Race in America - Riots Explode in Chicago

[Peter Brown]

Friday night in Rochester a large house party broke out in gunfire after midnight. Sixteen people shot, two fatally both teenage black kids recently graduated from HS. A few short miles away in front of city hall the protests relating to the death of Daniel Prude kept going. To the best of my knowledge, none of the leadership of the movement had a word to say about the deaths of this young man and woman who happened to be black. BLM or is it really SBLM??

Try finding any story on “Michael Rhynes Jr”. You won’t.

Walked into a bar in Louisville Friday night and shot dead 3 people. He was wearing a Free Breonna Taylor tshirt. Imagine the media hysteria if he had been wearing a MAGA hat and shot dead 3 black patrons. Fanlax Dems wouldn’t be able to eat they’d be so hysterical.

[old salt]

Texas police officer indicted in shooting death of woman struck when he fired shots at an unrestrained dog

Honestly....we can’t do better?

Yes. Dudley DoRight. In such cases, the police should be trained to let an unrestrained dog attack them.

I don't know. I guess if he is willing to pay the price now it was the right decision.

nothing that a good samuri sword can't fix. Nothing more satisfying that watching an attacking pitbull impailed on a sword.

I hate those dogs.

You should hate their owners who made them that way.
You should take the time to meet some that are socialized, just like any other breed.
They are great dogs. They reflect the way they are treated & trained.
I've rescued & fostered several. They're no different than other dogs.
They're less protective & less likely to bite than a shepherd or a rotty.
https://www.pmarinc.org/?gclid=EAIaIQob ... gJv4PD_BwE

[RedFromMI]

Texas police officer indicted in shooting death of woman struck when he fired shots at an unrestrained dog

Honestly....we can’t do better?

Yes. Dudley DoRight. In such cases, the police should be trained to let an unrestrained dog attack them.

I don't know. I guess if he is willing to pay the price now it was the right decision.

nothing that a good samuri sword can't fix. Nothing more satisfying that watching an attacking pitbull impailed on a sword.

I hate those dogs.

You should hate their owners who made them that way.
You should take the time to meet some that are socialized, just like any other breed.
They are great dogs. They reflect the way they are treated & trained.
I've rescued & fostered several. They're no different than other dogs.
They're less protective & less likely to bite than a shepherd or a rotty.
https://www.pmarinc.org/?gclid=EAIaIQob ... gJv4PD_BwE

I have to agree with OS here - pit bulls or whatever you call them can be both such sweethearts to be with and protective without having to bite/menace. They can have an imposing manner, but I have never had an issue with the ones I have come across.

[cradleandshoot]

Texas police officer indicted in shooting death of woman struck when he fired shots at an unrestrained dog

Honestly....we can’t do better?

Yes. Dudley DoRight. In such cases, the police should be trained to let an unrestrained dog attack them.

I don't know. I guess if he is willing to pay the price now it was the right decision.

nothing that a good samuri sword can't fix. Nothing more satisfying that watching an attacking pitbull impailed on a sword.

I hate those dogs.

You should hate their owners who made them that way.
You should take the time to meet some that are socialized, just like any other breed.
They are great dogs. They reflect the way they are treated & trained.
I've rescued & fostered several. They're no different than other dogs.
They're less protective & less likely to bite than a shepherd or a rotty.
https://www.pmarinc.org/?gclid=EAIaIQob ... gJv4PD_BwE

+1. Pitties are amazing dogs. My beloved Tugger was the most gentle dog in the world. It is not about bad dogs it is about bad owners.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Texas police officer indicted in shooting death of woman struck when he fired shots at an unrestrained dog

Honestly....we can’t do better?

Yes. Dudley DoRight. In such cases, the police should be trained to let an unrestrained dog attack them.

I don't know. I guess if he is willing to pay the price now it was the right decision.

nothing that a good samuri sword can't fix. Nothing more satisfying that watching an attacking pitbull impailed on a sword.

I hate those dogs.

