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cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:00 pm

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 11:17 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:39 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:23 am On Jan. 3, Iraqi police in Babylon discovered a land attack cruise missile of Iranian design that failed to launch. The use of Iranian supplied munitions by terrorist groups within Iraq and Syria endanger Coalition forces and local residents. The Coalition is appreciative of the efforts of the legitimate security forces in Iraq for their efforts to prevent future attacks.

https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/1743268112018047314?s=20

Are you insinuating the Iranian leadership are dabbling in nefarious mischief? That can't possibly be true. The usual suspects on this forum have enlightened us all that is a lie.

No one on the forum has said anything like that. Maybe brooksie, but even that's pushing it. JFC.

So lets back up the bus then. Should Iran be held responsible for the carnage they have caused??? That 6 billion dollars would have helped a lot of US service members that died and lost their arms and legs. Unless you can simply disregard that and cheer for the fact these murdering mother effers in Iran just cashed a huge paycheck?? That is some brilliant freaking logic, simply freaking brilliant..... One positive thing I could say about trump... I betcha he would have never given that 6 billion back to Iran. That's a Joe Biden thang ain't it???

for the umpteeth time - The $6 billion WASN'T OUR MONEY and ISN'T OUR MONEY and we had no access to it nor could we just confiscate it. We only imposed an international embargo on the Iranian assets to prevent them from accessing it without our approval. We allowed the funds to be held in a Qatari bank and only dispensed to 3rd parties who could validate that payments those parties directly received were for food and medicine per the agreement.

Know you don't want to hear it but it's the truth - not that it matters to your constant bellyaching and inane ranting about it. Many have tried to point you to the facts in this case but your refuse to acknowledge those facts making any kind of rational discourse with you a complete waste of time.

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:00 pm So lets back up the bus then. Should Iran be held responsible for the carnage they have caused??? That 6 billion dollars would have helped a lot of US service members that died and lost their arms and legs. Unless you can simply disregard that and cheer for the fact these murdering mother effers in Iran just cashed a huge paycheck?? That is some brilliant freaking logic, simply freaking brilliant..... One positive thing I could say about trump... I betcha he would have never given that 6 billion back to Iran. That's a Joe Biden thang ain't it???

What Kismet said above.

Also, for the second time, how many people in the US Military have been injured by Iranian IEDs since Biden took office?

16 ships of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards severely damaged after an explosion on the coast of Iran.
The ships were allegedly transporting weapons to Houthi terrorists in Yemen, who have attacked international cargo ships and U.S. warships in the Red Sea.

So while the world is blowing up & our soldiers & sailors are being targeted in the ME, the SecDef is MIA for 5 days, unbeknownst to the CinC & the entire chain of command. His Deputy was vacationing in Puerto Rico & his Chief of Staff was out sick with the flu. Was the CinC back from St Croix yet, or home in DE ? Unbelievable. This is much of the same crew that brought you Benghazi.

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:30 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:00 pm So lets back up the bus then. Should Iran be held responsible for the carnage they have caused??? That 6 billion dollars would have helped a lot of US service members that died and lost their arms and legs. Unless you can simply disregard that and cheer for the fact these murdering mother effers in Iran just cashed a huge paycheck?? That is some brilliant freaking logic, simply freaking brilliant..... One positive thing I could say about trump... I betcha he would have never given that 6 billion back to Iran. That's a Joe Biden thang ain't it???

What Kismet said above.

Also, for the second time, how many people in the US Military have been injured by Iranian IEDs since Biden took office?

The estimates are just under 1000 KIA and several thousand more severely injured. Not that most folks on this forum give a chit about that nor do they have any interest in making Iran provide restitution. God Bless America... That billion should have been held in escrow until Iran to honor the default judgement against Iran. To paraphrase something a Fan says frequently...you break it you buy it.

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 3:09 am So while the world is blowing up & our soldiers & sailors are being targeted in the ME, the SecDef is MIA for 5 days, unbeknownst to the CinC & the entire chain of command. His Deputy was vacationing in Puerto Rico & his Chief of Staff was out sick with the flu. Was the CinC back from St Croix yet, or home in DE ? Unbelievable. This is much of the same crew that brought you Benghazi.

