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Re: Our Undeclared Wars

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:40 am
by old salt
Kismet wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:27 am They were reportedly not aware of his decision to cross into NK for the photo op with his Fatso dictator love interest. :oops:
So what ? It was widely speculated in the media that he might do so. It should not have been a surprise.
It was a Secret Service issue, not a DoD issue. "to cross into NK" is a hyperbolic exaggeration of what actually happened.

Re: Our Undeclared Wars

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:46 am
by Kismet
old salt wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:40 am
Kismet wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:27 am They were reportedly not aware of his decision to cross into NK for the photo op with his Fatso dictator love interest. :oops:
So what ? It was widely speculated in the media that he might do so. It should not have been a surprise.
It was a Secret Service issue, not a DoD issue. "to cross into NK" is a hyperbolic exaggeration of what actually happened.
Your double standard is showing again. :oops:
Like clockwork. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Our Undeclared Wars

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:48 am
by old salt
Kismet wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:46 am
old salt wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:40 am
Kismet wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:27 am They were reportedly not aware of his decision to cross into NK for the photo op with his Fatso dictator love interest. :oops:
So what ? It was widely speculated in the media that he might do so. It should not have been a surprise.
It was a Secret Service issue, not a DoD issue. "to cross into NK" is a hyperbolic exaggeration of what actually happened.
Your double standard is showing again. :oops:
Like clockwork. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Your bogus comparisons are showing again. It was symbolic & not a threat.
...it's better than having NK provide artillery shells & ballistic missiles to Russia & Iran.

Re: Our Undeclared Wars

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:50 am
by Kismet
old salt wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:48 am
Kismet wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:46 am
old salt wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:40 am
Kismet wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:27 am They were reportedly not aware of his decision to cross into NK for the photo op with his Fatso dictator love interest. :oops:
So what ? It was widely speculated in the media that he might do so. It should not have been a surprise.
It was a Secret Service issue, not a DoD issue. "to cross into NK" is a hyperbolic exaggeration of what actually happened.
Your double standard is showing again. :oops:
Like clockwork. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Your bogus comparisons are showing again.
It was symbolic & not a threat. ...it's better than having NK provide artillery shells & ballistic missiles to Russia & Iran.
I'll grant that you're an expert on bogus comparisons. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Our Undeclared Wars

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:52 am
by old salt
Kismet wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:50 am
old salt wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:48 am
Kismet wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:46 am
old salt wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:40 am
Kismet wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:27 am They were reportedly not aware of his decision to cross into NK for the photo op with his Fatso dictator love interest. :oops:
So what ? It was widely speculated in the media that he might do so. It should not have been a surprise.
It was a Secret Service issue, not a DoD issue. "to cross into NK" is a hyperbolic exaggeration of what actually happened.
Your double standard is showing again. :oops:
Like clockwork. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Your bogus comparisons are showing again.
It was symbolic & not a threat. ...it's better than having NK provide artillery shells & ballistic missiles to Russia & Iran.
I'll grant that you're an expert on bogus comparisons. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Have to be to respond to the volume of them you conjure up.

Re: Our Undeclared Wars

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:12 am
by cradleandshoot
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:24 am
old salt wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:01 am
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:19 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:57 am
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:30 pm What Kismet said above.

Also, for the second time, how many people in the US Military have been injured by Iranian IEDs since Biden took office?
The estimates are just under 1000 KIA and several thousand more severely injured. Not that most folks on this forum give a chit about that nor do they have any interest in making Iran provide restitution. God Bless America... That billion should have been held in escrow until Iran to honor the default judgement against Iran. To paraphrase something a Fan says frequently...you break it you buy it.
1,000 US military personnel have been killed in action and several thousand more have been severely injured by Iranian IEDs since January 2021?

I'd love to read up on that if you have anything to back up those numbers? I'm seeing 13 total deaths by hostile action for 2021-2022. And those were in Afghanistan I believe.

