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[email protected] wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 1:42 pm Of course my perspective of the William and Mary coaching situation isn't the reality of everyone on the team. But I am not alone. There are many girls and parents that are unhappy. I don't feel like I need to convince you. I am speaking the truth as I know it and you can choose to believe it or not. The administration doesn't want a lot of turnover (she hasn't been there that long, so I think they are hoping this will go away). We will see. They have given her some direction so they are addressing it, so for you to say that they would definitely be doing something more is uninformed. Whether she gets fired or not doesn't negate the feelings of the girls, parents and ex-coaches. (and by the way there has also been turn over with their conditioning coaches b/c of the head coach). And to be clear when you say "people get fired for far less than what you are describing" - I have purposely not included all of the sordid details on this thread, because it would be inappropriate. So to say that there isn't enough here for you to believe it is also uninformed. Am I saying everyone hates her- no. I am saying there has been a toxic environment and it has caused a ton of turn over (a provable fact). The origin of this conversation came from a question about the turnover. I am giving a perspective (and adding that it is shared by others), that's all.

Outstanding post. Well stated.

LaxDadMax wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 8:41 am

Relax77 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2023 6:22 pm Bottom line. At W&M…. Are the kids complaining? Or just the coaches? That’s what really matters. Sometime there is legitimate problems ie Coastal three years ago and the AD acts on it. Other times kids complain and nothing happens. Ie Colgate. Not sure what’s going on at that program. But once again. That’s what I believe is important. How os ot for the kids.

The biggest challenge at Colgate is they haven't had an AD for a year. (And from what I heard no-one wants the job. Women's lax isn't the only sport where they have a coaching issues)

Likely admin just doesn't want to get involved.

Colgate is a train wreck. One Senior quit and lots of unhappy women on that team. The administration is protecting the coach for some reason.

I heard a player recently quit the team at W&M... where there is smoke there is fire

bstone wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 11:17 am I heard a player recently quit the team at W&M... where there is smoke there is fire

Multiple players quit at UVA this fall too. It happens in a lot of places. Not always an indicator of anything or some big issue.

hmmm wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 12:13 pm

bstone wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 11:17 am I heard a player recently quit the team at W&M... where there is smoke there is fire

Multiple players quit at UVA this fall too. It happens in a lot of places. Not always an indicator of anything of some big issue.

Who quit at UVA this fall? Haven't heard anything since Rachel Clark left this summer.

Sycamore wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 12:40 pm

hmmm wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 12:13 pm

bstone wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 11:17 am I heard a player recently quit the team at W&M... where there is smoke there is fire

Multiple players quit at UVA this fall too. It happens in a lot of places. Not always an indicator of anything of some big issue.

Who quit at UVA this fall? Haven't heard anything since Rachel Clark left this summer.

Not going to out people. Compare last year's roster to this year's. One of them is quite a big loss.

Not sure if she is one of the ones you are talking about, but where did Finley Barger go?

laxfan9999 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 1:58 pm Not sure if she is one of the ones you are talking about, but where did Finley Barger go?

She's still on roster.

Players class as listed on last year's roster:

Junior:
Shannon Garvey - defense
Aubrey Williams - midfield

Sophomore:
Kate Robertson - defense
Chase Melchionni - attack

OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 5:53 pm Players class as listed on last year's roster:

Junior:
Shannon Garvey - defense
Aubrey Williams - midfield

Sophomore:
Kate Robertson - defense
Chase Melchionni - attack

Think Williams took nearly every draw for the Hoos last season.

Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 7:28 pm

OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 5:53 pm Players class as listed on last year's roster:

Junior:
Shannon Garvey - defense
Aubrey Williams - midfield

Sophomore:
Kate Robertson - defense
Chase Melchionni - attack

Think Williams took nearly every draw for the Hoos last season.

