Race in America - Riots Explode in Chicago

[kramerica.inc]

Did Biden or the Democrats say anything about the violence in the streets during the DNC?
I saw Biden's condemnation a couple days afterwards. But that was after many were shocked they were so hush about it during the convention.

So setting aside Biden's condemnation of the violence, he didn't condemn the violence. That's your position here?

Come on. Pick another complaint that has some semblance of sense. There's plenty to choose from...

This makes complete sense, aFan. We are talking in the RIOTS thread...

Biden did condemn violence but it was after he got lambasted for NOT saying anything during the DNC.

The DNC was literally the democrats chance to tell us ENTIRELY, AS A PARTY, what they stand for.

Condemning the violent protests in the streets was glaringly absent. This issue is dogging the democrats for a reason.

[a fan]

Did Biden or the Democrats say anything about the violence in the streets during the DNC?
I saw Biden's condemnation a couple days afterwards. But that was after many were shocked they were so hush about it during the convention.

So setting aside Biden's condemnation of the violence, he didn't condemn the violence. That's your position here?

Come on. Pick another complaint that has some semblance of sense. There's plenty to choose from...

This makes complete sense, aFan. We are talking in the RIOTS thread...

Biden did condemn violence but it was after he got lambasted for NOT saying anything during the DNC.

He's condemned it MULTIPLE TIMES, Kram.

BTW, you understand where this game of yours leads, right? In other words: did Trump condemn the murdering of black citizens by the government in his RNC speech? Oh my GOSH! He didn't! "Therefore", he MUST condone the murders of black citizens. That BASTARD!

You think this new fake TrumpLand issue will drop if Biden "condemns" the violence every day until the election? No, of course you don't. You know EXACTLY what this is. It's a fake issue, right up there with immigration. Gee---didya notice that's not fixed still? A coincidence, I"m sure.

The DNC was literally the democrats chance to tell us ENTIRELY, AS A PARTY, what they stand for.

And it escaped your attention that the RNC literally didn't have a platform? "Whatever Trump says", is just as swell governing theory.

Condemning the violent protests in the streets was glaringly absent. This issue is dogging the democrats for a reason.

Yes. It's Trump's entire campaign. No immigration reform. No repeal and replace.

His entire gig is: vote for me, and well, the problems of my current Presidency will go away.

I will openly admit that this gig is working, and working well. LOTS of TrumpFans attended Pete's Government Universities, after all.

[6ftstick]

LOTS of TrumpFans attended Pete's Government Universities, after all.

Careful your condescension is showing

[youthathletics]

Conservative America is not lost at sea...it is being attacked by pronoun puppets, and the left/progressive/media driven movement is feeding them ammunition. Stop feeding them and we can get back to splitting hairs about debt, spending, and how MD is a RINO.

Alright. I'll bite.

For 50 years, Federal Republicans have been selling us on these core values:

-free market over market controls
-smallest, most limited Federal government possible
-fiscal responsibility
-private business over government ownership (socialism)


Now you and I know they have governed to only one of these values, generally speaking. Free market over market controls...and this only applies to international trade. And, of course, the Dems have taken this path, too...so it's not exactly a defining trait of the R party.


So you tell me....give me your bullet points as to what they're about. Because from where I sit? All they have are cultural values...which have almost nothing to do with managing our country. So when some here said they were voting for Trump because he was "sick of PC culture"? How the F is Trump going to put a stop to that?

You have the floor. What are the National R's about?

Not sure I see Small gov't on here..unless you are referring to a more symbiotic relationship with the states...as Trump displayed during CV-19 (Check), nor any arguments against being fiscally responsible...they are against fully funded govt welfare(Check), the last one.....what is there to discuss that is obvious.

[a fan]

Careful your condescension is showing

Nope. Sorry mate, that's on you. And Pete. And all the rest here who think that government is inherently bad, and inferior to private ownership.

I'm MAKING FUN of this attitude, 6ft. So either you and Pete need to admit that government---and socialism------ can, and does, function just fine....or you need to tell me that you think an education at the U of Florida or the U of Virginia is inherently inferior to any private education.

Your choice, my man. Which one do you choose?

