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Lax247 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:31 am

DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:17 am They all play tough, it's highly competitive D1 lax played by well conditioned, talented athletes who are trying to win a game. It's always the other team who doesn't play clean lacrosse.

So you are saying all teams play the same and no teams play aggressive borderline dirty lacrosse ? Obv you never watched florida play ?

Am not saying that at all. Lot of different styles of play out there, lot of aggressive teams, lot of very tough Ds out there.
Borderline dirty to you might just be very tough and tenacious to another...including the refs. I don't think any team is coached to play dirty. Yes, I've watched Florida play. Cuse too and they've been accused of playing dirty but they don't.

DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:54 am Cuse too and they've been accused of playing dirty but they don't.

They totally play dirty sometimes. I’ve seen enough incidents over the years to come to that conclusion. I don’t know if Treanor will allow that style to continue now that she’s in charge, but before her the team was typically rough and chippy, and on occasion, yes, dirty.

OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:02 am

DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:54 am Cuse too and they've been accused of playing dirty but they don't.

They totally play dirty sometimes. I’ve seen enough incidents over the years to come to that conclusion. I don’t know if Treanor will allow that style to continue now that she’s in charge, but before her the team was typically rough and chippy, and on occasion, yes, dirty.

Totally agree, and it came back to haunt Syracuse in their last game they played last year. What was it, four yellow cards in the first half?. Kind of hard to recover from that when you’re playing a woman down for that much time.

Justalaxdad wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:11 am

OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:02 am

DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:54 am Cuse too and they've been accused of playing dirty but they don't.

They totally play dirty sometimes. I’ve seen enough incidents over the years to come to that conclusion. I don’t know if Treanor will allow that style to continue now that she’s in charge, but before her the team was typically rough and chippy, and on occasion, yes, dirty.

Totally agree, and it came back to haunt Syracuse in their last game they played last year. What was it, four yellow cards in the first half?. Kind of hard to recover from that when you’re playing a woman down for that much time.

Well remembered and well stated. 3 yellows in the first and yellows and greens in the 2nd. In addition to the knee Meaghan Tyrrell gave Belle Smith in the first half that went undetected by the refs.

Yup, they play dirty, don't care about the rules and play with bad intentions.

OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:14 am

Justalaxdad wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:11 am

OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:02 am

DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:54 am Cuse too and they've been accused of playing dirty but they don't.

They totally play dirty sometimes. I’ve seen enough incidents over the years to come to that conclusion. I don’t know if Treanor will allow that style to continue now that she’s in charge, but before her the team was typically rough and chippy, and on occasion, yes, dirty.

Totally agree, and it came back to haunt Syracuse in their last game they played last year. What was it, four yellow cards in the first half?. Kind of hard to recover from that when you’re playing a woman down for that much time.

Well remembered and well stated. 3 yellows in the first and yellows and greens in the 2nd. In addition to the knee Meaghan Tyrrell gave Belle Smith in the first half that went undetected by the refs.

Start watching about 15 seconds in. Meaghan deliberately slowed her pace to have her knee right where Smith was falling. That’s dirty all day every day in my book.

Ah, your favorite, slo mo freeze frame in the heat of the battle.
Here, watch this one in real time and watch these dirty girls play.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDXTtJflTOI&t=5766s

DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:50 am

Lax247 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:28 am

DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:14 am What's not clean about their game?
If they're not playing clean, they're playing dirty?

Yes! Was speaking with a parent from team that played them in fall very dirty.

Guess that makes 'em dirty then.
Coach teaching them to play dirty?
Dirty to you, tough to another?

Parent said a lot of swinging of sticks, pushing in backs after shots, pushing envelop on every play. Idk to me that’s not clean play .

DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:38 am Ah, your favorite, slo mo freeze frame in the heat of the battle.
Here, watch this one in real time and watch these dirty girls play.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDXTtJflTOI&t=5766s

Did M. Tyrrell intentionally knee Smith or not? Showing the replay from multiple angles and slowing it down is a common practice amongst all sports broadcasting.

