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wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:14 pmI know you’ll disagree but here’s my take: MTG isn’t smart enough to realize two things: who Nick Fuentes is or what white nationalism is. I tend to give her a pass on so much because honestly, I just don’t think she’s all that bright. Democrats think MTG is some sort of evil woman who’s down with whatever the evil cause of the moment is, but bluntly speaking, she’s not really bright enough to have thoughts beyond her immediate present moment. She just isn’t; I doubt she had ever heard of Nick Fuentes.

That all said, I like a Jennifer a tremendous amount and hope she’s the Republican nominee. Check out her website and Twitter feed. Jennifer Strahan.
Replace MTG with DJT. Proven to be an incompetent businessman too, many times bankrupt, corrupt manipulator of the financial system. Fake as a Zirconium "diamond"...

...and yet, these are the "leaders", the "shining lights" of the current GOP??

Tells you a lot, right?

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dislaxxic wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 10:42 am
wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:14 pmI know you’ll disagree but here’s my take: MTG isn’t smart enough to realize two things: who Nick Fuentes is or what white nationalism is. I tend to give her a pass on so much because honestly, I just don’t think she’s all that bright. Democrats think MTG is some sort of evil woman who’s down with whatever the evil cause of the moment is, but bluntly speaking, she’s not really bright enough to have thoughts beyond her immediate present moment. She just isn’t; I doubt she had ever heard of Nick Fuentes.

That all said, I like a Jennifer a tremendous amount and hope she’s the Republican nominee. Check out her website and Twitter feed. Jennifer Strahan.
Replace MTG with DJT. Proven to be an incompetent, many times bankrupt, corrupt manipulator of the financial system. Fake as a Zirconium "diamond"...

...and yet, these are the "leaders", the "shining lights" of the current GOP??

Tells you a lot, right?

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I mean Romney flat out said it
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How about reporting that Billy Barr calls out Trump for his "personal deficiencies" in his new book. :shock:

Pass the popcorn...wonder if KelleyAnn's boy Ronnie DeSatan will get on THIS bandwagon?? :lol:

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Well it’s disappointing that they get paid, again, for selling the country out for their own interests, but not unsurprising and will be entertaining .
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Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:02 pm Well it’s disappointing that they get paid, again, for selling the country out for their own interests, but not unsurprising and will be entertaining .



Selling the country out for their own interests….

Huh.

Nord Stream 2 since 2020 has paid more than $4.5 million to Roberti Global, a lobbying firm run by Democratic donor and lobbyist Vincent Roberti. Roberti disclosed lobbying on “issues related to the U.S. position toward the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, including potential financial sanctions affecting the project.”

Vincent Roberti, now who is that?!? :o

According to FEC records, Vincent Roberti —one of D.C.’s most powerful lobbyists, and owner of his own firm, Roberti Global — has donated nearly $545,000 to Democratic Party institutions and candidates since 2017, while also bundling nearly $250,000 more. During that same timeframe, Roberti has been paid over $7,700,000 by Nord Stream 2 AG — a Swiss-based company that is 100% owned by Gazprom, the Russian state-owned oil giant in charge of the controversial Nord Stream 2 pipeline project (which the Biden administration will reportedly waive sanctions on).

According to OpenSecrets.org (Center For Responsive Politics), Roberti donated $512,680 exclusively to Democratic institutions such as the Democratic Congressional Campaign
Committee (DCCC) and candidates such as Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Sen. Amy Klobuchar, Rep. Eric Swalwell, and numerous others from 2017 to 2020 — and continues to do so this year, where the K-Street powerhouse has already spent $31,900 funding Democrats up for re-election in 2022, most notably maxing out ($5,800) Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer.

During the 2018 midterm election cycle, Roberti, who started lobbying for Nord Stream 2 in July 2017, donated $72,300 to the DCCC, and $17,475 to their Senatorial counterpart, the DSCC. Roberti also donated the then-maximum $5,400 to Sen. Amy Klobuchar and Rep. Eric Swalwell.

