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MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:55 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:56 pm Shep Smith just announced he is leaving Faux News. Wonder why?

Now, now, you just differentiated between Fox News and Faux News.

But Shep's departure will be another big loss to the credibility of the News division.
It's a shame.

I wonder whether they pushed him out or they were demanding that he say things he knew were not true?

If it were really Fox News, would he be leaving?

I suspect this event will have some impact in the world of right wing news. People who are interested in truth will notice. I don't think this is good news for Trump or Fox News. Pretty strong argument against those arguing the right is where they gladly listen to opinions / news they don't agree with.

The Giuliani quagmire is fast becoming a very possible back breaking straw. When does he go on Fox News again? Ya gotta love Trump and all his cronies. "Perfect" people every one. We better get rid of the corruption in Ukraine before they investigate us.

“Secretary of State Pompeo brilliant. Harvard Law. West Point. Mil vet. Congressman. CIA Director. Failed business deals. Bible on desk. How could he tolerate Giuliani and two corrupt thugs undermining our superb Ukraine Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch?

Gen McCaffrey

Diplomat's written statement in advance of her testimony:

https://games-cdn.washingtonpost.com/no ... pdf#page=1

jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:39 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:21 pm Why can't the nation just get it over with and drag trump out into the street and give him the Joan of Arc treatment. beat him to a bloody pulp and then burn him at the stake and then give him the Mussolini treatment and hang his carcass from a lamppost on a bridge. If I know some of the posters on this forum that would still not be good enough to assuage the hatred and anger in your souls. Maybe throwing in Mike Pence might make all of you feel better... After all... LOVE TRUMPS HATE. i hope i have not offended the sensitivities of a certain poster here. i feel so very bad if i did.

I would prefer the Benito Mussolini treatment. Publically beaten, dragged through the streets and then hung up for public viewing by Italian citizens.

benito-mussolini-death-photo-u1.jpg

Sic semper tyrannis

I don't think this treatment would assuage the anger of a number of people who post here. Dis might even say it was torture... and we know how he feels about torture. Dis might allow an exception if the barbarianism is being laid out on trump.

jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 7:01 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:55 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:56 pm Shep Smith just announced he is leaving Faux News. Wonder why?

Now, now, you just differentiated between Fox News and Faux News.

But Shep's departure will be another big loss to the credibility of the News division.
It's a shame.

I wonder whether they pushed him out or they were demanding that he say things he knew were not true?

If it were really Fox News, would he be leaving?

I suspect this event will have some impact in the world of right wing news. People who are interested in truth will notice. I don't think this is good news for Trump or Fox News. Pretty strong argument against those arguing the right is where they gladly listen to opinions / news they don't agree with.

The writing has been on the wall for along time about Shep's displeasure with Trump and of his former network. The fact that this comes as such a surprise to the FLP base on this forum is more puzzling to me. You folks always seem to be acutely attuned to everything that happens at Fox. If you all had been paying any attention Shep has been riding trump hard for months. Stop watching Hannity and look at the big picture. I was going to insert a sarcastic comment but out of respect to the sensitive feelings of a certain person... I held back.

CS -- what exactly does FLP mean? I honestly can't figure it out.

FYI, I'm a swing voter in a swing state. McCain (primary), Obama, Romney. Voted for Hillary because I would rather stick pins in my eyes than vote for an unfit jerk like Trump. I'm hardly an AOC-loving lib-tard, but I am as strong a never-Trumper as you could find. I'd vote for anyone/anything to be rid of him.

So when righties go hard to "own the libs", they're totally not owning me. What I hear/see is just embarassing Trump enablement. Like my home state Senator Corey Gardner the other day. He's been a pretty good senator and the kind of GOP type I like to vote for if I can. But he's dead to me now, especially when running against a reasonable guy like Hickenlooper.

P.S. Trump should be impeached/removed for this Uke thing (and the Mueller thing too). 100% obvious that he deserves it. But it's fine with me if is he gets booted by the voters instead.

ggait wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2019 4:48 pm CS -- what exactly does FLP mean? I honestly can't figure it out.

FYI, I'm a swing voter in a swing state. McCain, Obama, Romney. Voted for Hillary because I would rather stick pins in my eyes than vote for an unfit jerk like Trump. I'm hardly an AOC-loving lib-tard, but I am as strong a never-Trumper as you could find. I'd vote for anyone/anything to be rid of him.

So when righties go hard to "own the libs", they're totally not owning me. What I hear/see is just embarassing Trump enablement. Like my home state Senator Corey Gardner the other day. He's been a pretty good senator and the kind of GOP type I like to vote for if I can. But he's dead to me now, especially when running against a reasonable guy like Hickenlooper.

P.S. Trump should be impeached/removed for this Uke thing (and the Mueller thing too). 100% obvious that he deserves it. But it's fine with me if is he gets booted by the voters instead.

Dude rarely uses “FRP” unless prompted. Speaks to his mindset.

“Occasionally, while on the phone with foreign heads of state, Trump has handed the receiver to his daughter, Ivanka Trump, so she can talk with the leader, according to an individual with firsthand knowledge.”

