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Re: 2020 Elections - Into the Home Stretch

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:07 am
by Brooklyn
6ftstick wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:04 am

open borders and free healthcare. Nothing here to see just move on. Liberals!

open borders: Reagan and Bush II


free healthcare: still waiting for tRUMP's promised universal health care

Re: 2020 Elections - Into the Home Stretch

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:04 am
by Peter Brown
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:02 am The stupid and ugly are slinging the slime, as usual.

The mud's just not going to stick. That's quickly becoming obvious.

Harris wasn't my top choice of the final candidates, but she's a safe choice to present the sort of credibility and stability that's in high demand.

Omar is too far left for my taste, but she's definitely not anything of the sort the slime throwers want to paint.


I have to assume that what MD is saying here is Ilhan is not a communist. That would of course come as news to Ilhan, whose economic views are no different than Maduro's of Venezuela or Raul Castro's of Cuba.

It's always interesting to see MD come rapidly to the defense of those Democrats whose views are in essence as opposed to American success as can be conceived. Why is that?

Also, I think MD yesterday claimed here that any Republican would have beat HRC in 2016. That also would come as news to anyone with a brain, as it's inconceivable that any Republican not named Trump would have rolled over for HRC like the good Republicans of past. Democrats play to win; Republicans of yesterday played for respect, and got beaten like drums. Meanwhile, Democratic cities are burning down (literally and figuratively) and guys like MD think that's cool because Orange Man Bad or something.

Re: 2020 Elections - Into the Home Stretch

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:10 am
by MDlaxfan76
6ftstick wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:06 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:02 am The stupid and ugly are slinging the slime, as usual.

The mud's just not going to stick. That's quickly becoming obvious.

Harris wasn't my top choice of the final candidates, but she's a safe choice to present the sort of credibility and stability that's in high demand.

Omar is too far left for my taste, but she's definitely not anything of the sort the slime throwers want to paint.
From one of the chief Trump mudslingers and slime spreaders. LOL
Is that what you think I am, a mudslinger and slime spreader?
Really?

Man, the Cult is strong in you.

Re: 2020 Elections - Into the Home Stretch

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:24 am
by MDlaxfan76
Peter Brown wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:04 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:02 am The stupid and ugly are slinging the slime, as usual.

The mud's just not going to stick. That's quickly becoming obvious.

Harris wasn't my top choice of the final candidates, but she's a safe choice to present the sort of credibility and stability that's in high demand.

Omar is too far left for my taste, but she's definitely not anything of the sort the slime throwers want to paint.


I have to assume that what MD is saying here is Ilhan is not a communist. That would of course come as news to Ilhan, whose economic views are no different than Maduro's of Venezuela or Raul Castro's of Cuba.

It's always interesting to see MD come rapidly to the defense of those Democrats whose views are in essence as opposed to American success as can be conceived. Why is that?

Also, I think MD yesterday claimed here that any Republican would have beat HRC in 2016. That also would come as news to anyone with a brain, as it's inconceivable that any Republican not named Trump would have rolled over for HRC like the good Republicans of past. Democrats play to win; Republicans of yesterday played for respect, and got beaten like drums. Meanwhile, Democratic cities are burning down (literally and figuratively) and guys like MD think that's cool because Orange Man Bad or something.
No, I don't think she's a communist of that sort, though she's indeed much farther to the left than my own policy views. I just don't think that painting extremes inaccurately is appropriate, much less from the Trump CULT.

No, I did NOT say "Any" Republican would have beaten Clinton. I said that the moderates such as Jeb and Kasich would have won both the popular vote and the Electoral College. Solidly. It was a change election and Clinton represented an extension of Dem control of the White House, with the extension of the Clinton mafia to boot. She was a miserable candidate and Trump still got trounced in the popular vote. And then has governed with division and anger as his central theme thereafter, narrowing his appeal rather than broadening it.

Trump has been President for nearly 4 years and you say cities are burning, figuratively and literally, under his Presidency. Time for a change? Yup.

The United States is 'burning' from ineptitude, intransigence, and plain stupidity with the COVID response under Trump...time for a change? Yup.

You claim that Republicans had not been playing "to win", yet had controlled the White House for 20 of the 28 years prior the historic candidacy of Obama, indeed 20 to 16 of the 36 years prior to Trump. And reversed the decades long Dem control of Congress, picked up Gov seats, legislatures, etc, all while supposedly not 'playing to win'...

You guys are idiot Cultists, full stop.