In the run up to the 2020 election, Roberti stepped his game up: he donated $171,000 to the DCCC, $71,000 to the DSCC, and $46,100 to Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s “Victory Fund”. Roberti also made the maximum individual contribution to Pelosi’s campaign and leadership PAC, as well as roughly a dozen other Democratic candidates.



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Of course. Can only see one side.
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dislaxxic wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 11:59 am How about reporting that Billy Barr calls out Trump for his "personal deficiencies" in his new book. :shock:

Pass the popcorn...wonder if KelleyAnn's boy Ronnie DeSatan will get on THIS bandwagon?? :lol:

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... of course he will, being the coward and hypocrite he is, after the rest of us take Trump down for good.
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Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:43 pm Of course. Can only see one side.
KellyAnne should look up how much Orange Cheeto has donated to democrats... :shock:

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dislaxxic wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:45 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:43 pm Of course. Can only see one side.
KellyAnne should look up how much Orange Cheeto has donated to democrats... :shock:

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Peter Brown wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:13 pm
dislaxxic wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:45 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:43 pm Of course. Can only see one side.
KellyAnne should look up how much Orange Cheeto has donated to democrats... :shock:

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Mitch McConnell Rebukes Rick Scott for Tax Proposal
Senate GOP leader and other Republicans are concerned Florida lawmaker’s call for all Americans to pay income tax gives Democrats fuel for their midterms message

Florida GOP Sen. Rick Scott, center, speaking to the media during a Senate Republican Leadership press conference in Washington, D.C., on Tuesday.
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WASHINGTON—Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell rebuked a policy agenda crafted by fellow Republican Sen. Rick Scott, saying it would raise taxes on lower-income Americans, as Democrats seized on the proposal for their midterm elections message against the GOP.

Mr. Scott’s 11-point “Rescue America” plan was released last week and he has paid for television and online advertising. It covers a range of topics, and includes proposals to name the border wall after former Republican President Donald Trump, balance the federal budget, prohibit the government from asking people to disclose their race on any federal form and sunset all federal legislation after five years. But a line about taxes gained the most attention. “All Americans should pay some income tax to have skin in the game, even if a small amount. Currently over half of Americans pay no income tax,” it reads.

“We will not have as part of our agenda a bill that raises taxes on half the American people and sunsets Social Security and Medicare within five years,” Mr. McConnell told reporters Tuesday. “That will not be part of the Republican Senate majority agenda.”


With the Senate split 50-50, control of the chamber is at stake in the November elections. Mr. McConnell, who could regain the majority post, and other Republicans fear that Mr. Scott’s idea could blunt momentum in what looks to be a favorable climate for the party.

Mr. Scott, a wealthy former Florida governor and businessman, was elected in 2018 and quickly sought to grow a national profile. He is seen as a possible 2024 presidential candidate, should Mr. Trump decide against running again. Mr. Scott has stayed close to Mr. Trump while Mr. McConnell has urged the GOP to move on from the former president. Mr. Trump has encouraged Mr. Scott to challenge Mr. McConnell for the position of party leader, according to people familiar with the discussions.


Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said on Tuesday, ‘We will not have as part of our agenda a bill that raises taxes on half the American people.’
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Some senators raised concerns about Mr. Scott’s proposal during a private GOP leadership meeting Monday, according to a person familiar with the discussion, and warned that Republican candidates are being asked whether they support the plan. Mr. Scott is the head of the National Republican Senatorial Committee but said he released the agenda on his own.

Mr. McConnell said Tuesday that a GOP agenda would focus “on what the American people are concerned about: inflation, energy, defense, the border and crime.”


Mr. Scott’s proposal was reminiscent of comments by 2012 GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney, who said that 47% of Americans would vote to re-elect President Barack Obama because they are dependent on the government and pay no income tax. Mr. Scott has denied he would raise taxes and his plan doesn’t provide details, but Mr. McConnell and outside analysts say it could raise taxes.

