounting of history. Too bad no students will ever learn it if as you say it is not being taught.MDlaxfan76 wrote:Wed Jul 21, 2021 1:11 pmAnd yet, it is oh so dumb and so revealing of what these racist a-holes think of 'white suburban moms'.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:50 pmYou can't possibly be this naive about this CRT discussion MD. It is no longer about the theory, it is about CRT becoming a poison pill in the political sense. YOUR republicans sense that the subject is very unpopular with all those white suburban moms. The democrats have no choice but to disassociate themselves from any hint of supporting CRT in any contested political district. I give YOUR republicans credit for doing so. When you are given an opportunity from the other side you take advantage of it. The democrats are disavowing any knowledge of CRT in schools. They are pretending like it never even existed. Your shaming YOUR party for taking advantage of the gift that fell into their lap? That is what the game of politics is all about, taking advantage of mistakes the other side makes.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:30 amhmmm, I don't really agree that it's "trolling" to post a cartoon making the point it does...in this thread topic. Indeed, it's right on topic.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:27 am The first one is straight trolling.
But "admin" only cares when Pete's doing it.
I take issue, fairly often, with Brooklyn's lumping of all Republicans together as if a monolith, but the fundamental point here is that there are really no GOP elected officials of note pushing back against the nonsense being spewed at the local school board level and on right wing media about "CRT". And this effort to 'whitewash' history has been a longstanding effort, "CRT" outrage simply being a current version.
Fair topic, not trolling.
I just didn't find it 'clever'.
Plop the same cartoon into a thread on COVID, that'd be another matter.
IMO
And no, CRT has never been part of elementary, middle and high school curriculums. Never.
What HAS been getting pushed is an honest recounting of history, inclusive of the perspective of that history from the point of view of those who were once considered less than a full person.
Do liberals sometimes over swing? You betcha.
Do they sometimes flub their 'branding'? You betcha.
But this all about wanting to keep white washing history...bunch of snowflakes.
ahhh, cradle, I suppose you're hopeless...do you not read (or remember) what others write on here?cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:16 pmWho exactly is in charge of the honest recounting of history? What your telling me is everything students have been taught in history for generations is fiddle faddle. Your telling me CRT is not being taught at any level in any school and then proclaim CRT is just an "honest" recounting of history. Too bad no students will ever learn it if as you say it is not being taught.MDlaxfan76 wrote:Wed Jul 21, 2021 1:11 pmAnd yet, it is oh so dumb and so revealing of what these racist a-holes think of 'white suburban moms'.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:50 pmYou can't possibly be this naive about this CRT discussion MD. It is no longer about the theory, it is about CRT becoming a poison pill in the political sense. YOUR republicans sense that the subject is very unpopular with all those white suburban moms. The democrats have no choice but to disassociate themselves from any hint of supporting CRT in any contested political district. I give YOUR republicans credit for doing so. When you are given an opportunity from the other side you take advantage of it. The democrats are disavowing any knowledge of CRT in schools. They are pretending like it never even existed. Your shaming YOUR party for taking advantage of the gift that fell into their lap? That is what the game of politics is all about, taking advantage of mistakes the other side makes.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:30 amhmmm, I don't really agree that it's "trolling" to post a cartoon making the point it does...in this thread topic. Indeed, it's right on topic.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:27 am The first one is straight trolling.
But "admin" only cares when Pete's doing it.
I take issue, fairly often, with Brooklyn's lumping of all Republicans together as if a monolith, but the fundamental point here is that there are really no GOP elected officials of note pushing back against the nonsense being spewed at the local school board level and on right wing media about "CRT". And this effort to 'whitewash' history has been a longstanding effort, "CRT" outrage simply being a current version.
Fair topic, not trolling.
I just didn't find it 'clever'.
Plop the same cartoon into a thread on COVID, that'd be another matter.
IMO
And no, CRT has never been part of elementary, middle and high school curriculums. Never.
What HAS been getting pushed is an honest recounting of history, inclusive of the perspective of that history from the point of view of those who were once considered less than a full person.
Do liberals sometimes over swing? You betcha.
Do they sometimes flub their 'branding'? You betcha.
But this all about wanting to keep white washing history...bunch of snowflakes.
It may be oh so dumb of those white a holes but their goal is to win elections. When the other side hands you the club you beat them over the head with it. Al Davis said it the best.."just win baby"
Cradle -- two direct honest questions for you.Or, heck, how about the simple fact that the Civil War was fundamentally about the secessionist south wanting to continue slavery.
And who will the "winners" be?cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:16 pmWho exactly is in charge of the honest recounting of history? What your telling me is everything students have been taught in history for generations is fiddle faddle. Your telling me CRT is not being taught at any level in any school and then proclaim CRT is just an "honest" recounting of history. Too bad no students will ever learn it if as you say it is not being taught.MDlaxfan76 wrote:Wed Jul 21, 2021 1:11 pmAnd yet, it is oh so dumb and so revealing of what these racist a-holes think of 'white suburban moms'.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:50 pmYou can't possibly be this naive about this CRT discussion MD. It is no longer about the theory, it is about CRT becoming a poison pill in the political sense. YOUR republicans sense that the subject is very unpopular with all those white suburban moms. The democrats have no choice but to disassociate themselves from any hint of supporting CRT in any contested political district. I give YOUR republicans credit for doing so. When you are given an opportunity from the other side you take advantage of it. The democrats are disavowing any knowledge of CRT in schools. They are pretending like it never even existed. Your shaming YOUR party for taking advantage of the gift that fell into their lap? That is what the game of politics is all about, taking advantage of mistakes the other side makes.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:30 amhmmm, I don't really agree that it's "trolling" to post a cartoon making the point it does...in this thread topic. Indeed, it's right on topic.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:27 am The first one is straight trolling.