Oh, please. I agree with the rest of your assessment except for the Benghazi reference. You've been waiting for YEARS to bring that up again and conveniently forget some of the boneheaded garbage that occurred during Orange Fatso's time like abandoning bases in Syria leaving most equipment behind for the Rooskies. You've been putting lipstick on that pig for YEARS. Also bringing up Uncle Jow vacation's again when your guy Fatso took more time off than Biden/Obama COMBINED. Not a peep from you.

I think the issue is the SecDef. This isn't the first time he has been in the hospital without else anyone knowing about it. He should go along with his CoF and anyone else who participated in covering this up. I think he is STILL in the hospital and no apology to the public or his boss. He (and parts of his staff) have to go. Maybe the House could get a volume discount and impeach Austin along with Mayorkas

https://casetext.com/case/karcher-v-isl ... -of-iran-2
For all of you out there bellowing at the top of lungs that there is no proof that Iran did anything wrong. There is a lot of proof. The proof starts with these bellwether cases. The cases start with June 28, 2009 with LTC Timothy Karcher and go all the way down to # 73 on November 14, 2011. No proof ehhh boys. Here is what was included in the court where these were heard.

The court finds satisfactory evidence in the record to demonstrate that the EFP in the attack was traceable to Iran and its proxies.

This same conclusion by the court concludes the same thing SATISFACTORY EVIDENCE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THE EFP ATTACKS WERE TRACEABLE TO IRAN AND ITS PROXIES. Is that enough proof for you deniers out there?????

Here is a potential backbreaker for the Iranians who believe they were protected by the FSIA agreement.

https://casetext.com/case/karcher-v-isl ... -of-iran-2
For all of you out there bellowing at the top of lungs that there is no proof that Iran did anything wrong. There is a lot of proof. The proof starts with these bellwether cases. The cases start with June 28, 2009 with LTC Timothy Karcher and go all the way down to # 73 on November 14, 2011. No proof ehhh boys. Here is what was included in the court where these were heard.

The court finds satisfactory evidence in the record to demonstrate that the EFP in the attack was traceable to Iran and its proxies.

This same conclusion by the court concludes the same thing SATISFACTORY EVIDENCE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THE EFP ATTACKS WERE TRACEABLE TO IRAN AND ITS PROXIES. Is that enough proof for you deniers out there?????

Here is a potential backbreaker for the Iranians who believe they were protected by the FSIA agreement.

A foreign state shall not be immune from the jurisdiction of courts of the United States or of the States in any case not otherwise covered by this chapter in which money damages are sought against a foreign state for personal injury or death that was caused by an act of torture, extrajudicial killing, aircraft sabotage, hostage taking, or the provision of material support or resources for such an act if such act or provision of material support or resources is engaged in by an official, employee, or agent of such foreign state while acting within the scope of his or her office, employment, or agency.

So the very next time some of you folks start squawking about "no proof" I'll give you the same advise you give to me...read the article from start to finish. I hope all of you read the names of those 73 service members and civilians who died via the EFP devices built and provided by the Iranian government. I hope you also read and comprehend that in a court of law via a default judgement that Iran was found guilty. Then justify for me why the Biden administration handed over 6 billion dollars to a government responsible for the deaths and horrific injuries inflicted on our military. How many of you grieve for Soleimani?? You gonna criticize trump for that as well??

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:57 am

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:30 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:00 pm So lets back up the bus then. Should Iran be held responsible for the carnage they have caused??? That 6 billion dollars would have helped a lot of US service members that died and lost their arms and legs. Unless you can simply disregard that and cheer for the fact these murdering mother effers in Iran just cashed a huge paycheck?? That is some brilliant freaking logic, simply freaking brilliant..... One positive thing I could say about trump... I betcha he would have never given that 6 billion back to Iran. That's a Joe Biden thang ain't it???

What Kismet said above.

Also, for the second time, how many people in the US Military have been injured by Iranian IEDs since Biden took office?

The estimates are just under 1000 KIA and several thousand more severely injured. Not that most folks on this forum give a chit about that nor do they have any interest in making Iran provide restitution. God Bless America... That billion should have been held in escrow until Iran to honor the default judgement against Iran. To paraphrase something a Fan says frequently...you break it you buy it.

