DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:14 am
What's not clean about their game?
If they're not playing clean, they're playing dirty?
Yes! Was speaking with a parent from team that played them in fall very dirty.
Guess that makes 'em dirty then.
Coach teaching them to play dirty?
Dirty to you, tough to another?
Parent said a lot of swinging of sticks, pushing in backs after shots, pushing envelop on every play. Idk to me that’s not clean play .
Parent says so that makes it so.
I think parents are a good source. After all, don’t their daughters give them feedback after the game?
HAHAHAHA....parents are an absolutely awful source. They see things through rose colored glasses through the specter of how it plays out for their own kids and kids team. I would say that, me included, in games their child is in parents have little objectivity.
I think the brush stroke is a little too broad on this statement. I give parents a little more credit than that.
Lets just say that after playing, being on the sideline, up and down the East coast watching and 8 years of watching kids play in college I will stand by my statement. Yes, I fall into this at times.
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DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:54 am
Cuse too and they've been accused of playing dirty but they don't.
They totally play dirty sometimes. I’ve seen enough incidents over the years to come to that conclusion. I don’t know if Treanor will allow that style to continue now that she’s in charge, but before her the team was typically rough and chippy, and on occasion, yes, dirty.
Totally agree, and it came back to haunt Syracuse in their last game they played last year. What was it, four yellow cards in the first half?. Kind of hard to recover from that when you’re playing a woman down for that much time.
Well remembered and well stated. 3 yellows in the first and yellows and greens in the 2nd. In addition to the knee Meaghan Tyrrell gave Belle Smith in the first half that went undetected by the refs.
Start watching about 15 seconds in. Meaghan deliberately slowed her pace to have her knee right where Smith was falling. That’s dirty all day every day in my book.
What is your infatuation with this particular series of events in this game? Do you have a vendetta against the Tyrrell sisters for some unfounded reason? Do you have an obsession with painting the Syracuse program in a bad light? Syracuse is not a dirty team, and Meaghan Tyrrell is certainly not a dirty player. She's a fantastic attacker that rarely makes mistakes; she can dodge, pass, cut, shoot, and score. The one time she makes a poor decision, you choose to monotonously cast a magnifying glass over it. Get over it.
You say that you can't find examples of North Carolina or Maryland swinging their sticks or being aggressive or "dirty" or "chippy" or even "thuggy". Whereas I can recall several instances of these teams displaying this exact kind of behavior. In the 2014 National Championship game between Cuse and Maryland, Alice Mercer and Megan Douty double-teamed Katie Webster, Webster split them and Douty slashed her in the neck; this was called as a normal foul. In the 2015 National Championship game between UNC and Maryland, Douty hit Sam McGee in the face while she shot and scored the ball; the refs never called that either. My point of all this is you can literally find instances of almost any player in division 1 women's lacrosse where they are seemingly playing "rough" or "aggressively". You don't define an entire player's career, or an entire team's reputation as "dirty" or "thuggy" or any other word that implies bad intent, based on those isolated incidents.
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 1:15 pm
by OuttaNowhereWregget
laxer12 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 1:05 pm
What is your infatuation with this particular series of events in this game? Do you have a vendetta against the Tyrrell sisters for some unfounded reason? Do you have an obsession with painting the Syracuse program in a bad light? Syracuse is not a dirty team, and Meaghan Tyrrell is certainly not a dirty player. She's a fantastic attacker that rarely makes mistakes; she can dodge, pass, cut, shoot, and score. The one time she makes a poor decision, you choose to monotonously cast a magnifying glass over it. Get over it.
You say that you can't find examples of North Carolina or Maryland swinging their sticks or being aggressive or "dirty" or "chippy" or even "thuggy". Whereas I can recall several instances of these teams displaying this exact kind of behavior. In the 2014 National Championship game between Cuse and Maryland, Alice Mercer and Megan Douty double-teamed Katie Webster, Webster split them and Douty slashed her in the neck; this was called as a normal foul. In the 2015 National Championship game between UNC and Maryland, Douty hit Sam McGee in the face while she shot and scored the ball; the refs never called that either. My point of all this is you can literally find instances of almost any player in division 1 women's lacrosse where they are seemingly playing "rough" or "aggressively". You don't define an entire player's career, or an entire team's reputation as "dirty" or "thuggy" or any other word that implies bad intent, based on those isolated incidents.
