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Re: Taliban reclaims Afghanistan

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:27 pm
by Brooklyn
cradle,
Iranians fleeced BHO
Ain't that how BHO settled things with the Iranians?

Cradle makes up his usual array of fairy tales.

Let's see some evidence of moral, principled Republicans paying compensation to Iran for Operation Ajax in 1953, exterminating innocent people, and stealing multiple billions in resources.

Re: Taliban reclaims Afghanistan

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:33 am
by kramerica.inc
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:09 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:00 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:54 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:52 pm https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/th ... d=msedgntp

"until they get more our of the americans"

I guess the Taliban were taking notes when the Iranians fleeced BHO. Time to start packing gold and cold hard cash onto the C130s. It looks like Deja Vu all over again. Maybe some of the enlightened more progressive folks on this forum can explain what "getting more out of the Americans" is suppose to mean? I'm sure I know. :D
We holding some Afghan money?
Ain't that how BHO settled things with the Iranians? How many C130s will it take this time? I suppose Biden could use the Afghan money being held as a down payment for all the military hardware we gave them. What is the going rate for 45 blackhawk helicopters and say 300 thousand plus automatic rifles and goodness knows how many other armored vehicles? WE can throw all the ammo in for free. :roll: Will the Taliban demand interest on that cash? :D
Are we holding Afghan money? Some of that equipment belongs to Afghanistan. Not a political party. Whomever is in charge can use it as they see fit. To the victor goes the spoils.
Pretty sure the US has $5-7B of Afghanistan money tied up right now.

Re: Taliban reclaims Afghanistan

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:44 am
by youthathletics
kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:33 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:09 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:00 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:54 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:52 pm https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/th ... d=msedgntp

"until they get more our of the americans"

I guess the Taliban were taking notes when the Iranians fleeced BHO. Time to start packing gold and cold hard cash onto the C130s. It looks like Deja Vu all over again. Maybe some of the enlightened more progressive folks on this forum can explain what "getting more out of the Americans" is suppose to mean? I'm sure I know. :D
We holding some Afghan money?
Ain't that how BHO settled things with the Iranians? How many C130s will it take this time? I suppose Biden could use the Afghan money being held as a down payment for all the military hardware we gave them. What is the going rate for 45 blackhawk helicopters and say 300 thousand plus automatic rifles and goodness knows how many other armored vehicles? WE can throw all the ammo in for free. :roll: Will the Taliban demand interest on that cash? :D
Are we holding Afghan money? Some of that equipment belongs to Afghanistan. Not a political party. Whomever is in charge can use it as they see fit. To the victor goes the spoils.
"To the victor goes the spoils"

Pretty sure the US has $5-7B of Afghanistan money tied up right now.
"To the victor goes the spoils" TLD - what are you implying, that yes, we lost the war and the Taliban not only defeated the Afghanis but also defeated the US? Seems it is still our equipment if the Afghani Army is not using it.

Re: Taliban reclaims Afghanistan

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:57 am
by Typical Lax Dad
kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:33 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:09 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:00 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:54 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:52 pm https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/th ... d=msedgntp

"until they get more our of the americans"

I guess the Taliban were taking notes when the Iranians fleeced BHO. Time to start packing gold and cold hard cash onto the C130s. It looks like Deja Vu all over again. Maybe some of the enlightened more progressive folks on this forum can explain what "getting more out of the Americans" is suppose to mean? I'm sure I know. :D
We holding some Afghan money?
Ain't that how BHO settled things with the Iranians? How many C130s will it take this time? I suppose Biden could use the Afghan money being held as a down payment for all the military hardware we gave them. What is the going rate for 45 blackhawk helicopters and say 300 thousand plus automatic rifles and goodness knows how many other armored vehicles? WE can throw all the ammo in for free. :roll: Will the Taliban demand interest on that cash? :D
Are we holding Afghan money? Some of that equipment belongs to Afghanistan. Not a political party. Whomever is in charge can use it as they see fit. To the victor goes the spoils.
Pretty sure the US has $5-7B of Afghanistan money tied up right now.
Thanks. So it’s ours now?

