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Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:16 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:12 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:06 pm
youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:48 pm
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:19 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:49 am
Who is "they"?
Pedophiles?
That is the real question here that YA never answered. Who is "they" to him? It's certainly not just some
random dude in the video. YA has posted multiple times about LGBTQ people and pedophiles (ignoring other groups and pedophiles). So is his question actually "Is this what the LGBTQ+ ultimately want?"
That's the goal of that media movement to smear the trans and LGBT community, to "just ask questions." Just plant the seeds and get people talking. Any publicity is good. And in addition they imply or flat out accuse this entire group of being pedophiles.
In reality, the answer to YA's question is a simple
no. It's not what "they ultimately want." Asked and answered. If he wanted to get into the weeds on age of consent of teenagers with their peers he would have lead with a very different link.
It's a hit job, plain and simple. And fits the thread's title.
I thought it was quite obvious. To even ask the question implies the basic understanding of who benefits from this type of logic. And your simplistic approach is laughable. Why?, because there is an entire arm of the DoJ AND the FBI, that deals with sex offenders and pedophilia.
Hit job by whom? Minimizing what the guy talks about in the clip, almost sounds like you agree with him.
I repeat: who is "they" ?
I watched the clip, and responded, I think thoughtfully, to its content. Not just this question...
But what's your answer to my question?
Good Lord, Pedophiles. Was it not Obvious.
You read Under The Banner of Heaven yet?
Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:18 pm
by youthathletics
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:16 pm
You read Under The Banner of Heaven yet?
No, why should I.
Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:19 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:18 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:16 pm
You read Under The Banner of Heaven yet?
No, why should I.
You seem to be concerned with pedophiles.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/netflixs- ... ts-horrors
Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:21 pm
by MDlaxfan76
youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:12 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:06 pm
youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:48 pm
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:19 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:49 am
Who is "they"?
Pedophiles?
That is the real question here that YA never answered. Who is "they" to him? It's certainly not just some
random dude in the video. YA has posted multiple times about LGBTQ people and pedophiles (ignoring other groups and pedophiles). So is his question actually "Is this what the LGBTQ+ ultimately want?"
That's the goal of that media movement to smear the trans and LGBT community, to "just ask questions." Just plant the seeds and get people talking. Any publicity is good. And in addition they imply or flat out accuse this entire group of being pedophiles.
In reality, the answer to YA's question is a simple
no. It's not what "they ultimately want." Asked and answered. If he wanted to get into the weeds on age of consent of teenagers with their peers he would have lead with a very different link.
It's a hit job, plain and simple. And fits the thread's title.
I thought it was quite obvious. To even ask the question implies the basic understanding of who benefits from this type of logic. And your simplistic approach is laughable. Why?, because there is an entire arm of the DoJ AND the FBI, that deals with sex offenders and pedophilia.
Hit job by whom? Minimizing what the guy talks about in the clip, almost sounds like you agree with him.
I repeat: who is "they" ?
I watched the clip, and responded, I think thoughtfully, to its content. Not just this question...
But what's your answer to my question?
Good Lord, Pedophiles. Was it not Obvious.
It's why I asked...not actually "obvious".
But it was indeed my presumption.
And what is it that "
they ultimately want"?
Do you mean that pedophiles want there to be plausibility that a child actually was able to give "consent", thus no harm no foul?
That's not what this guy was actually saying, though it's entirely possible that is indeed
his "want"...but what he said went to the mental health of the adult who would be made to feel the tragedy and abuse (my words) all over again...the sense of "consent", as an adult, which may be psychological armor should not be forced to this recognition just to give us satisfaction that the abused recognizes the trauma as abuse.
I quite disagree with him on this, as I explained earlier, but that's as far as he actually went in the clip IMO.
Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:22 pm
by a fan
youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:15 pm
a fan wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:11 pm
youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:48 pm
I thought it was quite obvious. To even ask the question implies the basic understanding of who benefits from this type of logic
Is the answer Pedophiles? Because that's what you appear to be saying.
