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cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 1:30 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 12:31 pm I'm not a fan of DiAngelo's oversimplification of "White Fragility" but do not condemn the effort to identify and even 'name' the constructs that reinforce bigotry in our country. Indeed, I agree with much of the core thesis of that book.

Nor would I let a particular disagreement with a single author/researcher get in the way of recognizing the BS bigotry of the immediate poster, nor that of a-holes like DeSantis. Indeed, it's crystal clear.

Want to read a critical review of "White Fragility"? Here's a pretty fair one.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/ ... is-flawed/

I'm guessing that if he is the nominee that DeSantis might not get your vote?? Tough times for a lifelong Republican. Your party frowns on your Casper milquetoast moderate approach . Hell the only Republican as of today that would lose to Biden would be Mittens. I have to wonder, could RD eff things up as much as Biden has done in a year and a half? The worst nightmare the Democrats face is Biden running for a second term. As a lifelong Republican, fortunately a malady I have never had to endure, I bet your drywall repair guy is on speed dial from continually running your head through the wall. I hope by now you know where all the studs are?

Mittens is gonna have to decide soon whether to back mike Lee or mittens junior, Evan McMuffin

Today has been a great day. I don’t think I’ve smiled or laughed like this in years.

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 1:30 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 12:31 pm I'm not a fan of DiAngelo's oversimplification of "White Fragility" but do not condemn the effort to identify and even 'name' the constructs that reinforce bigotry in our country. Indeed, I agree with much of the core thesis of that book.

Nor would I let a particular disagreement with a single author/researcher get in the way of recognizing the BS bigotry of the immediate poster, nor that of a-holes like DeSantis. Indeed, it's crystal clear.

Want to read a critical review of "White Fragility"? Here's a pretty fair one.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/ ... is-flawed/

I'm guessing that if he is the nominee that DeSantis might not get your vote?? Tough times for a lifelong Republican. Your party frowns on your Casper milquetoast moderate approach . Hell the only Republican as of today that would lose to Biden would be Mittens. I have to wonder, could RD eff things up as much as Biden has done in a year and a half? The worst nightmare the Democrats face is Biden running for a second term. As a lifelong Republican, fortunately a malady I have never had to endure, I bet your drywall repair guy is on speed dial from continually running your head through the wall. I hope by now you know where all the studs are?

yup, the GOP is a mess...and yes, DeSantis won't get my vote. He's never disavowed the fiction that the 2020 election was stolen from Trump and he's an openly panderer to the hard right a-holes that have overtaken the party.

I'd love to have another credible alternative from the GOP, but I doubt it will happen this cycle. So, that'll mean I'll be hoping that Biden decides he's done enough and steps aside for new blood from the Dems...and I'll be hoping that's a moderate progressive.

I don't think Romney will support Lee, given what has come out. The alternative is sound and independent.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 3:23 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 1:30 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 12:31 pm I'm not a fan of DiAngelo's oversimplification of "White Fragility" but do not condemn the effort to identify and even 'name' the constructs that reinforce bigotry in our country. Indeed, I agree with much of the core thesis of that book.

Nor would I let a particular disagreement with a single author/researcher get in the way of recognizing the BS bigotry of the immediate poster, nor that of a-holes like DeSantis. Indeed, it's crystal clear.

Want to read a critical review of "White Fragility"? Here's a pretty fair one.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/ ... is-flawed/

I'm guessing that if he is the nominee that DeSantis might not get your vote?? Tough times for a lifelong Republican. Your party frowns on your Casper milquetoast moderate approach . Hell the only Republican as of today that would lose to Biden would be Mittens. I have to wonder, could RD eff things up as much as Biden has done in a year and a half? The worst nightmare the Democrats face is Biden running for a second term. As a lifelong Republican, fortunately a malady I have never had to endure, I bet your drywall repair guy is on speed dial from continually running your head through the wall. I hope by now you know where all the studs are?

yup, the GOP is a mess...and yes, DeSantis won't get my vote. He's never disavowed the fiction that the 2020 election was stolen from Trump and he's an openly panderer to the hard right a-holes that have overtaken the party.