But "admin" only cares when Pete's doing it.
I take issue, fairly often, with Brooklyn's lumping of all Republicans together as if a monolith, but the fundamental point here is that there are really no GOP elected officials of note pushing back against the nonsense being spewed at the local school board level and on right wing media about "CRT". And this effort to 'whitewash' history has been a longstanding effort, "CRT" outrage simply being a current version.
Fair topic, not trolling.
I just didn't find it 'clever'.
Plop the same cartoon into a thread on COVID, that'd be another matter.
IMO
And no, CRT has never been part of elementary, middle and high school curriculums. Never.
What HAS been getting pushed is an honest recounting of history, inclusive of the perspective of that history from the point of view of those who were once considered less than a full person.
Do liberals sometimes over swing? You betcha.
Do they sometimes flub their 'branding'? You betcha.
But this all about wanting to keep white washing history...bunch of snowflakes.
It may be oh so dumb of those white a holes but their goal is to win elections. When the other side hands you the club you beat them over the head with it. Al Davis said it the best.."just win baby"
ggait wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 6:20 pmCradle -- two direct honest questions for you.Or, heck, how about the simple fact that the Civil War was fundamentally about the secessionist south wanting to continue slavery.
1. Do you think slavery was the primary cause of the Civil War? Yes or no answer please.
2. If yes, do you think that should be taught in public schools. Yes or no answer please.
Which team you on Baby?cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:16 pmWho exactly is in charge of the honest recounting of history? What your telling me is everything students have been taught in history for generations is fiddle faddle. Your telling me CRT is not being taught at any level in any school and then proclaim CRT is just an "honest" recounting of history. Too bad no students will ever learn it if as you say it is not being taught.MDlaxfan76 wrote:Wed Jul 21, 2021 1:11 pmAnd yet, it is oh so dumb and so revealing of what these racist a-holes think of 'white suburban moms'.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:50 pmYou can't possibly be this naive about this CRT discussion MD. It is no longer about the theory, it is about CRT becoming a poison pill in the political sense. YOUR republicans sense that the subject is very unpopular with all those white suburban moms. The democrats have no choice but to disassociate themselves from any hint of supporting CRT in any contested political district. I give YOUR republicans credit for doing so. When you are given an opportunity from the other side you take advantage of it. The democrats are disavowing any knowledge of CRT in schools. They are pretending like it never even existed. Your shaming YOUR party for taking advantage of the gift that fell into their lap? That is what the game of politics is all about, taking advantage of mistakes the other side makes.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:30 amhmmm, I don't really agree that it's "trolling" to post a cartoon making the point it does...in this thread topic. Indeed, it's right on topic.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:27 am The first one is straight trolling.
But "admin" only cares when Pete's doing it.
I take issue, fairly often, with Brooklyn's lumping of all Republicans together as if a monolith, but the fundamental point here is that there are really no GOP elected officials of note pushing back against the nonsense being spewed at the local school board level and on right wing media about "CRT". And this effort to 'whitewash' history has been a longstanding effort, "CRT" outrage simply being a current version.
Fair topic, not trolling.
I just didn't find it 'clever'.
Plop the same cartoon into a thread on COVID, that'd be another matter.
IMO
And no, CRT has never been part of elementary, middle and high school curriculums. Never.
What HAS been getting pushed is an honest recounting of history, inclusive of the perspective of that history from the point of view of those who were once considered less than a full person.
Do liberals sometimes over swing? You betcha.
Do they sometimes flub their 'branding'? You betcha.
But this all about wanting to keep white washing history...bunch of snowflakes.
It may be oh so dumb of those white a holes but their goal is to win elections. When the other side hands you the club you beat them over the head with it. Al Davis said it the best.."just win baby"
Don't need a time machine. Just need to be able to read.Did you time-travel to 1860 and become expert on the people back then? Let us know what you discovered!!!
There is video of him in class:ggait wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:12 pmDon't need a time machine. Just need to be able to read.Did you time-travel to 1860 and become expert on the people back then? Let us know what you discovered!!!
Kan/Neb Act 1954 repealing the Missouri Compromise. Dred Scott decision 1857. Lincoln elected in November 1860 on a GOP platform opposing any expansion of slavery beyond the existing southern states. Southern states begin seceding in December 1860.
Pretty simple stuff. Even a Gator troll should be able to understand it.
What the heck do they teach at UF?
This stood out in the article you cited...Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:46 pmhttps://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna443526
https://www.chron.com/news/article/Data ... 600808.php
Ain’t nothing like fair competition.
It’s called skimming off the top of society…..haven’t you heard “why do West Indians do better than black Americans?” Carry your ass down to Trinidad and ask….youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:19 pmThis stood out in the article you cited...Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:46 pmhttps://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna443526
https://www.chron.com/news/article/Data ... 600808.php
Ain’t nothing like fair competition.
“ As Jennifer Lee points out, more than 50% of Chinese immigrants in the U.S. have a bachelor’s degree. In China, the rate is about 5%.”
Does that not mean that they take advantage or the opportunities provided in America and in China those opportunities are then limited? I don’t know. The children of those intellectual Chinese in America are also succeeding, according to the author from the video link.
I suppose it’s complicated.