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fcalax wrote:Really......who you got on Defense?

Jacob Snyder '19 OSU
Parker Byrd '19 UNC
Ryan Kilcoyne '20 St. Joes

This accurate?

Matnum PI wrote:

Cooter wrote:Z.Green was one of those early recruits, who was well-thought of early on and looked like he might be a top guy as a sophomore, but then seemed to get stuck on the 2nd midfield as a senior behind some talented players at Calvert Hall.

I was looking at CHC's 2019 roster and they literally have a D1 player at every starting spot as well as on the 2nd Middy line. That's pretty ridiculous...

Green's particular problem was that he was a lefty attackman, and both Kellys were lefty attackmen. Next, Green wasn't real big while the Mitchells and Herbert are good-sized midfielders. This sort of worked in Jack Sawyer's favor, as he was a right-hander, and thus toward the end of the season got the start on attack

According to MD Twitter

Logan Wisnauskas & Bubba Fairman had the most combined goals (61) by a freshman duo in Maryland history last season.

Just one more reason to rank them in the top three preseason.

AreaLax wrote:According to MD Twitter

Logan Wisnauskas & Bubba Fairman had the most combined goals (61) by a freshman duo in Maryland history last season.

I was discussing over on the Syracusefan forum, how if the Terps choose to put Fairman on attack it would probably give the Terps the top attack in D1.

Would not be surprised to see Fairman on the field the whole game like Kelly last year.

AreaLax wrote:Would not be surprised to see Fairman on the field the whole game like Kelly last year.

I wouldn't be surprised either.

Green is not left handed, his biggest problem was his last name wasn't Kelly!

Classic example of the risks of early recruiting / commitments ...

Cooter wrote:

Big Easy Lax wrote:Zach Green, a 2019 recruit from Calvert Hall also not on roster either

along with Evan Malgier (NJ, LSM).

Z.Green was one of those early recruits, who was well-thought of early on and looked like he might be a top guy as a sophomore, but then seemed to get stuck on the 2nd midfield as a senior behind some talented players at Calvert Hall.

Green is not left handed ...

Big Easy Lax wrote:Green is not left handed, his biggest problem was his last name wasn't Kelly!

Classic example of the risks of early recruiting / commitments ...

You are right. I looked at some old video on youtube, Green looks like a righty. Both Jacob and Daniel Kelly are lefties, so they shouldn't have kept Green off the field.

There we go again. Maryland is ranked #3 overall, but isn't in Inside Lacrosse's top 5 attacks, midfields, speciallists or defenses. Does that figure? Uh, no.

Cooter wrote:There we go again. Maryland is ranked #3 overall, but isn't in Inside Lacrosse's top 5 attacks, midfields, speciallists or defenses. Does that figure? Uh, no.

Must be #6 in all of those categories.

Cooter wrote:There we go again. Maryland is ranked #3 overall, but isn't in Inside Lacrosse's top 5 attacks, midfields, speciallists or defenses. Does that figure? Uh, no.

I think one of Maryland's strengths has been how few weaknesses they have. But, you're right, this is not good content from IL. It's a list that they spent little time on and everyone loves crappy lists.

ohmilax34 wrote:

Cooter wrote:There we go again. Maryland is ranked #3 overall, but isn't in Inside Lacrosse's top 5 attacks, midfields, speciallists or defenses. Does that figure? Uh, no.

I think one of Maryland's strengths has been how few weaknesses they have. But, you're right, this is not good content from IL. It's a list that they spent little time on and everyone loves crappy lists.

The thing that gets me is IL always seems so negative towards the Terps. Making these lists involves optimism towards players improving or doing well.Like for example, (according to IL) Epstein will be an impact freshman attackman and give Hopkins the top attack group, while Makar will probably just sit on the bench for the Terps' defense. Bernhardt and Wisnauskus did as good as they possibly could last season, even though one was a sophomore and the other a freshman - no possible improvement there - and the Terps couldn't possibly find a talented 3rd guy even if the move Fairman to attack. Then there is Justin Shockey, who missed fall ball last season, but put up nice numbers at FOs and the Terps have Henningsen as a #2 punch.

It might just be bad lists as you say. I can't see leaving OSU off the specialists list with preseason AAs Inacio (FO) and Terefenko (ssdm). They also have Borges return as one of their LSMs.

Cooter wrote:

ohmilax34 wrote:

Cooter wrote:There we go again. Maryland is ranked #3 overall, but isn't in Inside Lacrosse's top 5 attacks, midfields, speciallists or defenses. Does that figure? Uh, no.

I think one of Maryland's strengths has been how few weaknesses they have. But, you're right, this is not good content from IL. It's a list that they spent little time on and everyone loves crappy lists.

The thing that gets me is IL always seems so negative towards the Terps. Making these lists involves optimism towards players improving or doing well.Like for example, (according to IL) Epstein will be an impact freshman attackman and give Hopkins the top attack group, while Makar will probably just sit on the bench for the Terps' defense. Bernhardt and Wisnauskus did as good as they possibly could last season, even though one was a sophomore and the other a freshman - no possible improvement there - and the Terps couldn't possibly find a talented 3rd guy even if the move Fairman to attack. Then there is Justin Shockey, who missed fall ball last season, but put up nice numbers at FOs and the Terps have Henningsen as a #2 punch.

It might just be bad lists as you say. I can't see leaving OSU off the specialists list with preseason AAs Inacio (FO) and Terefenko (ssdm). They also have Borges return as one of their LSMs.