Lax247 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:40 am

DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:50 am

Lax247 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:28 am

DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:14 am What's not clean about their game?
If they're not playing clean, they're playing dirty?

Yes! Was speaking with a parent from team that played them in fall very dirty.

Guess that makes 'em dirty then.
Coach teaching them to play dirty?
Dirty to you, tough to another?

Parent said a lot of swinging of sticks, pushing in backs after shots, pushing envelop on every play. Idk to me that’s not clean play .

Parent says so that makes it so.

OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:42 am

DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:38 am Ah, your favorite, slo mo freeze frame in the heat of the battle.
Here, watch this one in real time and watch these dirty girls play.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDXTtJflTOI&t=5766s

Did M. Tyrrell intentionally knee Smith or not? Showing the replay from multiple angles and slowing it down is a common practice amongst all sports broadcasting.

Nope, I don't think she intentionally kneed her. That was just her next step and she got herself in too deep and couldn't back off. You can make it look intentional in freeze frame and yes, that's what critics do. I don't believe for one second she's a dirty player.

DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:00 pm

OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:42 am

DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:38 am Ah, your favorite, slo mo freeze frame in the heat of the battle.
Here, watch this one in real time and watch these dirty girls play.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDXTtJflTOI&t=5766s

Did M. Tyrrell intentionally knee Smith or not? Showing the replay from multiple angles and slowing it down is a common practice amongst all sports broadcasting.

Nope, I don't think she intentionally kneed her. That was just her next step and she got herself in too deep and couldn't back off. You can make it look intentional in freeze frame and yes, that's what critics do. I don't believe for one second she's a dirty player.

I don’t think she’s a dirty player either, but that was a dirty play.

Lax247 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:40 am

DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:50 am

Lax247 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:28 am

DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:14 am What's not clean about their game?
If they're not playing clean, they're playing dirty?

Yes! Was speaking with a parent from team that played them in fall very dirty.

Guess that makes 'em dirty then.
Coach teaching them to play dirty?
Dirty to you, tough to another?

Parent said a lot of swinging of sticks, pushing in backs after shots, pushing envelop on every play. Idk to me that’s not clean play .

Have you seen fall ball before? games are called much looser than during regular season and is also is training for new refs. It's not at all indicative of dirty play.

DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:55 am

Lax247 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:40 am

DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:50 am

Lax247 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:28 am

DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:14 am What's not clean about their game?
If they're not playing clean, they're playing dirty?

Yes! Was speaking with a parent from team that played them in fall very dirty.

Guess that makes 'em dirty then.
Coach teaching them to play dirty?
Dirty to you, tough to another?

Parent said a lot of swinging of sticks, pushing in backs after shots, pushing envelop on every play. Idk to me that’s not clean play .

Parent says so that makes it so.

I think parents are a good source. After all, don’t their daughters give them feedback after the game?

OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:14 am

Justalaxdad wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:11 am

OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:02 am

DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:54 am Cuse too and they've been accused of playing dirty but they don't.

They totally play dirty sometimes. I’ve seen enough incidents over the years to come to that conclusion. I don’t know if Treanor will allow that style to continue now that she’s in charge, but before her the team was typically rough and chippy, and on occasion, yes, dirty.

Totally agree, and it came back to haunt Syracuse in their last game they played last year. What was it, four yellow cards in the first half?. Kind of hard to recover from that when you’re playing a woman down for that much time.

Well remembered and well stated. 3 yellows in the first and yellows and greens in the 2nd. In addition to the knee Meaghan Tyrrell gave Belle Smith in the first half that went undetected by the refs.

Might want to look up what a green card is issued for, otherwise some may assume that you know nothing about lacrosse

OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:10 pm

DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:55 am

Lax247 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:40 am

DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:50 am

Lax247 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:28 am

DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:14 am What's not clean about their game?
If they're not playing clean, they're playing dirty?

Yes! Was speaking with a parent from team that played them in fall very dirty.

Guess that makes 'em dirty then.
Coach teaching them to play dirty?
Dirty to you, tough to another?