Julie Pace AP

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2019 1:36 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 7:01 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:55 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:56 pm Shep Smith just announced he is leaving Faux News. Wonder why?

Now, now, you just differentiated between Fox News and Faux News.

But Shep's departure will be another big loss to the credibility of the News division.
It's a shame.

I wonder whether they pushed him out or they were demanding that he say things he knew were not true?

If it were really Fox News, would he be leaving?

I suspect this event will have some impact in the world of right wing news. People who are interested in truth will notice. I don't think this is good news for Trump or Fox News. Pretty strong argument against those arguing the right is where they gladly listen to opinions / news they don't agree with.

The writing has been on the wall for along time about Shep's displeasure with Trump and of his former network. The fact that this comes as such a surprise to the FLP base on this forum is more puzzling to me. You folks always seem to be acutely attuned to everything that happens at Fox. If you all had been paying any attention Shep has been riding trump hard for months. Stop watching Hannity and look at the big picture. I was going to insert a sarcastic comment but out of respect to the sensitive feelings of a certain person... I held back.

I wonder why you think we're all knuckleheads on here, cradle, have no clue who Shep Smith is, where he's been on Trump for many months. Why do you think we're clueless about Fox?

He's been one of a very small # of straight journalists on Fox calling out Trump's most egregious lies and dishonor. That's earned him Trump's ire and that of Trump's biggest toadies on his own, now former network. Undoubtedly many death threats.

I think what we are seeing with Shep's departure is the Trump effect at Fox, just as it has totally cowed the GOP.

I don't see this ending until Trumpism is thoroughly repudiated, whether at the polls or through removal for 'high crimes and misdemeanors'.

Barr meeting with Rupert Murdoch...

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:23 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2019 1:36 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 7:01 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:55 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:56 pm Shep Smith just announced he is leaving Faux News. Wonder why?

Now, now, you just differentiated between Fox News and Faux News.

But Shep's departure will be another big loss to the credibility of the News division.
It's a shame.

I wonder whether they pushed him out or they were demanding that he say things he knew were not true?

If it were really Fox News, would he be leaving?

I suspect this event will have some impact in the world of right wing news. People who are interested in truth will notice. I don't think this is good news for Trump or Fox News. Pretty strong argument against those arguing the right is where they gladly listen to opinions / news they don't agree with.

The writing has been on the wall for along time about Shep's displeasure with Trump and of his former network. The fact that this comes as such a surprise to the FLP base on this forum is more puzzling to me. You folks always seem to be acutely attuned to everything that happens at Fox. If you all had been paying any attention Shep has been riding trump hard for months. Stop watching Hannity and look at the big picture. I was going to insert a sarcastic comment but out of respect to the sensitive feelings of a certain person... I held back.

I wonder why you think we're all knuckleheads on here, cradle, have no clue who Shep Smith is, where he's been on Trump for many months. Why do you think we're clueless about Fox?

He's been one of a very small # of straight journalists on Fox calling out Trump's most egregious lies and dishonor. That's earned him Trump's ire and that of Trump's biggest toadies on his own, now former network. Undoubtedly many death threats.

I think what we are seeing with Shep's departure is the Trump effect at Fox, just as it has totally cowed the GOP.

I don't see this ending until Trumpism is thoroughly repudiated, whether at the polls or through removal for 'high crimes and misdemeanors'.

Barr meeting with Rupert Murdoch...

There are rumblings that Shep has a sexual case against him and he resigned...maybe the argument w/Tucker was planned distraction.

Some people say, not me but some people.

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:34 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:23 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2019 1:36 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 7:01 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:55 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:56 pm Shep Smith just announced he is leaving Faux News. Wonder why?

Now, now, you just differentiated between Fox News and Faux News.

But Shep's departure will be another big loss to the credibility of the News division.
It's a shame.

I wonder whether they pushed him out or they were demanding that he say things he knew were not true?

If it were really Fox News, would he be leaving?

I suspect this event will have some impact in the world of right wing news. People who are interested in truth will notice. I don't think this is good news for Trump or Fox News. Pretty strong argument against those arguing the right is where they gladly listen to opinions / news they don't agree with.

The writing has been on the wall for along time about Shep's displeasure with Trump and of his former network. The fact that this comes as such a surprise to the FLP base on this forum is more puzzling to me. You folks always seem to be acutely attuned to everything that happens at Fox. If you all had been paying any attention Shep has been riding trump hard for months. Stop watching Hannity and look at the big picture. I was going to insert a sarcastic comment but out of respect to the sensitive feelings of a certain person... I held back.

I wonder why you think we're all knuckleheads on here, cradle, have no clue who Shep Smith is, where he's been on Trump for many months. Why do you think we're clueless about Fox?

He's been one of a very small # of straight journalists on Fox calling out Trump's most egregious lies and dishonor. That's earned him Trump's ire and that of Trump's biggest toadies on his own, now former network. Undoubtedly many death threats.

