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Re: 2022 D1 Selection Committe
Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 8:18 pm
by rolldodge
MoralTerpitude wrote: ↑Fri May 06, 2022 8:12 pm
It’s interesting that UVa was essentially “seeded” 11th by Stevens. I was thinking that if there’s any rigging going on in the selection process, it will have to do with ensuring certain match ups won’t happen too early. So UVa would have to be seeded either 6th, 7th, or playing one of those seeds in the first round (i.e. the 10th or 11th “seeds”). This would ensure that they wouldn’t play Maryland until the finals.
As a fan I like this thought process. But it could lead to some teams getting screwed seeding wise, though (especially if UVa is given the 6th or 7th seed, which they haven’t earned).
You may already know this but technically, teams. 9 through 14 aren't (necessarily) seeded relative to merit. They move them around at will based on matchups and travel distances.
Re: 2022 D1 Selection Committe
Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 10:53 pm
by 1766
wgdsr wrote: ↑Fri May 06, 2022 7:34 pm
1766 wrote: ↑Fri May 06, 2022 6:07 pm
Acc is a two bid league. Ohio St is in.
if the domers win, guess we'll see if you're right!
OSU's head to head win would be the difference maker.
Re: 2022 D1 Selection Committe
Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 11:12 pm
by CU77
RPI top 20 through games of Friday May 6:
1. Maryland 0.6784
2. Princeton 0.6539
3. Georgetown 0.6484
4. Penn 0.6442
5. Yale 0.6316
6. Rutgers 0.6306
7. Duke 0.6204
8. Cornell 0.6168
9. Virginia 0.6058
10. Brown 0.6053
11. BU 0.5900
12. OSU 0.5891
13. Harvard 0.5873
14. Notre Dame 0.5857
15. Richmond 0.5855
16. Denver 0.5752
17. Army 0.5739
18. UNC 0.5716
19. St Josephs 0.5705
20. JHU 0.5663
Re: 2022 D1 Selection Committe
Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 11:34 pm
by wgdsr
1766 wrote: ↑Fri May 06, 2022 10:53 pm
wgdsr wrote: ↑Fri May 06, 2022 7:34 pm
1766 wrote: ↑Fri May 06, 2022 6:07 pm
Acc is a two bid league. Ohio St is in.
if the domers win, guess we'll see if you're right!
OSU's head to head win would be the difference maker.
with more losses, not as good wins, and a lower rpi? sure, if that happens your tosu is in would be correct!
Re: 2022 D1 Selection Committe
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 12:16 am
by CU77
ND can pass OSU in RPI with a win. That's what happens (ND #11, OSU #12) without factoring in other remaining games.
Re: 2022 D1 Selection Committe
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 9:29 am
by MoralTerpitude
Wow, BU is up to 11? What would BU’s RPI be if Army beats them? Looks like a potential bid steal.
Also, if ND wins, what would their RPI number be, and what would OSU’s?
Re: 2022 D1 Selection Committe
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 9:33 am
by Farfromgeneva
MoralTerpitude wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 9:29 am
Wow, BU is up to 11? What would BU’s RPI be if Army beats them? Looks like a potential bid steal.
Also, if ND wins, what would their RPI number be, and what would OSU’s?
BU/Harvard comparison is another one to be done by the committee
Re: 2022 D1 Selection Committe
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 11:29 am
by wgdsr
CU77 wrote: ↑Fri May 06, 2022 11:12 pm
RPI top 20 through games of Friday May 6:
1. Maryland 0.6784
2. Princeton 0.6539
3. Georgetown 0.6484
4. Penn 0.6442
5. Yale 0.6316
6. Rutgers 0.6306
7. Duke 0.6204
8. Cornell 0.6168
9. Virginia 0.6058
10. Brown 0.6053
11. BU 0.5900
12. OSU 0.5891
13. Harvard 0.5873
14. Notre Dame 0.5857
15. Richmond 0.5855
16. Denver 0.5752
17. Army 0.5739
18. UNC 0.5716
19. St Josephs 0.5705
20. JHU 0.5663
thanks, cu. do penn, yale and rutgers move up or down in a vacuum with a loss? only if you enjoy putting in the effort.
Re: 2022 D1 Selection Committe
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 11:38 am
by wgdsr
MoralTerpitude wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 9:29 am
Wow, BU is up to 11? What would BU’s RPI be if Army beats them? Looks like a potential bid steal.
Also, if ND wins, what would their RPI number be, and what would OSU’s?
army has a good record, so it's at least possible bu holds up some, but their margin down to 12 is very thin.
nd based on what cu posted earlier might be around .6011.
my guess a bu loss drops them too much to stay above tosu. but 77 can answer if he has time.
Re: 2022 D1 Selection Committe
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 11:46 am
by Laxfan#1969
We know RPI is the framework used. So there’s that...
And while my opinion means nothing, if two teams are close in RPI, head to head should absolutely matter. Again if things are very tight
If two teams are close, and resumes are close...it’s not that hard...you ask “did they play?” If the answer is yes...then you look at who won.
Again that’s if the data is close
Re: 2022 D1 Selection Committe
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 1:09 pm
by wgdsr
@ half, duke looking like a 5 seed.
2 heavyweights battling it out.
