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molo wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 4:51 pm I did name one player from the school I went to as an undergrad. Since a Hopkins fan had already named his choices by position, I did the same and then added a position. Those of us who were not STEM majors can become at times a little disobedient or creative, depending upon your perspective.
+100How about “non-linear”?molo wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 4:51 pm I did name one player from the school I went to as an undergrad. Since a Hopkins fan had already named his choices by position, I did the same and then added a position. Those of us who were not STEM majors can become at times a little disobedient or creative, depending upon your perspective.
Johns Hopkins lacrosse fans always get special waivers and exemptions.xxxxxxx wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 4:06 pmHopkins guys clearly didn't understand the assignment, several of you list by position. I'll try to clarify for the ones who obviously only got in for their lacrosse skill and majored in Poly Sci. Who is the "best player in your schools history"? It's a one name answermolo wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 4:09 pm Since I’ve seen Hopkins play more than any other team, I’ll take a stab at their best players at each position. I am considering only players that I have seen. No disrespect to the elder statesman, but I’m confining my picks to those who played in the time period during which I’ve followed college lax, basically from 1960 until now.
GOALIE
Larry Quinn. My bias against sitting underclassmen is reflected in my choice of this two year stater.
DEFENSE
Dave Piertromala. There have been many excellent Hopkins defensemen, but the big lefty, who could bump up to pole if needed, is the best American defenseman I’ve ever seen.
MIDFIELD
Paul Rabil. The four time AA, three times first team, was primarily an o middie who took his share of wings.
My second choice, Kyle Harrison, was superb but Rabil was the team’s best player for three years.
ATTACK
Jack Thomas, whom I didn’t see as much as my second pick, Mike O’Neil, because I lived in Charlottesville for part of his career at Hopkins.
LSM
Steve Mitchell. I wasn’t going to add special positions, but Steve effectively created the position. Before him, most teams used their fourth and fifth defensemen at pole. Mitchell, with his gb play off face-off wings, his creativity in transition, and his ability to cover the opponent’s best middie, set the standard for the position.
Somebody has to play right field.DocBarrister wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:41 pmJohns Hopkins lacrosse fans always get special waivers and exemptions.xxxxxxx wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 4:06 pmHopkins guys clearly didn't understand the assignment, several of you list by position. I'll try to clarify for the ones who obviously only got in for their lacrosse skill and majored in Poly Sci. Who is the "best player in your schools history"? It's a one name answermolo wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 4:09 pm Since I’ve seen Hopkins play more than any other team, I’ll take a stab at their best players at each position. I am considering only players that I have seen. No disrespect to the elder statesman, but I’m confining my picks to those who played in the time period during which I’ve followed college lax, basically from 1960 until now.
GOALIE
Larry Quinn. My bias against sitting underclassmen is reflected in my choice of this two year stater.
DEFENSE
Dave Piertromala. There have been many excellent Hopkins defensemen, but the big lefty, who could bump up to pole if needed, is the best American defenseman I’ve ever seen.
MIDFIELD
Paul Rabil. The four time AA, three times first team, was primarily an o middie who took his share of wings.
My second choice, Kyle Harrison, was superb but Rabil was the team’s best player for three years.
ATTACK
Jack Thomas, whom I didn’t see as much as my second pick, Mike O’Neil, because I lived in Charlottesville for part of his career at Hopkins.
LSM
Steve Mitchell. I wasn’t going to add special positions, but Steve effectively created the position. Before him, most teams used their fourth and fifth defensemen at pole. Mitchell, with his gb play off face-off wings, his creativity in transition, and his ability to cover the opponent’s best middie, set the standard for the position.
Don’t ask or question why … it is simply a divine and noble right.
DocBarrister
the gaits were not the 1st canadien players to play nc$$ lacrosse.Bigdawg69 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 12:22 pmThe part about the gaits in the documentary was unreal. How Roy jr did that favor for the youth Canadian coach about 6 years prior. Then gets a call in 1986 about these 2 Canadian twins 6’2 200 could move like deer. Totally changed the game and the first to bring canadien players to the states for field laxJeremyCuse wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:16 am Interesting question for sure.
For Syracuse your likely to get multiple different answers.
I assume the top two are Gary Gait and Mike Powell with some outside votes for Jim Brown (for those who were lucky enough to see him play).
Tough call you could argue Gait or Powell and I think both would be correct.
Grant Jr was a game changer, one of the more transformative players in NCAA lacrosse history. There are any number of players whose style of play was adapted from Grant Jr’s.
