Conservative Ideology: A Big Lie

[MDlaxfan76]

And that's relevant how to the excise of the cancer in the GOP?

Shiny Object much? Shamelessness is their superpower. This is a venerated Fourth Circuit Judge, and renowned "Conservative." But they don't want to deal with the reality; they want us to "move on." To 2024.

yes, Luttig is correct.

[a fan]

Does anyone remember that major American cities had to board up shops and stores the night of the election because we knew the left would riot if Trump won again?

Boy, good thing we don't have to worry about citizens rioting when the righties lose, am-I-right?

[dislaxxic]

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[Peter Brown]

Does anyone remember that major American cities had to board up shops and stores the night of the election because we knew the left would riot if Trump won again?

Boy, good thing we don't have to worry about citizens rioting when the righties lose, am-I-right?

You mean stores all over America are gonna board up next time because a handful of malcontent loons walked into the Capitol?! Lol. I’m not sure the math or the stretched equivocation adds up in favor of Dems here; let’s see, $2.5 billion across dozens of cities, wrecked businesses, burned down buildings, versus a couple hundo for a lost podium in one town.…..wut?

[NattyBohChamps04]

Does anyone remember that major American cities had to board up shops and stores the night of the election because we knew the left would riot if Trump won again?

Boy, good thing we don't have to worry about citizens rioting when the righties lose, am-I-right?

The projection is astounding. There was a post in this thread a few days ago about Republicans banning homelessness in Tennessee. The first response? "sounds like something you and your DemocRATS would try and outlaw".

Any problem out there gets met with a whatabout "well Democrats..." even if it has nothing to do with the actual topic, like rioting after an election.

Vladimir Putin said today about Hillary and Dems: "In my opinion, it is humiliating. One must be able to lose with dignity." So true! — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 24, 2016

[Seacoaster(1)]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uENm_svsARg

[a fan]

Does anyone remember that major American cities had to board up shops and stores the night of the election because we knew the left would riot if Trump won again?

Boy, good thing we don't have to worry about citizens rioting when the righties lose, am-I-right?

You mean stores all over America are gonna board up next time because a handful of malcontent loons walked into the Capitol?! Lol. I’m not sure the math or the stretched equivocation adds up in favor of Dems here; let’s see, $2.5 billion across dozens of cities, wrecked businesses, burned down buildings, versus a couple hundo for a lost podium in one town.…..wut?

What are you talking about...and where are you getting your made up math? The Dems didn't riot over the election. The Republicans did.

[Peter Brown]

Does anyone remember that major American cities had to board up shops and stores the night of the election because we knew the left would riot if Trump won again?

Boy, good thing we don't have to worry about citizens rioting when the righties lose, am-I-right?

You mean stores all over America are gonna board up next time because a handful of malcontent loons walked into the Capitol?! Lol. I’m not sure the math or the stretched equivocation adds up in favor of Dems here; let’s see, $2.5 billion across dozens of cities, wrecked businesses, burned down buildings, versus a couple hundo for a lost podium in one town.…..wut?

What are you talking about...and where are you getting your made up math? The Dems didn't riot over the election. The Republicans did.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... LLION.html

[jhu72]

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[a fan]

Does anyone remember that major American cities had to board up shops and stores the night of the election because we knew the left would riot if Trump won again?

Boy, good thing we don't have to worry about citizens rioting when the righties lose, am-I-right?

You mean stores all over America are gonna board up next time because a handful of malcontent loons walked into the Capitol?! Lol. I’m not sure the math or the stretched equivocation adds up in favor of Dems here; let’s see, $2.5 billion across dozens of cities, wrecked businesses, burned down buildings, versus a couple hundo for a lost podium in one town.…..wut?

What are you talking about...and where are you getting your made up math? The Dems didn't riot over the election. The Republicans did.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... LLION.html

That's not because of a lost election, Petey. Stay with the class. No naps.

[jhu72]

Does anyone remember that major American cities had to board up shops and stores the night of the election because we knew the left would riot if Trump won again?

Boy, good thing we don't have to worry about citizens rioting when the righties lose, am-I-right?