You, Pete, and millions of conservatives want it both ways. "Government is bad, unless it's MY University"

It's just silly. And as I said to Pete? I'd wager every cent I own that it never occurred to millions and millions of Public University grads that they were educated by socialists-----their government. It's pretty hilarious, and explains SO MUCH about fake conservative American culture.

[a fan]

Not sure I see Small gov't on here..unless you are referring to a more symbiotic relationship with the states...as Trump displayed during CV-19 (Check), nor any arguments against being fiscally responsible...they are against fully funded govt welfare(Check), the last one.....what is there to discuss that is obvious.

Wikipedia? I want to hear what YOU think, YA.

Government welfare? Dude. We're spending more on handouts than ever. You don't get to drop a check there. Trump made it WORSE. Why do you think we're running such a huge deficit? Handouts to people who didn't pay for them. Medicare is the A#1 culprit.

What do YOU think they're for, if you think I'm so wrong. It's sounding like you can't tell me.....

[youthathletics]

Not sure I see Small gov't on here..unless you are referring to a more symbiotic relationship with the states...as Trump displayed during CV-19 (Check), nor any arguments against being fiscally responsible...they are against fully funded govt welfare(Check), the last one.....what is there to discuss that is obvious.

Wikipedia? I want to hear what YOU think, YA.

Government welfare? Dude. We're spending more on handouts than ever. You don't get to drop a check there. Trump made it WORSE. Why do you think we're running such a huge deficit? Handouts to people who didn't pay for them. Medicare is the A#1 culprit.

What do YOU think they're for, if you think I'm so wrong. It's sounding like you can't tell me.....

You are using CV-19 cash as an argument (assuming that is what you are implying) and major investments/replenishment in Military. I believe you are also setting up a circular argument b/c we both believe Trump leans D and has caved to their spending...first go around. Ironic we have not heard much lately about another shot of cash...going on 4 plus weeks overdue.

Here are a quick handful...

~ Military spending can never be enough. to include R&D, readiness, safety and personnel support.
~ As noted earlier, Allow the states to run as close to private entities as possible.
~ Against abortion
~ Believe that God was a guiding principle in our Constitution
~ Fiscally responsible as it relates to public/national safety issues
~ Not supportive of continual handouts/gaming the system.

[holmes435]

Not sure I see Small gov't on here..unless you are referring to a more symbiotic relationship with the states...as Trump displayed during CV-19 (Check), nor any arguments against being fiscally responsible...they are against fully funded govt welfare(Check), the last one.....what is there to discuss that is obvious.

Here's the GOP platform itself, rather than wiki: https://www.gop.com/platform/

On Page i - the Preamble

We believe our constitutional system — limited government, separation of powers, federalism, and the rights of the people — must be preserved uncompromised for future generations."

[Typical Lax Dad]

Not sure I see Small gov't on here..unless you are referring to a more symbiotic relationship with the states...as Trump displayed during CV-19 (Check), nor any arguments against being fiscally responsible...they are against fully funded govt welfare(Check), the last one.....what is there to discuss that is obvious.

Wikipedia? I want to hear what YOU think, YA.

Government welfare? Dude. We're spending more on handouts than ever. You don't get to drop a check there. Trump made it WORSE. Why do you think we're running such a huge deficit? Handouts to people who didn't pay for them. Medicare is the A#1 culprit.

What do YOU think they're for, if you think I'm so wrong. It's sounding like you can't tell me.....

We are also the chosen people.

[a fan]

You are using CV-19 cash as an argument (assuming that is what you are implying) and major investments/replenishment in Military.

I am most certainly not. And this, of course, is the game you're going to get from Republicans for decades.

"All that spending was because of Covid". Buffalo Bagels. Trump passed four spending bills, totaling about $3.7 trillion in new spending. $700 Billion was for military. The rest? Bullcookies----handouts to flyover States to keep the lights on while voters don't notice so TrumpFans could pretend that the reason the economy was doing well was Trump. Nope. Borrowed money, handed out to States. That's what did it. Cut spending for two years, and watch what happens to flyover America.

I believe you are also setting up a circular argument b/c we both believe Trump leans D and has caved to their spending

Nope. It's not "their spending". That's the Republican game. Any spending that isn't military is blamed on the Dems....and this asinine game works, of course. Because $3 Trillion in new spending doesn't flood into Republican States.