:|
Most of the Iranian IED casualties came during our deployments in Iraq since 2003. He cited cases in 2009 & 2011.

He also said that what Iran's been doing since Jan 2021 was a different issue. I believe he was referring to attacks by Iran's proxies targeting US forces in Iraq & Syria, & now the Red Sea, sonce Biden took office.
So Iranian IEDs have not killed 1,000 US military personnel and injured several thousand more since Biden took office.

Have they killed or injured any US military personnel since then?
Read the link I posted. They document 73 cases tried in a court of law and the verdict was guilty. The cumulative total beginning in 2003 until 2018 is what the article says it is. While your trying to deflect guilt the facts are what this court decision says they are.

Re: Our Undeclared Wars

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:26 am
by cradleandshoot
old salt wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:37 am
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:24 am
old salt wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:01 am
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:19 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:57 am
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:30 pm What Kismet said above.

Also, for the second time, how many people in the US Military have been injured by Iranian IEDs since Biden took office?
The estimates are just under 1000 KIA and several thousand more severely injured. Not that most folks on this forum give a chit about that nor do they have any interest in making Iran provide restitution. God Bless America... That billion should have been held in escrow until Iran to honor the default judgement against Iran. To paraphrase something a Fan says frequently...you break it you buy it.
1,000 US military personnel have been killed in action and several thousand more have been severely injured by Iranian IEDs since January 2021?

I'd love to read up on that if you have anything to back up those numbers? I'm seeing 13 total deaths by hostile action for 2021-2022. And those were in Afghanistan I believe.

:|
Most of the Iranian IED casualties came during our deployments in Iraq since 2003. He cited cases in 2009 & 2011.

He also said that what Iran's been doing since Jan 2021 was a different issue. I believe he was referring to attacks by Iran's proxies targeting US forces in Iraq & Syria, & now the Red Sea, sonce Biden took office.
So Iranian IEDs have not killed 1,000 US military personnel and injured several thousand more since Biden took office.

Have they killed or injured any US military personnel since then?
The Iranians arm their proxies, who do the killing on their behalf.
Why is this such a difficult concept for some folks on this forum to understand? They whine and complain that there is no proof that Iran did anything wrong. Then when proof is presented to them in the form of a default judgement they ignore that fact completely. Read the post that I linked to. Then we can all have a discussion based on all of the facts. I read the entire article and I encourage everyone on this forum to do the same. Then explain to me again that there is no proof that Iran did anything wrong.

Re: Our Undeclared Wars

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:28 am
by cradleandshoot
old salt wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:52 am
Kismet wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:50 am
old salt wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:48 am
Kismet wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:46 am
old salt wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:40 am
Kismet wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:27 am They were reportedly not aware of his decision to cross into NK for the photo op with his Fatso dictator love interest. :oops:
So what ? It was widely speculated in the media that he might do so. It should not have been a surprise.
It was a Secret Service issue, not a DoD issue. "to cross into NK" is a hyperbolic exaggeration of what actually happened.
Your double standard is showing again. :oops:
Like clockwork. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Your bogus comparisons are showing again.
It was symbolic & not a threat. ...it's better than having NK provide artillery shells & ballistic missiles to Russia & Iran.
I'll grant that you're an expert on bogus comparisons. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Have to be to respond to the volume of them you conjure up.
+1...😄

Re: Our Undeclared Wars

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:33 am
by cradleandshoot
old salt wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:37 am
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:24 am
old salt wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:01 am
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:19 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:57 am
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:30 pm What Kismet said above.

Also, for the second time, how many people in the US Military have been injured by Iranian IEDs since Biden took office?
The estimates are just under 1000 KIA and several thousand more severely injured. Not that most folks on this forum give a chit about that nor do they have any interest in making Iran provide restitution. God Bless America... That billion should have been held in escrow until Iran to honor the default judgement against Iran. To paraphrase something a Fan says frequently...you break it you buy it.
1,000 US military personnel have been killed in action and several thousand more have been severely injured by Iranian IEDs since January 2021?

