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GreyingHound wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 8:49 pm The PL is very likely a one-bid league this year. Army's one quality win over Rutgers has lost its luster, and even if Rutgers wins the B1G tournament, its value is unlikely to improve significantly. And a win over #18 RPI BU won't help Army much either.

We see this story played out every year with one team or another. Last year it was Notre Dame; this year, it's Army. Scheduling opponents like Wagner and Mercer doesn't help build an at-large resume.

QuestionMark wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 10:38 pm Really has nothing to do with Loyola being average again this year. More to do with the weakness that Holy Cross, Colgate, Bucknell and Lafayette brings to the resume.

old salt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 11:56 pm Army used to play at Syracuse nearly every year, early in the season.

https://goarmywestpoint.com/sports/mens ... ersity/255

gymman1031 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 1:09 pm Colgate vs. Holy Cross tomorrow evening:


Colgate is 1-9 overall and 1-6 in conference play.

Holy Cross is 1-12 overall and 0-7 in conference play.


Could this be do-or-die for Colgate coach Matt Karweck? He is 12-40 since he started in 2019.

JL didn't start until 2021, and, when he took over, he was their third coach in four years. So he almost definitely will be back next year. However, he is 4-29 since then, and he has only one Patriot League victory(in 2021 over Lafayette). He had only one win (against UMass Lowell) last year, and, unless he wins tomorrow, that will be the case for 2023 as well. And that win also being against UMass Lowell. A win against Colgate will simply result in a less of a, even if just slightly, hot seat going into 2024.

GreyingHound wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 12:27 am

old salt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 11:56 pm Army used to play at Syracuse nearly every year, early in the season.

https://goarmywestpoint.com/sports/mens ... ersity/255

Yes! And some of those games were epic, along with one (or 2?) recent NCAA first-round game in the Dome. Army has had the Orange's number as of late, but I'm not speculating as to why the game was dropped...

GreyingHound wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 12:27 am

old salt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 11:56 pm Army used to play at Syracuse nearly every year, early in the season.

https://goarmywestpoint.com/sports/mens ... ersity/255

Yes! And some of those games were epic, along with one (or 2?) recent NCAA first-round game in the Dome. Army has had the Orange's number as of late, but I'm not speculating as to why the game was dropped...

GreyingHound wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:09 am

gymman1031 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 1:09 pm Colgate vs. Holy Cross tomorrow evening:


Colgate is 1-9 overall and 1-6 in conference play.

Holy Cross is 1-12 overall and 0-7 in conference play.


Could this be do-or-die for Colgate coach Matt Karweck? He is 12-40 since he started in 2019.

JL didn't start until 2021, and, when he took over, he was their third coach in four years. So he almost definitely will be back next year. However, he is 4-29 since then, and he has only one Patriot League victory(in 2021 over Lafayette). He had only one win (against UMass Lowell) last year, and, unless he wins tomorrow, that will be the case for 2023 as well. And that win also being against UMass Lowell. A win against Colgate will simply result in a less of a, even if just slightly, hot seat going into 2024.

No doubt it was a tough season for both programs. I will say that Colgate is far better than their record suggests though. Three of their losses were by a single goal and one was by two. They hung with Loyola for three quarters before giving up five straight goals in the final eight minutes of the game to lose 17-11, and they came extremely close to upsetting Army. Colgate led Army 8-7 in the fourth quarter before giving up three EMO goals to lose 10-9. And of course, they completely dominated Navy, scoring 10 unanswered to take a 10-2 lead in the second quarter!

Will be interesting to see where both programs go from here.

gymman1031 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:55 pm Did Army have any good chances to tie it in the end?

gymman1031 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 1:27 pm

GreyingHound wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:09 am

gymman1031 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 1:09 pm Colgate vs. Holy Cross tomorrow evening:


Colgate is 1-9 overall and 1-6 in conference play.

Holy Cross is 1-12 overall and 0-7 in conference play.


Could this be do-or-die for Colgate coach Matt Karweck? He is 12-40 since he started in 2019.

JL didn't start until 2021, and, when he took over, he was their third coach in four years. So he almost definitely will be back next year. However, he is 4-29 since then, and he has only one Patriot League victory(in 2021 over Lafayette). He had only one win (against UMass Lowell) last year, and, unless he wins tomorrow, that will be the case for 2023 as well. And that win also being against UMass Lowell. A win against Colgate will simply result in a less of a, even if just slightly, hot seat going into 2024.

No doubt it was a tough season for both programs. I will say that Colgate is far better than their record suggests though. Three of their losses were by a single goal and one was by two. They hung with Loyola for three quarters before giving up five straight goals in the final eight minutes of the game to lose 17-11, and they came extremely close to upsetting Army. Colgate led Army 8-7 in the fourth quarter before giving up three EMO goals to lose 10-9. And of course, they completely dominated Navy, scoring 10 unanswered to take a 10-2 lead in the second quarter!

Will be interesting to see where both programs go from here.

Thanks so much for the clarification regarding Colgate. In other words, they might be one of the better examples of a program right now who is quite a bit better than their record suggests.

old salt wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 11:54 pm

gymman1031 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 1:27 pm

GreyingHound wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:09 am

gymman1031 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 1:09 pm Colgate vs. Holy Cross tomorrow evening:


Colgate is 1-9 overall and 1-6 in conference play.

Holy Cross is 1-12 overall and 0-7 in conference play.


Could this be do-or-die for Colgate coach Matt Karweck? He is 12-40 since he started in 2019.

JL didn't start until 2021, and, when he took over, he was their third coach in four years. So he almost definitely will be back next year. However, he is 4-29 since then, and he has only one Patriot League victory(in 2021 over Lafayette). He had only one win (against UMass Lowell) last year, and, unless he wins tomorrow, that will be the case for 2023 as well. And that win also being against UMass Lowell. A win against Colgate will simply result in a less of a, even if just slightly, hot seat going into 2024.

No doubt it was a tough season for both programs. I will say that Colgate is far better than their record suggests though. Three of their losses were by a single goal and one was by two. They hung with Loyola for three quarters before giving up five straight goals in the final eight minutes of the game to lose 17-11, and they came extremely close to upsetting Army. Colgate led Army 8-7 in the fourth quarter before giving up three EMO goals to lose 10-9. And of course, they completely dominated Navy, scoring 10 unanswered to take a 10-2 lead in the second quarter!

Will be interesting to see where both programs go from here.

Thanks so much for the clarification regarding Colgate. In other words, they might be one of the better examples of a program right now who is quite a bit better than their record suggests.

I agree that Colgate is much better than their record suggests...& not just because they beat Navy.