Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

[laxbro11]

IL released their Power 100 Freshman Rankings

3 Loyola Freshmen made the cut

#91 Evan James
#95 Eric Pacheco
#97 Colton Teitelbaum

The other 4 stars in this group have to feel disrespected at least...

Interesting IL list to say the least. I dunno about some of those names. We shall see how it all pans out! The scoreboard talks the loudest and last! Let's go!!!!



Loyola is regularly ignored on these lists. It's ok. THe results ont hefield speak volumes. I'll take our no names over the IL lists any day.

Which Loyola players have been ignored on the IL Top 100 incoming freshmen over the last 4 years that IL missed? That encompasses current freshmen through seniors at Loyola. I guess I can expand that to Ty Xanders' old Recruiting Rundown website too. Who did he miss? In other words, who was left off the list that proved they should've been on it or should've been much higher?

Different school but same league, I believe IL and everyone else failed to note Johnny Surdick of Army (high school was Gtown Prep I believe) who was the single best defenseman in D1 not just last year but the last two years.

PB, I looked it up and it looks like you are correct. Surdick went to Dematha, but IL did not list him in their 2015 recruiting issue. I can't tell if he was in their top 40 defensemen in the 2014 issue. Since he went to USMAPS, it's possible he could've been in either issue. Shut down defensemen are a little bit hard to project. The top defensemen all look really good against almost all HS competition. They are big, fast and usually skilled compared to most everyone in HS. But the range at which they are effective in college guarding players like Pat Spencer, Grant Ament and Michael Sowers varies greatly. IL probably looks at stick skills and contributions by a longstick to ground balls, clearing and scoring as a huge criteria for how the rank players. But, for some players like Surdick, it really doesn't matter much how good he is at starting a fast break if he can shut down Pat Spencer.

This is not to say that IL fails to notice all shut down defensemen, just that I can see how some would fail to grab their attention.

Your post above is about as coherent and informative a post on Fanlax or Laxpower I have ever read and not simply because you said I was correct...lol.

It does seem harder to gauge defenders coming out of high school. And possibly goals scored by defense might make the rankers take notice more. I think that was possibly the case with Ryan McNulty, who has a phenomenal shot off a long pole.

Surdick was a kid I saw play many times in college, and I was always blown away with how strong and quick he was. Spencer could not bully this guy at all, which Pat was able to often do to others. Compounding the headache for Pat was Surdick was exceptionally bright at field awareness, again a trait you see some occasional lapses in by more-heralded players. For Surdick, his CT's the last two years were remarkable b/c he did all that really by himself (if you ever saw how Army played defense, which was basically man to man with little backup). BU had as good defense on CT's as Army, but the Terriers tag-teamed to create Turnovers. Surdick's CT's were almost always open field stick checks. Army will really miss him.

The point being made is what you do with your recruits and it has been said before Toomey finds the diamonds in the rough... Take a look down Charles street, JHU always has one of the top recruiting classes and they are a .500 team. It is how you develop your players. Does it matter what the opinion of Ty Xanders is? It is how your players come together and play as a team and not as individuals

[Lenwood117]

IL released their Power 100 Freshman Rankings

3 Loyola Freshmen made the cut

#91 Evan James
#95 Eric Pacheco
#97 Colton Teitelbaum

The other 4 stars in this group have to feel disrespected at least...

Interesting IL list to say the least. I dunno about some of those names. We shall see how it all pans out! The scoreboard talks the loudest and last! Let's go!!!!



Loyola is regularly ignored on these lists. It's ok. THe results ont hefield speak volumes. I'll take our no names over the IL lists any day.

Which Loyola players have been ignored on the IL Top 100 incoming freshmen over the last 4 years that IL missed? That encompasses current freshmen through seniors at Loyola. I guess I can expand that to Ty Xanders' old Recruiting Rundown website too. Who did he miss? In other words, who was left off the list that proved they should've been on it or should've been much higher?

Different school but same league, I believe IL and everyone else failed to note Johnny Surdick of Army (high school was Gtown Prep I believe) who was the single best defenseman in D1 not just last year but the last two years.