Re: Taliban reclaims Afghanistan

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:06 pm
by Kismet
youthathletics wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:44 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:33 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:09 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:00 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:54 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:52 pm https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/th ... d=msedgntp

"until they get more our of the americans"

I guess the Taliban were taking notes when the Iranians fleeced BHO. Time to start packing gold and cold hard cash onto the C130s. It looks like Deja Vu all over again. Maybe some of the enlightened more progressive folks on this forum can explain what "getting more out of the Americans" is suppose to mean? I'm sure I know. :D
We holding some Afghan money?
Ain't that how BHO settled things with the Iranians? How many C130s will it take this time? I suppose Biden could use the Afghan money being held as a down payment for all the military hardware we gave them. What is the going rate for 45 blackhawk helicopters and say 300 thousand plus automatic rifles and goodness knows how many other armored vehicles? WE can throw all the ammo in for free. :roll: Will the Taliban demand interest on that cash? :D
Are we holding Afghan money? Some of that equipment belongs to Afghanistan. Not a political party. Whomever is in charge can use it as they see fit. To the victor goes the spoils.
"To the victor goes the spoils"

Pretty sure the US has $5-7B of Afghanistan money tied up right now.
"To the victor goes the spoils" TLD - what are you implying, that yes, we lost the war and the Taliban not only defeated the Afghanis but also defeated the US? Seems it is still our equipment if the Afghani Army is not using it.
"Possession is nine-tenths of the law" is more relevant in this case. :lol:

The old Texian war cry to the Mexican government is also relevant - "Come and Take It" :lol:

Re: Taliban reclaims Afghanistan

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:07 pm
by runrussellrun
youthathletics wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:44 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:33 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:09 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:00 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:54 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:52 pm https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/th ... d=msedgntp

"until they get more our of the americans"

I guess the Taliban were taking notes when the Iranians fleeced BHO. Time to start packing gold and cold hard cash onto the C130s. It looks like Deja Vu all over again. Maybe some of the enlightened more progressive folks on this forum can explain what "getting more out of the Americans" is suppose to mean? I'm sure I know. :D
We holding some Afghan money?
Ain't that how BHO settled things with the Iranians? How many C130s will it take this time? I suppose Biden could use the Afghan money being held as a down payment for all the military hardware we gave them. What is the going rate for 45 blackhawk helicopters and say 300 thousand plus automatic rifles and goodness knows how many other armored vehicles? WE can throw all the ammo in for free. :roll: Will the Taliban demand interest on that cash? :D
Are we holding Afghan money? Some of that equipment belongs to Afghanistan. Not a political party. Whomever is in charge can use it as they see fit. To the victor goes the spoils.
"To the victor goes the spoils"

Pretty sure the US has $5-7B of Afghanistan money tied up right now.
"To the victor goes the spoils" TLD - what are you implying, that yes, we lost the war and the Taliban not only defeated the Afghanis but also defeated the US? Seems it is still our equipment if the Afghani Army is not using it.
90% of US funded "military" or gun carrying caucasians are private contractors. On what planet, has any of this changed ?

Re: Taliban reclaims Afghanistan

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:27 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
youthathletics wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:44 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:33 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:09 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:00 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:54 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:52 pm https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/th ... d=msedgntp

"until they get more our of the americans"

I guess the Taliban were taking notes when the Iranians fleeced BHO. Time to start packing gold and cold hard cash onto the C130s. It looks like Deja Vu all over again. Maybe some of the enlightened more progressive folks on this forum can explain what "getting more out of the Americans" is suppose to mean? I'm sure I know. :D
We holding some Afghan money?
Ain't that how BHO settled things with the Iranians? How many C130s will it take this time? I suppose Biden could use the Afghan money being held as a down payment for all the military hardware we gave them. What is the going rate for 45 blackhawk helicopters and say 300 thousand plus automatic rifles and goodness knows how many other armored vehicles? WE can throw all the ammo in for free. :roll: Will the Taliban demand interest on that cash? :D
Are we holding Afghan money? Some of that equipment belongs to Afghanistan. Not a political party. Whomever is in charge can use it as they see fit. To the victor goes the spoils.
"To the victor goes the spoils"

Pretty sure the US has $5-7B of Afghanistan money tied up right now.
"To the victor goes the spoils" TLD - what are you implying, that yes, we lost the war and the Taliban not only defeated the Afghanis but also defeated the US? Seems it is still our equipment if the Afghani Army is not using it.
Is the country becoming Talibanistan? Send a reservation of rights letter.

