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jrn19 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:31 pm

AreaLax wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:22 pm Former Brown goalie Connor Theriault will spend his graduate season with @TampaMLax, he tells @Inside_Lacrosse.

The People’s Goalie was a three-year starter for the Bears, stopping 51.5% in 44 games.

https://x.com/terencefoy/status/1802082 ... EO2hFStaxg

Surprised he couldn't find a home in D1. Lot of teams will need goalies.

Wheels wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:30 pm

Powellfan22 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:04 pm

Bmk2222 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 3:42 pm

Powellfan22 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 2:49 pm

Wheels wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 1:30 pm Tills must think the team has a deep run in them for 2025 with the offense he's added in particular. Ward and Hernandez are multi-year players. It's the loading up on graduate transfers that tells you that he thinks those player will potentially get the Terps over the top.

Or he’s desperate and throwing as many darts as possible at a problem area.

Didn’t he just go to Memorial Day with a FO guy & a Close D guy, that’s about all? Doubt he’s desperate lol

Yes, and those two are now gone. I think he got some nice players, but there’s something about grabbing any and every transfer in the portal that seems off to me. It will be a big step up for a lot of these guys.

The two young guys in Ward and Hernandez are different than the graduate transfers. Tills is bringing those grads in to not just steady the ship. The Terps return more than enough to be a Top 10 or better team next year. He's bringing in those graduate transfers for a Memorial Day run. Losing Wierman is a huge loss, but there's a lot of confidence in the program with Shea Keethler to be the main FOGO with Sean Creter developing for the following years. The close defense, even with Zappitello's graduation, is going to be very good next year with Canfield, Burlace, Schaller, and an incoming pole like Laake. Bringing in Goorno shores up the shorty unit. The LSM unit is set. Maybe Hernandez can be the 3rd LSM, but McDonald and Larkin are well above average LSMs.

The offense last year needed 2 things. More dodging but more importantly more shooting. If you look at what Tills specifically brought in, you see very good shooters in Armitage, Keegan, and now Dowd. That will open a lot of space for dodging. Ford adds some pop with his dodging and distribution (replacing Malever). The midfield will run 2 deep again but will have better balance. Next year with these transfers is the bridge to the next cluster of impact recruits on offense for the 2026 season.

coda wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 9:45 am

wgdsr wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 9:08 am

coda wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 8:59 am

Finster wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 8:42 am

Late Slide wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:32 pm This is not going to be a popular comment because folks scream all things player rights but I have a lot of dissonance with the transfer at the drop of the hat culture against the play for your team, lean on each other when you’re down by one and the fourth quarter, Fox hole sentiment. Every damn team brings in inspirational speakers to preach loyalty and selling your soul for your brothers. I absolutely understand that kids sometimes “need“ to transfer. But transferring now is wild, and its completely misaligned with the rah rah - high five mentality preached on the side lines.

It reminds me when my son was going through the D1 recruiting process and many coaches would implore my son to respect them and the program and let them know as soon as possible when he was no longer interested in the school all the while the very same coaches would immediately ghost once the recruit a slot up on the dry erase board committed. The whole damn thing is one big con.

It's not a con, it's simply life. If a coach loses out on a recruit to another school, he can't spend his life still still communicating with the kid. That wouldn't be fair to the kids who came to his program. Not to mention, it would likely be illegal.

Let's be honest, it is pretty dirty. I am not a fan of all the flipping and transferring, but the coaches pull all kind of things. It is all fair in love, war and recruiting, but it is adults vs kids in recruiting.

yes, it is. has been that way for a pretty long time, though. just different instruments at any point in time. if you're a "star", life is pretty good. outside of that, you better be pretty sure of what you're in for. and what you want to get out of it. this has been known, eyes wide open.

yes, 5 stars are pretty good. There are still things that go on. Coaches will let it be known if you pick up a call/visit and are committed elsewhere. This is where you want a good relationship with your HS head coach. He can be the intermediary and help you through the process.

Wheels wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:30 pm

Powellfan22 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:04 pm

Bmk2222 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 3:42 pm

Powellfan22 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 2:49 pm

Wheels wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 1:30 pm Tills must think the team has a deep run in them for 2025 with the offense he's added in particular. Ward and Hernandez are multi-year players. It's the loading up on graduate transfers that tells you that he thinks those player will potentially get the Terps over the top.

Or he’s desperate and throwing as many darts as possible at a problem area.