PB, I looked it up and it looks like you are correct. Surdick went to Dematha, but IL did not list him in their 2015 recruiting issue. I can't tell if he was in their top 40 defensemen in the 2014 issue. Since he went to USMAPS, it's possible he could've been in either issue. Shut down defensemen are a little bit hard to project. The top defensemen all look really good against almost all HS competition. They are big, fast and usually skilled compared to most everyone in HS. But the range at which they are effective in college guarding players like Pat Spencer, Grant Ament and Michael Sowers varies greatly. IL probably looks at stick skills and contributions by a longstick to ground balls, clearing and scoring as a huge criteria for how the rank players. But, for some players like Surdick, it really doesn't matter much how good he is at starting a fast break if he can shut down Pat Spencer.

This is not to say that IL fails to notice all shut down defensemen, just that I can see how some would fail to grab their attention.

Your post above is about as coherent and informative a post on Fanlax or Laxpower I have ever read and not simply because you said I was correct...lol.

It does seem harder to gauge defenders coming out of high school. And possibly goals scored by defense might make the rankers take notice more. I think that was possibly the case with Ryan McNulty, who has a phenomenal shot off a long pole.

Surdick was a kid I saw play many times in college, and I was always blown away with how strong and quick he was. Spencer could not bully this guy at all, which Pat was able to often do to others. Compounding the headache for Pat was Surdick was exceptionally bright at field awareness, again a trait you see some occasional lapses in by more-heralded players. For Surdick, his CT's the last two years were remarkable b/c he did all that really by himself (if you ever saw how Army played defense, which was basically man to man with little backup). BU had as good defense on CT's as Army, but the Terriers tag-teamed to create Turnovers. Surdick's CT's were almost always open field stick checks. Army will really miss him.

The point being made is what you do with your recruits and it has been said before Toomey finds the diamonds in the rough... Take a look down Charles street, JHU always has one of the top recruiting classes and they are a .500 team. It is how you develop your players. Does it matter what the opinion of Ty Xanders is? It is how your players come together and play as a team and not as individuals

Great point, look at Army's defense no 5 or 4 star commits but every year has a unit they are strong. Great coaching

[Peter Brown]

Another feather in Army's cap is that team ALWAYS plays Syracuse tough, and nearly always that is because Army's defense will not bend.

'Cuse is a team which can occasionally roll a lesser team, but Army, which clearly does not get the same IL-ranked high school stars as Cuse, always plays the Orange close. You have got to tip your hat to them for doing so.

I am sure every time Cuse gets on the field versus Army, those fans are nervous as to the outcome.

[ohmilax34]

Another feather in Army's cap is that team ALWAYS plays Syracuse tough, and nearly always that is because Army's defense will not bend.

'Cuse is a team which can occasionally roll a lesser team, but Army, which clearly does not get the same IL-ranked high school stars as Cuse, always plays the Orange close. You have got to tip your hat to them for doing so.

I am sure every time Cuse gets on the field versus Army, those fans are nervous as to the outcome.

Never been to the game, but yes, Cuse fans consider that a tough game regardless of who Army has on their team.

[oldskoollax]

IL released their Power 100 Freshman Rankings

3 Loyola Freshmen made the cut

#91 Evan James
#95 Eric Pacheco
#97 Colton Teitelbaum

The other 4 stars in this group have to feel disrespected at least...

Interesting IL list to say the least. I dunno about some of those names. We shall see how it all pans out! The scoreboard talks the loudest and last! Let's go!!!!

Loyola is regularly ignored on these lists. It's ok. THe results ont hefield speak volumes. I'll take our no names over the IL lists any day.

Which Loyola players have been ignored on the IL Top 100 incoming freshmen over the last 4 years that IL missed? That encompasses current freshmen through seniors at Loyola. I guess I can expand that to Ty Xanders' old Recruiting Rundown website too. Who did he miss? In other words, who was left off the list that proved they should've been on it or should've been much higher?