I hope the GOP can eventually recover a legitimate ideological alternative to meet the Dems, but it's going to take some time to wash the Trump stink and the racist, nativist stink off.

Re: 2020 Elections - Into the Home Stretch

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:26 am
by ggait
538's forecast is out.

71% chance for Biden; 322 median electoral votes. At 29%, Trump could win by drawing to the flush.

If the election were held today, would be Biden 93%. So Trump would have to draw to the inside straight.

So there's still 3 months to go and plenty of uncertainty -- more so than normal due to Covid.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/20 ... -forecast/

Re: 2020 Elections - Into the Home Stretch

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:32 am
by MDlaxfan76
6ftstick wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:05 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:02 am The stupid and ugly are slinging the slime, as usual.

The mud's just not going to stick. That's quickly becoming obvious.

Harris wasn't my top choice of the final candidates, but she's a safe choice to present the sort of credibility and stability that's in high demand.

Omar is too far left for my taste, but she's definitely not anything of the sort the slime throwers want to paint.
Then why was rejected by democrat voters in the primaries.
Do you mean Harris?

Biden won. Does that mean Harris was "rejected"???
Harris is marginally to the left of Biden, but both represent the moderate wing of that Party.
Biden controlled that wing's support, including the older black vote (quite moderate) so candidates like Kobuchar, Harris and Mayor Pete didn't get enough traction. The far left had two main candidates, Bernie and Warren, so they certainly weren't going to jump to support Harris over their preferred candidates.

So, the only takeaway I see is that the moderate wing is representing the Dems in this Presidential election, not the far left.

If you meant Omar, she won her primary in her district.

Re: 2020 Elections - Into the Home Stretch

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:33 am
by ggait
I said that the moderates such as Jeb and Kasich would have won both the popular vote and the Electoral College. Solidly. It was a change election and Clinton represented an extension of Dem control of the White House, with the extension of the Clinton mafia to boot. She was a miserable candidate and Trump still got trounced in the popular vote.
This is clear. 2016 was a GOP home game. Trump played a strong general election hand poorly, and so had to squeak it out in the electoral college.

Trump's great accomplishment was winning the GOP nomination.

Re: 2020 Elections - Into the Home Stretch

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:36 am
by MDlaxfan76
ggait wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:33 am
I said that the moderates such as Jeb and Kasich would have won both the popular vote and the Electoral College. Solidly. It was a change election and Clinton represented an extension of Dem control of the White House, with the extension of the Clinton mafia to boot. She was a miserable candidate and Trump still got trounced in the popular vote.
This is clear. 2016 was a GOP home game. Trump played a strong general election hand poorly, and so had to squeak it out in the electoral college.

Trump's great accomplishment was winning the GOP nomination.
With a minority of GOP voters...

His other 'accomplishment' has been his consolidation, by subtraction, of the GOP as his and his alone.

Re: 2020 Elections - Into the Home Stretch

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:43 am
by ardilla secreta
Brooklyn wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:07 am
6ftstick wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:04 am

open borders and free healthcare. Nothing here to see just move on. Liberals!

open borders: Reagan and Bush II


free healthcare: still waiting for tRUMP's promised universal health care
When is the scheduled announcement of the Trump healthcare scheme? It’s supposed to cover everyone and be the best ever.

Re: 2020 Elections - Into the Home Stretch

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:22 pm
by Brooklyn
ardilla secreta wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:43 am
When is the scheduled announcement of the Trump healthcare scheme? It’s supposed to cover everyone and be the best ever.


After several delays he promised it would be released two weeks ago. Still waiting ...

Re: 2020 Elections - Into the Home Stretch

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:45 pm
by Peter Brown
Chicago BLM organizer says looting is just "reparations".

“I don’t care if someone decides to loot a Gucci or a Macy’s or a Nike store, because that makes sure that person eats,” Ariel Atkins, a BLM organizer, said. “That makes sure that person has clothes. That is reparations. Anything they wanted to take, they can take it because these businesses have insurance.”

To be fair to her, is there really any difference between what she says and the entire Democratic Party economic platform? I mean, insurance is free, right?!? :lol:

(it's hard to understand how anyone with a modicum of intelligence and self-respect attaches themselves to the Democratic party; bewildering doesn't begin to describe one's thoughts on this puzzle)

Re: 2020 Elections - Into the Home Stretch

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:51 pm
by seacoaster
Peter Brown wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:45 pm Chicago BLM organizer says looting is just "reparations".