Didn’t he just go to Memorial Day with a FO guy & a Close D guy, that’s about all? Doubt he’s desperate lol

Yes, and those two are now gone. I think he got some nice players, but there’s something about grabbing any and every transfer in the portal that seems off to me. It will be a big step up for a lot of these guys.

The two young guys in Ward and Hernandez are different than the graduate transfers. Tills is bringing those grads in to not just steady the ship. The Terps return more than enough to be a Top 10 or better team next year. He's bringing in those graduate transfers for a Memorial Day run. Losing Wierman is a huge loss, but there's a lot of confidence in the program with Shea Keethler to be the main FOGO with Sean Creter developing for the following years. The close defense, even with Zappitello's graduation, is going to be very good next year with Canfield, Burlace, Schaller, and an incoming pole like Laake. Bringing in Goorno shores up the shorty unit. The LSM unit is set. Maybe Hernandez can be the 3rd LSM, but McDonald and Larkin are well above average LSMs.

The offense last year needed 2 things. More dodging but more importantly more shooting. If you look at what Tills specifically brought in, you see very good shooters in Armitage, Keegan, and now Dowd. That will open a lot of space for dodging. Ford adds some pop with his dodging and distribution (replacing Malever). The midfield will run 2 deep again but will have better balance. Next year with these transfers is the bridge to the next cluster of impact recruits on offense for the 2026 season.

mdk01 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:42 pm

jrn19 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:31 pm

AreaLax wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:22 pm Former Brown goalie Connor Theriault will spend his graduate season with @TampaMLax, he tells @Inside_Lacrosse.

The People’s Goalie was a three-year starter for the Bears, stopping 51.5% in 44 games.

https://x.com/terencefoy/status/1802082 ... EO2hFStaxg

Surprised he couldn't find a home in D1. Lot of teams will need goalies.

Ironically, some of those teams are Ivies.

jrn19 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:31 pm

AreaLax wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:22 pm Former Brown goalie Connor Theriault will spend his graduate season with @TampaMLax, he tells @Inside_Lacrosse.

The People’s Goalie was a three-year starter for the Bears, stopping 51.5% in 44 games.

https://x.com/terencefoy/status/1802082 ... EO2hFStaxg

Surprised he couldn't find a home in D1. Lot of teams will need goalies.

Laxxal22 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 6:17 am

jrn19 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:31 pm

AreaLax wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:22 pm Former Brown goalie Connor Theriault will spend his graduate season with @TampaMLax, he tells @Inside_Lacrosse.

The People’s Goalie was a three-year starter for the Bears, stopping 51.5% in 44 games.

https://x.com/terencefoy/status/1802082 ... EO2hFStaxg

Surprised he couldn't find a home in D1. Lot of teams will need goalies.

Are we sure he wanted that? Spending your 5th year in sunny Florida on a team that has fun and destroys most of its competition sounds pretty great compated to grinding it out for one year on a fringe competitor in D1... The People's Goalie made the everyman's decision imo. I hope he crushes it.

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 7:13 am

Laxxal22 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 6:17 am

jrn19 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:31 pm

AreaLax wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:22 pm Former Brown goalie Connor Theriault will spend his graduate season with @TampaMLax, he tells @Inside_Lacrosse.

The People’s Goalie was a three-year starter for the Bears, stopping 51.5% in 44 games.

https://x.com/terencefoy/status/1802082 ... EO2hFStaxg

Surprised he couldn't find a home in D1. Lot of teams will need goalies.

Are we sure he wanted that? Spending your 5th year in sunny Florida on a team that has fun and destroys most of its competition sounds pretty great compated to grinding it out for one year on a fringe competitor in D1... The People's Goalie made the everyman's decision imo. I hope he crushes it.

He’s gonna be crushing that bread and oil in the “scrimps” at Columbia restaurant in Ybor City once he discovers that delightful spot!

I’d be eating here every day if I lived in Tampa. https://www.columbiarestaurant.com/ybor-city-tampa

Maybe an occasional break as I’ve had surprisingly good Pho down there but spare me the large rock no brine gulf oysters.

coda wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 9:45 am

wgdsr wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 9:08 am

coda wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 8:59 am

Finster wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 8:42 am

Late Slide wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:32 pm This is not going to be a popular comment because folks scream all things player rights but I have a lot of dissonance with the transfer at the drop of the hat culture against the play for your team, lean on each other when you’re down by one and the fourth quarter, Fox hole sentiment. Every damn team brings in inspirational speakers to preach loyalty and selling your soul for your brothers. I absolutely understand that kids sometimes “need“ to transfer. But transferring now is wild, and its completely misaligned with the rah rah - high five mentality preached on the side lines.