Different school but same league, I believe IL and everyone else failed to note Johnny Surdick of Army (high school was Gtown Prep I believe) who was the single best defenseman in D1 not just last year but the last two years.

PB, I looked it up and it looks like you are correct. Surdick went to Dematha, but IL did not list him in their 2015 recruiting issue. I can't tell if he was in their top 40 defensemen in the 2014 issue. Since he went to USMAPS, it's possible he could've been in either issue. Shut down defensemen are a little bit hard to project. The top defensemen all look really good against almost all HS competition. They are big, fast and usually skilled compared to most everyone in HS. But the range at which they are effective in college guarding players like Pat Spencer, Grant Ament and Michael Sowers varies greatly. IL probably looks at stick skills and contributions by a longstick to ground balls, clearing and scoring as a huge criteria for how the rank players. But, for some players like Surdick, it really doesn't matter much how good he is at starting a fast break if he can shut down Pat Spencer.

This is not to say that IL fails to notice all shut down defensemen, just that I can see how some would fail to grab their attention.

Another top player from the Patriot League was Lehigh's Craig Chick (South River HS) who was not in the Top 100. Tough for a public school kid in Maryland to get recognized with all of the strong Private schools.

[NovaHound]

Agree on that. Hard to get recognition when you're not winning the Patriot League or playing in the post season. He was an outstanding player. He put up the numbers to rise higher in Post Season accolades IMO. And Lehigh used him all over - multidimensional talented defensive player.

[thatsmell]

Carrying 44 in the Fall. Another nice roster, with players from all over.


2020 Men's Lacrosse Roster
# FULL NAME ACADEMIC YEAR POS. HT. WT. HOMETOWN / HIGH SCHOOL
0 Colton Teitelbaum Fr. GK 6-0 180 Oyster Bay Cove, N.Y. / Locust Valley
1 Ross Pridemore So. A 5-10 190 Atlanta, Ga. / Homeschooled
2 Sam Shafer Jr. GK 6-3 235 Rowayton, Conn. / Trinity-Pawling
3 Collin McCarthy Jr. M 6-2 220 Wallingford, Conn. / Xavier
4 Liam Bateman So. M 6-0 180 Towson, Md. / Loyola Blakefield
5 Cam Wyers So. D 6-4 215 Ottawa, Ontario / Everest Academy
6 Matthew Benus Jr. M 5-10 180 Woodbury, N.Y. / Syosset
