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cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:28 am

seacoaster wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:42 pm If Walker was a Democrat, I would like to think I'd be asking, mortified, "Can we not do better than this guy?"

Even if he was running against a Republican?? Are you saying that in this instance you would support the Republican??? I always believed that the ideologies of BOTH parties was rock solid. The worst candidate of your party was always superior to the best candidate of their party... If your a Democrat and the other parties candidate happens to be a black man it becomes very hard for you as a white liberal to criticize the black candidate without being labeled a racist. Your party created these ground rules, it sucks to no end when you have to play by them. I am enjoying reading all the posts from you FLP folks trying to tap dance around your own hypocrisy. If Herschel Walker was running as a FLP you all would be singing the praises of all the obstacles he has had to overcome in his life. So i can introduce a tangential topic here. The FLP leadership of SUNY Brockport invited a convicted cop killer on campus to "share his perspective" as a political prisoner after murdering 2 police officers. I introduced this topic in another thread. I figured a bunch of the "usual FLP suspects" would chime in and tell me what a racist white guy i was. Even the always never at a loss for words MD Lax had nothing to say. If this murdering cop killing SOB can be respected for his "PERSPECTIVE ON MURDERING A COP" and invited to share his perspective from a salivating group of FLP supporters then Herschel Walker is more than capable of being the US Senator from Georgia. The door is open here all you Fanlax folks... what say you???

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:38 am

CU88 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 7:54 am Funny how those who complain about immigrants maintaining their cultural heritage in America are never talking about St. Patrick's Day.

So I'm guessing you don't like corn beef and cabbage as well? I'm Irish and German by my heritage. My grandmother, whose relatives came off the boat from Ireland never ate corn beef and cabbage as a traditional food. They were potato people, hence why the Irish potato rot forced them to immigrate to the US. The German side of me still loves Knockwurst, Kraut and potatoes and carrots. Maybe you should look in the fields for a 4 leaf clover and see if there is a pot o gold at the end of the rainbow. In doing so you better not tick off any Leprechauns in the process.

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:28 am

seacoaster wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:42 pm If Walker was a Democrat, I would like to think I'd be asking, mortified, "Can we not do better than this guy?"

Even if he was running against a Republican?? Are you saying that in this instance you would support the Republican??? I always believed that the ideologies of BOTH parties was rock solid. The worst candidate of your party was always superior to the best candidate of their party... If your a Democrat and the other parties candidate happens to be a black man it becomes very hard for you as a white liberal to criticize the black candidate without being labeled a racist. Your party created these ground rules, it sucks to no end when you have to play by them. I am enjoying reading all the posts from you FLP folks trying to tap dance around your own hypocrisy. If Herschel Walker was running as a FLP you all would be singing the praises of all the obstacles he has had to overcome in his life. So i can introduce a tangential topic here. The FLP leadership of SUNY Brockport invited a convicted cop killer on campus to "share his perspective" as a political prisoner after murdering 2 police officers. I introduced this topic in another thread. I figured a bunch of the "usual FLP suspects" would chime in and tell me what a racist white guy i was. Even the always never at a loss for words MD Lax had nothing to say. If this murdering cop killing SOB can be respected for his "PERSPECTIVE ON MURDERING A COP" and invited to share his perspective from a salivating group of FLP supporters then Herschel Walker is more than capable of being the US Senator from Georgia. The door is open here all you Fanlax folks... what say you???

CU88 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 7:54 am Funny how those who complain about immigrants maintaining their cultural heritage in America are never talking about St. Patrick's Day.

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:53 am

CU88 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 7:54 am Funny how those who complain about immigrants maintaining their cultural heritage in America are never talking about St. Patrick's Day.

Well since this occurred 100-200 years ago, why would anyone complain? No one ‘complains’ today about the Cuban immigration of the 1950’s.

Every wave of immigration gets pushback because of an economic shock, to keep the politicians honest and accountable; after a period of time, no one really notices.