It reminds me when my son was going through the D1 recruiting process and many coaches would implore my son to respect them and the program and let them know as soon as possible when he was no longer interested in the school all the while the very same coaches would immediately ghost once the recruit a slot up on the dry erase board committed. The whole damn thing is one big con.

It's not a con, it's simply life. If a coach loses out on a recruit to another school, he can't spend his life still still communicating with the kid. That wouldn't be fair to the kids who came to his program. Not to mention, it would likely be illegal.

Let's be honest, it is pretty dirty. I am not a fan of all the flipping and transferring, but the coaches pull all kind of things. It is all fair in love, war and recruiting, but it is adults vs kids in recruiting.

yes, it is. has been that way for a pretty long time, though. just different instruments at any point in time. if you're a "star", life is pretty good. outside of that, you better be pretty sure of what you're in for. and what you want to get out of it. this has been known, eyes wide open.

yes, 5 stars are pretty good. There are still things that go on. Coaches will let it be known if you pick up a call/visit and are committed elsewhere. This is where you want a good relationship with your HS head coach. He can be the intermediary and help you through the process.

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 5:38 am

coda wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 9:45 am

wgdsr wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 9:08 am

coda wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 8:59 am

Finster wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 8:42 am

Late Slide wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:32 pm This is not going to be a popular comment because folks scream all things player rights but I have a lot of dissonance with the transfer at the drop of the hat culture against the play for your team, lean on each other when you’re down by one and the fourth quarter, Fox hole sentiment. Every damn team brings in inspirational speakers to preach loyalty and selling your soul for your brothers. I absolutely understand that kids sometimes “need“ to transfer. But transferring now is wild, and its completely misaligned with the rah rah - high five mentality preached on the side lines.

It reminds me when my son was going through the D1 recruiting process and many coaches would implore my son to respect them and the program and let them know as soon as possible when he was no longer interested in the school all the while the very same coaches would immediately ghost once the recruit a slot up on the dry erase board committed. The whole damn thing is one big con.

It's not a con, it's simply life. If a coach loses out on a recruit to another school, he can't spend his life still still communicating with the kid. That wouldn't be fair to the kids who came to his program. Not to mention, it would likely be illegal.

Let's be honest, it is pretty dirty. I am not a fan of all the flipping and transferring, but the coaches pull all kind of things. It is all fair in love, war and recruiting, but it is adults vs kids in recruiting.

yes, it is. has been that way for a pretty long time, though. just different instruments at any point in time. if you're a "star", life is pretty good. outside of that, you better be pretty sure of what you're in for. and what you want to get out of it. this has been known, eyes wide open.

yes, 5 stars are pretty good. There are still things that go on. Coaches will let it be known if you pick up a call/visit and are committed elsewhere. This is where you want a good relationship with your HS head coach. He can be the intermediary and help you through the process.

Who doesn’t want a good relationship a their HS coach? Want.

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 5:42 am

Wheels wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:30 pm

Powellfan22 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:04 pm

Bmk2222 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 3:42 pm

Powellfan22 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 2:49 pm

Wheels wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 1:30 pm Tills must think the team has a deep run in them for 2025 with the offense he's added in particular. Ward and Hernandez are multi-year players. It's the loading up on graduate transfers that tells you that he thinks those player will potentially get the Terps over the top.

Or he’s desperate and throwing as many darts as possible at a problem area.

Didn’t he just go to Memorial Day with a FO guy & a Close D guy, that’s about all? Doubt he’s desperate lol

Yes, and those two are now gone. I think he got some nice players, but there’s something about grabbing any and every transfer in the portal that seems off to me. It will be a big step up for a lot of these guys.

The two young guys in Ward and Hernandez are different than the graduate transfers. Tills is bringing those grads in to not just steady the ship. The Terps return more than enough to be a Top 10 or better team next year. He's bringing in those graduate transfers for a Memorial Day run. Losing Wierman is a huge loss, but there's a lot of confidence in the program with Shea Keethler to be the main FOGO with Sean Creter developing for the following years. The close defense, even with Zappitello's graduation, is going to be very good next year with Canfield, Burlace, Schaller, and an incoming pole like Laake. Bringing in Goorno shores up the shorty unit. The LSM unit is set. Maybe Hernandez can be the 3rd LSM, but McDonald and Larkin are well above average LSMs.