7 Kevin Lindley Jr. A 5-10 175 Darien, Conn. / Darien
8 Matt Higgins Sr. M 5-10 180 Marietta, Ga. / Blessed Trinity
10 Cole Boland Sr. M 5-11 175 Cherry Hills Village, Colo. / Regis Jesuit
11 Matt Heuston Fr. M 6-2 190 Lancaster, Pa. / Hempfield
12 Riley Cox Sr. M 6-4 215 Cold Spring Harbor, N.Y. / Cold Spring Harbor
13 Peter Swindell Sr. M 6-1 200 New Canaan, Conn. / New Canaan
15 Eric Pacheco Fr. FO 6-1 195 Castle Pines, Colo. / Valor Christian
16 Joey Kamish Fr. A 6-1 180 Wixom, Mich. / Detroit Central Catholic
17 Cam James So. D 5-9 185 Wilsonville, Ore. / Landon School
18 Jack Griffin Fr. A 5-10 175 Wyckoff, N.J. / Ramapo
19 Aidan Olmstead Jr. A 5-9 175 Painted Post, N.Y. / Corning-Painted Post
20 Will Sherwood Fr. M 5-10 175 Severna Park, Md. / Archbishop Spalding
21 Logan Devereaux Sr. A 6-5 215 Marietta, Ga. / The Westminster Schools
22 Corey Millhouse Jr. M 5-9 170 North Haven, Conn. / Hamden Hall
23 Mitchell Cain So. M 5-11 180 Victor, N.Y. / Victor
24 Jack Raba So. A 6-2 180 Cheshire, Conn. / Cheshire
25 Jack Decker So. M 6-2 185 Fishkill, N.Y. / John Jay
26 Freeman Whitaker So. GK 5-10 180 Oakwood, Ohio / Oakwood
27 Dan Wigley Jr. M 5-10 185 Medford, N.J. / Shawnee
28 Bailey Savio Jr. FO 6-0 185 Greenwich, Conn. / Greenwich
29 Chris Cottone Fr. FO 5-10 175 Bel Air, Md. / Calvert Hall College
30 Najee Taylor Fr. M 6-0 175 Des Plaines, Ill. / Loyola Academy
32 Evan James Fr. M 6-0 180 Dublin, Ohio / Dublin Coffman
34 Payton Rezanka So. M 5-11 185 San Diego, Calif. / Cathedral Catholic
35 Billy Weiss Fr. D 5-9 180 Memphis, Tenn. / Memphis University School
37 Adam Wagner Jr. A 5-11 185 Denville, N.J. / Morris Catholic
40 Jarett Bonser Jr. D 6-1 190 Deer Park, N.Y. / Deer Park
41 Kyle LeBlanc Jr. D 6-2 200 Brielle, N.J. / High Technology
42 Riley Seay So. M 5-9 180 Mt. Pleasant, S.C. / Oceanside Collegiate Academy
43 Calder VandenHeuval Fr. LSM 6-1 175 Frederick, Md. / Glenelg Country School
44 Scott Middleton So. LSM 5-11 180 Phoenix, Md. / Hereford
45 Adam Poitras Fr. A 6-0 175 Whitby, Ontario / The Hill Academy
47 Kevin Shires So. LSM 6-1 170 Brightwaters, N.Y. / St. Anthony's
48 Joe Tabor Sr. GK 6-2 190 Alamo, Calif. / Monte Vista
50 Matt Hughes Jr. D 6-2 190 Reston, Va. / South Lakes
51 John Railey Sr. D 6-6 210 Chevy Chase, Md. / Georgetown Prep
55 Ryan McNulty Sr. LSM 6-2 200 Exton, Pa. / Bishop Shanahan
59 Alex Johnson Sr. D 5-11 185 Blaine, Minn. / Culver Military Academy