“I don’t care if someone decides to loot a Gucci or a Macy’s or a Nike store, because that makes sure that person eats,” Ariel Atkins, a BLM organizer, said. “That makes sure that person has clothes. That is reparations. Anything they wanted to take, they can take it because these businesses have insurance.”

To be fair to her, is there really any difference between what she says and the entire Democratic Party economic platform? I mean, insurance is free, right?!? :lol:

(it's hard to understand how anyone with a modicum of intelligence and self-respect attaches themselves to the Democratic party; bewildering doesn't begin to describe one's thoughts on this puzzle)
How about a glass of STFU?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/tr ... Fstory-ans

Re: 2020 Elections - Into the Home Stretch

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:53 pm
by jhu72

Re: 2020 Elections - Into the Home Stretch

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:58 pm
by Peter Brown
seacoaster wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:51 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:45 pm Chicago BLM organizer says looting is just "reparations".

“I don’t care if someone decides to loot a Gucci or a Macy’s or a Nike store, because that makes sure that person eats,” Ariel Atkins, a BLM organizer, said. “That makes sure that person has clothes. That is reparations. Anything they wanted to take, they can take it because these businesses have insurance.”

To be fair to her, is there really any difference between what she says and the entire Democratic Party economic platform? I mean, insurance is free, right?!? :lol:

(it's hard to understand how anyone with a modicum of intelligence and self-respect attaches themselves to the Democratic party; bewildering doesn't begin to describe one's thoughts on this puzzle)
How about a glass of STFU?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/tr ... Fstory-ans


Did aviation companies taking PPP have something to do with BLM/Democrats saying looting is reparations?

Please educate thyself: https://www.sba.gov/funding-programs/lo ... on-program

Oh the modern Democrat: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offences at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all. Believe none of us.

Re: 2020 Elections - Into the Home Stretch

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:31 pm
by cradleandshoot
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... d-cop.html

Looks like the Biden people are going to have to break out the knee pads when dealing with the far left wing. They ain't a liking the Kamala pick all that much. I wonder how the dems buy their silence? :D I wonder how Joe looks in a blue dress? :o

Re: 2020 Elections - Into the Home Stretch

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:40 pm
by Peter Brown
cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:31 pm https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... d-cop.html

Looks like the Biden people are going to have to break out the knee pads when dealing with the far left wing. They ain't a liking the Kamala pick all that much. I wonder how the dems buy their silence? :D I wonder how Joe looks in a blue dress? :o


They'll buy off a few unprincipled progs who need some cash, to help quiet the revolution. Kamala will be asked to go socialist on us (which she doesn't really believe; her husband is a white shoe lawyer whose firm depends on private equity for their bonuses).

But it will be fun watching the house burn.

Watch for Republicans to get Tulsi to make a virtual speech on how unprincipled Kamala is, as well as being an enemy to black people.

More popcorn please! :lol:

Re: 2020 Elections - Into the Home Stretch

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:51 pm
by njbill
cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:31 pm https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... d-cop.html

Looks like the Biden people are going to have to break out the knee pads when dealing with the far left wing. They ain't a liking the Kamala pick all that much. I wonder how the dems buy their silence? :D I wonder how Joe looks in a blue dress? :o
The Daily Mail? Now there’s a reputable source if there ever was one. :lol:

Re: 2020 Elections - Into the Home Stretch

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:23 pm
by cradleandshoot
njbill wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:51 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:31 pm https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... d-cop.html

Looks like the Biden people are going to have to break out the knee pads when dealing with the far left wing. They ain't a liking the Kamala pick all that much. I wonder how the dems buy their silence? :D I wonder how Joe looks in a blue dress? :o
The Daily Mail? Now there’s a reputable source if there ever was one. :lol:
Did they make up all those quotes they published? A broken clock is right twice a day. If what they published here is bogus, please let me know. :mrgreen:
She also writes articles for AP. Are they reputable?

Re: 2020 Elections - Into the Home Stretch

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:37 pm
by CU77
And while Bernie Sanders, who had been one of Biden's rivals for the Democratic nomination, congratulated Harris on Twitter, saying she 'understands what it takes to stand up for working people', several of his supporters disagreed with the decision.
"several" !!! Oh no, "several" Bernie fans, who didn't support Biden anyway, now still don't support Biden!!!

Pass the smelling salts!

Meanwhile, Bernie himself will be all-in, including a rousing pro-Biden/Harris speech at next week's convention.

Re: 2020 Elections - Into the Home Stretch

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:39 pm
by CU77
Is Harris a liberal extremist or a snub to liberal extremists? The GOP can’t decide.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... nt-decide/