I'd love to have another credible alternative from the GOP, but I doubt it will happen this cycle. So, that'll mean I'll be hoping that Biden decides he's done enough and steps aside for new blood from the Dems...and I'll be hoping that's a moderate progressive.

I don't think Romney will support Lee, given what has come out. The alternative is sound and independent.

Ron Desantis: Governor of the third most populous state in the country, counted 11 million votes the night of the election by 8 pm EST, absolutely zero allegations of counting irregularities, even elected multiple Dems…still not good enough for MD. He’s a ‘fascist’.

Desantis counted exactly zero votes. He was not even a direct supervisor of vote counting. And the Florida system for dealing with votes almost all predates his term in office.

Part of the reason there is essentially no actual voter fraud (at a level that makes ANY difference) is the distributed nature of voting and counting.

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 5:06 pm Desantis counted exactly zero votes. He was not even a direct supervisor of vote counting. And the Florida system for dealing with votes almost all predates his term in office.

Part of the reason there is essentially no actual voter fraud (at a level that makes ANY difference) is the distributed nature of voting and counting.

Gee, facts are troubling to ole Petey.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:07 pm

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 5:06 pm Desantis counted exactly zero votes. He was not even a direct supervisor of vote counting. And the Florida system for dealing with votes almost all predates his term in office.

Part of the reason there is essentially no actual voter fraud (at a level that makes ANY difference) is the distributed nature of voting and counting.

Gee, facts are troubling to ole Petey.

Just checking, your "facts? or actually facts grounded in realism?

Joe

He's talking about PETE'S "facts" Joe...is that so hard to understand?? It's 2022 and "alternative facts" IS A THING? Ask KellyAnne. Do you not know this? We discuss what the facts are around here all the time...and the kind of Trumpy facts Petey trucks in are a big part of the pushback. Come ON, man...weak attempts at scoring some sort of hit on your nemesis is unbecoming...

Dis

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JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:08 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:07 pm

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 5:06 pm Desantis counted exactly zero votes. He was not even a direct supervisor of vote counting. And the Florida system for dealing with votes almost all predates his term in office.

Part of the reason there is essentially no actual voter fraud (at a level that makes ANY difference) is the distributed nature of voting and counting.

Gee, facts are troubling to ole Petey.

Just checking, your "facts? or actually facts grounded in realism?

Joe

I must have missed that class in school on "realism"...seems to me that DeSantis didn't count ANY votes...if theres a "realism" issue with that statement, feel free to share. The rest of Red's statement are also facts, quite refuting Petey's trolling BS...but hey, "realism"...

How about actually trying to add something substantive to the discussion, Joe?...you know, 'keeping it real'...

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 7:45 pm

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:08 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:07 pm

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 5:06 pm Desantis counted exactly zero votes. He was not even a direct supervisor of vote counting. And the Florida system for dealing with votes almost all predates his term in office.

Part of the reason there is essentially no actual voter fraud (at a level that makes ANY difference) is the distributed nature of voting and counting.

Gee, facts are troubling to ole Petey.

Just checking, your "facts? or actually facts grounded in realism?

Joe

I must have missed that class in school on "realism"...seems to me that DeSantis didn't count ANY votes...if theres a "realism" issue with that statement, feel free to share. The rest of Red's statement are also facts, quite refuting Petey's trolling BS...but hey, "realism"...

How about actually trying to add something substantive to the discussion, Joe?...you know, 'keeping it real'...

You have a real level of hatred for the Governor of the State you frequent for many weeks out of the year. That's what we people who live in reality, out of touch. Not surprised.

Joe

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 8:16 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 7:45 pm

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:08 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:07 pm

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 5:06 pm Desantis counted exactly zero votes. He was not even a direct supervisor of vote counting. And the Florida system for dealing with votes almost all predates his term in office.

Part of the reason there is essentially no actual voter fraud (at a level that makes ANY difference) is the distributed nature of voting and counting.

Gee, facts are troubling to ole Petey.

Just checking, your "facts? or actually facts grounded in realism?

Joe

I must have missed that class in school on "realism"...seems to me that DeSantis didn't count ANY votes...if theres a "realism" issue with that statement, feel free to share. The rest of Red's statement are also facts, quite refuting Petey's trolling BS...but hey, "realism"...