[Peter Brown]

Carrying 44 in the Fall. Another nice roster, with players from all over.


2020 Men's Lacrosse Roster
# FULL NAME ACADEMIC YEAR POS. HT. WT. HOMETOWN / HIGH SCHOOL
0 Colton Teitelbaum Fr. GK 6-0 180 Oyster Bay Cove, N.Y. / Locust Valley
1 Ross Pridemore So. A 5-10 190 Atlanta, Ga. / Homeschooled
2 Sam Shafer Jr. GK 6-3 235 Rowayton, Conn. / Trinity-Pawling
3 Collin McCarthy Jr. M 6-2 220 Wallingford, Conn. / Xavier
4 Liam Bateman So. M 6-0 180 Towson, Md. / Loyola Blakefield
5 Cam Wyers So. D 6-4 215 Ottawa, Ontario / Everest Academy
6 Matthew Benus Jr. M 5-10 180 Woodbury, N.Y. / Syosset
7 Kevin Lindley Jr. A 5-10 175 Darien, Conn. / Darien
8 Matt Higgins Sr. M 5-10 180 Marietta, Ga. / Blessed Trinity
10 Cole Boland Sr. M 5-11 175 Cherry Hills Village, Colo. / Regis Jesuit
11 Matt Heuston Fr. M 6-2 190 Lancaster, Pa. / Hempfield
12 Riley Cox Sr. M 6-4 215 Cold Spring Harbor, N.Y. / Cold Spring Harbor
13 Peter Swindell Sr. M 6-1 200 New Canaan, Conn. / New Canaan
15 Eric Pacheco Fr. FO 6-1 195 Castle Pines, Colo. / Valor Christian
16 Joey Kamish Fr. A 6-1 180 Wixom, Mich. / Detroit Central Catholic
17 Cam James So. D 5-9 185 Wilsonville, Ore. / Landon School
18 Jack Griffin Fr. A 5-10 175 Wyckoff, N.J. / Ramapo
19 Aidan Olmstead Jr. A 5-9 175 Painted Post, N.Y. / Corning-Painted Post
20 Will Sherwood Fr. M 5-10 175 Severna Park, Md. / Archbishop Spalding
21 Logan Devereaux Sr. A 6-5 215 Marietta, Ga. / The Westminster Schools
22 Corey Millhouse Jr. M 5-9 170 North Haven, Conn. / Hamden Hall
23 Mitchell Cain So. M 5-11 180 Victor, N.Y. / Victor
24 Jack Raba So. A 6-2 180 Cheshire, Conn. / Cheshire
25 Jack Decker So. M 6-2 185 Fishkill, N.Y. / John Jay
26 Freeman Whitaker So. GK 5-10 180 Oakwood, Ohio / Oakwood
27 Dan Wigley Jr. M 5-10 185 Medford, N.J. / Shawnee
28 Bailey Savio Jr. FO 6-0 185 Greenwich, Conn. / Greenwich
29 Chris Cottone Fr. FO 5-10 175 Bel Air, Md. / Calvert Hall College
30 Najee Taylor Fr. M 6-0 175 Des Plaines, Ill. / Loyola Academy
32 Evan James Fr. M 6-0 180 Dublin, Ohio / Dublin Coffman
34 Payton Rezanka So. M 5-11 185 San Diego, Calif. / Cathedral Catholic
35 Billy Weiss Fr. D 5-9 180 Memphis, Tenn. / Memphis University School
37 Adam Wagner Jr. A 5-11 185 Denville, N.J. / Morris Catholic
40 Jarett Bonser Jr. D 6-1 190 Deer Park, N.Y. / Deer Park
41 Kyle LeBlanc Jr. D 6-2 200 Brielle, N.J. / High Technology
42 Riley Seay So. M 5-9 180 Mt. Pleasant, S.C. / Oceanside Collegiate Academy
43 Calder VandenHeuval Fr. LSM 6-1 175 Frederick, Md. / Glenelg Country School
44 Scott Middleton So. LSM 5-11 180 Phoenix, Md. / Hereford
45 Adam Poitras Fr. A 6-0 175 Whitby, Ontario / The Hill Academy
47 Kevin Shires So. LSM 6-1 170 Brightwaters, N.Y. / St. Anthony's
48 Joe Tabor Sr. GK 6-2 190 Alamo, Calif. / Monte Vista
50 Matt Hughes Jr. D 6-2 190 Reston, Va. / South Lakes
51 John Railey Sr. D 6-6 210 Chevy Chase, Md. / Georgetown Prep
55 Ryan McNulty Sr. LSM 6-2 200 Exton, Pa. / Bishop Shanahan
59 Alex Johnson Sr. D 5-11 185 Blaine, Minn. / Culver Military Academy

I count 19 private school grads of 44, with some of those privates like Hill and Culver not exactly preppie-central. Or a percentage of 43%. Is that high or low relative to the rest of D1?

[ohmilax34]

Carrying 44 in the Fall. Another nice roster, with players from all over.