You mean stores all over America are gonna board up next time because a handful of malcontent loons walked into the Capitol?! Lol. I’m not sure the math or the stretched equivocation adds up in favor of Dems here; let’s see, $2.5 billion across dozens of cities, wrecked businesses, burned down buildings, versus a couple hundo for a lost podium in one town.…..wut?

What are you talking about...and where are you getting your made up math? The Dems didn't riot over the election. The Republicans did.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... LLION.html

Typical KellyAnne lies - SPIN. First you claim 2.5 billion above, then present us with an article that claims the number is 2 billion, when the plurality of media articles at the time couldn't quantify the damage, but range estimates ran from 1 billion to 2 billion. Then of course there was a few hundred for a lost podium, your estimate, when the reputable media was reporting 1.5 million as the damage.

Not to mention the real damage in the Jan 6 Insurrection.

Why do you hate black people??? Why do you hate democracy??? Why do you hate America???

[old salt]

Just wondering if we can agree -- all of us -- that Kevin McCarthy is really the dumbest most venal f*ckwad in Congress?

First, he denies that he told his caucus he wanted Trump to resign and discussed the 25th Amendment with GOP leadership. Then a tape of the very conversation appears, which completely refutes the denial. In the tape, McCarthy casually discusses the option of the 25th Amendment, telling Trump to resign, and making sure Pence won’t pardon him, with Scalise and Liz Cheney...only to, a couple of weeks later, kick Cheney out of leadership for saying the same things he did.

This is your party's potential Speaker of the House.

Have you heard the entire tape ? It sounds to me like McCarthy & Cheney were gaming out (in confidence) their House caucus response IF the 25th Amendment was invoked (was it ?). It was not an unconditional statement that he would act. It was a "what if".
It was a non-binding symbolic House Resolution, urging VP Pence to invoke the 25th Amendment.
Only 1 (R) voted in favor of the resolution & it was not Cheney. She & McCarthy were discussing how their caucus should respond.

Regarding trust. Who'd trust Cheney to have a phone call with her, thinking it's in confidence ?

Oh, you — Mr. Evidence and Where’s the Crime — know that Cheney taped the call and leaked it? And gaming it out? No, sir. He’s talking to allies about what he plans to do. Resist any pardon from Pense. I really don’t know how you call yourself an American. You may be the saddest, most disappointing poster on these pages.

...you are just making stuff up. Somebody taped the call. Why would McCarthy release it ? Listen to the tape. He told Liz what he was thinking about doing. Did he actually do it, or change his mind after consulting others ? Was the vote taken yet ? Did they know then that only 1 member of their caucus would vote in favor of the resolution. It was a confidential strategy session between 2 party leaders. It was not a public statement or firm commitment. You are a dishonest McCarthyite & a disgrace to the legal profession. Were name calling & personal attacks productive for you ?

There were likely more than two people on that call, and likely staffers as well. You're making an accusation, Salty, without evidence. Yes, that's immensely hypocritical coming from you and the insult in response is the result.

McCarthy baldfacedly lied about this conversation and what we have continued to learn since the initial release of this tape is that McCarthy was indeed appalled at what had happened and extremely concerned that more violence was going to happen due to incitement from his Members. There's no question about where his head was at the time, though I'd posit that his concern may well have been more about political fallout than the actual costs of violence. But he knew it was wrong for Trump and his Members to incite violence...

In one sense, it's reassuring that McCarthy and Scalise as well as Cheney...and other Members...were aware that what had gone down was very, very wrong and that Trump and some of the Members and Senators had been complicit in its incitement, but it's also quite depressing that they then bailed out from doing the hard thing of cleansing the party from that stench, those errors.

So far, we haven't heard that McCarthy and Scalise etc understood, fully, what some of the Members and Senators had been doing behind the scenes in fomenting the efforts to create a sense of 'legitimacy' to the coup attempt, as much of what is exposed in these most recent tapes is McCarthy being informed of what some Members were doing and saying even after Jan 6, and his negative reactions as he learned. Surprise, disgust, dismay. But perhaps we will soon learn that he then learned more, and how widespread the cancer was, and that's why he bailed on trying to excise it...not just a couple of rogue Members but a whole lot of them, and much worse behavior than he'd ever imagined. Too much cancer to be able to cut it out without 'killing' himself in the process.