Only Democrats natch try to make immigration racial, when the evidence suggests that race has never been at the hart of any immigration resistance, it’s always economic.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:21 am

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:53 am

CU88 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 7:54 am Funny how those who complain about immigrants maintaining their cultural heritage in America are never talking about St. Patrick's Day.

Well since this occurred 100-200 years ago, why would anyone complain? No one ‘complains’ today about the Cuban immigration of the 1950’s.

Every wave of immigration gets pushback because of an economic shock, to keep the politicians honest and accountable; after a period of time, no one really notices.

Only Democrats natch try to make immigration racial, when the evidence suggests that race has never been at the hart of any immigration resistance, it’s always economic.

hmmm, it's not binary.

The resistance to immigration in the US has ALWAYS included racist or ethnic or religious slurs. I can't think of ANY large immigration wave in the US that didn't include such as a major component in the resistance to it.

It is also true that immigration has also been perceived by some as an economic threat to current pop, though the reality is that it's always been a boost economically overall. But it does mean short term competition in the under or working classes throughout history as well.

seacoaster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:21 amObtuse.

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:51 am

seacoaster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:21 amObtuse.

You describing your tolerance for a differing opinion than that of your own? This isn't a court case, counselor. Stop dismissing everything that doesn't subscribe to your worldview as "obtuse, moronic, boycott stupid" Do you know how silly that sounds when you do that?. Inability to separate from that mindset, try it just once. Your not furthering the conversation with these retorts.

Joe

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:31 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:21 am

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:53 am

CU88 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 7:54 am Funny how those who complain about immigrants maintaining their cultural heritage in America are never talking about St. Patrick's Day.

Well since this occurred 100-200 years ago, why would anyone complain? No one ‘complains’ today about the Cuban immigration of the 1950’s.

Every wave of immigration gets pushback because of an economic shock, to keep the politicians honest and accountable; after a period of time, no one really notices.

Only Democrats natch try to make immigration racial, when the evidence suggests that race has never been at the hart of any immigration resistance, it’s always economic.

hmmm, it's not binary.

The resistance to immigration in the US has ALWAYS included racist or ethnic or religious slurs. I can't think of ANY large immigration wave in the US that didn't include such as a major component in the resistance to it.

It is also true that immigration has also been perceived by some as an economic threat to current pop, though the reality is that it's always been a boost economically overall. But it does mean short term competition in the under or working classes throughout history as well.

Race is the convenient excuse by both liberals and the affected working class, but the heart of immigration resistance has always been economic.

The only newer twist has been awareness of crime. When Kate Steinle was murdered by an illegal alien, few knew that this man had been convicted seven times for felonies, and deported several times. The local progressive DA refused to work with ICE and honor their detainers Then a San Francisco jury found him not guilty, even though everyone acknowledged he shot Kate. Then, a federal jury found him incompetent to stand trial in a federal case.

You can imagine why Americans are now refusing to support Democrats; this country can not become West Baltimore.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:03 am

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:51 am

seacoaster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:21 amObtuse.

You describing your tolerance for a differing opinion than that of your own? This isn't a court case, counselor. Stop dismissing everything that doesn't subscribe to your worldview as "obtuse, moronic, boycott stupid" Do you know how silly that sounds when you do that?. Inability to separate from that mindset, try it just once. Your not furthering the conversation with these retorts.

Joe

mmm, might not want to go there, Joe.
seacoaster is one of the more restrained, as well as thoughtful, posters on here.
His objection is partisan misinformation, trolling etc.
Not disagreement with an opinion.

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:28 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:03 am

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:51 am

seacoaster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:21 amObtuse.

You describing your tolerance for a differing opinion than that of your own? This isn't a court case, counselor. Stop dismissing everything that doesn't subscribe to your worldview as "obtuse, moronic, boycott stupid" Do you know how silly that sounds when you do that?. Inability to separate from that mindset, try it just once. Your not furthering the conversation with these retorts.