I think my position is being misrepresented and certain comments I have made on this topic are being ignored. Also, I’m hardly alone in my perspective on Syracuse here...
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 1:19 pm
by DMac
OuttaNowhereWregget wrote
Did M. Tyrrell intentionally knee Smith or not?
How do you misinterpret this?
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OuttaNowhereWregget wrote
Did M. Tyrrell intentionally knee Smith or not?
How do you misinterpret this?
I interpret it exactly how I wrote it. I also stand by it. But that’s a far cry from having a vendetta or an obsession. Another started this topic, and I joined that conversation.
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laxer12 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 1:05 pm
What is your infatuation with this particular series of events in this game? Do you have a vendetta against the Tyrrell sisters for some unfounded reason? Do you have an obsession with painting the Syracuse program in a bad light? Syracuse is not a dirty team, and Meaghan Tyrrell is certainly not a dirty player. She's a fantastic attacker that rarely makes mistakes; she can dodge, pass, cut, shoot, and score. The one time she makes a poor decision, you choose to monotonously cast a magnifying glass over it. Get over it.
You say that you can't find examples of North Carolina or Maryland swinging their sticks or being aggressive or "dirty" or "chippy" or even "thuggy". Whereas I can recall several instances of these teams displaying this exact kind of behavior. In the 2014 National Championship game between Cuse and Maryland, Alice Mercer and Megan Douty double-teamed Katie Webster, Webster split them and Douty slashed her in the neck; this was called as a normal foul. In the 2015 National Championship game between UNC and Maryland, Douty hit Sam McGee in the face while she shot and scored the ball; the refs never called that either. My point of all this is you can literally find instances of almost any player in division 1 women's lacrosse where they are seemingly playing "rough" or "aggressively". You don't define an entire player's career, or an entire team's reputation as "dirty" or "thuggy" or any other word that implies bad intent, based on those isolated incidents.
I think my position is being misrepresented and certain comments I have made on this topic are being ignored. Also, I’m hardly alone in my perspective on Syracuse here...
Just admit you hate Syracuse and relish any and all opportunities you have to paint them in a bad light and cast their talented, hardworking players as bad actors with intent to harm fellow opponents. I would have more respect for you then.
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DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:14 am
What's not clean about their game?
If they're not playing clean, they're playing dirty?
Yes! Was speaking with a parent from team that played them in fall very dirty.
Guess that makes 'em dirty then.
Coach teaching them to play dirty?
Dirty to you, tough to another?
Parent said a lot of swinging of sticks, pushing in backs after shots, pushing envelop on every play. Idk to me that’s not clean play .
Parent says so that makes it so.
I think parents are a good source. After all, don’t their daughters give them feedback after the game?
HAHAHAHA....parents are an absolutely awful source. They see things through rose colored glasses through the specter of how it plays out for their own kids and kids team. I would say that, me included, in games their child is in parents have little objectivity.
I think the brush stroke is a little too broad on this statement. I give parents a little more credit than that.
Lets just say that after playing, being on the sideline, up and down the East coast watching and 8 years of watching kids play in college I will stand by my statement. Yes, I fall into this at times.
Wait, were you the one yelling "go to goal"!
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DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:14 am
What's not clean about their game?
If they're not playing clean, they're playing dirty?
Yes! Was speaking with a parent from team that played them in fall very dirty.
Guess that makes 'em dirty then.
Coach teaching them to play dirty?
Dirty to you, tough to another?
Parent said a lot of swinging of sticks, pushing in backs after shots, pushing envelop on every play. Idk to me that’s not clean play .
Parent says so that makes it so.
I think parents are a good source. After all, don’t their daughters give them feedback after the game?
HAHAHAHA....parents are an absolutely awful source. They see things through rose colored glasses through the specter of how it plays out for their own kids and kids team. I would say that, me included, in games their child is in parents have little objectivity.
I think the brush stroke is a little too broad on this statement. I give parents a little more credit than that.
Lets just say that after playing, being on the sideline, up and down the East coast watching and 8 years of watching kids play in college I will stand by my statement. Yes, I fall into this at times.
