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Re: Israel and Zionism

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 12:32 pm
by cradleandshoot
Kismet wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 10:36 am
youthathletics wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:56 am Coincidence it comes shortly after a 6 billion infusion into Tehran from the US?
$6 billion was South Korean funds not US.
Hamas is SUNNI and are not aligned with Tehran, in fact, they hate Shiites on an equal if not greater level than Jews. Their weapons originate through the Qataris and Egyptians.

Looks like its designed to upend the Saudi-Israel deal more than anything.

Thanks for injecting the standard political angles as usual. :oops:
Brilliant observation, the more progressive minded folks on this forum would never insert standard political angles on a topic. That would be unthinkable. :D

Re: Israel and Zionism

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 12:42 pm
by cradleandshoot
An argument could be made that the same sleepy Joe Biden who boldly declared not one foot of border wall would be built during his administration is the same sleepy Joe Biden who assured the American people that not a single penny of that 6 billion would ever be used for Iranian sponsored terrorism. That has to be true because sleepy Joe Biden said so. FTR I know I am guilty of the crime of using a run on sentence. So all of you grammar nazis can just settle down and move along. :D

Re: Israel and Zionism

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 12:57 pm
by cradleandshoot
Anybody want to hazard a guess what the Israeli response will be?? One thing about all those rockets being fired is backtracking their point of origin isn't that hard to do. IMO there will wind up being a lot of flattened and burned out real estate in Gaza. There will be many more deaths and there is no logic to these attacks outside of the expected response from Israel. When you poke the bear the bear will poke back. This is all just so much stupid and senseless BS.

Re: Israel and Zionism

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 2:51 pm
by cradleandshoot
This is reminiscent of the Tet Offensive back in the day. The Israelis were caught off guard. There will be brutal and barbaric retribution on the part of Israel. This will not end well. I have no idea what Hamas was thinking. Large stretches of the Gaza strip will soon be burned out rubble. One can only wonder where this debacle will lead. After the dust settled on Tet the Vietcong pretty much ceased to exist as an effective fighting force. That same result is likely the fate of Hamas. This is a huge effing deal and it will only become more complicated in the coming days

Re: Israel and Zionism

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 3:33 pm
by Kismet
While I'm sure there will be retaliatory actions by the IDF also keep in mind that the Hamas terrorists have 100s of hostages both Israeli citizens and soldiers who have now ostensibly been taken back to Gaza likely to be used as human shields.

Re: Israel and Zionism

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 3:43 pm
by Seacoaster(1)
youthathletics wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:56 am Coincidence it comes shortly after a 6 billion infusion into Tehran from the US?
Episode 74 of YA and the Algorithmics: Just Putting Sh*t Out There?

No US tax dollars were sent to Iran, no "infusion into Tehran from the US. Iranian funds frozen in South Korea were transferred to Qatar. That money can only be spent on humanitarian supplies. None of the funds have even been spent yet. This was an attack by a terrorist organization on Israel and, more specifically, on Israeli civilians.

But guys like you and JD Vance and Stephen Miller (nice company, YA, a bootlicking liar and a racist) have to echo out some false points. Any chance you could get a hold of yourself one of these days?

Re: Israel and Zionism

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:08 pm
by PizzaSnake
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 3:43 pm
youthathletics wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:56 am Coincidence it comes shortly after a 6 billion infusion into Tehran from the US?
Episode 74 of YA and the Algorithmics: Just Putting Sh*t Out There?

No US tax dollars were sent to Iran, no "infusion into Tehran from the US. Iranian funds frozen in South Korea were transferred to Qatar. That money can only be spent on humanitarian supplies. None of the funds have even been spent yet. This was an attack by a terrorist organization on Israel and, more specifically, on Israeli civilians.

But guys like you and JD Vance and Stephen Miller (nice company, YA, a bootlicking liar and a racist) have to echo out some false points. Any chance you could get a hold of yourself one of these days?