Re: Taliban reclaims Afghanistan

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:33 pm
by youthathletics
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:27 pm
youthathletics wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:44 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:33 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:09 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:00 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:54 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:52 pm https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/th ... d=msedgntp

"until they get more our of the americans"

I guess the Taliban were taking notes when the Iranians fleeced BHO. Time to start packing gold and cold hard cash onto the C130s. It looks like Deja Vu all over again. Maybe some of the enlightened more progressive folks on this forum can explain what "getting more out of the Americans" is suppose to mean? I'm sure I know. :D
We holding some Afghan money?
Ain't that how BHO settled things with the Iranians? How many C130s will it take this time? I suppose Biden could use the Afghan money being held as a down payment for all the military hardware we gave them. What is the going rate for 45 blackhawk helicopters and say 300 thousand plus automatic rifles and goodness knows how many other armored vehicles? WE can throw all the ammo in for free. :roll: Will the Taliban demand interest on that cash? :D
Are we holding Afghan money? Some of that equipment belongs to Afghanistan. Not a political party. Whomever is in charge can use it as they see fit. To the victor goes the spoils.
"To the victor goes the spoils"

Pretty sure the US has $5-7B of Afghanistan money tied up right now.
"To the victor goes the spoils" TLD - what are you implying, that yes, we lost the war and the Taliban not only defeated the Afghanis but also defeated the US? Seems it is still our equipment if the Afghani Army is not using it.
Is the country becoming Talibanistan? Send a reservation of rights letter.
That was my point, b/c the intended party failed to use it for their advantage, it in theory is defaulted back to the US. But what the hey....let em smoke each other in the coming civil war with pictures US weapons. Kinda like giving the street corner kid some free crack.

Re: Taliban reclaims Afghanistan

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:54 pm
by Farfromgeneva
Kismet wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:06 pm
youthathletics wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:44 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:33 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:09 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:00 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:54 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:52 pm https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/th ... d=msedgntp

"until they get more our of the americans"

I guess the Taliban were taking notes when the Iranians fleeced BHO. Time to start packing gold and cold hard cash onto the C130s. It looks like Deja Vu all over again. Maybe some of the enlightened more progressive folks on this forum can explain what "getting more out of the Americans" is suppose to mean? I'm sure I know. :D
We holding some Afghan money?
Ain't that how BHO settled things with the Iranians? How many C130s will it take this time? I suppose Biden could use the Afghan money being held as a down payment for all the military hardware we gave them. What is the going rate for 45 blackhawk helicopters and say 300 thousand plus automatic rifles and goodness knows how many other armored vehicles? WE can throw all the ammo in for free. :roll: Will the Taliban demand interest on that cash? :D
Are we holding Afghan money? Some of that equipment belongs to Afghanistan. Not a political party. Whomever is in charge can use it as they see fit. To the victor goes the spoils.
"To the victor goes the spoils"

Pretty sure the US has $5-7B of Afghanistan money tied up right now.
"To the victor goes the spoils" TLD - what are you implying, that yes, we lost the war and the Taliban not only defeated the Afghanis but also defeated the US? Seems it is still our equipment if the Afghani Army is not using it.
"Possession is nine-tenths of the law" is more relevant in this case. :lol:

The old Texian war cry to the Mexican government is also relevant - "Come and Take It" :lol:
I like the second one

Re: Taliban reclaims Afghanistan

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:17 pm
by kramerica.inc
Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:54 pm
Kismet wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:06 pm
youthathletics wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:44 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:33 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:09 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:00 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:54 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:52 pm https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/th ... d=msedgntp