So, instead he went to Mar a Lago and bent the knee and then has made every possible effort to provide air cover for even the most egregious offenders, no matter what they said and did...and is still doing so. Live with the cancer...for now...

You are swallowing the MSDNC spin. They're hysterical to divert from the electoral drubbing headed their way.

Listen to the entire call & place it in time & circumstances. They were talking about options on what to do IF the 25th Amendment was invoked or if Trump was impeached by the House & it looked like there was time & votes for the Senate to try to convict Trump. That call was before he spoke with Pence, so he did not know if the 25th was being considered. IF either happened, then he would recommend resignation a la Nixon.

At that point, neither was likely. Trump had less than 2 weeks left in office. If he did anything from that point to obstruct the transfer of power, & delay leaving office, THEN the 25th Amendment & impeachment+conviction became realistic possibilities. The majority of (R)'s on Congress were, by that point, were exasperated with Trump. They wanted him gone with the least ongoing damage to the party. Trump finally realized he was done & did not obstruct Biden taking office.

Cheney & McCarthy are the only ones identified or heard on the call. It's an assumption on your part that others were on the call.
Why would McCarthy leak it? More likely Cheney leaked it or she shared it with the committee & it was leaked from there.

[Seacoaster(1)]

At least you’re heading toward conceding you have no idea who leaked it. Keep it up. Maybe you’ll adhere to the oath and honor code again someday.

[MDlaxfan76]

Just wondering if we can agree -- all of us -- that Kevin McCarthy is really the dumbest most venal f*ckwad in Congress?

First, he denies that he told his caucus he wanted Trump to resign and discussed the 25th Amendment with GOP leadership. Then a tape of the very conversation appears, which completely refutes the denial. In the tape, McCarthy casually discusses the option of the 25th Amendment, telling Trump to resign, and making sure Pence won’t pardon him, with Scalise and Liz Cheney...only to, a couple of weeks later, kick Cheney out of leadership for saying the same things he did.

This is your party's potential Speaker of the House.

Have you heard the entire tape ? It sounds to me like McCarthy & Cheney were gaming out (in confidence) their House caucus response IF the 25th Amendment was invoked (was it ?). It was not an unconditional statement that he would act. It was a "what if".
It was a non-binding symbolic House Resolution, urging VP Pence to invoke the 25th Amendment.
Only 1 (R) voted in favor of the resolution & it was not Cheney. She & McCarthy were discussing how their caucus should respond.

Regarding trust. Who'd trust Cheney to have a phone call with her, thinking it's in confidence ?

Oh, you — Mr. Evidence and Where’s the Crime — know that Cheney taped the call and leaked it? And gaming it out? No, sir. He’s talking to allies about what he plans to do. Resist any pardon from Pense. I really don’t know how you call yourself an American. You may be the saddest, most disappointing poster on these pages.

...you are just making stuff up. Somebody taped the call. Why would McCarthy release it ? Listen to the tape. He told Liz what he was thinking about doing. Did he actually do it, or change his mind after consulting others ? Was the vote taken yet ? Did they know then that only 1 member of their caucus would vote in favor of the resolution. It was a confidential strategy session between 2 party leaders. It was not a public statement or firm commitment. You are a dishonest McCarthyite & a disgrace to the legal profession. Were name calling & personal attacks productive for you ?

There were likely more than two people on that call, and likely staffers as well. You're making an accusation, Salty, without evidence. Yes, that's immensely hypocritical coming from you and the insult in response is the result.

McCarthy baldfacedly lied about this conversation and what we have continued to learn since the initial release of this tape is that McCarthy was indeed appalled at what had happened and extremely concerned that more violence was going to happen due to incitement from his Members. There's no question about where his head was at the time, though I'd posit that his concern may well have been more about political fallout than the actual costs of violence. But he knew it was wrong for Trump and his Members to incite violence...

In one sense, it's reassuring that McCarthy and Scalise as well as Cheney...and other Members...were aware that what had gone down was very, very wrong and that Trump and some of the Members and Senators had been complicit in its incitement, but it's also quite depressing that they then bailed out from doing the hard thing of cleansing the party from that stench, those errors.