2020 Men's Lacrosse Roster
# FULL NAME ACADEMIC YEAR POS. HT. WT. HOMETOWN / HIGH SCHOOL
0 Colton Teitelbaum Fr. GK 6-0 180 Oyster Bay Cove, N.Y. / Locust Valley
1 Ross Pridemore So. A 5-10 190 Atlanta, Ga. / Homeschooled
2 Sam Shafer Jr. GK 6-3 235 Rowayton, Conn. / Trinity-Pawling
3 Collin McCarthy Jr. M 6-2 220 Wallingford, Conn. / Xavier
4 Liam Bateman So. M 6-0 180 Towson, Md. / Loyola Blakefield
5 Cam Wyers So. D 6-4 215 Ottawa, Ontario / Everest Academy
6 Matthew Benus Jr. M 5-10 180 Woodbury, N.Y. / Syosset
7 Kevin Lindley Jr. A 5-10 175 Darien, Conn. / Darien
8 Matt Higgins Sr. M 5-10 180 Marietta, Ga. / Blessed Trinity
10 Cole Boland Sr. M 5-11 175 Cherry Hills Village, Colo. / Regis Jesuit
11 Matt Heuston Fr. M 6-2 190 Lancaster, Pa. / Hempfield
12 Riley Cox Sr. M 6-4 215 Cold Spring Harbor, N.Y. / Cold Spring Harbor
13 Peter Swindell Sr. M 6-1 200 New Canaan, Conn. / New Canaan
15 Eric Pacheco Fr. FO 6-1 195 Castle Pines, Colo. / Valor Christian
16 Joey Kamish Fr. A 6-1 180 Wixom, Mich. / Detroit Central Catholic
17 Cam James So. D 5-9 185 Wilsonville, Ore. / Landon School
18 Jack Griffin Fr. A 5-10 175 Wyckoff, N.J. / Ramapo
19 Aidan Olmstead Jr. A 5-9 175 Painted Post, N.Y. / Corning-Painted Post
20 Will Sherwood Fr. M 5-10 175 Severna Park, Md. / Archbishop Spalding
21 Logan Devereaux Sr. A 6-5 215 Marietta, Ga. / The Westminster Schools
22 Corey Millhouse Jr. M 5-9 170 North Haven, Conn. / Hamden Hall
23 Mitchell Cain So. M 5-11 180 Victor, N.Y. / Victor
24 Jack Raba So. A 6-2 180 Cheshire, Conn. / Cheshire
25 Jack Decker So. M 6-2 185 Fishkill, N.Y. / John Jay
26 Freeman Whitaker So. GK 5-10 180 Oakwood, Ohio / Oakwood
27 Dan Wigley Jr. M 5-10 185 Medford, N.J. / Shawnee
28 Bailey Savio Jr. FO 6-0 185 Greenwich, Conn. / Greenwich
29 Chris Cottone Fr. FO 5-10 175 Bel Air, Md. / Calvert Hall College
30 Najee Taylor Fr. M 6-0 175 Des Plaines, Ill. / Loyola Academy
32 Evan James Fr. M 6-0 180 Dublin, Ohio / Dublin Coffman
34 Payton Rezanka So. M 5-11 185 San Diego, Calif. / Cathedral Catholic
35 Billy Weiss Fr. D 5-9 180 Memphis, Tenn. / Memphis University School
37 Adam Wagner Jr. A 5-11 185 Denville, N.J. / Morris Catholic
40 Jarett Bonser Jr. D 6-1 190 Deer Park, N.Y. / Deer Park
41 Kyle LeBlanc Jr. D 6-2 200 Brielle, N.J. / High Technology
42 Riley Seay So. M 5-9 180 Mt. Pleasant, S.C. / Oceanside Collegiate Academy
43 Calder VandenHeuval Fr. LSM 6-1 175 Frederick, Md. / Glenelg Country School
44 Scott Middleton So. LSM 5-11 180 Phoenix, Md. / Hereford
45 Adam Poitras Fr. A 6-0 175 Whitby, Ontario / The Hill Academy
47 Kevin Shires So. LSM 6-1 170 Brightwaters, N.Y. / St. Anthony's
48 Joe Tabor Sr. GK 6-2 190 Alamo, Calif. / Monte Vista
50 Matt Hughes Jr. D 6-2 190 Reston, Va. / South Lakes
51 John Railey Sr. D 6-6 210 Chevy Chase, Md. / Georgetown Prep
55 Ryan McNulty Sr. LSM 6-2 200 Exton, Pa. / Bishop Shanahan
59 Alex Johnson Sr. D 5-11 185 Blaine, Minn. / Culver Military Academy

I count 19 private school grads of 44, with some of those privates like Hill and Culver not exactly preppie-central. Or a percentage of 43%. Is that high or low relative to the rest of D1?

And you're counting Darien, New Canaan and Greenwich as public, but those aren't exactly "blue collar" are they?

[ohmilax34]

I'm just giving you a hard time, Peter.