"until they get more our of the americans"

I guess the Taliban were taking notes when the Iranians fleeced BHO. Time to start packing gold and cold hard cash onto the C130s. It looks like Deja Vu all over again. Maybe some of the enlightened more progressive folks on this forum can explain what "getting more out of the Americans" is suppose to mean? I'm sure I know. :D
We holding some Afghan money?
Ain't that how BHO settled things with the Iranians? How many C130s will it take this time? I suppose Biden could use the Afghan money being held as a down payment for all the military hardware we gave them. What is the going rate for 45 blackhawk helicopters and say 300 thousand plus automatic rifles and goodness knows how many other armored vehicles? WE can throw all the ammo in for free. :roll: Will the Taliban demand interest on that cash? :D
Are we holding Afghan money? Some of that equipment belongs to Afghanistan. Not a political party. Whomever is in charge can use it as they see fit. To the victor goes the spoils.
"To the victor goes the spoils"

Pretty sure the US has $5-7B of Afghanistan money tied up right now.
"To the victor goes the spoils" TLD - what are you implying, that yes, we lost the war and the Taliban not only defeated the Afghanis but also defeated the US? Seems it is still our equipment if the Afghani Army is not using it.
"Possession is nine-tenths of the law" is more relevant in this case. :lol:

The old Texian war cry to the Mexican government is also relevant - "Come and Take It" :lol:
I like the second one
We have $5-$7B of their money. That goes a far way.

How much of our equipment was left behind?
How much longer would we like to evacuate?
How high would they like inflation to go?

Trade, trade, lemonade...

Re: Taliban reclaims Afghanistan

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:24 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
youthathletics wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:33 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:27 pm
youthathletics wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:44 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:33 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:09 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:00 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:54 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:52 pm https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/th ... d=msedgntp

"until they get more our of the americans"

I guess the Taliban were taking notes when the Iranians fleeced BHO. Time to start packing gold and cold hard cash onto the C130s. It looks like Deja Vu all over again. Maybe some of the enlightened more progressive folks on this forum can explain what "getting more out of the Americans" is suppose to mean? I'm sure I know. :D
We holding some Afghan money?
Ain't that how BHO settled things with the Iranians? How many C130s will it take this time? I suppose Biden could use the Afghan money being held as a down payment for all the military hardware we gave them. What is the going rate for 45 blackhawk helicopters and say 300 thousand plus automatic rifles and goodness knows how many other armored vehicles? WE can throw all the ammo in for free. :roll: Will the Taliban demand interest on that cash? :D
Are we holding Afghan money? Some of that equipment belongs to Afghanistan. Not a political party. Whomever is in charge can use it as they see fit. To the victor goes the spoils.
"To the victor goes the spoils"

Pretty sure the US has $5-7B of Afghanistan money tied up right now.
"To the victor goes the spoils" TLD - what are you implying, that yes, we lost the war and the Taliban not only defeated the Afghanis but also defeated the US? Seems it is still our equipment if the Afghani Army is not using it.
Is the country becoming Talibanistan? Send a reservation of rights letter.
That was my point, b/c the intended party failed to use it for their advantage, it in theory is defaulted back to the US. But what the hey....let em smoke each other in the coming civil war with pictures US weapons. Kinda like giving the street corner kid some free crack.

Re: Taliban reclaims Afghanistan

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:31 pm
by Farfromgeneva
kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:17 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:54 pm
Kismet wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:06 pm
youthathletics wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:44 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:33 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:09 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:00 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:54 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:52 pm https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/th ... d=msedgntp

"until they get more our of the americans"

I guess the Taliban were taking notes when the Iranians fleeced BHO. Time to start packing gold and cold hard cash onto the C130s. It looks like Deja Vu all over again. Maybe some of the enlightened more progressive folks on this forum can explain what "getting more out of the Americans" is suppose to mean? I'm sure I know. :D
We holding some Afghan money?
Ain't that how BHO settled things with the Iranians? How many C130s will it take this time? I suppose Biden could use the Afghan money being held as a down payment for all the military hardware we gave them. What is the going rate for 45 blackhawk helicopters and say 300 thousand plus automatic rifles and goodness knows how many other armored vehicles? WE can throw all the ammo in for free. :roll: Will the Taliban demand interest on that cash? :D
Are we holding Afghan money? Some of that equipment belongs to Afghanistan. Not a political party. Whomever is in charge can use it as they see fit. To the victor goes the spoils.
"To the victor goes the spoils"

