Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

[runrussellrun]

You think tRump is running the country

No...Rachell Maddow is..... You win. I am wrong about Trump running the country....Who is letting Stephen Miller set policy? Pence?

be specific....what "policy" is Miller setting that is law? That affects/effects our lives? I hate being ignorant. Inform please.

[old salt]

Then the hardliners from both parties were brought in, they played to their bases, & the whole thing blew up.

Hey. Remember my immigration plan ? I've been for legitimizing the renewable residency of all non-felon, self supporting, undocumented persons already here.

That's why I'm also for border security & closing the asylum loophole, to reduce the pull & staunch the surge which amnesty will generate.

Initially, it looked like Trump was heading in that direction.

Nope, he was never heading in that direction....you know Sessions and Miller were running the "deport them" program. Do Trump properties use e-verify?

Trump appears to endorse a path to citizenship for millions of undocumented immigrants

It was a NYT headline. It has to be true.

https://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/ ... ation-bill

President Donald Trump might be open to comprehensive immigration legislation — or maybe not.

Sen. Joe Manchin IIItold reporters following his meeting with Trump and other senators on Thursday that the president was open to the so-called Gang of Eight immigration bill that passed the Senate in 2013 with a supermajority but never saw the light of day in the House.

After the meeting, Manchin told CQ Roll Call that the senators in the room “were all pleasantly surprised” that Trump said he was open to reviewing that legislation. “He’s very inquisitive, you know? And realizes that we don’t have a good immigration policy in the United States, and that was very refreshing to hear because we know we don’t.”

...Trump, during the meeting, said he is “willing to look at” anything the Gang of Eight might come up with, and expressed his support for the group trying again, the official said.

Manchin said that it was Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., who raised the issue during their meeting and was explicit about what the bill did.

“So at that time, that’s when, I think it was Sen. Alexander at the time, brought it up and says, ‘I believe you can be the president that changes that.’ And then explained to him the Gang of Eight, the bill that we had, and he basically seemed very interested in knowing more about that bill and people getting together and breaking it down and let’s look at it,” Manchin told CQ Roll Call.


The 2013 immigration bill, had it been signed into law, would have ramped up interior enforcement and border security in return for a pathway to legal status for a majority of the 11 million people living illegally in the United States. The bill passed the Senate by a 68-32 vote, but then-Speaker John A. Boehner, R-Ohio, declined to allow House consideration, due to pressure from conservatives.

Trump initially indicated he'd sign anything that passed Congress, so long as it gave him something he could call a Wall. Including the Gang of 8 bill.

[Typical Lax Dad]

You think tRump is running the country

No...Rachell Maddow is..... You win. I am wrong about Trump running the country....Who is letting Stephen Miller set policy? Pence?

be specific....what "policy" is Miller setting that is law? That affects/effects our lives? I hate being ignorant. Inform please.

Policy isn't law....but you know that.

[runrussellrun]

guess we can't find any quotes from pretend liberal politicians parrotting the same rants that Miller spews regarding illegals

but, thank you for specifics......perpetual ignorance I shall remain on these threads.

[Typical Lax Dad]

guess we can't find any quotes from pretend liberal politicians parrotting the same rants that Miller spews regarding illegals

but, thank you for specifics......perpetual ignorance I shall remain on these threads.

Miller's problems aren't with just illegal immigrants.

https://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2 ... t-families

https://capitalandmain.com/stephen-mill ... ation-0620

http://www.philly.com/philly/columnists ... 80712.html

[a fan]

be specific....what "policy" is Miller setting that is law? That affects/effects our lives? I hate being ignorant. Inform please

Simple. He's one of many torepedo-ing any potential reform bills. So we get status quo, and Trump can keep right on hiring illegals at his properties.

That affects our lives.

[runrussellrun]

be specific....what "policy" is Miller setting that is law? That affects/effects our lives? I hate being ignorant. Inform please

Simple. He's one of many torepedo-ing any potential reform bills. So we get status quo, and Trump can keep right on hiring illegals at his properties.