You should hate their owners who made them that way.
You should take the time to meet some that are socialized, just like any other breed.
They are great dogs. They reflect the way they are treated & trained.
I've rescued & fostered several. They're no different than other dogs.
They're less protective & less likely to bite than a shepherd or a rotty.
https://www.pmarinc.org/?gclid=EAIaIQob ... gJv4PD_BwE

I have heard that and seen that but I don’t trust those dogs. I never heard of a Havanese killing someone. That’s what we have. (It’s not the dogs fault, I understand that).

[old salt]

Texas police officer indicted in shooting death of woman struck when he fired shots at an unrestrained dog

Honestly....we can’t do better?

Yes. Dudley DoRight. In such cases, the police should be trained to let an unrestrained dog attack them.

I don't know. I guess if he is willing to pay the price now it was the right decision.

nothing that a good samuri sword can't fix. Nothing more satisfying that watching an attacking pitbull impailed on a sword.

I hate those dogs.

You should hate their owners who made them that way.
You should take the time to meet some that are socialized, just like any other breed.
They are great dogs. They reflect the way they are treated & trained.
I've rescued & fostered several. They're no different than other dogs.
They're less protective & less likely to bite than a shepherd or a rotty.
https://www.pmarinc.org/?gclid=EAIaIQob ... gJv4PD_BwE

I have heard that and seen that but I don’t trust those dogs. I never heard of a Havanese killing someone. That’s what we have. (It’s not the dogs fault, I understand that).

Understandable. Some people have an irrational fear of their stereotypical owner.

[holmes435]

And some dogs are bred for aggression, bite force, strength, stamina, size, ability to herd, and more. Dogs are all individuals, but breeds share similar traits. Nature + nurture, like so much in life.


Some things feel like yesterday....

[runrussellrun]

Texas police officer indicted in shooting death of woman struck when he fired shots at an unrestrained dog

Honestly....we can’t do better?

Yes. Dudley DoRight. In such cases, the police should be trained to let an unrestrained dog attack them.

I don't know. I guess if he is willing to pay the price now it was the right decision.

nothing that a good samuri sword can't fix. Nothing more satisfying that watching an attacking pitbull impailed on a sword.

I hate those dogs.

You should hate their owners who made them that way.
You should take the time to meet some that are socialized, just like any other breed.
They are great dogs. They reflect the way they are treated & trained.
I've rescued & fostered several. They're no different than other dogs.
They're less protective & less likely to bite than a shepherd or a rotty.
https://www.pmarinc.org/?gclid=EAIaIQob ... gJv4PD_BwE

hillaryous clinton........you just completely contradicted yourself. SOME dogs are predisposed, while others "learn" behavior....got it

[runrussellrun]

And some dogs are bred for aggression, bite force, strength, stamina, size, ability to herd, and more. Dogs are all individuals, but breeds share similar traits. Nature + nurture, like so much in life.


Some things feel like yesterday....

I mean.....who doesn't adapt 40 year old nazi's in prison. Shame on St. Mary's for dropping the womans program.

[kramerica.inc]

A coworker suggested this was all about reparations.

“I’d be damned if I feel responsible to pay for something that happened 300 years ago.”
-Joe Biden

[holmes435]

Hey Brooklyn - congrats on your nice genes!

[Peter Brown]

A coworker suggested this was all about reparations.

“I’d be damned if I feel responsible to pay for something that happened 300 years ago.”
-Joe Biden

As funny as it is, it's sad that if Biden leads this Party, you can kiss places like NYC good-bye for a decade.

Today, AOC's comrades revealed their plan to remake NYC into a socialist 'paradise'. The Fanlax Dems get butt-hurt when I say the Democratic Party is a he!!-hole taking America down with it, and of course the evidence mounts every day that that is the truth. But this one takes the cake:

https://nypost.com/2020/09/21/aocs-soci ... york-city/

AOC-backed socialists have a plan to take over New York City:

A litmus test for candidates to obtain the DSA endorsement is a pledge to “defund” the NYPD — slashing the police budget by $3 billion or 50 percent.

I gather none of these geniuses have bothered to look at the recent uptick in crime in NYC...?