Absolutely and 2nd team all ACC. A big deal. Assuming more fallout related to the coaching change.

watcherinthewoods wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 8:31 pm

Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 7:28 pm

OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 5:53 pm Players class as listed on last year's roster:

Junior:
Shannon Garvey - defense
Aubrey Williams - midfield

Sophomore:
Kate Robertson - defense
Chase Melchionni - attack

Think Williams took nearly every draw for the Hoos last season.

Absolutely and 2nd team all ACC. A big deal. Assuming more fallout related to the coaching change.

This is not a big surprise. Complete coaching staff change. Unsurprising fallout. Uva will be just fine this year. Bette r than people think…

Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 7:28 pm Think Williams took nearly every draw for the Hoos last season.

You may be right, Sea. Though many won DC's last year, perhaps the many benefited from Williams being the main/sole DC specialist. (I hate to post such a monster big image, but it's difficult to peruse stats if smaller.)

Anyone know what the deal is with the HC leaving at Quinnipiac? Always strange to see a change so close to the start of the season.

https://gobobcats.com/news/2024/1/3/qu ... ogram.aspx

In other coaching news, Hollie Schleicher named assistant at Cornell a few weeks back. Schoellkopf a pretty good spot to start your coaching career. Safe to say she will demand defensive and ground ball commitment from her players—“Kamikaze” commitment as one poster put it.

Yell Cornell

GratefulRed wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:03 pm In other coaching news, Hollie Schleicher named assistant at Cornell a few weeks back. Schoellkopf a pretty good spot to start your coaching career. Safe to say she will demand defensive and ground ball commitment from her players—“Kamikaze” commitment as one poster put it.

Yell Cornell

Yep--that was Seacoaster. I hope he's often inspired to write about the sport on the WD1 boards this season. His weekly polls with short explanations are a more interesting and enjoyable read above anything IL Women or USA Lacrosse magazine puts out. Couple of examples from last season here:

viewtopic.php?p=432833#p432833

viewtopic.php?p=435295#p435295

He's not afraid to make predictions either which is always fun. If there's one team he could be said to root against it's Northwestern. His thoughts on the BC-Northwestern rematch are interesting in hindsight.

All to say, a WD1 board with Seacoaster participating is a much more compelling place.

On Schleicher--her entire career changed during the fateful February '23 regular season game at Northwestern. She was injured during the contest and never got back to her normal playing speed or impact. (Not to get off track here--but Izzy Scane coming back from injury bolder and stronger and more skilled is a rarity. Unfortunately, most players come back from injury closer to Schleicher than Scane.) The impression I got was that Hollie was going against bigger tougher players in Evanston and found herself overpowered/out of her depth somehow. (So very difficult to find out about player injuries. For the most part a given players injury status is guarded like launch codes--most especially at Boston College.) She played sparingly the rest of 2023. A sad ending to a great career which includes a national championship among her many awards and accolades. I hope she does well in her coaching career.

OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 4:18 am

GratefulRed wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:03 pm In other coaching news, Hollie Schleicher named assistant at Cornell a few weeks back. Schoellkopf a pretty good spot to start your coaching career. Safe to say she will demand defensive and ground ball commitment from her players—“Kamikaze” commitment as one poster put it.

Yell Cornell

On Schleicher--her entire career changed during the fateful February '23 regular season game at Northwestern. She was injured during the contest and never got back to her normal playing speed or impact. (Not to get off track here--but Izzy Scane coming back from injury bolder and stronger and more skilled is a rarity. Unfortunately, most players come back from injury closer to Schleicher than Scane.) The impression I got was that Hollie was going against bigger tougher players in Evanston and found herself overpowered/out of her depth somehow.

? Who wants to tell him?

ONW TRY NOT TO MENTION IZZY SCANE OR “The Purple Gang” CHALLENGE!!!!
FAILED

lacrosselaxin20 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 11:03 am ONW TRY NOT TO MENTION IZZY SCANE OR “The Purple Gang” CHALLENGE!!!!
FAILED

THE most fascinating player I've ever watched. And one of my all time favorite teams. Might as well challenge me to stop breathing.

Quinnipiac drama...