Re: 2020 Elections - Into the Home Stretch
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:33 pm
Great pick. Biden avoided the mistake Hillary made. Kamala is going to be a terrific running mate and a wonderful VP.
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Re: 2020 Elections - Into the Home Stretch
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:34 pm
Yet another clear as day example that the idea that the Dem party is moving left is------utterly laughable and ridiculous.
If they manage to win? Both Biden and Harris will govern to the right of both Trump and Obama.
Voting Dems, and Dems in power, have rejected the left. There is no arguing this fact anymore.
Re: 2020 Elections - Into the Home Stretch
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:35 pm
Re: 2020 Elections - Into the Home Stretch
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:37 pm
Nonsense. Biden and Harris will absolutely not “govern to the right of” Trump.a fan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:34 pmYet another clear as day example that the idea that the Dem party is moving left is------utterly laughable and ridiculous.
If they manage to win? Both Biden and Harris will govern to the right of both Trump and Obama.
Voting Dems, and Dems in power, have rejected the left. There is no arguing this fact anymore.
Besides, Sanders, Warren, and AOC (!) have speaking slots at the Democratic Convention.
DocBarrister
Re: 2020 Elections - Into the Home Stretch
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:39 pm
So certain!a fan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:34 pmYet another clear as day example that the idea that the Dem party is moving left is------utterly laughable and ridiculous.
If they manage to win? Both Biden and Harris will govern to the right of both Trump and Obama.
Voting Dems, and Dems in power, have rejected the left. There is no arguing this fact anymore.
Maybe a fan. One certainty is she is a better choice than Bass would have been.
Re: 2020 Elections - Into the Home Stretch
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:42 pm
Wanna bet? They're not in Congress, so you can look at two major things: what they do overseas, and what bills they sign or veto.DocBarrister wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:37 pm Nonsense. Biden and Harris will absolutely not “govern to the right of” Trump.
-What do you think will happen with NATO? Will Biden look to repair that relationship, or will they act like lefties, and continue to pull troops?
-Will Biden close more military bases?
-Will Biden withdraw further from our role as the World's Cop
You know the answer to every question, Doc. Biden will move America further to the right overseas.
As for the rest of the Executive Branch activities....crime, DoJ, FBI, etc.? Have you seen Kamala's record? She's not a lefty, Doc.
Re: 2020 Elections - Into the Home Stretch
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:47 pm
Listening to reactions from Black politicians (eg Clyburn) and commentators (Reid, Robinson, Sharpton) on MSNBC. They are all ecstatic. They are going to go all in to turn out the Black vote. That will also help quiet the Bernie bros who want to complain that Harris isn't far enough left.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/election ... e-updates/Sanders campaign co-chair says Harris will win over Vermont senator’s supporters
Re: 2020 Elections - Into the Home Stretch
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:48 pm
So now actual things that have actually happened don't count, and you think I'm forecasting?tech37 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:39 pmSo certain!a fan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:34 pmYet another clear as day example that the idea that the Dem party is moving left is------utterly laughable and ridiculous.
If they manage to win? Both Biden and Harris will govern to the right of both Trump and Obama.
Voting Dems, and Dems in power, have rejected the left. There is no arguing this fact anymore.
Is Bernie the nominee, or not?
Do you know anything about Kamala Harris, and her record?
The Dem party just handed you two center right candidates for President and VP, tech...and told the lefty candidates to take a hike.
If you don't see that......okie-dokie. All that tells me is how far to the right you really are.
Re: 2020 Elections - Into the Home Stretch
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:48 pm
They're all lefties now. Where the h*ll have you beena fan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:42 pmWanna bet? They're not in Congress, so you can look at two major things: what they do overseas, and what bills they sign or veto.DocBarrister wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:37 pm Nonsense. Biden and Harris will absolutely not “govern to the right of” Trump.
-What do you think will happen with NATO? Will Biden look to repair that relationship, or will they act like lefties, and continue to pull troops?
-Will Biden close more military bases?