I'd love to read up on that if you have anything to back up those numbers? I'm seeing 13 total deaths by hostile action for 2021-2022. And those were in Afghanistan I believe.

:|
Most of the Iranian IED casualties came during our deployments in Iraq since 2003. He cited cases in 2009 & 2011.

He also said that what Iran's been doing since Jan 2021 was a different issue. I believe he was referring to attacks by Iran's proxies targeting US forces in Iraq & Syria, & now the Red Sea, sonce Biden took office.
So Iranian IEDs have not killed 1,000 US military personnel and injured several thousand more since Biden took office.

Have they killed or injured any US military personnel since then?
The Iranians arm their proxies, who do the killing on their behalf.
Astonishing it is OS that you need to explain this fact to some folks on this forum. Maybe there is no proof? ;)

Re: Our Undeclared Wars

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 12:12 pm
by MDlaxfan76
cradleandshoot wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 8:15 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 8:04 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:57 am
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:30 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:00 pm So lets back up the bus then. Should Iran be held responsible for the carnage they have caused??? That 6 billion dollars would have helped a lot of US service members that died and lost their arms and legs. Unless you can simply disregard that and cheer for the fact these murdering mother effers in Iran just cashed a huge paycheck?? That is some brilliant freaking logic, simply freaking brilliant..... :roll: One positive thing I could say about trump... I betcha he would have never given that 6 billion back to Iran. That's a Joe Biden thang ain't it???
What Kismet said above.

Also, for the second time, how many people in the US Military have been injured by Iranian IEDs since Biden took office?
The estimates are just under 1000 KIA and several thousand more severely injured. Not that most folks on this forum give a chit about that nor do they have any interest in making Iran provide restitution. God Bless America... That billion should have been held in escrow until Iran to honor the default judgement against Iran. To paraphrase something a Fan says frequently...you break it you buy it.
I believe he meant the office of President...since January 2021.
My point has been a number of individuals on this forum have declared that there is no proof against Iran doing anything wrong. I will give you the same advice you have frequently given to me...did you read the entire article?? this is not me saying this, this is a court of law issuing this default judgement against Iran. I understand all the legal pitfalls involved in putting a freeze on these Iranian funds. I also understand the power the US government has if it chose to do so to put a freeze on these funds until this default judgement is answered by the Iranian government. My main point was to respond to the folks on this forum who told me repeatedly that there was no proof the Iranian government did anything wrong. Well according to the default judgement well yes they did do something wrong they murdered US service personal. If the issue is what has Iran done since January 2021, that is another discussion all together. Im guessing the Israeli army dealing with the same environment of EFPs in Gaza that the US military did in Iraq and Afghanistan. If Iran has a bone to pick with us then bring it out in the open and declare war with the US. They speak frequently that that is what they would like to do.
First, I don't recall ANYONE (even Brooklyn) claiming that "Iran did nothing wrong", or "have declared that there is no proof against Iran doing anything wrong".

That would be apparently absurd statement to make. It's certainly far from the consensus view of Iran's history with America over the past 45 years.

Second, the question was as bolded. You haven't answered that question. Maybe because you don't know (I don't know precisely for sure, but I think the answer is close to or equal to zero). Or maybe you don't want to say?

That said, it's not as if Iran hasn't done all sorts of things that have hurt Americans or damaged American interests these past 3 years, much less earlier. IEDs aren't the only thing Iran has done "wrong", whether recently or in the past.

Of course, one can make an argument that America has done various things "wrong" to Iranians and Iran in the past or recently.

But this $6 billion we'd placed a freeze upon was never accessible to the US for compensation for any damages to Americans, nor did it get released to the Iranian government for its discretionary use. Focus on the facts if you want to make an argument against having unfrozen those funds, with strict control by Quatar with tight limitations on their usage, in exchange for release of American hostages.