That affects our lives.

He votes?

TAATS isn't an excuse, its a reality. Pretends on both sides wanna claim otherwize

[Typical Lax Dad]

be specific....what "policy" is Miller setting that is law? That affects/effects our lives? I hate being ignorant. Inform please

Simple. He's one of many torepedo-ing any potential reform bills. So we get status quo, and Trump can keep right on hiring illegals at his properties.

That affects our lives.

He votes?

TAATS isn't an excuse, its a reality. Pretends on both sides wanna claim otherwize

Who is running the country?

[a fan]

Hey. Remember my immigration plan ? I've been for legitimizing the renewable residency of all non-felon, self supporting, undocumented persons already here.

That's why I'm also for border security & closing the asylum loophole, to reduce the pull & staunch the surge which amnesty will generate.

Initially, it looked like Trump was heading in that direction.

No, no----my fault again, poor posting. Where we disagree is that you think Trump is trying to pass a reform bill.

I told you two things when Trump was elected, and before he took office.

One was that they wouldn't repeal and replace Obamacare. Simply because the R base is the biggest "taker" of government services when it comes to health care subsidies. That coupled with the simple fact hat you can't take the government subsidies away, while at the same time get premiums to go down, and you know that they're bluffing and full of crap. And shocker, as I predicted, they didn't pass a bill...or didn't simply repeal "the worst bill ever" in Obamacare. If it was so bad----repeal it. Boom. Done.

They didn't do that. And Republican voters learned NOTHING from this obvious lack of action..... what you are asking as voters is impossible.

Second was that they wouldn't pass an immigration reform bill. And this was even worse that the Trumpcare debacle---they didn't even bother to get a bill to the point where they'd hold a vote. These politicians are playing you, and have no intention of fixing a problem that every other 1st world country in the world has handled just fine. They profit from the status quo, and won't fix this. Period.

That is where we disagree. You think they are working in earnest. I think they're full of it and are getting rich on the current system.

As for immigration itself, I know you have a 100% reasonable plan that I would have no problem supporting!

[a fan]

be specific....what "policy" is Miller setting that is law? That affects/effects our lives? I hate being ignorant. Inform please

Simple. He's one of many torepedo-ing any potential reform bills. So we get status quo, and Trump can keep right on hiring illegals at his properties.

That affects our lives.

He votes?

TAATS isn't an excuse, its a reality. Pretends on both sides wanna claim otherwize

Riiiight. Only the people who vote have power in DC. Boy, you're really taking "playing dumb" to a new level today.

As for TAATS---I wrote that Miller is simply one of many powers in DC working to keep the status quo with immigration.

[runrussellrun]

guess we can't find any quotes from pretend liberal politicians parrotting the same rants that Miller spews regarding illegals

but, thank you for specifics......perpetual ignorance I shall remain on these threads.

Miller's problems aren't with just illegal immigrants.

https://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2 ... t-families

man, you post some lame comments, but this link is unbearably pathetic.

"enforce policies"?????

Wasn't Obama the deporter and chief? exactly. Remain unbiasedly ignorant, especially when it comes to splitting policy hairs. The results (family seperation) were the same.

[runrussellrun]

be specific....what "policy" is Miller setting that is law? That affects/effects our lives? I hate being ignorant. Inform please

Simple. He's one of many torepedo-ing any potential reform bills. So we get status quo, and Trump can keep right on hiring illegals at his properties.

That affects our lives.

He votes?

TAATS isn't an excuse, its a reality. Pretends on both sides wanna claim otherwize

Riiiight. Only the people who vote have power in DC. Boy, you're really taking "playing dumb" to a new level today.

As for TAATS---I wrote that Miller is simply one of many powers in DC working to keep the status quo with immigration.

you mean all those overseas PAC and bundlers have power? No one on these threads wants to hear it. (clinton/china/satellites. Bush/sauds/) and the whole slew on miscreants getting MIC funds for selling killing weapons, especially to our "enemy-allies".
Something about ugly porn stars and a reality tv show in the white house....way important. Greatest diversion evah.