Joe

mmm, might not want to go there, Joe.
seacoaster is one of the more restrained, as well as thoughtful, posters on here.
His objection is partisan misinformation, trolling etc.
Not disagreement with an opinion.

Then object to it in a mature manner. Remember, that's what YOU and HIM think it is, partisan misinformation, trolling, etc. There may be countless others who read these threads but never respond who DON'T see it that way. My point is simply, it's not your or his job to be the thought police. It just seems from my perspective that thishas been ratcheted up these past four months. It's an online thread, you have NO idea what a poster's motivations are. To simply state that everything that you don't agree with or doesn't fit within your worldview its partisan misinformation or trolling, is simply shortsighted at best. It's a basic admission that anything that is posted that doesn't fit within a narrow political ideology will not be tolerated on this forum. That's a bunch of BS, we live in America, where everybody's opinion's MATTERS.

Joe

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:37 am

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:28 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:03 am

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:51 am

seacoaster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:21 amObtuse.

You describing your tolerance for a differing opinion than that of your own? This isn't a court case, counselor. Stop dismissing everything that doesn't subscribe to your worldview as "obtuse, moronic, boycott stupid" Do you know how silly that sounds when you do that?. Inability to separate from that mindset, try it just once. Your not furthering the conversation with these retorts.

Joe

mmm, might not want to go there, Joe.
seacoaster is one of the more restrained, as well as thoughtful, posters on here.
His objection is partisan misinformation, trolling etc.
Not disagreement with an opinion.

Then object to it in a mature manner. Remember, that's what YOU and HIM think it is, partisan misinformation, trolling, etc. There may be countless others who read these threads but never respond who DON'T see it that way. My point is simply, it's not your or his job to be the thought police. It just seems from my perspective that thishas been ratcheted up these past four months. It's an online thread, you have NO idea what a poster's motivations are. To simply state that everything that you don't agree with or doesn't fit within your worldview its partisan misinformation or trolling, is simply shortsighted at best. It's a basic admission that anything that is posted that doesn't fit within a narrow political ideology will not be tolerated on this forum. That's a bunch of BS, we live in America, where everybody's opinion's MATTERS.

Joe

It's the very thing killing us by a 1k cuts. Nuance and authentic discourse, sprinkled with humor, is hanging on by a thread. I know MD senses it....it;s why his replies are often so damned long He's making sure he tells you you are wrong, with lots of words, all while punching you in the belly button.

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:28 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:03 am

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:51 am

seacoaster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:21 amObtuse.

You describing your tolerance for a differing opinion than that of your own? This isn't a court case, counselor. Stop dismissing everything that doesn't subscribe to your worldview as "obtuse, moronic, boycott stupid" Do you know how silly that sounds when you do that?. Inability to separate from that mindset, try it just once. Your not furthering the conversation with these retorts.

Joe

mmm, might not want to go there, Joe.
seacoaster is one of the more restrained, as well as thoughtful, posters on here.
His objection is partisan misinformation, trolling etc.
Not disagreement with an opinion.

Then object to it in a mature manner. Remember, that's what YOU and HIM think it is, partisan misinformation, trolling, etc. There may be countless others who read these threads but never respond who DON'T see it that way. My point is simply, it's not your or his job to be the thought police. It just seems from my perspective that thishas been ratcheted up these past four months. It's an online thread, you have NO idea what a poster's motivations are. To simply state that everything that you don't agree with or doesn't fit within your worldview its partisan misinformation or trolling, is simply shortsighted at best. It's a basic admission that anything that is posted that doesn't fit within a narrow political ideology will not be tolerated on this forum. That's a bunch of BS, we live in America, where everybody's opinion's MATTERS.

Joe

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:15 pm

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:28 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:03 am

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:51 am

seacoaster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:21 amObtuse.