There's an argument to be made, but no need to make specious claims.

Re: Our Undeclared Wars

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 12:20 pm
by MDlaxfan76
cradleandshoot wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:33 am
old salt wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:37 am
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:24 am
old salt wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:01 am
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:19 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:57 am
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:30 pm What Kismet said above.

Also, for the second time, how many people in the US Military have been injured by Iranian IEDs since Biden took office?
The estimates are just under 1000 KIA and several thousand more severely injured. Not that most folks on this forum give a chit about that nor do they have any interest in making Iran provide restitution. God Bless America... That billion should have been held in escrow until Iran to honor the default judgement against Iran. To paraphrase something a Fan says frequently...you break it you buy it.
1,000 US military personnel have been killed in action and several thousand more have been severely injured by Iranian IEDs since January 2021?

I'd love to read up on that if you have anything to back up those numbers? I'm seeing 13 total deaths by hostile action for 2021-2022. And those were in Afghanistan I believe.

:|
Most of the Iranian IED casualties came during our deployments in Iraq since 2003. He cited cases in 2009 & 2011.

He also said that what Iran's been doing since Jan 2021 was a different issue. I believe he was referring to attacks by Iran's proxies targeting US forces in Iraq & Syria, & now the Red Sea, sonce Biden took office.
So Iranian IEDs have not killed 1,000 US military personnel and injured several thousand more since Biden took office.

Have they killed or injured any US military personnel since then?
The Iranians arm their proxies, who do the killing on their behalf.
Astonishing it is OS that you need to explain this fact to some folks on this forum. Maybe there is no proof? ;)
Assuming that all explosions etc in the Middle East, other than accidents, that have injured or killed American military personnel were actually funded by or using the arms materiel of Iran, what are you guys saying those numbers are in the 3 years since January 2021? There've been some recent injuries, right? Since Oct 7?

Re: Our Undeclared Wars

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 12:23 pm
by MDlaxfan76
Kismet wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2024 7:16 pm 16 ships of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards severely damaged after an explosion on the coast of Iran.
The ships were allegedly transporting weapons to Houthi terrorists in Yemen, who have attacked international cargo ships and U.S. warships in the Red Sea.
Wait a second, were these ships blown up by American made or paid for rockets? Any proof they weren't? ;)

To be clear, glad to see this action, but the hypocrisy is astounding.

Re: Our Undeclared Wars

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 12:32 pm
by MDlaxfan76
old salt wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:40 am
Kismet wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:27 am They were reportedly not aware of his decision to cross into NK for the photo op with his Fatso dictator love interest. :oops:
So what ? It was widely speculated in the media that he might do so. It should not have been a surprise.
It was a Secret Service issue, not a DoD issue. "to cross into NK" is a hyperbolic exaggeration of what actually happened.
You asked:

"When was Trump ever out of the loop with his national security chain of command ?"

You could argue that the national security chain of command was "out of the loop", not Trump...but they sure weren't on the same page.

We don't know how many other times they weren't, but Esper says that Trump was asking for the military to shoot Americans in the street...Esper's breaking point apparently.

Re: Our Undeclared Wars

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 12:37 pm
by NattyBohChamps04
cradleandshoot wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:26 am
old salt wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:37 am
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:24 am
old salt wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:01 am
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:19 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:57 am
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:30 pm What Kismet said above.

Also, for the second time, how many people in the US Military have been injured by Iranian IEDs since Biden took office?
The estimates are just under 1000 KIA and several thousand more severely injured. Not that most folks on this forum give a chit about that nor do they have any interest in making Iran provide restitution. God Bless America... That billion should have been held in escrow until Iran to honor the default judgement against Iran. To paraphrase something a Fan says frequently...you break it you buy it.
1,000 US military personnel have been killed in action and several thousand more have been severely injured by Iranian IEDs since January 2021?