How about actually trying to add something substantive to the discussion, Joe?...you know, 'keeping it real'...

You have a real level of hatred for the Governor of the State you frequent for many weeks out of the year. That's what we people who live in reality, out of touch. Not surprised.

Joe

These ’s need it all spelled out. I wasn’t suggesting that Desantis does the actual counting

I was pointing out that he’s the chief executive of the 3rd largest state in America which cleanly and timely handles it’s vote-counting (even electing Democrats!!). You’d think he’d get a little credit. But MD is so invested in this bizarre anti-conservative kick, he can’t even give Desantis credit on this accomplishment, ‘cause he’s a fascist’…

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 8:59 pm

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 8:16 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 7:45 pm

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:08 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:07 pm

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 5:06 pm Desantis counted exactly zero votes. He was not even a direct supervisor of vote counting. And the Florida system for dealing with votes almost all predates his term in office.

Part of the reason there is essentially no actual voter fraud (at a level that makes ANY difference) is the distributed nature of voting and counting.

Gee, facts are troubling to ole Petey.

Just checking, your "facts? or actually facts grounded in realism?

Joe

I must have missed that class in school on "realism"...seems to me that DeSantis didn't count ANY votes...if theres a "realism" issue with that statement, feel free to share. The rest of Red's statement are also facts, quite refuting Petey's trolling BS...but hey, "realism"...

How about actually trying to add something substantive to the discussion, Joe?...you know, 'keeping it real'...

You have a real level of hatred for the Governor of the State you frequent for many weeks out of the year. That's what we people who live in reality, out of touch. Not surprised.

Joe

These ’s need it all spelled out. I wasn’t suggesting that Desantis does the actual counting

I was pointing out that he’s the chief executive of the 3rd largest state in America which cleanly and timely handles it’s vote-counting (even electing Democrats!!). You’d think he’d get a little credit. But MD is so invested in this bizarre anti-conservative kick, he can’t even give Desantis credit on this accomplishment, ‘cause he’s a fascist’…

+1

Joe

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 9:03 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 8:59 pm

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 8:16 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 7:45 pm

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:08 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:07 pm

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 5:06 pm Desantis counted exactly zero votes. He was not even a direct supervisor of vote counting. And the Florida system for dealing with votes almost all predates his term in office.

Part of the reason there is essentially no actual voter fraud (at a level that makes ANY difference) is the distributed nature of voting and counting.

Gee, facts are troubling to ole Petey.

Just checking, your "facts? or actually facts grounded in realism?

Joe

I must have missed that class in school on "realism"...seems to me that DeSantis didn't count ANY votes...if theres a "realism" issue with that statement, feel free to share. The rest of Red's statement are also facts, quite refuting Petey's trolling BS...but hey, "realism"...

How about actually trying to add something substantive to the discussion, Joe?...you know, 'keeping it real'...

You have a real level of hatred for the Governor of the State you frequent for many weeks out of the year. That's what we people who live in reality, out of touch. Not surprised.

Joe

These ’s need it all spelled out. I wasn’t suggesting that Desantis does the actual counting

I was pointing out that he’s the chief executive of the 3rd largest state in America which cleanly and timely handles it’s vote-counting (even electing Democrats!!). You’d think he’d get a little credit. But MD is so invested in this bizarre anti-conservative kick, he can’t even give Desantis credit on this accomplishment, ‘cause he’s a fascist’…

+1

Joe

You guys are a trip.
Joe, was that supposed to be "substance"?

No, my feelings about DeSantis are nowhere near 'hatred'. I simply am opposed, strongly, to his being given power, because I believe he will aggressively abuse such power at each step. Right now, IMO, he's abusing his power as Governor and, given more power that abuse will only expand. Whether at the State or worse at the Presidential level.

Yes, I think he's an authoritarian, a populist panderer, who focuses on dividing rather than uniting. Yes, "fascist". I contrast that approach to my own Governor, Hogan, who has governed as a conservative but who has found ways to unite, avoiding pandering divisiveness for the most part. I'm glad to have supported him. Should a Dem succeed him, I hope the same sort of approach will be used. It makes for general good governance.