-Will Biden withdraw further from our role as the World's Cop
You know the answer to every question, Doc. Biden will move America further to the right overseas.
As for the rest of the Executive Branch activities....crime, DoJ, FBI, etc.? Have you seen Kamala's record? She's not a lefty, Doc.
There is no middle or right in the democrat party. Not No Mo
Re: 2020 Elections - Into the Home Stretch
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:50 pm
That's what Fox and Limbaugh keep feeding you.
Re: 2020 Elections - Into the Home Stretch
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:50 pm
CU77 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:47 pm Listening to reactions from Black politicians (eg Clyburn) and commentators (Reid, Robinson, Sharpton) on MSNBC. They are all ecstatic. They are going to go all in to turn out the Black vote. That will also help quiet the Bernie bros who want to complain that Harris isn't far enough left.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/election ... e-updates/Sanders campaign co-chair says Harris will win over Vermont senator’s supporters
It doesn’t surprise me that Fanlax Dems don’t realize that blacks people don’t like Kamala Harris.
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/o ... 390457002/
Re: 2020 Elections - Into the Home Stretch
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:52 pm
Re: 2020 Elections - Into the Home Stretch
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:53 pm
No body likes her. Did she ever get out of single digits in the primaries?Peter Brown wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:50 pmCU77 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:47 pm Listening to reactions from Black politicians (eg Clyburn) and commentators (Reid, Robinson, Sharpton) on MSNBC. They are all ecstatic. They are going to go all in to turn out the Black vote. That will also help quiet the Bernie bros who want to complain that Harris isn't far enough left.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/election ... e-updates/Sanders campaign co-chair says Harris will win over Vermont senator’s supporters
It doesn’t surprise me that Fanlax Dems don’t realize that blacks people don’t like Kamala Harris.
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/o ... 390457002/
Re: 2020 Elections - Into the Home Stretch
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:53 pm
You're wrong. Demonstrably so.6ftstick wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:48 pmThey're all lefties now. Where the h*ll have you beena fan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:42 pmWanna bet? They're not in Congress, so you can look at two major things: what they do overseas, and what bills they sign or veto.DocBarrister wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:37 pm Nonsense. Biden and Harris will absolutely not “govern to the right of” Trump.
-What do you think will happen with NATO? Will Biden look to repair that relationship, or will they act like lefties, and continue to pull troops?
-Will Biden close more military bases?
-Will Biden withdraw further from our role as the World's Cop
You know the answer to every question, Doc. Biden will move America further to the right overseas.
As for the rest of the Executive Branch activities....crime, DoJ, FBI, etc.? Have you seen Kamala's record? She's not a lefty, Doc.
There is no middle or right in the democrat party. Not No Mo
Let's list some key policies that a POTUS can actually enact...and you tell me what the conservative stance would be?
Let's play
Spending: more, or less than Trump
Borrowing: more, or less than Trump
NATO: more presence there, or continue shutting bases
World's cop: Keep our forces overseas, or pull them home
Trade policy: continue Trump's protectionist policies, or move to more free market
You're welcome to add issues, 6ft. For the positions above, which do you think a conservative would choose, and which do you think Biden will choose?
Re: 2020 Elections - Into the Home Stretch
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:53 pm
I'd argue that while Harris will have some influence on this situation, the other picks Biden makes for his cabinet will have, individually and collectively, more influence on policy than Harris by herself will. If Warren, perhaps Sanders and other more leftist types find their way into the new cabinet, i think the Ship of State may well begin it's long tack more to the left. The days of believing that currying the favor of Blue Dog Democrats are gone, i believe...but we shall see...both of the top two people understand (i hope!) what power the progressive wing of the party bring to the table these days.
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Re: 2020 Elections - Into the Home Stretch
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:55 pm
a fan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:42 pmWanna bet? They're not in Congress, so you can look at two major things: what they do overseas, and what bills they sign or veto.DocBarrister wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:37 pm Nonsense. Biden and Harris will absolutely not “govern to the right of” Trump.