I believe he meant the office of President...since January 2021.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 8:04 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:57 am

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:30 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:00 pm So lets back up the bus then. Should Iran be held responsible for the carnage they have caused??? That 6 billion dollars would have helped a lot of US service members that died and lost their arms and legs. Unless you can simply disregard that and cheer for the fact these murdering mother effers in Iran just cashed a huge paycheck?? That is some brilliant freaking logic, simply freaking brilliant..... One positive thing I could say about trump... I betcha he would have never given that 6 billion back to Iran. That's a Joe Biden thang ain't it???

What Kismet said above.

Also, for the second time, how many people in the US Military have been injured by Iranian IEDs since Biden took office?

The estimates are just under 1000 KIA and several thousand more severely injured. Not that most folks on this forum give a chit about that nor do they have any interest in making Iran provide restitution. God Bless America... That billion should have been held in escrow until Iran to honor the default judgement against Iran. To paraphrase something a Fan says frequently...you break it you buy it.

I believe he meant the office of President...since January 2021.

My point has been a number of individuals on this forum have declared that there is no proof against Iran doing anything wrong. I will give you the same advice you have frequently given to me...did you read the entire article?? this is not me saying this, this is a court of law issuing this default judgement against Iran. I understand all the legal pitfalls involved in putting a freeze on these Iranian funds. I also understand the power the US government has if it chose to do so to put a freeze on these funds until this default judgement is answered by the Iranian government. My main point was to respond to the folks on this forum who told me repeatedly that there was no proof the Iranian government did anything wrong. Well according to the default judgement well yes they did do something wrong they murdered US service personal. If the issue is what has Iran done since January 2021, that is another discussion all together. Im guessing the Israeli army dealing with the same environment of EFPs in Gaza that the US military did in Iraq and Afghanistan. If Iran has a bone to pick with us then bring it out in the open and declare war with the US. They speak frequently that that is what they would like to do.

Kismet wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 6:17 am

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 3:09 am So while the world is blowing up & our soldiers & sailors are being targeted in the ME, the SecDef is MIA for 5 days, unbeknownst to the CinC & the entire chain of command. His Deputy was vacationing in Puerto Rico & his Chief of Staff was out sick with the flu. Was the CinC back from St Croix yet, or home in DE ? Unbelievable. This is much of the same crew that brought you Benghazi.

Oh, please. I agree with the rest of your assessment except for the Benghazi reference. You've been waiting for YEARS to bring that up again and conveniently forget some of the boneheaded garbage that occurred during Orange Fatso's time like abandoning bases in Syria leaving most equipment behind for the Rooskies. You've been putting lipstick on that pig for YEARS. Also bringing up Uncle Jow vacation's again when your guy Fatso took more time off than Biden/Obama COMBINED. Not a peep from you.

I think the issue is the SecDef. This isn't the first time he has been in the hospital without else anyone knowing about it. He should go along with his CoF and anyone else who participated in covering this up. I think he is STILL in the hospital and no apology to the public or his boss. He (and parts of his staff) have to go. Maybe the House could get a volume discount and impeach Austin along with Mayorkas

The usual brainless diversion. This has nothing to do with Trump.

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 8:26 am

Kismet wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 6:17 am

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 3:09 am So while the world is blowing up & our soldiers & sailors are being targeted in the ME, the SecDef is MIA for 5 days, unbeknownst to the CinC & the entire chain of command. His Deputy was vacationing in Puerto Rico & his Chief of Staff was out sick with the flu. Was the CinC back from St Croix yet, or home in DE ? Unbelievable. This is much of the same crew that brought you Benghazi.

Oh, please. I agree with the rest of your assessment except for the Benghazi reference. You've been waiting for YEARS to bring that up again and conveniently forget some of the boneheaded garbage that occurred during Orange Fatso's time like abandoning bases in Syria leaving most equipment behind for the Rooskies. You've been putting lipstick on that pig for YEARS. Also bringing up Uncle Jow vacation's again when your guy Fatso took more time off than Biden/Obama COMBINED. Not a peep from you.

I think the issue is the SecDef. This isn't the first time he has been in the hospital without else anyone knowing about it. He should go along with his CoF and anyone else who participated in covering this up. I think he is STILL in the hospital and no apology to the public or his boss. He (and parts of his staff) have to go. Maybe the House could get a volume discount and impeach Austin along with Mayorkas

The usual brainless diversion. This has nothing to do with Trump.