Re: Israel and Zionism

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:16 pm
by cradleandshoot
Kismet wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 3:33 pm While I'm sure there will be retaliatory actions by the IDF also keep in mind that the Hamas terrorists have 100s of hostages both Israeli citizens and soldiers who have now ostensibly been taken back to Gaza likely to be used as human shields.
I don't think the Israelis give a rats rear end about their people being used as human shields. Hamas just effed up in a huge way. Not to be insensitive about the fate of these Israeli citizens. IMO any Israeli citizen understands this is a risk they live with everyday. I don't know how Netanahu will respond but it will be brutal. I think when he said we are at war he meant it. War is hell and that is what the next few weeks will be like.

Re: Israel and Zionism

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:19 pm
by PizzaSnake
Will this officially mark the end of the PaxAmericana?

Re: Israel and Zionism

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:26 pm
by cradleandshoot
PizzaSnake wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:08 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 3:43 pm
youthathletics wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:56 am Coincidence it comes shortly after a 6 billion infusion into Tehran from the US?
Episode 74 of YA and the Algorithmics: Just Putting Sh*t Out There?

No US tax dollars were sent to Iran, no "infusion into Tehran from the US. Iranian funds frozen in South Korea were transferred to Qatar. That money can only be spent on humanitarian supplies. None of the funds have even been spent yet. This was an attack by a terrorist organization on Israel and, more specifically, on Israeli civilians.

But guys like you and JD Vance and Stephen Miller (nice company, YA, a bootlicking liar and a racist) have to echo out some false points. Any chance you could get a hold of yourself one of these days?
You know diddly jack chit about how any of this attack was financed or planned. When I hear Sleepy Joe Biden and his crew say not a penny of that 6 billion will be used to support terrorism... just like not a single foot of border wall will be built during his administration. :roll: :roll: :roll: The one thing that is crystal clear to me... you effing Democrats and Republicans are all liars. You are impressive at the lengths you all will go to justify and defend your parties lies.

Democrats + Republicans = 💩💩💩💩

Re: Israel and Zionism

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:32 pm
by Kismet
cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:16 pm
Kismet wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 3:33 pm While I'm sure there will be retaliatory actions by the IDF also keep in mind that the Hamas terrorists have 100s of hostages both Israeli citizens and soldiers who have now ostensibly been taken back to Gaza likely to be used as human shields.
I don't think the Israelis give a rats rear end about their people being used as human shields. Hamas just effed up in a huge way. Not to be insensitive about the fate of these Israeli citizens. IMO any Israeli citizen understands this is a risk they live with everyday. I don't know how Netanahu will respond but it will be brutal. I think when he said we are at war he meant it. War is hell and that is what the next few weeks will be like.
wouldn't be the first time you'd likely be dead wrong about something. :oops:

Re: Israel and Zionism

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:38 pm
by cradleandshoot
PizzaSnake wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:19 pm Will this officially mark the end of the PaxAmericana?
I understand you want to lighten the mood. What humor do you find in the repercussions that are about to happen? This is not about Israel and Hamas this is about Israel and Iran. This is the chitstorm that has been years in the making. Ask yourself this question what nation could have organized such a sophisticated and well planned attack? If your clueless as I think you might be do a little bit of research. :roll:

Re: Israel and Zionism

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:41 pm
by cradleandshoot
Kismet wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:32 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:16 pm
Kismet wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 3:33 pm While I'm sure there will be retaliatory actions by the IDF also keep in mind that the Hamas terrorists have 100s of hostages both Israeli citizens and soldiers who have now ostensibly been taken back to Gaza likely to be used as human shields.
I don't think the Israelis give a rats rear end about their people being used as human shields. Hamas just effed up in a huge way. Not to be insensitive about the fate of these Israeli citizens. IMO any Israeli citizen understands this is a risk they live with everyday. I don't know how Netanahu will respond but it will be brutal. I think when he said we are at war he meant it. War is hell and that is what the next few weeks will be like.
wouldn't be the first time you'd likely be dead wrong about something. :oops:
This is one of those things I would be very happy to be dead wrong about. If you don't understand why then you truly are an industrial strength dumbass. :roll: Maybe you can put on your thinking cap and share with us your wisdom. How do you see a happy ending to this? Enlightened us all how this plays out...