Parent said a lot of swinging of sticks, pushing in backs after shots, pushing envelop on every play. Idk to me that’s not clean play .

Parent says so that makes it so.

I think parents are a good source. After all, don’t their daughters give them feedback after the game?

Yeah, they sure do. "That girl was playing dirty, that's why I didn't score, Dad." Completely reliable.
Then Dad tells everyone they were playing dirty against his little girl.

OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:08 pm

DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:00 pm

OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:42 am

DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:38 am Ah, your favorite, slo mo freeze frame in the heat of the battle.
Here, watch this one in real time and watch these dirty girls play.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDXTtJflTOI&t=5766s

Did M. Tyrrell intentionally knee Smith or not? Showing the replay from multiple angles and slowing it down is a common practice amongst all sports broadcasting.

Nope, I don't think she intentionally kneed her. That was just her next step and she got herself in too deep and couldn't back off. You can make it look intentional in freeze frame and yes, that's what critics do. I don't believe for one second she's a dirty player.

I don’t think she’s a dirty player either, but that was a dirty play.

Intentionally dirty play in your eyes, not in mine. I see a girl who was trying to make up for being stripped of the ball and tried a little too hard, nothing more.

OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:10 pm

DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:55 am

Lax247 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:40 am

DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:50 am

Lax247 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:28 am

DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:14 am What's not clean about their game?
If they're not playing clean, they're playing dirty?

Yes! Was speaking with a parent from team that played them in fall very dirty.

Guess that makes 'em dirty then.
Coach teaching them to play dirty?
Dirty to you, tough to another?

Parent said a lot of swinging of sticks, pushing in backs after shots, pushing envelop on every play. Idk to me that’s not clean play .

Parent says so that makes it so.

I think parents are a good source. After all, don’t their daughters give them feedback after the game?

HAHAHAHA....parents are an absolutely awful source. They see things through rose colored glasses through the specter of how it plays out for their own kids and kids team. I would say that, me included, in games their child is in parents have little objectivity.

8meterPA wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:12 pm

OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:14 am

Justalaxdad wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:11 am

OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:02 am

DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:54 am Cuse too and they've been accused of playing dirty but they don't.

They totally play dirty sometimes. I’ve seen enough incidents over the years to come to that conclusion. I don’t know if Treanor will allow that style to continue now that she’s in charge, but before her the team was typically rough and chippy, and on occasion, yes, dirty.

Totally agree, and it came back to haunt Syracuse in their last game they played last year. What was it, four yellow cards in the first half?. Kind of hard to recover from that when you’re playing a woman down for that much time.

Well remembered and well stated. 3 yellows in the first and yellows and greens in the 2nd. In addition to the knee Meaghan Tyrrell gave Belle Smith in the first half that went undetected by the refs.

Might want to look up what a green card is issued for, otherwise some may assume that you know nothing about lacrosse

Justalaxdad also wrote this:

“Kind of hard to recover from that when you’re playing a woman down for that much time.”

...which is also part of what I was responding to. Green cards mean you play “woman down” for 1 minute and Syracuse got 2 of those in the 2nd half if memory serves.

I acknowledge that I don’t have the time or experience with the game that you and most others on here have.

Bart wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:18 pm

OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:10 pm

DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:55 am

Lax247 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:40 am

DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:50 am

Lax247 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:28 am

DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:14 am What's not clean about their game?
If they're not playing clean, they're playing dirty?

Yes! Was speaking with a parent from team that played them in fall very dirty.

Guess that makes 'em dirty then.
Coach teaching them to play dirty?
Dirty to you, tough to another?

Parent said a lot of swinging of sticks, pushing in backs after shots, pushing envelop on every play. Idk to me that’s not clean play .

Parent says so that makes it so.

I think parents are a good source. After all, don’t their daughters give them feedback after the game?

HAHAHAHA....parents are an absolutely awful source. They see things through rose colored glasses through the specter of how it plays out for their own kids and kids team. I would say that, me included, in games their child is in parents have little objectivity.

I think the brush stroke is a little too broad on this statement. I give parents a little more credit than that.