Gotta love the "when your guy Fatso" lie. You've explained your Trump position ad nauseam. Kismet is incredibly triggered by anything you post. Some things never change. Too bad, you're both very knowledgable on many topics.

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:57 am

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:30 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:00 pm So lets back up the bus then. Should Iran be held responsible for the carnage they have caused??? That 6 billion dollars would have helped a lot of US service members that died and lost their arms and legs. Unless you can simply disregard that and cheer for the fact these murdering mother effers in Iran just cashed a huge paycheck?? That is some brilliant freaking logic, simply freaking brilliant..... One positive thing I could say about trump... I betcha he would have never given that 6 billion back to Iran. That's a Joe Biden thang ain't it???

What Kismet said above.

Also, for the second time, how many people in the US Military have been injured by Iranian IEDs since Biden took office?

The estimates are just under 1000 KIA and several thousand more severely injured. Not that most folks on this forum give a chit about that nor do they have any interest in making Iran provide restitution. God Bless America... That billion should have been held in escrow until Iran to honor the default judgement against Iran. To paraphrase something a Fan says frequently...you break it you buy it.

1,000 US military personnel have been killed in action and several thousand more have been severely injured by Iranian IEDs since January 2021?

I'd love to read up on that if you have anything to back up those numbers? I'm seeing 13 total deaths by hostile action for 2021-2022. And those were in Afghanistan I believe.

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:19 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:57 am

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:30 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:00 pm So lets back up the bus then. Should Iran be held responsible for the carnage they have caused??? That 6 billion dollars would have helped a lot of US service members that died and lost their arms and legs. Unless you can simply disregard that and cheer for the fact these murdering mother effers in Iran just cashed a huge paycheck?? That is some brilliant freaking logic, simply freaking brilliant..... One positive thing I could say about trump... I betcha he would have never given that 6 billion back to Iran. That's a Joe Biden thang ain't it???

What Kismet said above.

Also, for the second time, how many people in the US Military have been injured by Iranian IEDs since Biden took office?

The estimates are just under 1000 KIA and several thousand more severely injured. Not that most folks on this forum give a chit about that nor do they have any interest in making Iran provide restitution. God Bless America... That billion should have been held in escrow until Iran to honor the default judgement against Iran. To paraphrase something a Fan says frequently...you break it you buy it.

1,000 US military personnel have been killed in action and several thousand more have been severely injured by Iranian IEDs since January 2021?

I'd love to read up on that if you have anything to back up those numbers? I'm seeing 13 total deaths by hostile action for 2021-2022. And those were in Afghanistan I believe.

Most of the Iranian IED casualties came during our deployments in Iraq since 2003. He cited cases in 2009 & 2011.

He also said that what Iran's been doing since Jan 2021 was a different issue. I believe he was referring to attacks by Iran's proxies targeting US forces in Iraq & Syria, & now the Red Sea, sonce Biden took office.

tech37 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 8:30 am

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 8:26 am

Kismet wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 6:17 am

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 3:09 am So while the world is blowing up & our soldiers & sailors are being targeted in the ME, the SecDef is MIA for 5 days, unbeknownst to the CinC & the entire chain of command. His Deputy was vacationing in Puerto Rico & his Chief of Staff was out sick with the flu. Was the CinC back from St Croix yet, or home in DE ? Unbelievable. This is much of the same crew that brought you Benghazi.

Oh, please. I agree with the rest of your assessment except for the Benghazi reference. You've been waiting for YEARS to bring that up again and conveniently forget some of the boneheaded garbage that occurred during Orange Fatso's time like abandoning bases in Syria leaving most equipment behind for the Rooskies. You've been putting lipstick on that pig for YEARS. Also bringing up Uncle Jow vacation's again when your guy Fatso took more time off than Biden/Obama COMBINED. Not a peep from you.

I think the issue is the SecDef. This isn't the first time he has been in the hospital without else anyone knowing about it. He should go along with his CoF and anyone else who participated in covering this up. I think he is STILL in the hospital and no apology to the public or his boss. He (and parts of his staff) have to go. Maybe the House could get a volume discount and impeach Austin along with Mayorkas

The usual brainless diversion. This has nothing to do with Trump.