It won't matter. This will happen because most Democrats are afraid of their own mob. You can already see here on a lacrosse forum where Democrats believe there's systematic killing of unarmed blacks no matter how much evidence you show them to the contrary. They know it as surely as they know that Clinton was winning in '16, that the Rolling Stone article was accurate, that Global Warming is going to kill us, and that Covid is the black plague. They knew Russiagate and still believe. And this is a lacrosse site, imagine the lunacy on far left sites on the Internet! DocB would be considered to be a far-right monster there!

So the Fanlax Dems as they play twinkles with their more illustrious radical lefties have no idea that they are handing them the rope to hang them all with. AOC's gang of Venezuelan revolutionaries is coming for you and your family, fellas. Some of you are probably good with that. Others perhaps not as much. But they're coming and you won't be able to stop it.

She killed 25,000 high-paying Amazon jobs in NYC because of uhhhh, what, capitalism? She does not care what you think or want.

Good luck!

[a fan]

She killed 25,000 high-paying Amazon jobs in NYC because of uhhhh, what, capitalism? She does not care what you think or want.

In what world is allowing Amazon to operate without being taxed, while F***cking every other NYC business with a full suite of taxes capitalism, Pete?

Or how about this: if you think this is such a swell idea, how about I send your company my companies tax bills, and YOU can pay them.


We have a nation of people who can't add. 1950's Conservatives must be laughing their *sses off in heaven as they watch 2020 fake conservatives tell us that it makes PERFECT sense for one company to not get taxed at all, while every other smaller company pays their taxes for them.

FFS.

[Peter Brown]

She killed 25,000 high-paying Amazon jobs in NYC because of uhhhh, what, capitalism? She does not care what you think or want.

In what world is allowing Amazon to operate without being taxed, while F***cking every other NYC business with a full suite of taxes capitalism, Pete?

Or how about this: if you think this is such a swell idea, how about I send your company my companies tax bills, and YOU can pay them.


We have a nation of people who can't add. 1950's Conservatives must be laughing their *sses off in heaven as they watch 2020 fake conservatives tell us that it makes PERFECT sense for one company to not get taxed at all, while every other smaller company pays their taxes for them.

FFS.

I'm no fan of deals to attract companies, but that is not and was not AOC's beef...AOC simply hates capitalism, full stop.

That said, your analysis is one-dimensional.

Amazon would have generated $27.5 billion in state and city revenue over 25 years, a 9:1 ratio of revenue to subsidies; 25,000 jobs over the first decade with up to 40,000 when all was said and done; average salary of $150,000. 1,300 construction jobs and 107,000 in total direct and indirect jobs.

That is a ton of income tax revenue, far exceeding any tax incentive. Again, this is irrelevant because AOC and gang could not care less about budgets or deals; she simply wanted Amazon's scalp, and got it.

You are playing with fire by tickling the toes the likes of AOC, a fan. Any company including your company is subject to their whims.

[a fan]

I'm no fan of deals to attract companies, but that is not and was not AOC's beef...AOC simply hates capitalism, full stop.

That said, your analysis is one-dimensional.

Amazon would have generated $27.5 billion in state and city revenue over 25 years, a 9:1 ratio of revenue to subsidies

Great. So then you'd give every business in NYC a 9:1 ratio of tax revenue to subsidies? Nope. Of course not. Amazon is the only business in the history of the world that has employees who go out for lunch at a local restaurant.


You don't get it. Every business has employees that shop, eat, etc. in the community, Pete. Amazon isn't some magic company.

Give every business the same deal.....or stop complaining that AOC is anti capitalist. YOU are the one who thinks Amazon should pay lower taxes because you think they're magic.



I told you this before, and cited this for cradleandshoot last year. In 1980, before guys like you came along, and sold politicians on the idea that corporations need tax breaks "because they make up the lost tax money somewhere else"? Corporate tax made up 60% of NYSTate revenue, and citizens' taxes made up about 20%.

Fast forward to 2020? It's reversed. Now citizens make up 60% of tax revenue, and Corporate tax makes up just 20% of total NYSTate revenue.