And no, Petey, DeSantis had no ability, no power, to interfere with the vote count...had he had such power, however, his other actions indicate that he would have no ethical reluctance in doing so. He's been granted additional powers in redistricting and his gerrymandering strains the very worst such power plays. No ethics at all, power is all. and the reason why Florida didn't have accusations of mass voter fraud was that Trump won. There were no such loud claims in states Trump won, only the BS where he lost. So, he does not get credit for that.

Hey Joe, if you really think that diverse opinions aren't on fan lax, just look at this discussion.

I don’t pay enough compliments to some Democrats.

I’d like to at least suggest that Jon Ossoff isn’t the worst Senator. He’s way too lib for Georgia, but he’s not a bad guy. He at least had the guts to appear on Fox. I appreciate that. He’s bright enough, I think he’s patriotic.

My lingering suspicion about Ossoff is if he wasn’t from Georgia, he possibly would be a total lunatic, but we deal with the hand dealt us. And he’s from a conservative state, so that’s that.

That does remind me that MSNBC can’t ever host a Republican. Why can Fox have a perfectly reasonable dialogue with a Democratic Senator, but MSNBC is incapable of same? Doesn’t that make anyone pause to think about this?

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 8:59 pm

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 8:16 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 7:45 pm

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:08 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:07 pm

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 5:06 pm Desantis counted exactly zero votes. He was not even a direct supervisor of vote counting. And the Florida system for dealing with votes almost all predates his term in office.

Part of the reason there is essentially no actual voter fraud (at a level that makes ANY difference) is the distributed nature of voting and counting.

Gee, facts are troubling to ole Petey.

Just checking, your "facts? or actually facts grounded in realism?

Joe

I must have missed that class in school on "realism"...seems to me that DeSantis didn't count ANY votes...if theres a "realism" issue with that statement, feel free to share. The rest of Red's statement are also facts, quite refuting Petey's trolling BS...but hey, "realism"...

How about actually trying to add something substantive to the discussion, Joe?...you know, 'keeping it real'...

You have a real level of hatred for the Governor of the State you frequent for many weeks out of the year. That's what we people who live in reality, out of touch. Not surprised.

Joe

These ’s need it all spelled out. I wasn’t suggesting that Desantis does the actual counting

I was pointing out that he’s the chief executive of the 3rd largest state in America which cleanly and timely handles it’s vote-counting (even electing Democrats!!). You’d think he’d get a little credit. But MD is so invested in this bizarre anti-conservative kick, he can’t even give Desantis credit on this accomplishment, ‘cause he’s a fascist’…

really? .. and what were the Florida governors before Ronnie Snowflake doing? It was all him.

jhu72 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 26, 2022 8:49 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 8:59 pm

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 8:16 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 7:45 pm

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:08 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:07 pm

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 5:06 pm Desantis counted exactly zero votes. He was not even a direct supervisor of vote counting. And the Florida system for dealing with votes almost all predates his term in office.

Part of the reason there is essentially no actual voter fraud (at a level that makes ANY difference) is the distributed nature of voting and counting.

Gee, facts are troubling to ole Petey.

Just checking, your "facts? or actually facts grounded in realism?

Joe

I must have missed that class in school on "realism"...seems to me that DeSantis didn't count ANY votes...if theres a "realism" issue with that statement, feel free to share. The rest of Red's statement are also facts, quite refuting Petey's trolling BS...but hey, "realism"...

How about actually trying to add something substantive to the discussion, Joe?...you know, 'keeping it real'...

You have a real level of hatred for the Governor of the State you frequent for many weeks out of the year. That's what we people who live in reality, out of touch. Not surprised.

Joe

These ’s need it all spelled out. I wasn’t suggesting that Desantis does the actual counting

I was pointing out that he’s the chief executive of the 3rd largest state in America which cleanly and timely handles it’s vote-counting (even electing Democrats!!). You’d think he’d get a little credit. But MD is so invested in this bizarre anti-conservative kick, he can’t even give Desantis credit on this accomplishment, ‘cause he’s a fascist’…

really? .. and what were the Florida governors before Ronnie Snowflake doing? It was all him.