Gotta love the "when your guy Fatso" lie. You've explained your Trump position ad nauseam. Kismet is incredibly triggered by anything you post. Some things never change. Too bad, you're both very knowledgable on many topics.

I'm not 'triggered" by Fatso. Merely pointing out Saltine's incredible double standards about government activity when his people are in charge.

I used Fatso's activity on vacations and security as examples when Saltine gave them a complete pass on both.

Kismet wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:06 am

tech37 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 8:30 am

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 8:26 am

Kismet wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 6:17 am

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 3:09 am So while the world is blowing up & our soldiers & sailors are being targeted in the ME, the SecDef is MIA for 5 days, unbeknownst to the CinC & the entire chain of command. His Deputy was vacationing in Puerto Rico & his Chief of Staff was out sick with the flu. Was the CinC back from St Croix yet, or home in DE ? Unbelievable. This is much of the same crew that brought you Benghazi.

Oh, please. I agree with the rest of your assessment except for the Benghazi reference. You've been waiting for YEARS to bring that up again and conveniently forget some of the boneheaded garbage that occurred during Orange Fatso's time like abandoning bases in Syria leaving most equipment behind for the Rooskies. You've been putting lipstick on that pig for YEARS. Also bringing up Uncle Jow vacation's again when your guy Fatso took more time off than Biden/Obama COMBINED. Not a peep from you.

I think the issue is the SecDef. This isn't the first time he has been in the hospital without else anyone knowing about it. He should go along with his CoF and anyone else who participated in covering this up. I think he is STILL in the hospital and no apology to the public or his boss. He (and parts of his staff) have to go. Maybe the House could get a volume discount and impeach Austin along with Mayorkas

The usual brainless diversion. This has nothing to do with Trump.

Gotta love the "when your guy Fatso" lie. You've explained your Trump position ad nauseam. Kismet is incredibly triggered by anything you post. Some things never change. Too bad, you're both very knowledgable on many topics.

I'm not 'triggered" by Fatso. Merely pointing out Saltine's incredible double standards about government activity when his people are in charge.

I used Fatso's activity on vacations and security as examples when Saltine gave them a complete pass on both.

...as compared to your TDS double standard ? When was Trump ever out of the loop with his national security chain of command ?
The SecDefs he selected never pulled a stunt like this.

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:01 am

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:19 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:57 am

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:30 pm What Kismet said above.

Also, for the second time, how many people in the US Military have been injured by Iranian IEDs since Biden took office?

The estimates are just under 1000 KIA and several thousand more severely injured. Not that most folks on this forum give a chit about that nor do they have any interest in making Iran provide restitution. God Bless America... That billion should have been held in escrow until Iran to honor the default judgement against Iran. To paraphrase something a Fan says frequently...you break it you buy it.

1,000 US military personnel have been killed in action and several thousand more have been severely injured by Iranian IEDs since January 2021?

I'd love to read up on that if you have anything to back up those numbers? I'm seeing 13 total deaths by hostile action for 2021-2022. And those were in Afghanistan I believe.

Most of the Iranian IED casualties came during our deployments in Iraq since 2003. He cited cases in 2009 & 2011.

He also said that what Iran's been doing since Jan 2021 was a different issue. I believe he was referring to attacks by Iran's proxies targeting US forces in Iraq & Syria, & now the Red Sea, sonce Biden took office.

So Iranian IEDs have not killed 1,000 US military personnel and injured several thousand more since Biden took office.

Have they killed or injured any US military personnel since then?

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:08 am

Kismet wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:06 am

tech37 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 8:30 am

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 8:26 am

Kismet wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 6:17 am

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 3:09 am So while the world is blowing up & our soldiers & sailors are being targeted in the ME, the SecDef is MIA for 5 days, unbeknownst to the CinC & the entire chain of command. His Deputy was vacationing in Puerto Rico & his Chief of Staff was out sick with the flu. Was the CinC back from St Croix yet, or home in DE ? Unbelievable. This is much of the same crew that brought you Benghazi.

Oh, please. I agree with the rest of your assessment except for the Benghazi reference. You've been waiting for YEARS to bring that up again and conveniently forget some of the boneheaded garbage that occurred during Orange Fatso's time like abandoning bases in Syria leaving most equipment behind for the Rooskies. You've been putting lipstick on that pig for YEARS. Also bringing up Uncle Jow vacation's again when your guy Fatso took more time off than Biden/Obama COMBINED. Not a peep from you.