So far, we haven't heard that McCarthy and Scalise etc understood, fully, what some of the Members and Senators had been doing behind the scenes in fomenting the efforts to create a sense of 'legitimacy' to the coup attempt, as much of what is exposed in these most recent tapes is McCarthy being informed of what some Members were doing and saying even after Jan 6, and his negative reactions as he learned. Surprise, disgust, dismay. But perhaps we will soon learn that he then learned more, and how widespread the cancer was, and that's why he bailed on trying to excise it...not just a couple of rogue Members but a whole lot of them, and much worse behavior than he'd ever imagined. Too much cancer to be able to cut it out without 'killing' himself in the process.

So, instead he went to Mar a Lago and bent the knee and then has made every possible effort to provide air cover for even the most egregious offenders, no matter what they said and did...and is still doing so. Live with the cancer...for now...

You are swallowing the MSDNC spin. They're hysterical to divert from the electoral drubbing headed their way.

Listen to the entire call & place it in time & circumstances. They were talking about options on what to do IF the 25th Amendment was invoked or if Trump was impeached by the House & it looked like there was time & votes for the Senate to try to convict Trump. That call was before he spoke with Pence, so he did not know if the 25th was being considered. IF either happened, then he would recommend resignation a la Nixon.

At that point, neither was likely. Trump had less than 2 weeks left in office. If he did anything from that point to obstruct the transfer of power, & delay leaving office, THEN the 25th Amendment & impeachment+conviction became realistic possibilities. The majority of (R)'s on Congress were, by that point, were exasperated with Trump. They wanted him gone with the least ongoing damage to the party. Trump finally realized he was done & did not obstruct Biden taking office.

Cheney & McCarthy are the only ones identified or heard on the call. It's an assumption on your part that others were on the call.
Why would McCarthy leak it? More likely Cheney leaked it or she shared it with the committee & it was leaked from there.

She says she didn't record it, Salty. Either that's a baldfaced lie, or she didn't. And the Committee will know that truth, assuming they've been provided it as well. But certainly one of her staffers may have, or one of McCarthy's, and/or anyone else on that call...have YOU heard the entire call??? or just that particular exchange? Very unlikely that it was a 1:1 call on this topic.

[cradleandshoot]

Does anyone remember that major American cities had to board up shops and stores the night of the election because we knew the left would riot if Trump won again?

Boy, good thing we don't have to worry about citizens rioting when the righties lose, am-I-right?

The projection is astounding. There was a post in this thread a few days ago about Republicans banning homelessness in Tennessee. The first response? "sounds like something you and your DemocRATS would try and outlaw".

Any problem out there gets met with a whatabout "well Democrats..." even if it has nothing to do with the actual topic, like rioting after an election.

Vladimir Putin said today about Hillary and Dems: "In my opinion, it is humiliating. One must be able to lose with dignity." So true! — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 24, 2016

You know if Hillary's reset button had worked the way she advertised it.. none of this would be happening now would it???

[Peter Brown]

Does anyone remember that major American cities had to board up shops and stores the night of the election because we knew the left would riot if Trump won again?

Boy, good thing we don't have to worry about citizens rioting when the righties lose, am-I-right?

The projection is astounding. There was a post in this thread a few days ago about Republicans banning homelessness in Tennessee. The first response? "sounds like something you and your DemocRATS would try and outlaw".

Any problem out there gets met with a whatabout "well Democrats..." even if it has nothing to do with the actual topic, like rioting after an election.

Vladimir Putin said today about Hillary and Dems: "In my opinion, it is humiliating. One must be able to lose with dignity." So true! — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 24, 2016

You know if Hillary's reset button had worked the way she advertised it.. none of this would be happening now would it???

Did you know that Google’s CFO cried when discussing Hillary’s loss?!?

These people are looney tunes.

[cradleandshoot]

Does anyone remember that major American cities had to board up shops and stores the night of the election because we knew the left would riot if Trump won again?

Boy, good thing we don't have to worry about citizens rioting when the righties lose, am-I-right?

The projection is astounding. There was a post in this thread a few days ago about Republicans banning homelessness in Tennessee. The first response? "sounds like something you and your DemocRATS would try and outlaw".

Any problem out there gets met with a whatabout "well Democrats..." even if it has nothing to do with the actual topic, like rioting after an election.