Mr. Scott reiterated in a statement Tuesday that he didn’t want to raise taxes. “I do, however, want to have a conversation about able-bodied Americans who are living off of government programs instead of working, a reality caused by Democrat policies,” he said.

Roughly half of U.S. households that pay no federal income tax are exempted because of basic provisions such as limitations on tax for low-income earners. Both parties have also supported breaks for older Americans.

Democrats and the Biden administration blasted the proposal and have sought to pressure Republican candidates to take a position. “This is the Republican Party’s official platform, and the DNC will use every resource at our disposal to make sure voters know exactly what Republicans stand for,” the Democratic National Committee said in launching digital ads.

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Mr. McConnell’s statement Tuesday was an attempt to stop that message from taking hold.

After being asked about the plan during a routine news conference Tuesday, Mr. McConnell said that Mr. Scott was behind him and could answer to that. But Mr. Scott had left the gaggle moments before, leaving fellow Republican leaders to smirk at the awkwardness.


Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida, another possible 2024 candidate, has also criticized the idea, though without invoking Mr. Scott’s name. During an event last week in Florida, he was asked about taxation policy and said some Republicans were calling for all Americans to pay income tax.

“I think that’s a terrible message to send,” Mr. DeSantis said.

Write to Lindsay Wise at [email protected] and Alex Leary at [email protected]
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Criticize Putin?
They can't even criticize the Confederacy.
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CU88 wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:56 pm Criticize Putin?
They can't even criticize the Confederacy.
Tru dat.
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CU88 wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:56 pm Criticize Putin?
They can't even criticize the Confederacy.
They're the ones waving the Nazi flag while complaining about fascism. That dog don't hunt. Are we sure we got rid of all the lead in gas?
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NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 9:58 pm
CU88 wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:56 pm Criticize Putin?
They can't even criticize the Confederacy.
They're the ones waving the Nazi flag while complaining about fascism. That dog don't hunt. Are we sure we got rid of all the lead in gas?
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Meanwhile the white nationalist fascist republican party doesn't miss a beat. A small number of republicans begin to realize how bad the look is.
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Farfromgeneva wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:44 pm Mitch McConnell Rebukes Rick Scott for Tax Proposal
Senate GOP leader and other Republicans are concerned Florida lawmaker’s call for all Americans to pay income tax gives Democrats fuel for their midterms message

Florida GOP Sen. Rick Scott, center, speaking to the media during a Senate Republican Leadership press conference in Washington, D.C., on Tuesday.
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WASHINGTON—Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell rebuked a policy agenda crafted by fellow Republican Sen. Rick Scott, saying it would raise taxes on lower-income Americans, as Democrats seized on the proposal for their midterm elections message against the GOP.

Mr. Scott’s 11-point “Rescue America” plan was released last week and he has paid for television and online advertising. It covers a range of topics, and includes proposals to name the border wall after former Republican President Donald Trump, balance the federal budget, prohibit the government from asking people to disclose their race on any federal form and sunset all federal legislation after five years. But a line about taxes gained the most attention. “All Americans should pay some income tax to have skin in the game, even if a small amount. Currently over half of Americans pay no income tax,” it reads.

“We will not have as part of our agenda a bill that raises taxes on half the American people and sunsets Social Security and Medicare within five years,” Mr. McConnell told reporters Tuesday. “That will not be part of the Republican Senate majority agenda.”


With the Senate split 50-50, control of the chamber is at stake in the November elections. Mr. McConnell, who could regain the majority post, and other Republicans fear that Mr. Scott’s idea could blunt momentum in what looks to be a favorable climate for the party.

Mr. Scott, a wealthy former Florida governor and businessman, was elected in 2018 and quickly sought to grow a national profile. He is seen as a possible 2024 presidential candidate, should Mr. Trump decide against running again. Mr. Scott has stayed close to Mr. Trump while Mr. McConnell has urged the GOP to move on from the former president. Mr. Trump has encouraged Mr. Scott to challenge Mr. McConnell for the position of party leader, according to people familiar with the discussions.


Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said on Tuesday, ‘We will not have as part of our agenda a bill that raises taxes on half the American people.’
PHOTO: JONATHAN ERNST/REUTERS
Some senators raised concerns about Mr. Scott’s proposal during a private GOP leadership meeting Monday, according to a person familiar with the discussion, and warned that Republican candidates are being asked whether they support the plan. Mr. Scott is the head of the National Republican Senatorial Committee but said he released the agenda on his own.

Mr. McConnell said Tuesday that a GOP agenda would focus “on what the American people are concerned about: inflation, energy, defense, the border and crime.”


Mr. Scott’s proposal was reminiscent of comments by 2012 GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney, who said that 47% of Americans would vote to re-elect President Barack Obama because they are dependent on the government and pay no income tax. Mr. Scott has denied he would raise taxes and his plan doesn’t provide details, but Mr. McConnell and outside analysts say it could raise taxes.

Mr. Scott reiterated in a statement Tuesday that he didn’t want to raise taxes. “I do, however, want to have a conversation about able-bodied Americans who are living off of government programs instead of working, a reality caused by Democrat policies,” he said.

Roughly half of U.S. households that pay no federal income tax are exempted because of basic provisions such as limitations on tax for low-income earners. Both parties have also supported breaks for older Americans.

Democrats and the Biden administration blasted the proposal and have sought to pressure Republican candidates to take a position. “This is the Republican Party’s official platform, and the DNC will use every resource at our disposal to make sure voters know exactly what Republicans stand for,” the Democratic National Committee said in launching digital ads.

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Mr. McConnell’s statement Tuesday was an attempt to stop that message from taking hold.

After being asked about the plan during a routine news conference Tuesday, Mr. McConnell said that Mr. Scott was behind him and could answer to that. But Mr. Scott had left the gaggle moments before, leaving fellow Republican leaders to smirk at the awkwardness.


Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida, another possible 2024 candidate, has also criticized the idea, though without invoking Mr. Scott’s name. During an event last week in Florida, he was asked about taxation policy and said some Republicans were calling for all Americans to pay income tax.

“I think that’s a terrible message to send,” Mr. DeSantis said.

Write to Lindsay Wise at [email protected] and Alex Leary at [email protected]

Hoping a fan sees this.

Following up on FFG’s post comes this article from The Federalist.

So Republicans do in fact post what then stand for. Unfortunately, establishment types like Mitch don’t like that. Glad Rick’s going this and not backing down.

https://thefederalist.com/2022/03/03/se ... -for-them/

Sen. Rick Scott recently did what no one else in the Republican Senate thought important: he released an agenda ahead of the 2022 midterm elections. Up to this point, Senate Republicans, led by Mitch McConnell, appeared content to proudly run on no strategy at all, convinced that simply pointing at Democrats and shrieking about how bad they are will crown them victorious.

As a point of electoral politics, this is not completely irrational. Polling shows Democratic policy failures and broad cultural overreaches are driving voters to Republicans in record numbers.
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Speaking of what "Republicans stand for," 174 of them in the House today voted against a bill aimed at providing health benefits and care to veterans exposed to toxicity from burn pits. Boebert, Cawthorn, Cheney, Crenshaw, Goehmert, Gosar, Jordan, Stefanik, McCarthy, all against.
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seacoaster wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 4:03 pm Speaking of what "Republicans stand for," 174 of them in the House today voted against a bill aimed at providing health benefits and care to veterans exposed to toxicity from burn pits. Boebert, Cawthorn, Cheney, Crenshaw, Goehmert, Gosar, Jordan, Stefanik, McCarthy, all against.



Like everything, I doubt this vote can be reduced to ‘Republican bad’, as much as you’d love

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No where to put this that makes sense, as these people make no sense, so I put it here.

Yet another anti-something convoy is heading for DC. Love their latest conspiracy theory - Putin and Trump working together to keep Tony Fauci from producing bioweapons in Ukraine, hence explaining Putin's shelling of Ukraine in an attempt to destroy Fauci's lab(s).

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