Military spending can never be enough. to include R&D, readiness, safety and personnel support.

Yep. But they don't want to pay for said spending.

~ As noted earlier, Allow the states to run as close to private entities as possible.

That hasn't happened for 40 years. The game is: the Fed borrows money from the populated States, and sends it to the unpopulated States so that they can claim taxes are low....meanwhile, Federal spending is making up for the lack of State taxation. So for these States? Their ENTIRE economy is based on that Federal spending. So for example? Cut the ~half billion dollars they send to the University of Alabama, or the University of Michigan for "R&D"...and watch those Universities fall completely apart.

~ Against abortion

That demographic ship sailed in the 2000's. Half of Registered Republicans are ok with abortion, with reasonable limitations. Gallup put that number at 55% just last year, among registered Republicans.

~ Believe that God was a guiding principle in our Constitution

I have no clue where this came from.

~ Fiscally responsible as it relates to public/national safety issues

? I don't understand what this means.

~ Not supportive of continual handouts/gaming the system.

And yet handouts have exploded. So has gaming the system. They've ENABLED MORE handouts every chance they have gotten. So this one is out, too.

So as far as I can tell? You think Republicans are for military spending, and that's it.

[youthathletics]

Not sure I see Small gov't on here..unless you are referring to a more symbiotic relationship with the states...as Trump displayed during CV-19 (Check), nor any arguments against being fiscally responsible...they are against fully funded govt welfare(Check), the last one.....what is there to discuss that is obvious.

Here's the GOP platform itself, rather than wiki: https://www.gop.com/platform/

On Page i - the Preamble

We believe our constitutional system — limited government, separation of powers, federalism, and the rights of the people — must be preserved uncompromised for future generations."

Yes, limited gov't.....as in limited intrusiveness, not inserting themselves, loosening restrictions, etc. Afan asserts that to mean size, quantity, $$$.

[youthathletics]

Trump passed four spending bills, totaling about $3.7 trillion in new spending. $700 Billion was for military. The rest? Bullcookies----handouts to flyover States to keep the lights on while voters don't notice so TrumpFans could pretend that the reason the economy was doing well was Trump. Nope. Borrowed money, handed out to States. That's what did it. Cut spending for two years, and watch what happens to flyover America.

Who's spending bill was it? The bastids on each side and it gave Nancy and Chuck everything they wanted. In my cynical opinion, the left was trying to milk his ass for everything they could and the right was like eff it, im gonna gets mine too.

That's the Republican game. Any spending that isn't military is blamed on the Dems....and this asinine game works, of course.

Sorry, not buying it. You against the farmers now...of course not. Infrastructure spending aint helping them either. We do need to eat, no?

As noted again...remember how the citizen right was pissed at Trump for signing that bill. Trump was also pissed he had to sign it but had to keep the doors open to .gov. (hint - deficit spending does not matter, except during election bickering...you won't concede that point b/c it makes zero logical sense) Maybe if we go full socialist we can solve our deceit spending.

And yet handouts have exploded. So has gaming the system. They've ENABLED MORE handouts every chance they have gotten. So this one is out, too.

So as far as I can tell? You think Republicans are for military spending, and that's it.

You are not a very good listener....do you own your own business by chance?

[6ftstick]

Lets play who's the fascist?

https://www.facebook.com/Breitbart/vide ... 2860891146

You're enabling such lovely peaceful lil children.

Defund the police.

[youthathletics]

Ruining their cause, anger & not being able to forgive will tear up up inside.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Lets play who's the fascist?

https://www.facebook.com/Breitbart/vide ... 2860891146

You're enabling such lovely peaceful lil children.

Defund the police.

Like these

[holmes435]

Not sure I see Small gov't on here..unless you are referring to a more symbiotic relationship with the states...as Trump displayed during CV-19 (Check), nor any arguments against being fiscally responsible...they are against fully funded govt welfare(Check), the last one.....what is there to discuss that is obvious.

Here's the GOP platform itself, rather than wiki: https://www.gop.com/platform/

On Page i - the Preamble

We believe our constitutional system — limited government, separation of powers, federalism, and the rights of the people — must be preserved uncompromised for future generations."

Yes, limited gov't.....as in limited intrusiveness, not inserting themselves, loosening restrictions, etc. Afan asserts that to mean size, quantity, $$$.