Re: 2022 D1 Selection Committe
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 1:29 pm
by keno in reno
wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 1:09 pm
@ half, duke looking like a 5 seed.
2 heavyweights battling it out.
Duke is the 2nd best team in the country now. They would destroy any Ivy team right now (not March, now). UVA should be top 6 too. Hopefully the committee doesn't screw up the tournament by overseeding Ivies. Let 'em all in, but don't screw up the seeding. It will be like the Big Ten of march madness.
Re: 2022 D1 Selection Committe
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 1:31 pm
by PizzaSnake
keno in reno wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 1:29 pm
wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 1:09 pm
@ half, duke looking like a 5 seed.
2 heavyweights battling it out.
Duke is the 2nd best team in the country now. They would destroy any Ivy team right now (not March, now). UVA should be top 6 too. Hopefully the committee doesn't screw up the tournament by overseeding Ivies. Let 'em all in, but don't screw up the seeding. It will be like the Big Ten of march madness.
From your lips to God’s ear…
Re: 2022 D1 Selection Committe
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 1:43 pm
by 10stone5
PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 1:31 pm
keno in reno wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 1:29 pm
wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 1:09 pm
@ half, duke looking like a 5 seed.
2 heavyweights battling it out.
Duke is the 2nd best team in the country now. They would destroy any Ivy team right now (not March, now). UVA should be top 6 too. Hopefully the committee doesn't screw up the tournament by overseeding Ivies. Let 'em all in, but don't screw up the seeding. It will be like the Big Ten of march madness.
From your lips to God’s ear…
Re: 2022 D1 Selection Committe
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 1:57 pm
by keno in reno
PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 1:31 pm
keno in reno wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 1:29 pm
wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 1:09 pm
@ half, duke looking like a 5 seed.
2 heavyweights battling it out.
Duke is the 2nd best team in the country now. They would destroy any Ivy team right now (not March, now). UVA should be top 6 too. Hopefully the committee doesn't screw up the tournament by overseeding Ivies. Let 'em all in, but don't screw up the seeding. It will be like the Big Ten of march madness.
From your lips to God’s ear…
Ha good timing.
Re: 2022 D1 Selection Committe
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 2:03 pm
by joewillie78
keno in reno wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 1:29 pm
wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 1:09 pm
@ half, duke looking like a 5 seed.
2 heavyweights battling it out.
Duke is the 2nd best team in the country now. They would destroy any Ivy team right now (not March, now). UVA should be top 6 too. Hopefully the committee doesn't screw up the tournament by overseeding Ivies. Let 'em all in, but don't screw up the seeding. It will be like the Big Ten of march madness.
Will Duke get in if they lose to ND?
GOBIGRED
Joewillie78
Re: 2022 D1 Selection Committe
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 2:05 pm
by 10stone5
joewillie78 wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 2:03 pm
keno in reno wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 1:29 pm
wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 1:09 pm
@ half, duke looking like a 5 seed.
2 heavyweights battling it out.
Duke is the 2nd best team in the country now. They would destroy any Ivy team right now (not March, now). UVA should be top 6 too. Hopefully the committee doesn't screw up the tournament by overseeding Ivies. Let 'em all in, but don't screw up the seeding. It will be like the Big Ten of march madness.
Will Duke get in if they lose to ND?
GOBIGRED
Joewillie78
I think Keno was joking.
Duke’s out.
Re: 2022 D1 Selection Committe
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 2:07 pm
by MoralTerpitude
joewillie78 wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 2:03 pm
keno in reno wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 1:29 pm
wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 1:09 pm
@ half, duke looking like a 5 seed.
2 heavyweights battling it out.
Duke is the 2nd best team in the country now. They would destroy any Ivy team right now (not March, now). UVA should be top 6 too. Hopefully the committee doesn't screw up the tournament by overseeding Ivies. Let 'em all in, but don't screw up the seeding. It will be like the Big Ten of march madness.
Will Duke get in if they lose to ND?
GOBIGRED
Joewillie78
Tough to say. If the committee goes straight RPI, then yes. But if they take into account quality wins vs bad losses, my guess would be no.
Duke makes alot of bad decisions in unsettled situations, and they’ve left a very good outside shooter open on two possessions in a row.
Re: 2022 D1 Selection Committe
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 2:08 pm
by Farfromgeneva
10stone5 wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 2:05 pm
joewillie78 wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 2:03 pm
keno in reno wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 1:29 pm
wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 1:09 pm
@ half, duke looking like a 5 seed.
2 heavyweights battling it out.
Duke is the 2nd best team in the country now. They would destroy any Ivy team right now (not March, now). UVA should be top 6 too. Hopefully the committee doesn't screw up the tournament by overseeding Ivies. Let 'em all in, but don't screw up the seeding. It will be like the Big Ten of march madness.
Will Duke get in if they lose to ND?
GOBIGRED
Joewillie78
I think Keno was joking.
Duke’s out.
Funny because I recall some dead serious comments end of last reg season of people claiming Hop was better than a bunch of playoff teams and would be in the final four if they were in the tourney (which you obviously don’t get at 4-9)
Re: 2022 D1 Selection Committe
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 2:13 pm
by Wheels
So, yeah, Dano is a hall of fame coach; but is there a worse coached team than this Duke team? It's criminal how they've underperformed relative to their talent. Zero excuses.