I don't think it's because IL is "negative" toward the Terps. I think it's just because IL has no idea what it's doing in general. Not including Duke's midfield is a mindboggling oversight. Plenty other examples similar to that. Where's Towson on the best specialists list? (Is having the best SSDM in the country and a top 3 or 4 FOGO in Woodall not good enough? Also why are LSMs and SSDMs grouped with the specialists instead of with the defense?) Also, for what it's worth, the IL writer of all these unit ranking posts is a recent Maryland grad. So I don't think it's a case of bias.

HopFan16 wrote: Also, for what it's worth, the IL writer of all these unit ranking posts is a recent Maryland grad. So I don't think it's a case of bias.

Lots of people graduate from UMd. Some aren't big UMd fans, while others can be over critical of UMd's teams.

I remember there was a Hopkins' poster who was over critical of Hopkins back on the laxpower forum, who you didn't appreciate.

Cooter wrote:

HopFan16 wrote: Also, for what it's worth, the IL writer of all these unit ranking posts is a recent Maryland grad. So I don't think it's a case of bias.

Lots of people graduate from UMd. Some aren't big UMd fans, while others can be over critical of UMd's teams.

I remember there was a Hopkins' poster who was over critical of Hopkins back on the laxpower forum, who you didn't appreciate.

Anybody who has followed Aburn's writing or social media over the years knows he is not overly critical of Maryland teams. He voted for Roman Puglise on his AA ballot: https://twitter.com/Dan_Aburn/status/10 ... 0088532992

Maryland has received plenty of fawning coverage at IL over the years. The issue is that they just aren't very consistent and frequently make head-scratching editorial decisions. If you ask me, being the only major lax media outlet in town has made them pretty lazy. Their stories are riddled with typos. I wouldn't take any rankings they make too seriously.

HopFan16 wrote:

Cooter wrote:

HopFan16 wrote: Also, for what it's worth, the IL writer of all these unit ranking posts is a recent Maryland grad. So I don't think it's a case of bias.

Lots of people graduate from UMd. Some aren't big UMd fans, while others can be over critical of UMd's teams.

I remember there was a Hopkins' poster who was over critical of Hopkins back on the laxpower forum, who you didn't appreciate.

Anybody who has followed Aburn's writing or social media over the years knows he is not overly critical of Maryland teams. He voted for Roman Puglise on his AA ballot: https://twitter.com/Dan_Aburn/status/10 ... 0088532992

Maryland has received plenty of fawning coverage at IL over the years. The issue is that they just aren't very consistent and frequently make head-scratching editorial decisions. If you ask me, being the only major lax media outlet in town has made them pretty lazy. Their stories are riddled with typos. I wouldn't take any rankings they make too seriously.

But he doesn't have Curtis Corley on the team on defense, so that sort of breaks even in my book. 3 Terps in 39 players. (Only one Hopkins guy, Foley - and he is giving Hopkins the top attack. confused2 )

Puglise does seem to be developing into one of the better ssdms. I was making up a preseason All-Big ten team, a few weeks back, and I had Puglise as the 2nd team ssdm.

What about QK?
Except against Maryland, he seems to try to be fair and not such a Hopkins homer. Also, having been a top goalie and on championship teams, he often displays sort of a condescending attitude towards Hopkins' current team.

Cooter wrote:

HopFan16 wrote:

Cooter wrote:

HopFan16 wrote: Also, for what it's worth, the IL writer of all these unit ranking posts is a recent Maryland grad. So I don't think it's a case of bias.

Lots of people graduate from UMd. Some aren't big UMd fans, while others can be over critical of UMd's teams.

I remember there was a Hopkins' poster who was over critical of Hopkins back on the laxpower forum, who you didn't appreciate.

Anybody who has followed Aburn's writing or social media over the years knows he is not overly critical of Maryland teams. He voted for Roman Puglise on his AA ballot: https://twitter.com/Dan_Aburn/status/10 ... 0088532992

Maryland has received plenty of fawning coverage at IL over the years. The issue is that they just aren't very consistent and frequently make head-scratching editorial decisions. If you ask me, being the only major lax media outlet in town has made them pretty lazy. Their stories are riddled with typos. I wouldn't take any rankings they make too seriously.

But he doesn't have Curtis Corley on the team on defense, so that sort of breaks even in my book. 3 Terps in 39 players. (Only one Hopkins guy, Foley - and he is giving Hopkins the top attack. confused2 )

Puglise does seem to be developing into one of the better ssdms. I was making up a preseason All-Big ten team, a few weeks back, and I had Puglise as the 2nd team ssdm.

What about QK?
Except against Maryland, he seems to try to be fair and not such a Hopkins homer. Also, having been a top goalie and on championship teams, he often displays sort of a condescending attitude towards Hopkins' current team.

I think Quint goes out of his way to not appear biased towards Hopkins and that sometimes make it seem like he hates his alma mater. But if you have a conversation with him off camera it's clear that's not the case. He's not just any Hopkins grad, he played in college on the same defense as the head coach, so if he's overly nice toward Hop then people would never stop complaining about bias. Kind of an awkward situation to be in.

Puglise is a solid player who's likely to get better but I think making him 3rd team AA is quite the stretch.

HopFan16 wrote: Puglise is a solid player who's likely to get better but I think making him 3rd team AA is quite the stretch.

Perhaps it would seem like "quite the stretch" to a Hopkins' fan.

I thought Puglise did a nice job as a freshman ssdm for the Terps. If he makes the kind of improvement that players often make in going from freshman to sophomore, he could be within range of the top 3. That being said, I doubt that many would have him 3rd team preseason AA, but I don't think it is "quite the stretch" or even "a stretch" to have him there.

Puglise was a pretty good offensive player in high school, so it will be interesting to see if Tillman lets him go a bit more after clears on the offensive end this Spring.