I looked at Syracuse's roster from last year. I threw out Brad Voigt, Ty Bomberry, Jerry Staats and Troy Lauder. Voigt PGed at a NE Prep, but went to a public for 4 years before that. The other 3 are native americans who went to a private school, but I'm guessing they didn't grow up in that environment. I will allow you to use a similar methology for Loyola's roster if you'd like. SU had 24% from private schools. However, like Loyola, and I'm sure practically every other division 1 lacrosse team, the public school kids come from some nice places, including Highland Park (TX), Alpharetta (GA), Ridgewood (NJ) and Torrey Pines (CA). Nobody's taking up a collection for those guys.

[10stone5]

Another, not exactly Blue Collar public, in N Cal.

Carrying 44 in the Fall. Another nice roster, with players from all over.

2020 Men's Lacrosse Roster
# FULL NAME ACADEMIC YEAR POS. HT. WT. HOMETOWN / HIGH SCHOOL
...

48 Joe Tabor Sr. GK 6-2 190
Alamo, Calif. / Monte Vista

Almost forgot about Joe Tabor.
That was one good team when Tabor was a senior at Monte Vista, they pretty much rolled over everyone. Devin Spencer at UMass was a senior also on that team that year, named the N Cal player of the year.

[Peter Brown]

I'm just giving you a hard time, Peter.

I looked at Syracuse's roster from last year. I threw out Brad Voigt, Ty Bomberry, Jerry Staats and Troy Lauder. Voigt PGed at a NE Prep, but went to a public for 4 years before that. The other 3 are native americans who went to a private school, but I'm guessing they didn't grow up in that environment. I will allow you to use a similar methology for Loyola's roster if you'd like. SU had 24% from private schools. However, like Loyola, and I'm sure practically every other division 1 lacrosse team, the public school kids come from some nice places, including Highland Park (TX), Alpharetta (GA), Ridgewood (NJ) and Torrey Pines (CA). Nobody's taking up a collection for those guys.

lol...no offense taken...ever!

I'm just trying to determine the average prep school % figure among D1 teams, since many Hop fans here accuse us Loyola fans of being preppy (even though when you look at their stands, you'd think you accidentally stumbled upon a Pass the Grey Poupon commercial, tweed caps, haute accents, and all). I'm guessing 44% is high relative to mean, except for the Ivies.

I like our guys no matter what's thrown at them! We will be beasts this season...count on that!

[ohmilax34]

I'm just giving you a hard time, Peter.

I looked at Syracuse's roster from last year. I threw out Brad Voigt, Ty Bomberry, Jerry Staats and Troy Lauder. Voigt PGed at a NE Prep, but went to a public for 4 years before that. The other 3 are native americans who went to a private school, but I'm guessing they didn't grow up in that environment. I will allow you to use a similar methology for Loyola's roster if you'd like. SU had 24% from private schools. However, like Loyola, and I'm sure practically every other division 1 lacrosse team, the public school kids come from some nice places, including Highland Park (TX), Alpharetta (GA), Ridgewood (NJ) and Torrey Pines (CA). Nobody's taking up a collection for those guys.

lol...no offense taken...ever!

I'm just trying to determine the average prep school % figure among D1 teams, since many Hop fans here accuse us Loyola fans of being preppy (even though when you look at their stands, you'd think you accidentally stumbled upon a Pass the Grey Poupon commercial, tweed caps, haute accents, and all). I'm guessing 44% is high relative to mean, except for the Ivies.

I like our guys no matter what's thrown at them! We will be beasts this season...count on that!

Here in Cleveland, I would consider many of the kids that go to St. Ignatius and St. Edwards HS's to come from blue collar background, certainly more than some of the suburbs in the northeast Ohio area.

[Peter Brown]

I'm just giving you a hard time, Peter.

I looked at Syracuse's roster from last year. I threw out Brad Voigt, Ty Bomberry, Jerry Staats and Troy Lauder. Voigt PGed at a NE Prep, but went to a public for 4 years before that. The other 3 are native americans who went to a private school, but I'm guessing they didn't grow up in that environment. I will allow you to use a similar methology for Loyola's roster if you'd like. SU had 24% from private schools. However, like Loyola, and I'm sure practically every other division 1 lacrosse team, the public school kids come from some nice places, including Highland Park (TX), Alpharetta (GA), Ridgewood (NJ) and Torrey Pines (CA). Nobody's taking up a collection for those guys.

lol...no offense taken...ever!