Wait, were you the one yelling "go to goal"!
Ha! Absolutely not…..more likely THAT’S NOT SHOOTING SPACE
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DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:14 am
What's not clean about their game?
If they're not playing clean, they're playing dirty?
Yes! Was speaking with a parent from team that played them in fall very dirty.
Guess that makes 'em dirty then.
Coach teaching them to play dirty?
Dirty to you, tough to another?
Parent said a lot of swinging of sticks, pushing in backs after shots, pushing envelop on every play. Idk to me that’s not clean play .
Parent says so that makes it so.
I think parents are a good source. After all, don’t their daughters give them feedback after the game?
HAHAHAHA....parents are an absolutely awful source. They see things through rose colored glasses through the specter of how it plays out for their own kids and kids team. I would say that, me included, in games their child is in parents have little objectivity.
I think the brush stroke is a little too broad on this statement. I give parents a little more credit than that.
Lets just say that after playing, being on the sideline, up and down the East coast watching and 8 years of watching kids play in college I will stand by my statement. Yes, I fall into this at times.
Wait, were you the one yelling "go to goal"!
Ha! Absolutely not…..more likely THAT’S NOT SHOOTING SPACE
And I was yelling "that's a yellow card"
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DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:14 am
What's not clean about their game?
If they're not playing clean, they're playing dirty?
Yes! Was speaking with a parent from team that played them in fall very dirty.
Guess that makes 'em dirty then.
Coach teaching them to play dirty?
Dirty to you, tough to another?
Parent said a lot of swinging of sticks, pushing in backs after shots, pushing envelop on every play. Idk to me that’s not clean play .
Parent says so that makes it so.
I think parents are a good source. After all, don’t their daughters give them feedback after the game?
HAHAHAHA....parents are an absolutely awful source. They see things through rose colored glasses through the specter of how it plays out for their own kids and kids team. I would say that, me included, in games their child is in parents have little objectivity.
I think the brush stroke is a little too broad on this statement. I give parents a little more credit than that.
Lets just say that after playing, being on the sideline, up and down the East coast watching and 8 years of watching kids play in college I will stand by my statement. Yes, I fall into this at times.
Wait, were you the one yelling "go to goal"!
Ha! Absolutely not…..more likely THAT’S NOT SHOOTING SPACE
And I was yelling "that's a yellow card"
When can I say "wheeeeels"?
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DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:14 am
What's not clean about their game?
If they're not playing clean, they're playing dirty?
Yes! Was speaking with a parent from team that played them in fall very dirty.
Guess that makes 'em dirty then.
Coach teaching them to play dirty?
Dirty to you, tough to another?
Parent said a lot of swinging of sticks, pushing in backs after shots, pushing envelop on every play. Idk to me that’s not clean play .
Parent says so that makes it so.
I think parents are a good source. After all, don’t their daughters give them feedback after the game?
HAHAHAHA....parents are an absolutely awful source. They see things through rose colored glasses through the specter of how it plays out for their own kids and kids team. I would say that, me included, in games their child is in parents have little objectivity.
I think the brush stroke is a little too broad on this statement. I give parents a little more credit than that.
Lets just say that after playing, being on the sideline, up and down the East coast watching and 8 years of watching kids play in college I will stand by my statement. Yes, I fall into this at times.
Wait, were you the one yelling "go to goal"!
Ha! Absolutely not…..more likely THAT’S NOT SHOOTING SPACE
And I was yelling "that's a yellow card"
When can I say "wheeeeels"?
Any time! It universally works at either end of the field!!!
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DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:14 am
What's not clean about their game?
If they're not playing clean, they're playing dirty?
Yes! Was speaking with a parent from team that played them in fall very dirty.
Guess that makes 'em dirty then.
Coach teaching them to play dirty?
Dirty to you, tough to another?
Parent said a lot of swinging of sticks, pushing in backs after shots, pushing envelop on every play. Idk to me that’s not clean play .
Parent says so that makes it so.
I think parents are a good source. After all, don’t their daughters give them feedback after the game?
HAHAHAHA....parents are an absolutely awful source. They see things through rose colored glasses through the specter of how it plays out for their own kids and kids team. I would say that, me included, in games their child is in parents have little objectivity.