Pretty simple stuff Pete. You're selling trickle down economics. And as you've been told again, and again and again: what "trickle down economics" REALLY means is that multinational corporations are peeing on the common man. And you folks just keep asking for more, and yet gee whiz golly, can't figure out why taxes in NYSTate for regular workers are so freaking high.

They're high because corporations stopped paying their fair share. So Amazon gets a pass, and some poor barber who owns a shop in Rochester gets to pay their share for them.

Wake up. Stop doing this.

[Peter Brown]

I'm no fan of deals to attract companies, but that is not and was not AOC's beef...AOC simply hates capitalism, full stop.

That said, your analysis is one-dimensional.

Amazon would have generated $27.5 billion in state and city revenue over 25 years, a 9:1 ratio of revenue to subsidies

Great. So then you'd give every business in NYC a 9:1 ratio of tax revenue to subsidies? Nope. Of course not. Amazon is the only business in the history of the world that has employees who go out for lunch at a local restaurant.


You don't get it. Every business has employees that shop, eat, etc. in the community, Pete. Amazon isn't some magic company.

Give every business the same deal.....or stop complaining that AOC is anti capitalist. YOU are the one who thinks Amazon should pay lower taxes because you think they're magic.



I told you this before, and cited this for cradleandshoot last year. In 1980, before guys like you came along, and sold politicians on the idea that corporations need tax breaks "because they make up the lost tax money somewhere else"? Corporate tax made up 60% of NYSTate revenue, and citizens' taxes made up about 20%.

Fast forward to 2020? It's reversed. Now citizens make up 60% of tax revenue, and Corporate tax makes up just 20% of total NYSTate revenue.

Pretty simple stuff Pete. You're selling trickle down economics. And as you've been told again, and again and again: what "trickle down economics" REALLY means is that multinational corporations are peeing on the common man. And you folks just keep asking for more, and yet gee whiz golly, can't figure out why taxes in NYSTate for regular workers are so freaking high.

They're high because corporations stopped paying their fair share. So Amazon gets a pass, and some poor barber who owns a shop in Rochester gets to pay their share for them.

Wake up. Stop doing this.

Me? Wake up? Are you familiar with AOC's platform?

https://www.ocasiocortez.com/issues

https://www.dsausa.org/

Have fun when they come for Leopold's! What's fair is fair!

[a fan]

Me? Wake up? Are you familiar with AOC's platform?

https://www.ocasiocortez.com/issues

https://www.dsausa.org/

Have fun when they come for Leopold's! What's fair is fair!

All this post tells me is that your own company execs have your Senators on speed dial, and your company gets these sweetheart deals right now.

Your type has ALREADY "come for Leopolds", because guys like you think it makes sense for me to pay Amazon's taxes for them.

If I got your laughable 9:1 subsidy metric? I'd be retired by now, with several million dollars stowed away.

Get it? I ALREADY got screwed by crony capitalism. AOC doesn't scare me, and isn't the one who is fleecing me. McConnell, Pelosi, and Trump have already come and taken their pound of flesh....

So you don't have to wake up, obviously.....crony capitalism serves YOUR interests, Pete.

Enjoy it, I guess!

[wgdsr]

I'm no fan of deals to attract companies, but that is not and was not AOC's beef...AOC simply hates capitalism, full stop.

That said, your analysis is one-dimensional.

Amazon would have generated $27.5 billion in state and city revenue over 25 years, a 9:1 ratio of revenue to subsidies

Great. So then you'd give every business in NYC a 9:1 ratio of tax revenue to subsidies? Nope. Of course not. Amazon is the only business in the history of the world that has employees who go out for lunch at a local restaurant.

You don't get it. Every business has employees that shop, eat, etc. in the community, Pete. Amazon isn't some magic company.

Give every business the same deal.....or stop complaining that AOC is anti capitalist. YOU are the one who thinks Amazon should pay lower taxes because you think they're magic.