I think the issue is the SecDef. This isn't the first time he has been in the hospital without else anyone knowing about it. He should go along with his CoF and anyone else who participated in covering this up. I think he is STILL in the hospital and no apology to the public or his boss. He (and parts of his staff) have to go. Maybe the House could get a volume discount and impeach Austin along with Mayorkas

The usual brainless diversion. This has nothing to do with Trump.

Gotta love the "when your guy Fatso" lie. You've explained your Trump position ad nauseam. Kismet is incredibly triggered by anything you post. Some things never change. Too bad, you're both very knowledgable on many topics.

I'm not 'triggered" by Fatso. Merely pointing out Saltine's incredible double standards about government activity when his people are in charge.

I used Fatso's activity on vacations and security as examples when Saltine gave them a complete pass on both.

...as compared to your TDS double standard ? When was Trump ever out of the loop with his national security chain of command ?
The SecDefs he selected never pulled a stunt like this.

Fatso fired one them and the other resigned because he could not support the policy.
If you think Fatso was in the loop in every case with his NSC as a matter of course routinely you're delusional.
They were reportedly not aware of his decision to cross into NK for the photo op with his Fatso dictator love interest.

Kismet wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:06 am

tech37 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 8:30 am

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 8:26 am

Kismet wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 6:17 am

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 3:09 am So while the world is blowing up & our soldiers & sailors are being targeted in the ME, the SecDef is MIA for 5 days, unbeknownst to the CinC & the entire chain of command. His Deputy was vacationing in Puerto Rico & his Chief of Staff was out sick with the flu. Was the CinC back from St Croix yet, or home in DE ? Unbelievable. This is much of the same crew that brought you Benghazi.

Oh, please. I agree with the rest of your assessment except for the Benghazi reference. You've been waiting for YEARS to bring that up again and conveniently forget some of the boneheaded garbage that occurred during Orange Fatso's time like abandoning bases in Syria leaving most equipment behind for the Rooskies. You've been putting lipstick on that pig for YEARS. Also bringing up Uncle Jow vacation's again when your guy Fatso took more time off than Biden/Obama COMBINED. Not a peep from you.

I think the issue is the SecDef. This isn't the first time he has been in the hospital without else anyone knowing about it. He should go along with his CoF and anyone else who participated in covering this up. I think he is STILL in the hospital and no apology to the public or his boss. He (and parts of his staff) have to go. Maybe the House could get a volume discount and impeach Austin along with Mayorkas

The usual brainless diversion. This has nothing to do with Trump.

Gotta love the "when your guy Fatso" lie. You've explained your Trump position ad nauseam. Kismet is incredibly triggered by anything you post. Some things never change. Too bad, you're both very knowledgable on many topics.

I'm not 'triggered" by Fatso.

Not what I wrote... I wrote you're triggered by OS

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:24 am

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:01 am

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:19 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:57 am

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:30 pm What Kismet said above.

Also, for the second time, how many people in the US Military have been injured by Iranian IEDs since Biden took office?

The estimates are just under 1000 KIA and several thousand more severely injured. Not that most folks on this forum give a chit about that nor do they have any interest in making Iran provide restitution. God Bless America... That billion should have been held in escrow until Iran to honor the default judgement against Iran. To paraphrase something a Fan says frequently...you break it you buy it.

1,000 US military personnel have been killed in action and several thousand more have been severely injured by Iranian IEDs since January 2021?

I'd love to read up on that if you have anything to back up those numbers? I'm seeing 13 total deaths by hostile action for 2021-2022. And those were in Afghanistan I believe.

Most of the Iranian IED casualties came during our deployments in Iraq since 2003. He cited cases in 2009 & 2011.

He also said that what Iran's been doing since Jan 2021 was a different issue. I believe he was referring to attacks by Iran's proxies targeting US forces in Iraq & Syria, & now the Red Sea, sonce Biden took office.

So Iranian IEDs have not killed 1,000 US military personnel and injured several thousand more since Biden took office.

Have they killed or injured any US military personnel since then?

The Iranians arm their proxies, who do the killing on their behalf.