Re: Israel and Zionism

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:43 pm
by Farfromgeneva
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 3:43 pm
youthathletics wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:56 am Coincidence it comes shortly after a 6 billion infusion into Tehran from the US?
Episode 74 of YA and the Algorithmics: Just Putting Sh*t Out There?

No US tax dollars were sent to Iran, no "infusion into Tehran from the US. Iranian funds frozen in South Korea were transferred to Qatar. That money can only be spent on humanitarian supplies. None of the funds have even been spent yet. This was an attack by a terrorist organization on Israel and, more specifically, on Israeli civilians.

But guys like you and JD Vance and Stephen Miller (nice company, YA, a bootlicking liar and a racist) have to echo out some false points. Any chance you could get a hold of yourself one of these days?
Just remember if you take on Don Cheadle can handle you because all he needs is the “algorithm of the night”

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EKHrtBEJWrM

Re: Israel and Zionism

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:45 pm
by Farfromgeneva
PizzaSnake wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:08 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 3:43 pm
youthathletics wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:56 am Coincidence it comes shortly after a 6 billion infusion into Tehran from the US?
Episode 74 of YA and the Algorithmics: Just Putting Sh*t Out There?

No US tax dollars were sent to Iran, no "infusion into Tehran from the US. Iranian funds frozen in South Korea were transferred to Qatar. That money can only be spent on humanitarian supplies. None of the funds have even been spent yet. This was an attack by a terrorist organization on Israel and, more specifically, on Israeli civilians.

But guys like you and JD Vance and Stephen Miller (nice company, YA, a bootlicking liar and a racist) have to echo out some false points. Any chance you could get a hold of yourself one of these days?
Honest question, do you like that song?

Re: Israel and Zionism

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:47 pm
by Brooklyn
Funny how forum right wingers continue to try to pin any of this on Biden since no proof that been shown that Shiia Iran suddenly allied itself with Sunni Hamas even though they are at war.

All these delusionals are doing is to again prove how ignorant they are about these issues.

Re: Israel and Zionism

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:56 pm
by Seacoaster(1)
cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:26 pm
PizzaSnake wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:08 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 3:43 pm
youthathletics wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:56 am Coincidence it comes shortly after a 6 billion infusion into Tehran from the US?
Episode 74 of YA and the Algorithmics: Just Putting Sh*t Out There?

No US tax dollars were sent to Iran, no "infusion into Tehran from the US. Iranian funds frozen in South Korea were transferred to Qatar. That money can only be spent on humanitarian supplies. None of the funds have even been spent yet. This was an attack by a terrorist organization on Israel and, more specifically, on Israeli civilians.

But guys like you and JD Vance and Stephen Miller (nice company, YA, a bootlicking liar and a racist) have to echo out some false points. Any chance you could get a hold of yourself one of these days?
You know diddly jack chit about how any of this attack was financed or planned. When I hear Sleepy Joe Biden and his crew say not a penny of that 6 billion will be used to support terrorism... just like not a single foot of border wall will be built during his administration. :roll: :roll: :roll: The one thing that is crystal clear to me... you effing Democrats and Republicans are all liars. You are impressive at the lengths you all will go to justify and defend your parties lies.

Democrats + Republicans = 💩💩💩💩
Within the untamed garden of this word salad, you’re basically making my point. No one has any idea what caused or financed this painfully stupid operation. But the current disposition of those funds negates any notion of a straight line between (Shia) Tehran and (Sunni) Hamas. Send your admonitory invective to Youth Algorithm, who work day and night to track everything back to “Obama’s Desk.”