You describing your tolerance for a differing opinion than that of your own? This isn't a court case, counselor. Stop dismissing everything that doesn't subscribe to your worldview as "obtuse, moronic, boycott stupid" Do you know how silly that sounds when you do that?. Inability to separate from that mindset, try it just once. Your not furthering the conversation with these retorts.

Joe

mmm, might not want to go there, Joe.
seacoaster is one of the more restrained, as well as thoughtful, posters on here.
His objection is partisan misinformation, trolling etc.
Not disagreement with an opinion.

Then object to it in a mature manner. Remember, that's what YOU and HIM think it is, partisan misinformation, trolling, etc. There may be countless others who read these threads but never respond who DON'T see it that way. My point is simply, it's not your or his job to be the thought police. It just seems from my perspective that thishas been ratcheted up these past four months. It's an online thread, you have NO idea what a poster's motivations are. To simply state that everything that you don't agree with or doesn't fit within your worldview its partisan misinformation or trolling, is simply shortsighted at best. It's a basic admission that anything that is posted that doesn't fit within a narrow political ideology will not be tolerated on this forum. That's a bunch of BS, we live in America, where everybody's opinion's MATTERS.

Joe

Joe, he commented a single word "obtuse", presumably to Petey's statement that racism hasn't ever been at the heart of the resistance to past immigration waves, it's merely been about economics...and then his comment about crime being a new objection, a new awareness not in previous immigration waves. That's ridiculous on its face, and anyone trying to have a reasonable discussion on here would know that.

seacoaster's one word comment was quite reasonable, following my more detailed response to Petey.

A flaming response would have been far more hyperbolic and nasty...don't imagine that such thoughts don't occur to fellow posters when Petey posts some of his nonsense.

There's tons of room on here for contrary opinions, but if someone posts something clearly, provably factually inaccurate, it undermines the rational discussion that people actually benefit from having.

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:53 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:15 pm

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:28 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:03 am

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:51 am

seacoaster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:21 amObtuse.

You describing your tolerance for a differing opinion than that of your own? This isn't a court case, counselor. Stop dismissing everything that doesn't subscribe to your worldview as "obtuse, moronic, boycott stupid" Do you know how silly that sounds when you do that?. Inability to separate from that mindset, try it just once. Your not furthering the conversation with these retorts.

Joe

mmm, might not want to go there, Joe.
seacoaster is one of the more restrained, as well as thoughtful, posters on here.
His objection is partisan misinformation, trolling etc.
Not disagreement with an opinion.

Then object to it in a mature manner. Remember, that's what YOU and HIM think it is, partisan misinformation, trolling, etc. There may be countless others who read these threads but never respond who DON'T see it that way. My point is simply, it's not your or his job to be the thought police. It just seems from my perspective that thishas been ratcheted up these past four months. It's an online thread, you have NO idea what a poster's motivations are. To simply state that everything that you don't agree with or doesn't fit within your worldview its partisan misinformation or trolling, is simply shortsighted at best. It's a basic admission that anything that is posted that doesn't fit within a narrow political ideology will not be tolerated on this forum. That's a bunch of BS, we live in America, where everybody's opinion's MATTERS.

Joe

Joe, he commented a single word "obtuse", presumably to Petey's statement that racism hasn't ever been at the heart of the resistance to past immigration waves, it's merely been about economics...and then his comment about crime being a new objection, a new awareness not in previous immigration waves. That's ridiculous on its face, and anyone trying to have a reasonable discussion on here would know that.

seacoaster's one word comment was quite reasonable, following my more detailed response to Petey.

A flaming response would have been far more hyperbolic and nasty...don't imagine that such thoughts don't occur to fellow posters when Petey posts some of his nonsense.

There's tons of room on here for contrary opinions, but if someone posts something clearly, provably factually inaccurate, it undermines the rational discussion that people actually benefit from having.

Just for the record, I don’t care if anyone calls me obtuse or dumb or whatever. I always expect that! I’m also forbidden from returning fire, so let ‘er rip!