I think what we are seeing with Shep's departure is the Trump effect at Fox, just as it has totally cowed the GOP.

I don't see this ending until Trumpism is thoroughly repudiated, whether at the polls or through removal for 'high crimes and misdemeanors'.

Barr meeting with Rupert Murdoch...

There are rumblings that Shep has a sexual case against him and he resigned...maybe the argument w/Tucker was planned distraction.

Sure hope that's not the case.
If so, amazing how rampant that's been there.

But sounds quite bogus re "argument w/Tucker was planned distraction".

Sounds like Amb. Sondland isn't going to be doing Trump any favors. Reportedly he's going to say:

1. Trump himself directed/dictated the "no QPQ" denial text message in a phone call with Sondland.

Echoes of the AF1 Trump dictated lies to cover up the Trump Tower meeting with the Russian lawyer. "Corruption" is the new "Adoptions"!!

2. Sondland does not know if Trump was lying when he said that or not. He will only testify that Trump said that.

3. Sondland had no idea why the Uke aid was held up.

Interesting. Sondland was point man on Ukraine policy following the suspicious removal of Amb. Yovanovitch. And he has no idea why that was happening. Neither did interim Amb. Bill Taylor. Neither did U.S. Senators (including R-Johnson), the State Dept or the Defense Dept. Maybe the WH just forgot to pass along all those perfectly legitimate reasons for doing that? Just slipped their mind?

4. For months, Sondland worked with Giuliani to get the "deliverable", which was the a public announcement that they would be investigating corruption at Burisma.

Wonder why they were only interested in Burisma and not, for example, Naftogaz (i.e. Parnas, Fruman, Giuliani, Rick Perry). Any guesses why "corruption" policy seems to just be about only Burisma? Why might that be? Seems like former Amb. Yovanovitch had a pretty strong anti-corruption program ongoing. But she got removed anyway. Probably the kind of corruption she was fighting wasn't the kind of "corruption" Trump and Giuliani needed to be investigated.

5. Uke would get an Oval Office meeting in exchange for the deliverable.

6. So Sodland will testify that in fact there was at least one QPQ (i.e. #4-5). On a QPQ regarding the aid, he doesn't know. But he has no idea why the aid was held up. No explanation at all.

7. But Sondland thinks that the #4-5 QPQ was not corrupt.

Looking forward to hearing that explanation from the Ambassador.

"Public Opinion" started turning against Trump months ago. While he will never lose his popularity with the 38% 'ers or the FanLax Hate Squad, an increasing number of CONSERVATIVES are pointing out to those who deign to seek and listen, that Trump is a charlatan.e.g.

https://podcast.thebulwark.com/david-pr ... nal-wisdom


POMPEO/BARR.

Remember when Obama said Citizens United would allow dark foreign money into our elections and Justice Alito said that was wrong? Those were the days.

Trinity wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:33 am Remember when Obama said Citizens United would allow dark foreign money into our elections and Justice Alito said that was wrong? Those were the days.

I am unaware of any one person's vote that changed from D to R because of 'foreign meddling'. Is it possible that this somewhat hysteria-laden discussion is overplayed (most of the time) in an effort to cover up weak messages and leaders that and who do not resonate with the voting population?

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:42 am

Trinity wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:33 am Remember when Obama said Citizens United would allow dark foreign money into our elections and Justice Alito said that was wrong? Those were the days.

I am unaware of any one person's vote that changed from D to R because of 'foreign meddling'. Is it possible that this somewhat hysteria-laden discussion is overplayed (most of the time) in an effort to cover up weak messages and leaders that and who do not resonate with the voting population?

That's because it's not a "I saw this on Facebook and now I am voting R" type of situation. It's about reinforcing ideas and picking up people susceptible to conspiracy theories and generating a positive feedback loop to confirm their suspicions. It pushes extremes, and those people are more likely to convince friends and family to vote their way. So while you don't think you know anyone who changed their vote, you honestly have no idea whatsoever if they did.

It's not hysteria-laden and it's not overplayed. It's worthy of discussion and concern and for some reason Republicans in charge are refusing to do much to stop the interference. If they affected just 77,000 people, or 0.06% of the total vote, then they changed the outcome of election. That's pretty worthy of attention, would you say so?

The foreign interference is widespread and systematic. It is targeted at Americans. It depresses turnout. And I think Obama still resonates with many Americans who miss full sentences, coherent paragraphs of thought, with none of the non-stop whining.

I am unaware of any one person's vote that changed from D to R because of 'foreign meddling'.

Come on PB -- lame partisan talking points don't cut it on this board. Up your game.

The interference wasn't hacking the voting machines (as far as we know). The interference was advertising and marketing.

So are you saying that in your businesses advertising is completely worthless? It never changes customer behavior? Just a complete and total waste of money? If that's true, why do businesses spend so much money on advertising?

Political campaigns spend lots of money on ads and signs and buttons and speeches. Why would they do that if those activities don't change anyone's voting behavior? Presumably, the political pros do these things because they believe they do influence votes. And if it influences votes, foreigners are not allowed. That's the law.