Re: Israel and Zionism

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:57 pm
by cradleandshoot
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:45 pm
PizzaSnake wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:08 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 3:43 pm
youthathletics wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:56 am Coincidence it comes shortly after a 6 billion infusion into Tehran from the US?
Episode 74 of YA and the Algorithmics: Just Putting Sh*t Out There?

No US tax dollars were sent to Iran, no "infusion into Tehran from the US. Iranian funds frozen in South Korea were transferred to Qatar. That money can only be spent on humanitarian supplies. None of the funds have even been spent yet. This was an attack by a terrorist organization on Israel and, more specifically, on Israeli civilians.

But guys like you and JD Vance and Stephen Miller (nice company, YA, a bootlicking liar and a racist) have to echo out some false points. Any chance you could get a hold of yourself one of these days?
Honest question, do you like that song?
Dude a young pup like you don't get it. The 80s were not about the music. It was MT and music video. Most of the music back then sucked. It was about those newfangled made for MTV videos.

Re: Israel and Zionism

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:59 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:45 pm
PizzaSnake wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:08 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 3:43 pm
youthathletics wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:56 am Coincidence it comes shortly after a 6 billion infusion into Tehran from the US?
Episode 74 of YA and the Algorithmics: Just Putting Sh*t Out There?

No US tax dollars were sent to Iran, no "infusion into Tehran from the US. Iranian funds frozen in South Korea were transferred to Qatar. That money can only be spent on humanitarian supplies. None of the funds have even been spent yet. This was an attack by a terrorist organization on Israel and, more specifically, on Israeli civilians.

But guys like you and JD Vance and Stephen Miller (nice company, YA, a bootlicking liar and a racist) have to echo out some false points. Any chance you could get a hold of yourself one of these days?
Honest question, do you like that song?
I did!

Re: Israel and Zionism

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:08 pm
by cradleandshoot
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:56 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:26 pm
PizzaSnake wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:08 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 3:43 pm
youthathletics wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:56 am Coincidence it comes shortly after a 6 billion infusion into Tehran from the US?
Episode 74 of YA and the Algorithmics: Just Putting Sh*t Out There?

No US tax dollars were sent to Iran, no "infusion into Tehran from the US. Iranian funds frozen in South Korea were transferred to Qatar. That money can only be spent on humanitarian supplies. None of the funds have even been spent yet. This was an attack by a terrorist organization on Israel and, more specifically, on Israeli civilians.

But guys like you and JD Vance and Stephen Miller (nice company, YA, a bootlicking liar and a racist) have to echo out some false points. Any chance you could get a hold of yourself one of these days?
You know diddly jack chit about how any of this attack was financed or planned. When I hear Sleepy Joe Biden and his crew say not a penny of that 6 billion will be used to support terrorism... just like not a single foot of border wall will be built during his administration. :roll: :roll: :roll: The one thing that is crystal clear to me... you effing Democrats and Republicans are all liars. You are impressive at the lengths you all will go to justify and defend your parties lies.

Democrats + Republicans = 💩💩💩💩
Within the untamed garden of this word salad, you’re basically making my point. No one has any idea what caused or financed this painfully stupid operation. But the current disposition of those funds negates any notion of a straight line between (Shia) Tehran and (Sunni) Hamas. Send your admonitory invective to Youth Algorithm, who work day and night to track everything back to “Obama’s Desk.”
In the middle of my world salad you missed a very significant point. This operation was well organized, well planned well executed and basically a suicide operation. So what nation do you think has the resources to fund such an operation??? I'm hoping I'm wrong but you don't think to be able to understand where this is heading. It is now game on between Israel and Iran. If that doesn't scare the chit out of you it should. You think Bebe won't make someone pay for this attack? One thing that is clear when it comes to Israel and how serious they take defending their nation. They don't play this game without the holding someone accountable. If I'm wrong please share with me your alternative solution.