I told you this before, and cited this for cradleandshoot last year. In 1980, before guys like you came along, and sold politicians on the idea that corporations need tax breaks "because they make up the lost tax money somewhere else"? Corporate tax made up 60% of NYSTate revenue, and citizens' taxes made up about 20%.

Fast forward to 2020? It's reversed. Now citizens make up 60% of tax revenue, and Corporate tax makes up just 20% of total NYSTate revenue.

Pretty simple stuff Pete. You're selling trickle down economics. And as you've been told again, and again and again: what "trickle down economics" REALLY means is that multinational corporations are peeing on the common man. And you folks just keep asking for more, and yet gee whiz golly, can't figure out why taxes in NYSTate for regular workers are so freaking high.

They're high because corporations stopped paying their fair share. So Amazon gets a pass, and some poor barber who owns a shop in Rochester gets to pay their share for them.

Wake up. Stop doing this.

Me? Wake up? Are you familiar with AOC's platform?

https://www.ocasiocortez.com/issues

https://www.dsausa.org/

Have fun when they come for Leopold's! What's fair is fair!

the reality is more complicated. in upstate, even with the lower wage base, companies like ge and ibm were getting hammered on state taxes vs. what they could be paying in their new competition in other states. who beat nys to the punch in offering tax incentives. as the payroll could be filled in those states with people there or willing to relocate, companies bailed. there and overseas. as the corporate base shrunk, new york had to start nicking their citizens.
works fine with the allure of nyc, especially with the financial and advertising and media sect, but not so much for corporate manufacturing. then new york was bleeding.
so then they tried tax breaks. new york's been behind the curve and chasing for decades.

it'd be cool if someone in government could be appointed a tax czar. to the cabinet or wherever. and not be beholden to anyone. easier done than re-writing corporate influence in washington. some kind of line needs to be drawn between gaap and non-gaap earnings and investment and credits and incentives and on and on.

not for nothing, but as we speak, biden speaks about his public schooling vs trump and corporate taxes.

[a fan]

. as the corporate base shrunk, new york had to start nicking their citizens.

And all small businesses, who pay the taxes for the corporations who get a break.

So then when someone like me looks at opening a plant in NY? I say "wow, those are high taxes". And the ENTIRE REASON those taxes are so high for nobodies like me is that corporations aren't paying doodly. So I make up the difference with jacked up rates. And Amazon laughs all the way to the bank, and pockets my money.

It's a race to the bottom. And the thing is, politicians KNOW it's a race to the bottom. But the money from these multinational corporations pay for their campaigns, so....we're out of luck.

it'd be cool if someone in government could be appointed a tax czar. to the cabinet or wherever. and not be beholden to anyone. easier done than re-writing corporate influence in washington.

Or just scrap the whole stupid, entirely corrupt tax system, and replace it with a flat consumption tax, and solve the problem. Then everyone pays the same rate.

[old salt]

And some dogs are bred for aggression, bite force, strength, stamina, size, ability to herd, and more. Dogs are all individuals, but breeds share similar traits. Nature + nurture, like so much in life.

What breed attacked Diane Whipple ?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics ... ting-dogs/

Twelve years ago, 47 dogs were rescued from Michael Vick’s dogfighting operation and allowed to live. They've enriched the lives of countless humans and altered the course of animal welfare.

...for 47 dogs pulled from Bad Newz Kennels, there was another, less publicized development that helped change how dogs taken in large-scale dogfighting busts are treated. Rather than being euthanized, the Vick dogs were given a chance to live.

The dogs became ambassadors, tail-wagging proof of what’s possible through rescue and rehabilitation. In doing so, they changed how the public — and some prominent rescue organizations — view dogs freed from fighting rings. Dogfighting remains prevalent, but now, in large part thanks to these dogs, others seized in fight busts are evaluated to see if they can become pets.

The Washington Post tracked down all 47 dogs and compiled a comprehensive look into their post-adoption lives and the families they joined. They landed in homes from California to Rhode Island, embraced by people with jobs ranging from preschool teacher to attorney.

Some of the dogs struggled to heal emotionally and remained fearful through their lives. But they all found homes far more loving than the horror-film kennel that made headlines around the globe.