Pretty sure the US has $5-7B of Afghanistan money tied up right now.
"To the victor goes the spoils" TLD - what are you implying, that yes, we lost the war and the Taliban not only defeated the Afghanis but also defeated the US? Seems it is still our equipment if the Afghani Army is not using it.
"Possession is nine-tenths of the law" is more relevant in this case. :lol:

The old Texian war cry to the Mexican government is also relevant - "Come and Take It" :lol:
I like the second one
We have $5-$7B of their money. That goes a far way.

How much of our equipment was left behind?
How much longer would we like to evacuate?
How high would they like inflation to go?

Trade, trade, lemonade...
Hope they trade like the Indians I guess...

Re: Taliban reclaims Afghanistan

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:42 pm
by kramerica.inc
cradleandshoot wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 8:57 am
old salt wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 8:01 am
jhu72 wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 6:14 am
old salt wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 4:23 am
jhu72 wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:24 pm
Brooklyn wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:32 am
old salt wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:45 pm
jhu72 wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 5:38 pm An Afghan take on why we lost. Most Afghans found the Taliban preferable.
...except for the Afghans clinging to the departing airplanes or crushed at the airport.

In a country of nearly 40 million those few who suddenly took those strange flying lessons represent a very small minority of people...
exactly
Just think again about what you are saying & who the Taliban are. They are committed to brutally imposing, by force, their radical version of Sharia law. We are forced to work with them now, in the short term, because we have no other option, to get, just some, of our fellow Americans, Afghan allies & their families, out alive.

The sugar coating & rebranding of these barbarians is nauseating. In a historical context, what we are witnessing now would be the equivalent of the Allies negotiating peace during the Battle of the Bulge, & leaving Europe, east of the Rhine, to the tender mercies of the Nazis, then helping them consolidate their control, as the Vichy French did. THAT is just a part of the reason why so many veterans are exasperated with our abandonment of the Afghan people.

By necessity, we are forced to work with the Taliban, for now. But never lose sight of who they are, what they have done, & will do again.
... I have made no comment on who the Taliban are or what they have done. My point is they are more popular in Afghanistan than the US. They can be butt holes and more popular than us in their own country.

Now if we are going to talk about people fawning over the Taliban - US far right has a curious affinity for the Taliban.
Most Afghans found the Talaban preferable. :roll:
If that were the case, the Taliban would have run in & won the national & regional elections.
"Most Afghans found the Taliban preferable". :roll:

Most Germans also found the Nazis preferable as well. How did that work out?
"Much better than American imperialist occupation!"

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/06/asia/tal ... index.html

Re: Taliban reclaims Afghanistan

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:54 pm
by cradleandshoot
Kismet wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:06 pm
youthathletics wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:44 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:33 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:09 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:00 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:54 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:52 pm https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/th ... d=msedgntp

"until they get more our of the americans"

I guess the Taliban were taking notes when the Iranians fleeced BHO. Time to start packing gold and cold hard cash onto the C130s. It looks like Deja Vu all over again. Maybe some of the enlightened more progressive folks on this forum can explain what "getting more out of the Americans" is suppose to mean? I'm sure I know. :D
We holding some Afghan money?
Ain't that how BHO settled things with the Iranians? How many C130s will it take this time? I suppose Biden could use the Afghan money being held as a down payment for all the military hardware we gave them. What is the going rate for 45 blackhawk helicopters and say 300 thousand plus automatic rifles and goodness knows how many other armored vehicles? WE can throw all the ammo in for free. :roll: Will the Taliban demand interest on that cash? :D
Are we holding Afghan money? Some of that equipment belongs to Afghanistan. Not a political party. Whomever is in charge can use it as they see fit. To the victor goes the spoils.
"To the victor goes the spoils"