I do want to thank some great characters on this website for hanging in over the years, against a ferocious liberal onslaught. I want to give my warm thanks to (in no particular order):

Cradle and Shoot
Kramerica
Old Salt
Tech37
Youthathletics
Joe Mauer
Get to it X
RunRussellRun

(Am I missing others? If so, I thank you too)

You guys have done epic work here. I appreciate everything you write.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:15 pm

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:28 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:03 am

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:51 am

seacoaster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:21 amObtuse.

You describing your tolerance for a differing opinion than that of your own? This isn't a court case, counselor. Stop dismissing everything that doesn't subscribe to your worldview as "obtuse, moronic, boycott stupid" Do you know how silly that sounds when you do that?. Inability to separate from that mindset, try it just once. Your not furthering the conversation with these retorts.

Joe

mmm, might not want to go there, Joe.
seacoaster is one of the more restrained, as well as thoughtful, posters on here.
His objection is partisan misinformation, trolling etc.
Not disagreement with an opinion.

Then object to it in a mature manner. Remember, that's what YOU and HIM think it is, partisan misinformation, trolling, etc. There may be countless others who read these threads but never respond who DON'T see it that way. My point is simply, it's not your or his job to be the thought police. It just seems from my perspective that thishas been ratcheted up these past four months. It's an online thread, you have NO idea what a poster's motivations are. To simply state that everything that you don't agree with or doesn't fit within your worldview its partisan misinformation or trolling, is simply shortsighted at best. It's a basic admission that anything that is posted that doesn't fit within a narrow political ideology will not be tolerated on this forum. That's a bunch of BS, we live in America, where everybody's opinion's MATTERS.

Joe

Joe, he commented a single word "obtuse", presumably to Petey's statement that racism hasn't ever been at the heart of the resistance to past immigration waves, it's merely been about economics...and then his comment about crime being a new objection, a new awareness not in previous immigration waves. That's ridiculous on its face, and anyone trying to have a reasonable discussion on here would know that.

seacoaster's one word comment was quite reasonable, following my more detailed response to Petey.

A flaming response would have been far more hyperbolic and nasty...don't imagine that such thoughts don't occur to fellow posters when Petey posts some of his nonsense.

There's tons of room on here for contrary opinions, but if someone posts something clearly, provably factually inaccurate, it undermines the rational discussion that people actually benefit from having.

seacoaster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:17 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:28 am

seacoaster wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:42 pm If Walker was a Democrat, I would like to think I'd be asking, mortified, "Can we not do better than this guy?"

Even if he was running against a Republican?? Are you saying that in this instance you would support the Republican??? I always believed that the ideologies of BOTH parties was rock solid. The worst candidate of your party was always superior to the best candidate of their party... If your a Democrat and the other parties candidate happens to be a black man it becomes very hard for you as a white liberal to criticize the black candidate without being labeled a racist. Your party created these ground rules, it sucks to no end when you have to play by them. I am enjoying reading all the posts from you FLP folks trying to tap dance around your own hypocrisy. If Herschel Walker was running as a FLP you all would be singing the praises of all the obstacles he has had to overcome in his life. So i can introduce a tangential topic here. The FLP leadership of SUNY Brockport invited a convicted cop killer on campus to "share his perspective" as a political prisoner after murdering 2 police officers. I introduced this topic in another thread. I figured a bunch of the "usual FLP suspects" would chime in and tell me what a racist white guy i was. Even the always never at a loss for words MD Lax had nothing to say. If this murdering cop killing SOB can be respected for his "PERSPECTIVE ON MURDERING A COP" and invited to share his perspective from a salivating group of FLP supporters then Herschel Walker is more than capable of being the US Senator from Georgia. The door is open here all you Fanlax folks... what say you???