I'd love to read up on that if you have anything to back up those numbers? I'm seeing 13 total deaths by hostile action for 2021-2022. And those were in Afghanistan I believe.

:|
Most of the Iranian IED casualties came during our deployments in Iraq since 2003. He cited cases in 2009 & 2011.

He also said that what Iran's been doing since Jan 2021 was a different issue. I believe he was referring to attacks by Iran's proxies targeting US forces in Iraq & Syria, & now the Red Sea, sonce Biden took office.
So Iranian IEDs have not killed 1,000 US military personnel and injured several thousand more since Biden took office.

Have they killed or injured any US military personnel since then?
The Iranians arm their proxies, who do the killing on their behalf.
Why is this such a difficult concept for some folks on this forum to understand? They whine and complain that there is no proof that Iran did anything wrong. Then when proof is presented to them in the form of a default judgement they ignore that fact completely. Read the post that I linked to. Then we can all have a discussion based on all of the facts. I read the entire article and I encourage everyone on this forum to do the same. Then explain to me again that there is no proof that Iran did anything wrong.

LOL when did I say Iran did nothing wrong?

I had one simple question I asked you multiple times that you never answered.

"how many people in the US Military have been injured by Iranian IEDs since Biden took office?"

And you came back with the people who were injured and killed a decade and a half before Biden took office. :lol:

Reading is fundamental.

Re: Our Undeclared Wars

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 12:42 pm
by a fan
old salt wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:08 am When was Trump ever out of the loop with his national security chain of command ?
Oh, only about twice a day. You, yourself, praised these Generals for trying to keep Trump from doing real damage.

Defense Secretary James Mattis learned in May from a colleague that President Donald Trump had made the decision to withdraw the U.S. from the Iran nuclear deal, and scrambled to get his boss on the phone before a formal announcement was made. It wouldn't be the last time he was caught off guard by a presidential announcement.

A month later, Mattis was informed that Trump had ordered a pause in U.S. military exercises with South Korea only after the president had already promised the concession to North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.

Last week, Trump again blindsided and overruled his defense secretary by publicly directing the Pentagon to create a sixth military branch overseeing operations in space.

Re: Our Undeclared Wars

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 1:02 pm
by NattyBohChamps04
old salt wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:37 am
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:24 am
So Iranian IEDs have not killed 1,000 US military personnel and injured several thousand more since Biden took office.

Have they killed or injured any US military personnel since then?
The Iranians arm their proxies, who do the killing on their behalf.
Since you and C&S can't seem to answer a simple question, I went to look it up myself.

According to wikipedia, it looks like at least 69 US servicemen have been injured by Iranian backed militias in Iraq and Syria. One private contractor died of a heart attack in one of the attacks. These were mostly in late 2023 via drone and missile attacks. Looks like one patrol was hit with an IED.

We've killed dozens of them in response and blown up a number of their facilities. And we've taken out some of their leadership.

We've also imposed new sanctions on Iran and renewed old UN sanctions that expired.

Re: Our Undeclared Wars

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 1:36 pm
by cradleandshoot
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 12:37 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:26 am
old salt wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:37 am
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:24 am
old salt wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:01 am
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:19 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:57 am
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:30 pm What Kismet said above.

Also, for the second time, how many people in the US Military have been injured by Iranian IEDs since Biden took office?
The estimates are just under 1000 KIA and several thousand more severely injured. Not that most folks on this forum give a chit about that nor do they have any interest in making Iran provide restitution. God Bless America... That billion should have been held in escrow until Iran to honor the default judgement against Iran. To paraphrase something a Fan says frequently...you break it you buy it.
1,000 US military personnel have been killed in action and several thousand more have been severely injured by Iranian IEDs since January 2021?

I'd love to read up on that if you have anything to back up those numbers? I'm seeing 13 total deaths by hostile action for 2021-2022. And those were in Afghanistan I believe.