Pretty sure the US has $5-7B of Afghanistan money tied up right now.
"To the victor goes the spoils" TLD - what are you implying, that yes, we lost the war and the Taliban not only defeated the Afghanis but also defeated the US? Seems it is still our equipment if the Afghani Army is not using it.
"Possession is nine-tenths of the law" is more relevant in this case. :lol:

The old Texian war cry to the Mexican government is also relevant - "Come and Take It" :lol:
With the right amount of strategic bombing the Thaaaaallllybhaaaaaaan would be in possession of a very pricy pile of junk. Doing that would set the hair on fire of every FLP liberal on this forum.

Re: Taliban reclaims Afghanistan

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:08 pm
by cradleandshoot
kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:42 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 8:57 am
old salt wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 8:01 am
jhu72 wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 6:14 am
old salt wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 4:23 am
jhu72 wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:24 pm
Brooklyn wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:32 am
old salt wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:45 pm
jhu72 wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 5:38 pm An Afghan take on why we lost. Most Afghans found the Taliban preferable.
...except for the Afghans clinging to the departing airplanes or crushed at the airport.

In a country of nearly 40 million those few who suddenly took those strange flying lessons represent a very small minority of people...
exactly
Just think again about what you are saying & who the Taliban are. They are committed to brutally imposing, by force, their radical version of Sharia law. We are forced to work with them now, in the short term, because we have no other option, to get, just some, of our fellow Americans, Afghan allies & their families, out alive.

The sugar coating & rebranding of these barbarians is nauseating. In a historical context, what we are witnessing now would be the equivalent of the Allies negotiating peace during the Battle of the Bulge, & leaving Europe, east of the Rhine, to the tender mercies of the Nazis, then helping them consolidate their control, as the Vichy French did. THAT is just a part of the reason why so many veterans are exasperated with our abandonment of the Afghan people.

By necessity, we are forced to work with the Taliban, for now. But never lose sight of who they are, what they have done, & will do again.
... I have made no comment on who the Taliban are or what they have done. My point is they are more popular in Afghanistan than the US. They can be butt holes and more popular than us in their own country.

Now if we are going to talk about people fawning over the Taliban - US far right has a curious affinity for the Taliban.
Most Afghans found the Talaban preferable. :roll:
If that were the case, the Taliban would have run in & won the national & regional elections.
"Most Afghans found the Taliban preferable". :roll:

Most Germans also found the Nazis preferable as well. How did that work out?
"Much better than American imperialist occupation!"

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/06/asia/tal ... index.html
Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't recall our soldiers murdering any pregnant women.

Re: Taliban reclaims Afghanistan

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:36 pm
by cradleandshoot
I don't have a valid link but allegedly the US State Dept is preventing rescue flights out of Afghanistan. If true how is that possible and will Bidens people admit to doing it? Biden started out with a good idea and his administration has gone out of its way to turn the operation to full tilt FUBAR. Did Biden listen to anybody giving him advice? Was there ever a plan? How could any plan have included abandoning Bagram AFB before all our friends and American citizens were evacuated? My personal 64 thousand dollar question.. who was the dumb f**k in Bidentown that made that call? Will whoever the dumbf**k that made the decision be held accountable? Will we ever know who the idiot was that authorized abandoning such a vital strategic position knowing it would soon be needed. Maybe Jen Sake can clear it up for America? If there is some brave reporter willing to face her wrath.

