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. ...Wag the Goat ?Face saving to make it appear everyone was on the same sheet of music before hand. They clearly weren't! Why did the military claim they had no idea before the event that this was going to happen? They were surprised. Now you guys want to make this sound like it was a plan. Sure it was.old salt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:25 pm.
Pompeo, Esper & Milley disagree. They were on the call & recommended pulling back the tethered goats.
Jeffrey testified that they'd been preparing for this contingency since last Dec.
Leaving the observers in place would not have deterred the Turks incursion.
Nope.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:33 am The newest old standard was sentence first, trial second. Now it's sentence first, no trial at all. Salem witch trials are back in vogue.
That checks and balances in government will persist. Would you rather it not? (serious question)
Same thing that came out turning over rocks with the Benghazi "investigation". A "gotcha" moment.
So the impeachment is a checks and balances, process-oriented thing, rather than goal specific action?Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:37 pmThat checks and balances in government will persist. Would you rather it not? (serious question)
Agreed. And the resist, protest, and delay tactics were another thing we did to ourselves.a fan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:38 pmSame thing that came out turning over rocks with the Benghazi "investigation". A "gotcha" moment.
If you asked 1,000 Americans, I'd bet not one of them could tell you that it was the Benghazi investigation that found Hillary's server.
That investigation worked, and took Hillary down.
So it's funny watching all these Republicans clutching at pearls, feigning outrage over this stuff.
What comes around goes around, like it or not. The Republicans put together the blueprint, and Pelosi if following the prints. OF COURSE the Dems are going to do this. Every future Congress will find a way to do this to their political enemies.
We did this to ourselves.
a fan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:34 pmNope.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:33 am The newest old standard was sentence first, trial second. Now it's sentence first, no trial at all. Salem witch trials are back in vogue.
The "old standard" for both Clinton and Nixon was: the Attorney General appointed an independent prosecutor a FULL YEAR before impeachment proceedings started. And, of course, even longer for Ken Starr's game.
I'm guessing that neither you nor anyone else making this fake complaint about protocol will direct their ire, in their longing for "doing it the right way" to AG Barr, where it belongs. What you should be asking is: Why isn't Attorney General Barr launching an investigation?
And, of course, we all know why. Barr is compromised. Plain as day.
You just want to fling poo at Pelosi, and have zero interest in actual protocol.
)According to Jeffrey's testimony, they were all (including Trump) surprised by Eredogan's abrupt decision to move.jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:31 pmFace saving to make it appear everyone was on the same sheet of music before hand. They clearly weren't! Why did the military claim they had no idea before the event that this was going to happen? They were surprised. Now you guys want to make this sound like it was a plan. Sure it was.old salt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:25 pm.
Pompeo, Esper & Milley disagree. They were on the call & recommended pulling back the tethered goats.
Jeffrey testified that they'd been preparing for this contingency since last Dec.
Leaving the observers in place would not have deterred the Turks incursion.
None of us used public money to buy personal political favors from foreign governments. Trump is not to be normalized; he really is a special kind of mistake.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:46 pmAgreed. And the resist, protest, and delay tactics were another thing we did to ourselves.a fan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:38 pmSame thing that came out turning over rocks with the Benghazi "investigation". A "gotcha" moment.
If you asked 1,000 Americans, I'd bet not one of them could tell you that it was the Benghazi investigation that found Hillary's server.
That investigation worked, and took Hillary down.
So it's funny watching all these Republicans clutching at pearls, feigning outrage over this stuff.
What comes around goes around, like it or not. The Republicans put together the blueprint, and Pelosi if following the prints. OF COURSE the Dems are going to do this. Every future Congress will find a way to do this to their political enemies.
We did this to ourselves.
Yup. Barking seals, balancing balls on their noses.seacoaster wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:48 pm https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... culation=1
Do they not understand he thinks of them as circus performers?
I was referring to congress (on both sides) normalizing that tactic.seacoaster wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:57 pmNone of us used public money to buy personal political favors from foreign governments. Trump is not to be normalized; he really is a special kind of mistake.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:46 pmAgreed. And the resist, protest, and delay tactics were another thing we did to ourselves.a fan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:38 pmSame thing that came out turning over rocks with the Benghazi "investigation". A "gotcha" moment.
If you asked 1,000 Americans, I'd bet not one of them could tell you that it was the Benghazi investigation that found Hillary's server.
That investigation worked, and took Hillary down.
So it's funny watching all these Republicans clutching at pearls, feigning outrage over this stuff.
What comes around goes around, like it or not. The Republicans put together the blueprint, and Pelosi if following the prints. OF COURSE the Dems are going to do this. Every future Congress will find a way to do this to their political enemies.
We did this to ourselves.
Well, you are half right.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:55 pm (by the way, am I allowed to think both Nancy Pelosi and Bob Barr are really good people doing their level best?...cause I do
old salt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:57 pm According to Jeffrey's testimony, they were all (including Trump) surprised by Eredogan's abrupt decision to move.
It was a fair warning notification, not a negotiation.
All military to military & diplomat to diplomat indications were that the Joint Security Mechanism was holding & satisfactory.
You didn’t ask what it was. You asked what does one expect to come of it. I listed one possibility....Btw, impeachment is a process. Not sure it’s simply boiled down to a single event.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:45 pmSo the impeachment is a checks and balances, process-oriented thing, rather than goal specific action?Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:37 pmThat checks and balances in government will persist. Would you rather it not? (serious question)