Don't know how I missed this series but I did. This is incredibly well done, Part 3 is the Gait era and it accurately describes what Paul and Gary did for not only Syracuse lacrosse but for lacrosse in general, they did change the game. Attendance numbers pre Gait and Gait era is pretty incredible. Thirty-three years later there has got to be plenty of people here who never saw them play or felt the electricity they brought to the Dome as well as other stadiums. As one who never missed a home game (not an exaggeration) and went to plenty of away games too (including their loss to Hop in '89) I don't think there's any question that Gary was the best to ever play at Cuse. Would he have been without Paul there too? Probably, but they brought the best out of each other....then Tommy showed up.Bigdawg69 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 8:08 pm It’s the off-season. Watched the chronicles of Syracuse documentary on YouTube and got me curious as to who everyone thinks is the GOAT to come through their school? Great video btw if anyone who hasn’t checked it out yet.
https://youtu.be/EeuxFzSNagE
Here’s part 1
Cowan was a great athlete. Drafted by the Colts but Tamulivich fid not shut him down. The week before tge Navy game Cowan was injured by a sub Dmen from Syracuse who slashed him across the knee. The play resulted in Scottie dropping Syracuse. The next week Cowan played with his leg wrapped from thigh to ankle. He was barely mobile and used as a decoy. The Baltimore Sun has a great photo of Cowan in the game with his leg wrapped and barely mobile. i suggest that is not really shutting anyone down. Tamulivich was an AA and HOFer
OCanada wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 12:12 pmCowan was a great athlete. Drafted by the Colts. Tamulivich did not shut him down. The week before the Navy game Cowan was injured by a sub Dman from Syracuse who slashed him across the thigh/knee. The play resulted in Scottie dropping Syracuse.l from the schedule when the contract expired. The next week Cowan played with his leg wrapped from thigh to ankle. He was barely mobile and used as a decoy. The Baltimore Sun has a great photo of Cowan in the game with his leg wrapped. i suggest that is not really shutting anyone down. Tamulivich was an AA and HOFer
The well known photo of Tamulevich and Cowan is in this IL article,OCanada wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 12:12 pmCowan was a great athlete. Drafted by the Colts but Tamulivich fid not shut him down. The week before tge Navy game Cowan was injured by a sub Dmen from Syracuse who slashed him across the knee. The play resulted in Scottie dropping Syracuse. The next week Cowan played with his leg wrapped from thigh to ankle. He was barely mobile and used as a decoy. The Baltimore Sun has a great photo of Cowan in the game with his leg wrapped and barely mobile. i suggest that is not really shutting anyone down. Tamulivich was an AA and HOFer
Lowe was excellent, but I think I'd have to go with Malloy for players I have seen. Cliff Stevenson was always partial to Tom Draper, using him as an example of what we should become as players.bearlaxfan wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 1:26 pm Brown's Darren Lowe & Dylan Molloy have the most props. I never saw Lowe play. There are also some guys besides Lowe from the Starsia years. Any nominees? Or from Stevenson's years as coach?
Andy T is my pickDALaxDad wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 1:44 pmLowe was excellent, but I think I'd have to go with Malloy for players I have seen. Cliff Stevenson was always partial to Tom Draper, using him as an example of what we should become as players.bearlaxfan wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 1:26 pm Brown's Darren Lowe & Dylan Molloy have the most props. I never saw Lowe play. There are also some guys besides Lowe from the Starsia years. Any nominees? Or from Stevenson's years as coach?
Cowan was originally class of 68 but had a back injury needing attention his freshman year. He played 67-69. Three years was max before freshmen were allowed to play. Hopkins lost its game after Navy to MD. Injury adversely his ability to play at his best level10stone5 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 12:59 pmThe well known photo of Tamulevich and Cowan is in this IL article,OCanada wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 12:12 pmCowan was a great athlete. Drafted by the Colts but Tamulivich fid not shut him down. The week before tge Navy game Cowan was injured by a sub Dmen from Syracuse who slashed him across the knee. The play resulted in Scottie dropping Syracuse. The next week Cowan played with his leg wrapped from thigh to ankle. He was barely mobile and used as a decoy. The Baltimore Sun has a great photo of Cowan in the game with his leg wrapped and barely mobile. i suggest that is not really shutting anyone down. Tamulivich was an AA and HOFer
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... gend/17046
That photo was posted on LaxPower and there was a debate, which year, was Cowan 100%, etc.
Tamulevich‘s son joined in on LaxPower and was able to confirm some details, turned out he had the original framed and on his desk, he sent us a photo of it,
unfortunately Carl Tamulevich passed away not too long ago.
From SI’s archive.article after the Navy gameOCanada wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 4:23 pmCowan was originally class of 68 but had a back injury needing attention his freshman year. He played 67-69. Three years was max before freshmen were allowed to play. Hopkins lost its game after Navy to MD. Injury adversely his ability to play at his best level10stone5 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 12:59 pmThe well known photo of Tamulevich and Cowan is in this IL article,OCanada wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 12:12 pmCowan was a great athlete. Drafted by the Colts but Tamulivich fid not shut him down. The week before tge Navy game Cowan was injured by a sub Dmen from Syracuse who slashed him across the knee. The play resulted in Scottie dropping Syracuse. The next week Cowan played with his leg wrapped from thigh to ankle. He was barely mobile and used as a decoy. The Baltimore Sun has a great photo of Cowan in the game with his leg wrapped and barely mobile. i suggest that is not really shutting anyone down. Tamulivich was an AA and HOFer
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... gend/17046
That photo was posted on LaxPower and there was a debate, which year, was Cowan 100%, etc.
Tamulevich‘s son joined in on LaxPower and was able to confirm some details, turned out he had the original framed and on his desk, he sent us a photo of it,
unfortunately Carl Tamulevich passed away not too long ago.