Re: Taliban reclaims Afghanistan

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:57 pm
by Kismet
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:36 pm I don't have a valid link but allegedly the US State Dept is preventing rescue flights out of Afghanistan. If true how is that possible and will Bidens people admit to doing it? Biden started out with a good idea and his administration has gone out of its way to turn the operation to full tilt FUBAR. Did Biden listen to anybody giving him advice? Was there ever a plan? How could any plan have included abandoning Bagram AFB before all our friends and American citizens were evacuated? My personal 64 thousand dollar question.. who was the dumb f**k in Bidentown that made that call? Will whoever the dumbf**k that made the decision be held accountable? Will we ever know who the idiot was that authorized abandoning such a vital strategic position knowing it would soon be needed. Maybe Jen Sake can clear it up for America? If there is some brave reporter willing to face her wrath.
Maybe the reason you cannot provide a credible link is because the story is fantasy. :oops: Some gullible people will believe anything that supports their preconceived views. :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

Re: Taliban reclaims Afghanistan

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 3:04 pm
by Farfromgeneva
Kismet wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:57 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:36 pm I don't have a valid link but allegedly the US State Dept is preventing rescue flights out of Afghanistan. If true how is that possible and will Bidens people admit to doing it? Biden started out with a good idea and his administration has gone out of its way to turn the operation to full tilt FUBAR. Did Biden listen to anybody giving him advice? Was there ever a plan? How could any plan have included abandoning Bagram AFB before all our friends and American citizens were evacuated? My personal 64 thousand dollar question.. who was the dumb f**k in Bidentown that made that call? Will whoever the dumbf**k that made the decision be held accountable? Will we ever know who the idiot was that authorized abandoning such a vital strategic position knowing it would soon be needed. Maybe Jen Sake can clear it up for America? If there is some brave reporter willing to face her wrath.
Maybe the reason you cannot provide a credible link is because the story is fantasy. :oops: Some gullible people will believe anything that supports their preconceived views. :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
We already know there’s a ton of suckers out there.

Report: Trump disparaged US war dead as ‘losers,’ ‘suckers’
By James LaPorta, The Associated Press
Sep 3, 2020

DELRAY BEACH, FLa. — A new report details multiple instances of President Donald Trump making disparaging remarks about members of the U.S. military who have been captured or killed, including referring to the American war dead at the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery in France in 2018 as “losers” and “suckers.”
Trump said Thursday that the story is “totally false.”

The allegations were first reported in The Atlantic. A senior Defense Department official with firsthand knowledge of events and a senior U.S. Marine Corps officer who was told about Trump’s comments confirmed some of the remarks to The Associated Press, including the 2018 cemetery comments.
The defense officials said Trump made the comments as he begged off visiting the cemetery outside Paris during a meeting following his presidential daily briefing on the morning of Nov. 10, 2018.
Staffers from the National Security Council and the Secret Service told Trump that rainy weather made helicopter travel to the cemetery risky, but they could drive there. Trump responded by saying he didn’t want to visit the cemetery because it was “filled with losers,” the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because the official was not authorized to discuss it publicly.

The White House blamed the canceled visit on poor weather at the time.

Re: Taliban reclaims Afghanistan

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 3:17 pm
by cradleandshoot
Kismet wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:57 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:36 pm I don't have a valid link but allegedly the US State Dept is preventing rescue flights out of Afghanistan. If true how is that possible and will Bidens people admit to doing it? Biden started out with a good idea and his administration has gone out of its way to turn the operation to full tilt FUBAR. Did Biden listen to anybody giving him advice? Was there ever a plan? How could any plan have included abandoning Bagram AFB before all our friends and American citizens were evacuated? My personal 64 thousand dollar question.. who was the dumb f**k in Bidentown that made that call? Will whoever the dumbf**k that made the decision be held accountable? Will we ever know who the idiot was that authorized abandoning such a vital strategic position knowing it would soon be needed. Maybe Jen Sake can clear it up for America? If there is some brave reporter willing to face her wrath.
Maybe the reason you cannot provide a credible link is because the story is fantasy. :oops: Some gullible people will believe anything that supports their preconceived views. :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
To paraphrase Billy Joel.. you may be right but I just think your crazy. It would not have mattered if I posted a link. Your a liberal who would not have believed a link posted by me anyways. Why do you think I didn't waste my time looking for it dumbass? :lol:

Re: Taliban reclaims Afghanistan

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 3:22 pm
by Farfromgeneva
And every reason why no one would ever take you seriously around here.

“I called someone I disagree a dumbass! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! I’m so awesome!”