-What do you think will happen with NATO? Will Biden look to repair that relationship, or will they act like lefties, and continue to pull troops?
I predict a freeze. He'll halt any Germany drawdown that hasn't already started, although he may follow through on bringing home the Stryker Brgade (& replacing it with constant rotational deployment). Otherwise -- status quo in Germany & everywhere else.
-Will Biden close more military bases?
I doubt it.
-Will Biden withdraw further from our role as the World's Cop
Just the opposite
You know the answer to every question, Doc. Biden will move America further to the right overseas.
Yep. We be Globocop again.
As for the rest of the Executive Branch activities....crime, DoJ, FBI, etc.? Have you seen Kamala's record? She's not a lefty, Doc.
She goes whichever way the wind is blowing. Wall St is relieved it's not Warren.
She'll become Miss Congeniality, prepping for her next run in 4 years, maybe as the incumbent.
Re: 2020 Elections - Into the Home Stretch
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:56 pm
has biden been watching the news for the last 2 months?
will they release anyone left in cali in for a dime bag?
will they release anyone left in cali in for a dime bag?
Re: 2020 Elections - Into the Home Stretch
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:56 pm
Chinaa fan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:53 pmYou're wrong. Demonstrably so.6ftstick wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:48 pmThey're all lefties now. Where the h*ll have you beena fan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:42 pmWanna bet? They're not in Congress, so you can look at two major things: what they do overseas, and what bills they sign or veto.DocBarrister wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:37 pm Nonsense. Biden and Harris will absolutely not “govern to the right of” Trump.
-What do you think will happen with NATO? Will Biden look to repair that relationship, or will they act like lefties, and continue to pull troops?
-Will Biden close more military bases?
-Will Biden withdraw further from our role as the World's Cop
You know the answer to every question, Doc. Biden will move America further to the right overseas.
As for the rest of the Executive Branch activities....crime, DoJ, FBI, etc.? Have you seen Kamala's record? She's not a lefty, Doc.
There is no middle or right in the democrat party. Not No Mo
Let's list some key policies that a POTUS can actually enact...and you tell me what the conservative stance would be?
Let's play
Spending: more, or less than Trump
Borrowing: more, or less than Trump
NATO: more presence there, or continue shutting bases
World's cop: Keep our forces overseas, or pull them home
Trade policy: continue Trump's protectionist policies, or move to more free market
You're welcome to add issues, 6ft. For the positions above, which do you think a conservative would choose, and which do you think Biden will choose?
Immigration
Health Care
Green New Deal
Gun Control
Energy
Re: 2020 Elections - Into the Home Stretch
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:59 pm
VP doesn't matter much to me -- since the people actually doing the work and advising the president are much more important. And those people are the chief of staff, national sec advisor, secy of state, secy of treasury, etc.
VP only matters to me if the VP will maximize votes for Biden. Presumably Biden's team has polled and war-gamed this extensively. So if Kamala will bring in the votes, I'm just fine with that.
Would have preferred Susan Rice. Glad it wasn't Abrams (not qualified) or Bass (not ready for prime time).
Game on.
VP only matters to me if the VP will maximize votes for Biden. Presumably Biden's team has polled and war-gamed this extensively. So if Kamala will bring in the votes, I'm just fine with that.
Would have preferred Susan Rice. Glad it wasn't Abrams (not qualified) or Bass (not ready for prime time).
Game on.
Re: 2020 Elections - Into the Home Stretch
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:01 pm
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China
Immigration
Health Care
Green New Deal
Gun Control
Energy
[/quote]
Great. We'll ignore that most of those are legislative issues that Biden can't effect on his own, but whatever.
Now take this list and my list, and tell me what you think Biden will do as POTUS, and what a conservative would do.
China
Immigration
Health Care
Green New Deal
Gun Control
Energy
[/quote]
Great. We'll ignore that most of those are legislative issues that Biden can't effect on his own, but whatever.
Now take this list and my list, and tell me what you think Biden will do as POTUS, and what a conservative would do.