The offense last year needed 2 things. More dodging but more importantly more shooting. If you look at what Tills specifically brought in, you see very good shooters in Armitage, Keegan, and now Dowd. That will open a lot of space for dodging. Ford adds some pop with his dodging and distribution (replacing Malever). The midfield will run 2 deep again but will have better balance. Next year with these transfers is the bridge to the next cluster of impact recruits on offense for the 2026 season.

Is gravino going to play at all and you sure creter won’t win the main job? Notwithstanding that one game vs Brown where he was getting his feet wet at this level.

3rdPersonPlural wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 10:30 am I thought about opening a new thread for this question but then I figured that the folks posting here would be the ones with the thoughtful answers:

If I'm a 5 star HS Senior looking to choose a college and hoping to play lacrosse (not pace the sidelines) at my college, I'd like to hear a coach say 'half my contributing (name the HS seniors position) are graduating and there will be an opportunity for real playing time for you." or even: "You'd be a real 'get' for us! If you show me what I've seen so far, you'll see the field a LOT as a Frosh!".

So I commit to a place where I'm a fit and can actually contribute and (most importantly -- Play). Then, come the summer before I show up on campus, and the coach brings in a bunch of stud transfers with accolades and I'm seeing myself getting nudged down the depth chart. I'd be a little deflated, and feel more than a little misled.

Can Frosh recruits decommit as late as when the transfers get picked up? Not in my day, of course, but I'm asking about under the new regime.

What options do HS recruits have?

Is the pitch now "If you compliment the studs we portal, then you'll see the field. Next year, if you rock, we'll get portal studs that compliment you!" or something like that?

Does anyone have any insight on how this is working in this day and age?

Thanks in advance!

3rdPersonPlural wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 10:30 am I thought about opening a new thread for this question but then I figured that the folks posting here would be the ones with the thoughtful answers:

If I'm a 5 star HS Senior looking to choose a college and hoping to play lacrosse (not pace the sidelines) at my college, I'd like to hear a coach say 'half my contributing (name the HS seniors position) are graduating and there will be an opportunity for real playing time for you." or even: "You'd be a real 'get' for us! If you show me what I've seen so far, you'll see the field a LOT as a Frosh!".

So I commit to a place where I'm a fit and can actually contribute and (most importantly -- Play). Then, come the summer before I show up on campus, and the coach brings in a bunch of stud transfers with accolades and I'm seeing myself getting nudged down the depth chart. I'd be a little deflated, and feel more than a little misled.

Can Frosh recruits decommit as late as when the transfers get picked up? Not in my day, of course, but I'm asking about under the new regime.

What options do HS recruits have?

Is the pitch now "If you compliment the studs we portal, then you'll see the field. Next year, if you rock, we'll get portal studs that compliment you!" or something like that?

Does anyone have any insight on how this is working in this day and age?

Thanks in advance!

What options do HS recruits have?

3rdPersonPlural wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 10:30 am I thought about opening a new thread for this question but then I figured that the folks posting here would be the ones with the thoughtful answers:

If I'm a 5 star HS Senior looking to choose a college and hoping to play lacrosse (not pace the sidelines) at my college, I'd like to hear a coach say 'half my contributing (name the HS seniors position) are graduating and there will be an opportunity for real playing time for you." or even: "You'd be a real 'get' for us! If you show me what I've seen so far, you'll see the field a LOT as a Frosh!".

So I commit to a place where I'm a fit and can actually contribute and (most importantly -- Play). Then, come the summer before I show up on campus, and the coach brings in a bunch of stud transfers with accolades and I'm seeing myself getting nudged down the depth chart. I'd be a little deflated, and feel more than a little misled.

Can Frosh recruits decommit as late as when the transfers get picked up? Not in my day, of course, but I'm asking about under the new regime.

What options do HS recruits have?

Is the pitch now "If you compliment the studs we portal, then you'll see the field. Next year, if you rock, we'll get portal studs that compliment you!" or something like that?

Does anyone have any insight on how this is working in this day and age?

Thanks in advance!

10stone5 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 10:58 am

What options do HS recruits have?

Redshirt.
Shellenberger redshirted, worked out well for him.

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 5:43 am

mdk01 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:42 pm

jrn19 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:31 pm

AreaLax wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:22 pm Former Brown goalie Connor Theriault will spend his graduate season with @TampaMLax, he tells @Inside_Lacrosse.

The People’s Goalie was a three-year starter for the Bears, stopping 51.5% in 44 games.

https://x.com/terencefoy/status/1802082 ... EO2hFStaxg

Surprised he couldn't find a home in D1. Lot of teams will need goalies.

Ironically, some of those teams are Ivies.

Yes. It there aren’t taking a grad student transfer