Trump's Russian Collusion

[old salt]

PB is an original. His aviation knowledge is authentic & specific. Original thought is threatening here. Welcome to Animal Farm.

It's one thing to speak about a subject you have knowledge on. It's another to spray other parts of the board with BS just to stir the pot.

That's not the issue. PB is being accused of being another poster, using a different i.d.

His aviation knowledge is unique in this forum, not demonstrated by the other implied suspects.

I'm convinced that he's a different person than others posting in this forum.

The attempts to diminish him are typical of the intolerance of those employing them.

[jhu72]

Think you're off the mark on this one, holmes, PB isn't fatty, or rrr, or 8.3, or whatever, he's PB.
Think he's on the money with much of what he says, too. People across the board don't dwell
on this stuff like the folks who dominate these threads do. I think he's got a fairly realistic
outlook all in all, but that doesn't fit into these threads where your every word is going to
over analised...think he's figured that out at this point too.

No different than most here. Unsubstantiated claims and then when confronted with facts it’s on to something else. Look at the JHU posts. Same concept. I don’t mind him but he ain’t no bastion of righteousness either.

Moi, not a bastion of righteousness? You have got to be kidding.

I see the confusion. My fault. I should have written: LOOK AT PB’s POST ON THE HOPKINS BOARD IN MEN’s LACROSSE.... My shorthand got the best of me.

Pas de probleme. In any case you shouldn't labor under any impression that I am a bastion of righteousness.

I have seen the posts. Pure troll.

My French is terrible but I spent 4 days there last week and visited Cote-Rotie for a vineyard tour and lunch. We had a great visit.....With old friends... met an American girl from CA that moved there 18 months ago. She loves it....but she is young and in love.

.. ah to be young and in love. She could chose worse places!

[Peter Brown]

For the record and for posterity sake, this is me below (I have never posted on this site until recently, always under my childhood nickname):

1. I hate Johns Hopkins in the same way everyone hates the Yankees; I have no problem admitting my guilt!

2. I am unaware of politics (I didn't even know his name was Bill Barr, not Bob!) because politics is mostly a sideshow and I have a life to live

3. I fly a Cirrus SR-22 and am instrument-rated; I will discuss aviation at any time of the day, with any willing listener; I run a company.

4. The world is getting better every second I breathe oxygen, not because of me (I am unexceptional in every regard, earning my modesty with tremendous effect!), but because of American ingenuity and excellence

5. America is unequaled in the history of the world and shall stay that way provided we keep tax rates low (long theory to write up here)

6. Global warming is a mixed bag of well-meaning folks concerned with the environment, and not-well-meaning socialists

7. I was formerly a reliable Democrat voter; until I saw the Party change dramatically in the last few years; simultaneously and more importantly, they have lost all sense of humor (see this board!!! c'mon people!)

8. I'd still vote for Joe Biden whom I think is an absolutely great human being!

9. Democrats will instead nominate Elizabeth Warren, and thus be forever conscripted to the dustbin of history having done so

10. In case you find yourself in Vegas in the next few months and wish to wager on my beloved Loyola Hounds for the 2020 'Ship, I am here to congratulate you on your excellent lacrosse knowledge!

[a fan]

5. America is unequaled in the history of the world and shall stay that way provided we keep tax rates low (long theory to write up here)

6. Global warming is a mixed bag of well-meaning folks concerned with the environment, and not-well-meaning socialists

So what you're saying here is:

1. You want taxpayers to continue to pay for your expensive socialized industry (Government owns and operates airports, security, safety protocols)

2. You want to keep taxes low so that we have to borrow the money to keep your business literally in the air.


That about square it? I'd agree with you personal points here. That's a sweet deal for you. For businesses like mine, not so much.

Enjoy my money, I guess.

[seacoaster]

5. America is unequaled in the history of the world and shall stay that way provided we keep tax rates low (long theory to write up here)

6. Global warming is a mixed bag of well-meaning folks concerned with the environment, and not-well-meaning socialists

So what you're saying here is:

1. You want taxpayers to continue to pay for your expensive socialized industry (Government owns and operates airports, security, safety protocols)

2. You want to keep taxes low so that we have to borrow the money to keep your business literally in the air.


That about square it? I'd agree with you personal points here. That's a sweet deal for you. For businesses like mine, not so much.

Enjoy my money, I guess.

Can we go back and talk about impeachment on this thread, and use other threads for discussions that are relevant there? I understand the way we post often slides sideways, but this PB-specific discussion has gone on a while here.

[a fan]

Sorry about that. No problem.

[seacoaster]

An assessment of Senator Graham's "Impeachment Resolution:"

https://www.newsweek.com/lindsey-graham ... on-1467747

When will Republicans start talking about the merits?