I think the brush stroke is a little too broad on this statement. I give parents a little more credit than that.
Lets just say that after playing, being on the sideline, up and down the East coast watching and 8 years of watching kids play in college I will stand by my statement. Yes, I fall into this at times.
Wait, were you the one yelling "go to goal"!
Ha! Absolutely not…..more likely THAT’S NOT SHOOTING SPACE
And I was yelling "that's a yellow card"
When can I say "wheeeeels"?
Any time! It universally works at either end of the field!!!
My eldest played in a game this summer against Eric Trump's daughter. The whole time an elderly gentleman kept screaming "Lock her up!!!"
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:57 pm
by DMac
Absolutely priceless!!!
Oh my, this girl might be in for a very rough time.
Wow (didn't know there were any Trump girls playing wlax).
Honest evaluation, Mr. Opener, is she any good?
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:45 pm
by DMac
C'mon, open the can and spill the beans!!
Playah, not a playah?
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DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:54 am
Cuse too and they've been accused of playing dirty but they don't.
They totally play dirty sometimes. I’ve seen enough incidents over the years to come to that conclusion. I don’t know if Treanor will allow that style to continue now that she’s in charge, but before her the team was typically rough and chippy, and on occasion, yes, dirty.
Totally agree, and it came back to haunt Syracuse in their last game they played last year. What was it, four yellow cards in the first half?. Kind of hard to recover from that when you’re playing a woman down for that much time.
Well remembered and well stated. 3 yellows in the first and yellows and greens in the 2nd. In addition to the knee Meaghan Tyrrell gave Belle Smith in the first half that went undetected by the refs.
Start watching about 15 seconds in. Meaghan deliberately slowed her pace to have her knee right where Smith was falling. That’s dirty all day every day in my book.
What is your infatuation with this particular series of events in this game? Do you have a vendetta against the Tyrrell sisters for some unfounded reason? Do you have an obsession with painting the Syracuse program in a bad light? Syracuse is not a dirty team, and Meaghan Tyrrell is certainly not a dirty player. She's a fantastic attacker that rarely makes mistakes; she can dodge, pass, cut, shoot, and score. The one time she makes a poor decision, you choose to monotonously cast a magnifying glass over it. Get over it.
You say that you can't find examples of North Carolina or Maryland swinging their sticks or being aggressive or "dirty" or "chippy" or even "thuggy". Whereas I can recall several instances of these teams displaying this exact kind of behavior. In the 2014 National Championship game between Cuse and Maryland, Alice Mercer and Megan Douty double-teamed Katie Webster, Webster split them and Douty slashed her in the neck; this was called as a normal foul. In the 2015 National Championship game between UNC and Maryland, Douty hit Sam McGee in the face while she shot and scored the ball; the refs never called that either. My point of all this is you can literally find instances of almost any player in division 1 women's lacrosse where they are seemingly playing "rough" or "aggressively". You don't define an entire player's career, or an entire team's reputation as "dirty" or "thuggy" or any other word that implies bad intent, based on those isolated incidents.
In Kayla Treanor’s initial press conference at Syracuse she stated that her team would need to play with discipline, to me that says a lot , questionable fouls definitely fall into that category. Now anyone can commit a foul once in a while but there are others who on a game by game basis are consistently committing the border line hard foul ( I’m thinking of a defender who wore # 0 some years ago as a prime example as well as a certain defender this past year ) Northwestern has a couple as well , consistently on a game by game basis they are just laying people out. Northwestern pushes the envelope every year and then pays for it in the playoffs ( see last years game vs Syracuse ) when games are consistently called much tighter. You correctly recalled UMD defenders laying the wood in 2 instances but neither player was guilty of fouling on a consistent basis.
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:38 pm
by Can Opener
DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:45 pm
C'mon, open the can and spill the beans!!
Playah, not a playah?
Just pulling your leg, my friend. Not sure how that vision of The Donald popped into my head. Gotta cut back on my day drinking.
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:17 pm
by DMac
Well done, bit hook, line and sinker.
Was soooo looking forward to this girl's career.
Was wondering if she inherited any of Melania's looks.
Oh wait.....