Well that's certainly your definition, and you're entitled to it as I suppose it's a matter of interpretation. One of the top definitions of limited is "restricted in size, amount, or extent; few, small, or short."

The GOP doesn't really go on to explain if it means limited in size, limited in scope to mean they're ok with a large government RE the military and other aspects, but small in some. There might be a more detailed explanation in that platform, but I haven't gone over it with a fine-toothed comb.

Historically you have Republicans advocating for smaller government. Hence the "I don't want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub" type quotes you saw for a number of decades.

[a fan]

Not sure I see Small gov't on here..unless you are referring to a more symbiotic relationship with the states...as Trump displayed during CV-19 (Check), nor any arguments against being fiscally responsible...they are against fully funded govt welfare(Check), the last one.....what is there to discuss that is obvious.

Here's the GOP platform itself, rather than wiki: https://www.gop.com/platform/

On Page i - the Preamble

We believe our constitutional system — limited government, separation of powers, federalism, and the rights of the people — must be preserved uncompromised for future generations."

Yes, limited gov't.....as in limited intrusiveness, not inserting themselves, loosening restrictions, etc. Afan asserts that to mean size, quantity, $$$.

Been in business for over 20 years. I can't name one single solitary regulation that a Republican has removed that costs me money, and does next to nothing in return. And remember, I deal with taxes and licenses in over 20 States.

And yet YOU think that's just a coincidence that I can't name an eliminated regulation? And that no one else can name a pulled regulation either?


Remember Hogan's panel on dismantling regulations? Guess what happened? Outside of eliminating the need for a barber license?

Nothing. It's a lie. I REALLY thought he'd go after it....and eventually become President based on how much reasonable people like his administration.


Speaking of listening, you haven't noticed why my complaints are directed at Republicans so much over the last 20 years.....

If they actually did what they claimed? Making life easier for business, limiting government interference, focus on infrastructure and basic government services, etc.?

I'd be the biggest Republican you ever met in your life! Wouldn't even bother reading candidates names, and would vote straight Republican ticket every freaking time.

But instead? It's all a freaking lie, and it gets worse every year.

[youthathletics]

Not sure I see Small gov't on here..unless you are referring to a more symbiotic relationship with the states...as Trump displayed during CV-19 (Check), nor any arguments against being fiscally responsible...they are against fully funded govt welfare(Check), the last one.....what is there to discuss that is obvious.

Here's the GOP platform itself, rather than wiki: https://www.gop.com/platform/

On Page i - the Preamble

We believe our constitutional system — limited government, separation of powers, federalism, and the rights of the people — must be preserved uncompromised for future generations."

Yes, limited gov't.....as in limited intrusiveness, not inserting themselves, loosening restrictions, etc. Afan asserts that to mean size, quantity, $$$.

Been in business for over 20 years. I can't name one single solitary regulation that a Republican has removed that costs me money, and does next to nothing in return. And remember, I deal with taxes and licenses in over 20 States.

And yet YOU think that's just a coincidence that I can't name an eliminated regulation? And that no one else can name a pulled regulation either?


Remember Hogan's panel on dismantling regulations? Guess what happened? Outside of eliminating the need for a barber license?

Nothing. It's a lie. I REALLY thought he'd go after it....and eventually become President based on how much reasonable people like his administration.


Speaking of listening, you haven't noticed why my complaints are directed at Republicans so much over the last 20 years.....

If they actually did what they claimed? Making life easier for business, limiting government interference, focus on infrastructure and basic government services, etc.?

I'd be the biggest Republican you ever met in your life! Wouldn't even bother reading candidates names, and would vote straight Republican ticket every freaking time.

But instead? It's all a freaking lie, and it gets worse every year.

So fattylax has been right all along. #TAATS

[6ftstick]

Lets play who's the fascist?

https://www.facebook.com/Breitbart/vide ... 2860891146

You're enabling such lovely peaceful lil children.

Defund the police.

Like these

You had to go back 60 years for yours

[Typical Lax Dad]

Lets play who's the fascist?

https://www.facebook.com/Breitbart/vide ... 2860891146

You're enabling such lovely peaceful lil children.

Defund the police.

Like these

You had to go back 60 years for yours