Of course it depends on the Republican against whom she/he was running. You tend to see my left of center politics as this concrete bunker; it's not. I work with dozens of Republicans, Republicans of another era when the social contract wasn't in near complete upheaval, and have voted for many Republicans over the many years since I turned 18. I lived in Maine for years and voted for Bill Cohen, Olympia Snowe and John McKernan, center right GOP members who weren't slaves to a social agenda and who weren't doing the bidding of a warped national party apparatus. If I lived in Wyoming right now, pretty good chance I'd vote for Cheney, both to reward her for having the pluck and decency to vote to impeach her own party's President and to thwart the national party's overt effort to punish ("cancel"!!) her on account of a vote that, every day and week and month, looks sounder and sounder to anyone listening.

So if Walker was a "Democrat" and his opponent was a center-right person who's purpose in Congress would not be to curtail women's rights, suppress votes of those perceived to be more amenable to the other party, pick on transgender people, and instead had an understanding of how to drive economic policy toward making the pie itself bigger, I would likely vote for her or him. As it is, I am not seeing (among the folks I could vote for here, in my little state) anyone like that, and McConnell anyway has refused to even describe a legislative agenda or platform. You tend to rant a lot about "FLP" politicians and voters and incidents like the SUNY-Brockport thing. But the Democrats are not monolithic, and not even close to controlled by the "Far Left." Biden's Administration is plainly, to anyone really watching with any understanding of the world, a center-left working group, always at pains to keep their left wing satisfied, while fending them off as necessary.

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:02 pm

seacoaster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:17 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:28 am

seacoaster wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:42 pm If Walker was a Democrat, I would like to think I'd be asking, mortified, "Can we not do better than this guy?"

Even if he was running against a Republican?? Are you saying that in this instance you would support the Republican??? I always believed that the ideologies of BOTH parties was rock solid. The worst candidate of your party was always superior to the best candidate of their party... If your a Democrat and the other parties candidate happens to be a black man it becomes very hard for you as a white liberal to criticize the black candidate without being labeled a racist. Your party created these ground rules, it sucks to no end when you have to play by them. I am enjoying reading all the posts from you FLP folks trying to tap dance around your own hypocrisy. If Herschel Walker was running as a FLP you all would be singing the praises of all the obstacles he has had to overcome in his life. So i can introduce a tangential topic here. The FLP leadership of SUNY Brockport invited a convicted cop killer on campus to "share his perspective" as a political prisoner after murdering 2 police officers. I introduced this topic in another thread. I figured a bunch of the "usual FLP suspects" would chime in and tell me what a racist white guy i was. Even the always never at a loss for words MD Lax had nothing to say. If this murdering cop killing SOB can be respected for his "PERSPECTIVE ON MURDERING A COP" and invited to share his perspective from a salivating group of FLP supporters then Herschel Walker is more than capable of being the US Senator from Georgia. The door is open here all you Fanlax folks... what say you???

Of course it depends on the Republican against whom she/he was running. You tend to see my left of center politics as this concrete bunker; it's not. I work with dozens of Republicans, Republicans of another era when the social contract wasn't in near complete upheaval, and have voted for many Republicans over the many years since I turned 18. I lived in Maine for years and voted for Bill Cohen, Olympia Snowe and John McKernan, center right GOP members who weren't slaves to a social agenda and who weren't doing the bidding of a warped national party apparatus. If I lived in Wyoming right now, pretty good chance I'd vote for Cheney, both to reward her for having the pluck and decency to vote to impeach her own party's President and to thwart the national party's overt effort to punish ("cancel"!!) her on account of a vote that, every day and week and month, looks sounder and sounder to anyone listening.

So if Walker was a "Democrat" and his opponent was a center-right person who's purpose in Congress would not be to curtail women's rights, suppress votes of those perceived to be more amenable to the other party, pick on transgender people, and instead had an understanding of how to drive economic policy toward making the pie itself bigger, I would likely vote for her or him. As it is, I am not seeing (among the folks I could vote for here, in my little state) anyone like that, and McConnell anyway has refused to even describe a legislative agenda or platform. You tend to rant a lot about "FLP" politicians and voters and incidents like the SUNY-Brockport thing. But the Democrats are not monolithic, and not even close to controlled by the "Far Left." Biden's Administration is plainly, to anyone really watching with any understanding of the world, a center-left working group, always at pains to keep their left wing satisfied, while fending them off as necessary.