[Typical Lax Dad]

guess we can't find any quotes from pretend liberal politicians parrotting the same rants that Miller spews regarding illegals

but, thank you for specifics......perpetual ignorance I shall remain on these threads.

Miller's problems aren't with just illegal immigrants.

https://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2 ... t-families

man, you post some lame comments, but this link is unbearably pathetic.

"enforce policies"?????

Wasn't Obama the deporter and chief? exactly. Remain unbiasedly ignorant, especially when it comes to splitting policy hairs. The results (family seperation) were the same.

You mean the Obamer that deported more people from the middle of the country than anyone..... and asked for more money to upgrade security at the border than anyone...... that Obamer? the racist feller you are always talking about?

[runrussellrun]

guess we can't find any quotes from pretend liberal politicians parrotting the same rants that Miller spews regarding illegals

but, thank you for specifics......perpetual ignorance I shall remain on these threads.

Miller's problems aren't with just illegal immigrants.

https://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2 ... t-families

man, you post some lame comments, but this link is unbearably pathetic.

"enforce policies"?????

Wasn't Obama the deporter and chief? exactly. Remain unbiasedly ignorant, especially when it comes to splitting policy hairs. The results (family seperation) were the same.

You mean the Obamer that deported more people from the middle of the country than anyone..... and asked for more money to upgrade security at the border than anyone...... that Obamer? the racist feller you are always talking about?

Obama is no more racist for attending a david duke church than the actual one he attended. TUCC

SO you agree with me, that your linked article is stupid in terms of Miller proposing "new" policies that already existed, and have, for almost two decades?

classic

[Typical Lax Dad]

guess we can't find any quotes from pretend liberal politicians parrotting the same rants that Miller spews regarding illegals

but, thank you for specifics......perpetual ignorance I shall remain on these threads.

Miller's problems aren't with just illegal immigrants.

https://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2 ... t-families

man, you post some lame comments, but this link is unbearably pathetic.

"enforce policies"?????

Wasn't Obama the deporter and chief? exactly. Remain unbiasedly ignorant, especially when it comes to splitting policy hairs. The results (family seperation) were the same.

You mean the Obamer that deported more people from the middle of the country than anyone..... and asked for more money to upgrade security at the border than anyone...... that Obamer? the racist feller you are always talking about?

Obama is no more racist for attending a david duke church than the actual one he attended. TUCC

SO you agree with me, that your linked article is stupid in terms of Miller proposing "new" policies that already existed, and have, for almost two decades?

classic

You are right.... Nothing has changed in the last 24 months. That Obamer feller is as racist as they come and a terrorist to boot with those weather folks.

[kramerica.inc]

ICE and DHS run fake university to shut down “Visa-Mills” and catch “pay to stay” illegals:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ice-ran-f ... immigrants

https://amp.freep.com/amp/2724992002?__ ... mpression=

I was ready to blast Trump, like everyone on Twitter. When I realized the program was started in 2015, and copies a program started just a few years earlier...

[Typical Lax Dad]

ICE and DHS run fake university to shut down “Visa-Mills” and catch “pay to stay” illegals:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ice-ran-f ... immigrants

https://amp.freep.com/amp/2724992002?__ ... mpression=

I was ready to blast Trump, like everyone on Twitter. When I realized the program was started in 2015, and copies a program started just a few years earlier...

Let us not forget these folks

[jhu72]

WAPO is now reporting that Trump's flagship Bedminster resort / golf course had an established pipeline of illegals coming into the country from a town in Costa Rica. Large numbers involved in the pipeline over time. The whole town is talking freely about the situation.

Chicago Tribune Story

[youthathletics]

Proof that he knows immigration is an issue, don’t underestimate why he knows things, he’s quite smarter than you give him credit.

[jhu72]

Proof that he knows immigration is an issue, don’t underestimate why he knows things, he’s quite smarter than you give him credit.

He is a criminal, willfully breaking US immigration law. He and his "traitor tots".