Vladimir Putin said today about Hillary and Dems: "In my opinion, it is humiliating. One must be able to lose with dignity." So true! — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 24, 2016

You know if Hillary's reset button had worked the way she advertised it.. none of this would be happening now would it???

Did you know that Google’s CFO cried when discussing Hillary’s loss?!?

These people are looney tunes.

I would have cried if Hillary had won. I'm surprised the Queen of Evil never made a lamp endorsement. She is an expert in the art of hurling lamps at human beings and inanimate objects. This lamp is HRC approved if used to hurl at your husband for leaving evidence on the blue dress.

[Peter Brown]

Does anyone remember that major American cities had to board up shops and stores the night of the election because we knew the left would riot if Trump won again?

Boy, good thing we don't have to worry about citizens rioting when the righties lose, am-I-right?

The projection is astounding. There was a post in this thread a few days ago about Republicans banning homelessness in Tennessee. The first response? "sounds like something you and your DemocRATS would try and outlaw".

Any problem out there gets met with a whatabout "well Democrats..." even if it has nothing to do with the actual topic, like rioting after an election.

Vladimir Putin said today about Hillary and Dems: "In my opinion, it is humiliating. One must be able to lose with dignity." So true! — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 24, 2016

You know if Hillary's reset button had worked the way she advertised it.. none of this would be happening now would it???

Did you know that Google’s CFO cried when discussing Hillary’s loss?!?

These people are looney tunes.

I would have cried if Hillary had won. I'm surprised the Queen of Evil never made a lamp endorsement. She is an expert in the art of hurling lamps at human beings and inanimate objects. This lamp is HRC approved if used to hurl at your husband for leaving evidence on the blue dress.

You know the FLP gets enraged when you mock their Queen?!?

[cradleandshoot]

Does anyone remember that major American cities had to board up shops and stores the night of the election because we knew the left would riot if Trump won again?

Boy, good thing we don't have to worry about citizens rioting when the righties lose, am-I-right?

The projection is astounding. There was a post in this thread a few days ago about Republicans banning homelessness in Tennessee. The first response? "sounds like something you and your DemocRATS would try and outlaw".

Any problem out there gets met with a whatabout "well Democrats..." even if it has nothing to do with the actual topic, like rioting after an election.

Vladimir Putin said today about Hillary and Dems: "In my opinion, it is humiliating. One must be able to lose with dignity." So true! — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 24, 2016

You know if Hillary's reset button had worked the way she advertised it.. none of this would be happening now would it???

Did you know that Google’s CFO cried when discussing Hillary’s loss?!?

These people are looney tunes.

I would have cried if Hillary had won. I'm surprised the Queen of Evil never made a lamp endorsement. She is an expert in the art of hurling lamps at human beings and inanimate objects. This lamp is HRC approved if used to hurl at your husband for leaving evidence on the blue dress.

You know the FLP gets enraged when you mock their Queen?!?

IMO, if they could speak off the record, the FLP with a sense of moral integrity are enraged with the queen of evil.

[Peter Brown]

Does anyone remember that major American cities had to board up shops and stores the night of the election because we knew the left would riot if Trump won again?

Boy, good thing we don't have to worry about citizens rioting when the righties lose, am-I-right?

The projection is astounding. There was a post in this thread a few days ago about Republicans banning homelessness in Tennessee. The first response? "sounds like something you and your DemocRATS would try and outlaw".

Any problem out there gets met with a whatabout "well Democrats..." even if it has nothing to do with the actual topic, like rioting after an election.

Vladimir Putin said today about Hillary and Dems: "In my opinion, it is humiliating. One must be able to lose with dignity." So true! — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 24, 2016

You know if Hillary's reset button had worked the way she advertised it.. none of this would be happening now would it???

Did you know that Google’s CFO cried when discussing Hillary’s loss?!?

These people are looney tunes.

I would have cried if Hillary had won. I'm surprised the Queen of Evil never made a lamp endorsement. She is an expert in the art of hurling lamps at human beings and inanimate objects. This lamp is HRC approved if used to hurl at your husband for leaving evidence on the blue dress.

You know the FLP gets enraged when you mock their Queen?!?

IMO, if they could speak off the record, the FLP with a sense of moral integrity are enraged with the queen of evil.

What a bizarre life she’s led! I can’t imagine being so plaintively desperate to be a politician.