I'm just trying to determine the average prep school % figure among D1 teams, since many Hop fans here accuse us Loyola fans of being preppy (even though when you look at their stands, you'd think you accidentally stumbled upon a Pass the Grey Poupon commercial, tweed caps, haute accents, and all). I'm guessing 44% is high relative to mean, except for the Ivies.

I like our guys no matter what's thrown at them! We will be beasts this season...count on that!

Here in Cleveland, I would consider many of the kids that go to St. Ignatius and St. Edwards HS's to come from blue collar background, certainly more than some of the suburbs in the northeast Ohio area.

We have Mr. Ohio, Evan James, on our squad now, so we hope to enlist your cheering this season!

[ohmilax34]

I'm just giving you a hard time, Peter.

I looked at Syracuse's roster from last year. I threw out Brad Voigt, Ty Bomberry, Jerry Staats and Troy Lauder. Voigt PGed at a NE Prep, but went to a public for 4 years before that. The other 3 are native americans who went to a private school, but I'm guessing they didn't grow up in that environment. I will allow you to use a similar methology for Loyola's roster if you'd like. SU had 24% from private schools. However, like Loyola, and I'm sure practically every other division 1 lacrosse team, the public school kids come from some nice places, including Highland Park (TX), Alpharetta (GA), Ridgewood (NJ) and Torrey Pines (CA). Nobody's taking up a collection for those guys.

lol...no offense taken...ever!

I'm just trying to determine the average prep school % figure among D1 teams, since many Hop fans here accuse us Loyola fans of being preppy (even though when you look at their stands, you'd think you accidentally stumbled upon a Pass the Grey Poupon commercial, tweed caps, haute accents, and all). I'm guessing 44% is high relative to mean, except for the Ivies.

I like our guys no matter what's thrown at them! We will be beasts this season...count on that!

Here in Cleveland, I would consider many of the kids that go to St. Ignatius and St. Edwards HS's to come from blue collar background, certainly more than some of the suburbs in the northeast Ohio area.

We have Mr. Ohio, Evan James, on our squad now, so we hope to enlist your cheering this season!

Aidan Olmstead is on my fantasy team. I've been a fan of Loyola for awhile having had Nikko Pontrello, Romar Dennis, John Duffy and Olmstead.

I was just in Dublin, where James is from. It's a huge school district with 3 High Schools.

[laxbro11]

Peter Brown, have you heard anything about the inter-squad scrimmage? Isn't usually the weekend before the alumni game? Did the Freshman live up to the hype? Who stepped up in goal?

[NovaHound]

I was going to ask the same. Any feedback from the scrimmage.

[Peter Brown]

I've heard nothing but I am traveling through 10-8, so I wouldn't.

Hopefully someone else is around and does, and comes here to regale us!

[houndace1]

Looks like you were right about some of the freshman this year PB. Inside Lacrosse released their list of the top 50 freshman midfielders and top 50 attackman

Congrats in order for the following freshman

Midfield: I'm very surprised Najee Taylor didn't make this list...

#28 Evan James 4 star recruit

Attack:

#29 Adam Poitras 4 star recruit
#39 Joey Kamish 4 star recruit
#43 Jack Griffin 3 star recruit

[Lenwood117]

Looks like you were right about some of the freshman this year PB. Inside Lacrosse released their list of the top 50 freshman midfielders and top 50 attackman

Congrats in order for the following freshman

Midfield: I'm very surprised Najee Taylor didn't make this list...

#28 Evan James 4 star recruit

Attack:

#29 Adam Poitras 4 star recruit
#39 Joey Kamish 4 star recruit
#43 Jack Griffin 3 star recruit
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Look at last years top 100 more bust then impact players, some kids that had big years not even on list.