I believe you 100%. My entire point has been the people of Georgia will decide. I don't blame the Georgia Republicans for backing Mr Walker. Politics isn't about electing the most qualified, it is about as the late Al Davis would say... Just win baby.

seacoaster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:05 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:02 pm

seacoaster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:17 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:28 am

seacoaster wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:42 pm If Walker was a Democrat, I would like to think I'd be asking, mortified, "Can we not do better than this guy?"

Even if he was running against a Republican?? Are you saying that in this instance you would support the Republican??? I always believed that the ideologies of BOTH parties was rock solid. The worst candidate of your party was always superior to the best candidate of their party... If your a Democrat and the other parties candidate happens to be a black man it becomes very hard for you as a white liberal to criticize the black candidate without being labeled a racist. Your party created these ground rules, it sucks to no end when you have to play by them. I am enjoying reading all the posts from you FLP folks trying to tap dance around your own hypocrisy. If Herschel Walker was running as a FLP you all would be singing the praises of all the obstacles he has had to overcome in his life. So i can introduce a tangential topic here. The FLP leadership of SUNY Brockport invited a convicted cop killer on campus to "share his perspective" as a political prisoner after murdering 2 police officers. I introduced this topic in another thread. I figured a bunch of the "usual FLP suspects" would chime in and tell me what a racist white guy i was. Even the always never at a loss for words MD Lax had nothing to say. If this murdering cop killing SOB can be respected for his "PERSPECTIVE ON MURDERING A COP" and invited to share his perspective from a salivating group of FLP supporters then Herschel Walker is more than capable of being the US Senator from Georgia. The door is open here all you Fanlax folks... what say you???

Of course it depends on the Republican against whom she/he was running. You tend to see my left of center politics as this concrete bunker; it's not. I work with dozens of Republicans, Republicans of another era when the social contract wasn't in near complete upheaval, and have voted for many Republicans over the many years since I turned 18. I lived in Maine for years and voted for Bill Cohen, Olympia Snowe and John McKernan, center right GOP members who weren't slaves to a social agenda and who weren't doing the bidding of a warped national party apparatus. If I lived in Wyoming right now, pretty good chance I'd vote for Cheney, both to reward her for having the pluck and decency to vote to impeach her own party's President and to thwart the national party's overt effort to punish ("cancel"!!) her on account of a vote that, every day and week and month, looks sounder and sounder to anyone listening.

So if Walker was a "Democrat" and his opponent was a center-right person who's purpose in Congress would not be to curtail women's rights, suppress votes of those perceived to be more amenable to the other party, pick on transgender people, and instead had an understanding of how to drive economic policy toward making the pie itself bigger, I would likely vote for her or him. As it is, I am not seeing (among the folks I could vote for here, in my little state) anyone like that, and McConnell anyway has refused to even describe a legislative agenda or platform. You tend to rant a lot about "FLP" politicians and voters and incidents like the SUNY-Brockport thing. But the Democrats are not monolithic, and not even close to controlled by the "Far Left." Biden's Administration is plainly, to anyone really watching with any understanding of the world, a center-left working group, always at pains to keep their left wing satisfied, while fending them off as necessary.

I believe you 100%. My entire point has been the people of Georgia will decide. I don't blame the Georgia Republicans for backing Mr Walker. Politics isn't about electing the most qualified, it is about as the late Al Davis would say... Just win baby.

Yup, you are so right: it is only about winning and the spoils of winning and holding the office. The basic view is "If I can get a turnip in office to vote in a R (or D) way, that's enough for me."