:|
Most of the Iranian IED casualties came during our deployments in Iraq since 2003. He cited cases in 2009 & 2011.

He also said that what Iran's been doing since Jan 2021 was a different issue. I believe he was referring to attacks by Iran's proxies targeting US forces in Iraq & Syria, & now the Red Sea, sonce Biden took office.
So Iranian IEDs have not killed 1,000 US military personnel and injured several thousand more since Biden took office.

Have they killed or injured any US military personnel since then?
The Iranians arm their proxies, who do the killing on their behalf.
Why is this such a difficult concept for some folks on this forum to understand? They whine and complain that there is no proof that Iran did anything wrong. Then when proof is presented to them in the form of a default judgement they ignore that fact completely. Read the post that I linked to. Then we can all have a discussion based on all of the facts. I read the entire article and I encourage everyone on this forum to do the same. Then explain to me again that there is no proof that Iran did anything wrong.

LOL when did I say Iran did nothing wrong?

I had one simple question I asked you multiple times that you never answered.

"how many people in the US Military have been injured by Iranian IEDs since Biden took office?"

And you came back with the people who were injured and killed a decade and a half before Biden took office. :lol:

Reading is fundamental.
Reading is fundamental. Read the link that I posted. The point of discussion is actually relevant. Iran has worked diligently since 2003 to manufacture the devastating EFP devises that have killed and maimed so many of our service members. If you have not read the link I posted there is no reason for you to chime in. Do 73 default judgements against Iran in a United States court of law hold any weight with you?? You might want to get up to speed about what the conversation is all about.

Re: Our Undeclared Wars

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 3:53 pm
by NattyBohChamps04
cradleandshoot wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 1:36 pm
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 12:37 pm LOL when did I say Iran did nothing wrong?

I had one simple question I asked you multiple times that you never answered.

"how many people in the US Military have been injured by Iranian IEDs since Biden took office?"

And you came back with the people who were injured and killed a decade and a half before Biden took office. :lol:

Reading is fundamental.
Reading is fundamental. Read the link that I posted. The point of discussion is actually relevant. Iran has worked diligently since 2003 to manufacture the devastating EFP devises that have killed and maimed so many of our service members. If you have not read the link I posted there is no reason for you to chime in. Do 73 default judgements against Iran in a United States court of law hold any weight with you?? You might want to get up to speed about what the conversation is all about.
Was already up to speed. I asked you a question directly related to the discussion, which you never answered. But went off on a tangent instead.

Was a very simple question too.

Re: Our Undeclared Wars

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 10:41 am
by cradleandshoot
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 3:53 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 1:36 pm
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 12:37 pm LOL when did I say Iran did nothing wrong?

I had one simple question I asked you multiple times that you never answered.

"how many people in the US Military have been injured by Iranian IEDs since Biden took office?"

And you came back with the people who were injured and killed a decade and a half before Biden took office. :lol:

Reading is fundamental.
Reading is fundamental. Read the link that I posted. The point of discussion is actually relevant. Iran has worked diligently since 2003 to manufacture the devastating EFP devises that have killed and maimed so many of our service members. If you have not read the link I posted there is no reason for you to chime in. Do 73 default judgements against Iran in a United States court of law hold any weight with you?? You might want to get up to speed about what the conversation is all about.
Was already up to speed. I asked you a question directly related to the discussion, which you never answered. But went off on a tangent instead.

Was a very simple question too.
Sorry I missed your question. If you want to repeat your question I'll be happy to give you a response. I ask questions all of the time here that none of you cowards will answer. Maybe I'll give you a very simple response. That will still most likely be too complex for you to reply to. Go for it hero... ask me your simple question. I already know that simple minds ask simple questions. Your mind is as simple as they come.....

Re: Our Undeclared Wars

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 11:02 am
by kramerica.inc
46 people were injured in a spate of Iranian IED attacks just this fall.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nation ... rcna123591