[jhu72]

An assessment of Senator Graham's "Impeachment Resolution:"

https://www.newsweek.com/lindsey-graham ... on-1467747

When will Republicans start talking about the merits?

Last night after the resolution was submitted, there were 8 republicans - likely suspects who would not sign it. Any word if this has changed. If they hold out, this will be a huge message.

[seacoaster]

An assessment of Senator Graham's "Impeachment Resolution:"

https://www.newsweek.com/lindsey-graham ... on-1467747

When will Republicans start talking about the merits?

Last night after the resolution was submitted, there were 8 republicans - likely suspects who would not sign it. Any word if this has changed. If they hold out, this will be a huge message.

This is the most recent I can find:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... em/600724/

"As the White House struggles to build an anti-impeachment strategy, President Donald Trump turned this week to Lindsey Graham, his staunchest ally in the Senate, to try to stiffen Republican spines in that chamber. It’s not going the way the president must have hoped.

On Thursday, Graham announced that he’d put forward a resolution condemning the House impeachment inquiry. By mid-afternoon, when he actually announced it, the resolution had been watered down to a plea for a different and more transparent process, apparently a sop to GOP senators unwilling to go quite that far. And yet by Friday morning, only 44 of 53 Republicans in the Senate had signed on to the resolution. A gesture meant to be a show of solidarity by senators has instead become a sign of the weakness of the president’s position."

[jhu72]

An assessment of Senator Graham's "Impeachment Resolution:"

https://www.newsweek.com/lindsey-graham ... on-1467747

When will Republicans start talking about the merits?

Last night after the resolution was submitted, there were 8 republicans - likely suspects who would not sign it. Any word if this has changed. If they hold out, this will be a huge message.

This is the most recent I can find:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... em/600724/

"As the White House struggles to build an anti-impeachment strategy, President Donald Trump turned this week to Lindsey Graham, his staunchest ally in the Senate, to try to stiffen Republican spines in that chamber. It’s not going the way the president must have hoped.

On Thursday, Graham announced that he’d put forward a resolution condemning the House impeachment inquiry. By mid-afternoon, when he actually announced it, the resolution had been watered down to a plea for a different and more transparent process, apparently a sop to GOP senators unwilling to go quite that far. And yet by Friday morning, only 44 of 53 Republicans in the Senate had signed on to the resolution. A gesture meant to be a show of solidarity by senators has instead become a sign of the weakness of the president’s position."

I did a search as well and the latest I could find was 7 republicans would not sign and it looks like no democrats as Joe Manchin would not sign. If this holds up Trumpty dumpty is going to have significant egg on his face! And Graham will look like the fool he is. When McCain died they buried Graham's brain and balls.

[njbill]

Now down to three non-signers: Romney, Collins, and Murkowski.

[RedFromMI]

Federal court says DOJ needs to release redacted parts of Mueller report (all portions), as well as underlying referenced documents (to HJC).

Judge Howell, DC Circuit

Release ordered by 10/31.

Certain to be appealed.

[jhu72]

Now down to three non-signers: Romney, Collins, and Murkowski.

I am guessing that's not likely to change. Trump has nothing on either Romney or Murkowski. Collins is in deep trouble at home. So Trump gets a 50-50 vote, not a victory but not a huge black eye. This was probably negotiated inside the caucus.

[jhu72]

Federal court says DOJ needs to release redacted parts of Mueller report (all portions), as well as underlying referenced documents.

Judge Howell, DC Circuit

Release ordered by 10/31.

Certain to be appealed.

Including grand jury testimony.


So OD loses another court fight and likely if it goes higher the same result. Delay, delay, delay.

[ggait]

Snippet from Howell's opinion:

"Even in cases of presidential impeachment, a House resolution has never, in fact, been required to begin an impeachment inquiry."

[jhu72]

Snippet from Howell's opinion:

"Even in cases of presidential impeachment, a House resolution has never, in fact, been required to begin an impeachment inquiry."

[ggait]

Judge Howell, DC Circuit

DC District Court, not circuit. So you still could have DC Circuit, DC Circuit en banc, SCOTUS remaining.

Quite a losing streak the Trump legal team is on. Washington Generals-esque. But the losing does run the clock.

[jhu72]

Judge Howell, DC Circuit

DC District Court, not circuit.

So you still could have DC Circuit, DC Circuit en banc, SCOTUS remaining.

Not a lawyer but this seems to be a very straightforward case. Nothing to interest the supremes.

[jhu72]

Starting to look like Bolton is going to testify.

[Trinity]

Wasn’t it Judge Howell who said if Americans could read the entire Mueller Report they’d have a very different impression of their government?