Reading this thread over the course of a few weeks one thing has become very clear. The FLP liberal bandwagon of chuckleheads is scared chitless of Ron DeSantis. If the worst FLP nightmare becomes reality and Joe runs again and if RD is the choice of the Rs the FLP liberals see the writing on the wall... Just don't ask Joe any title 42 questions in any debate.

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:45 am

jhu72 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 26, 2022 8:49 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 8:59 pm

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 8:16 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 7:45 pm

JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:08 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:07 pm

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 5:06 pm Desantis counted exactly zero votes. He was not even a direct supervisor of vote counting. And the Florida system for dealing with votes almost all predates his term in office.

Part of the reason there is essentially no actual voter fraud (at a level that makes ANY difference) is the distributed nature of voting and counting.

Gee, facts are troubling to ole Petey.

Just checking, your "facts? or actually facts grounded in realism?

Joe

I must have missed that class in school on "realism"...seems to me that DeSantis didn't count ANY votes...if theres a "realism" issue with that statement, feel free to share. The rest of Red's statement are also facts, quite refuting Petey's trolling BS...but hey, "realism"...

How about actually trying to add something substantive to the discussion, Joe?...you know, 'keeping it real'...

You have a real level of hatred for the Governor of the State you frequent for many weeks out of the year. That's what we people who live in reality, out of touch. Not surprised.

Joe

These ’s need it all spelled out. I wasn’t suggesting that Desantis does the actual counting

I was pointing out that he’s the chief executive of the 3rd largest state in America which cleanly and timely handles it’s vote-counting (even electing Democrats!!). You’d think he’d get a little credit. But MD is so invested in this bizarre anti-conservative kick, he can’t even give Desantis credit on this accomplishment, ‘cause he’s a fascist’…

really? .. and what were the Florida governors before Ronnie Snowflake doing? It was all him.

Reading this thread over the course of a few weeks one thing has become very clear. The FLP liberal bandwagon of chuckleheads is scared chitless of Ron DeSantis. If the worst FLP nightmare becomes reality and Joe runs again and if RD is the choice of the Rs the FLP liberals see the writing on the wall... Just don't ask Joe any title 42 questions in any debate.

If 46 year old Ron goes against Joe in one (let alone 3 or more) debates, honestly even I’d feel it was unfair to Corn Pop.

The FLP would be throwing in the towel after the introductions.

It’s brutal even thinking about it.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/ ... b510f7f56a

How can this be... the FLP toadstools on this forum tell us that only the republicans are guilty of extremism...

^^^^ RepubliCON / Trumpnista echo chamber.

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 8:24 am https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/ ... b510f7f56a

How can this be... the FLP toadstools on this forum tell us that only the republicans are guilty of extremism...

I get more gut laughs at ‘liberals melting down’ stories than a Chris Rock concert.

If it’s not Elon Musk triggering them, it’s just something else.

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 10:48 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 8:24 am https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/ ... b510f7f56a

How can this be... the FLP toadstools on this forum tell us that only the republicans are guilty of extremism...

I get more gut laughs at ‘liberals melting down’ stories than a Chris Rock concert.

If it’s not Elon Musk triggering them, it’s just something else.

Yes. It's a reaction to Musk's obvious gaslighting.

In what world are Joe Biden and Nancy Freaking Pelosi.....on any subject.....to the left of Barack Obama?? Yeah, right.

That's next level stupid, and obviously, Musk is catering to Petey, who gets excited anytime he thinks that the libs are distressed.....this is the Republican party in a nutshell----100% of their attention is on "the libs". 0% of their attention is on "the people".

It's why nothing gets done. It's why DeSantis won't deregulate in Florida, and get rid of pointless laws that do NOTHING to make Florida a better State. It's why DeSantis made Florida Government 10% in a single year. It's why housing costs are exploding for DeSantis' base, and he's not even TALKING about how to fix that problem.

But yep, so long as the libs are supposedly upset (total strawman, btw, but whatever) Republican voters won't notice that their party isn't governing.

Oh well. You can only explain this so many times......