But my question is: why did you put this in the "Hate Directed at the LGBTQ" thread?
Because I did not want to start a Pedophile thread and there are plenty of posts in this thread, and others, about children.
Okay....well come on then....surely you understand how a misunderstanding started? Be clearer next time, my man!
Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:28 pm
by MDlaxfan76
youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:15 pm
a fan wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:11 pm
youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:48 pm
I thought it was quite obvious. To even ask the question implies the basic understanding of who benefits from this type of logic
Is the answer Pedophiles? Because that's what you appear to be saying.
But my question is: why did you put this in the "Hate Directed at the LGBTQ" thread?
Because I did not want to start a Pedophile thread and there are plenty of posts in this thread, and others, about children.
Just guessing, but I think TLD's point re "Banner of Heaven" might be that you may have as understandably put this in the Religion in America thread as this one.
Huge amount of pedophilia been perpetrated by those with religious authority. Right?
Pedophilia is NOT, however, more associated with LGBTQ+ relative to "heterosexual" or "cisgender".
Mostly about power. Like rape, mostly about power.
Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:36 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:28 pm
youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:15 pm
a fan wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:11 pm
youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:48 pm
I thought it was quite obvious. To even ask the question implies the basic understanding of who benefits from this type of logic
Is the answer Pedophiles? Because that's what you appear to be saying.
But my question is: why did you put this in the "Hate Directed at the LGBTQ" thread?
Because I did not want to start a Pedophile thread and there are plenty of posts in this thread, and others, about children.
Just guessing, but I think TLD's point re "Banner of Heaven" might be that you may have as understandably put this in the Religion in America thread as this one.
Huge amount of pedophilia been perpetrated by those with religious authority. Right?
Pedophilia is NOT, however, more associated with LGBTQ+ relative to "heterosexual" or "cisgender".
Mostly about power. Like rape, mostly about power.
Yes. I believe a coach is just as likely to be a pedophile as a homosexual. Not sure what being a homosexual has to do with pedophilia. My 7th grade basketball coach turned out to be a pedophile.
If YA is concerned with pedophiles, he should look beyond homosexuals and lesbians. “Straight” guys rape little girls every day.
Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:55 pm
by Jumbo
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:36 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:28 pm
youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:15 pm
a fan wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:11 pm
youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:48 pm
I thought it was quite obvious. To even ask the question implies the basic understanding of who benefits from this type of logic
Is the answer Pedophiles? Because that's what you appear to be saying.
But my question is: why did you put this in the "Hate Directed at the LGBTQ" thread?
Because I did not want to start a Pedophile thread and there are plenty of posts in this thread, and others, about children.
Just guessing, but I think TLD's point re "Banner of Heaven" might be that you may have as understandably put this in the Religion in America thread as this one.
Huge amount of pedophilia been perpetrated by those with religious authority. Right?
Pedophilia is NOT, however, more associated with LGBTQ+ relative to "heterosexual" or "cisgender".
Mostly about power. Like rape, mostly about power.
Yes. I believe a coach is just as likely to be a pedophile as a homosexual. Not sure what being a homosexual has to do with pedophilia. My 7th grade basketball coach turned out to be a pedophile.
If YA is concerned with pedophiles, he should look beyond homosexuals and lesbians. “Straight” guys rape little girls every day.
I don’t know the stats on this. But most stories I hear about pedophilia is men molesting little boys. Cub scouts, ulter boys, coaches etc. yes , it happens to little girls also. But seems the majority of the time it is little boys molested by men.
And for those that think teachers should have authority to talk to kids about gender, and keep conversations private from parents. Do you also feel teachers should be talking kids out of being gay, or trans, and not telling the parents ? Or should parents only be involved when a straight teacher is trying to convince a boy that he is a boy?
Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:06 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
Jumbo wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:55 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:36 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:28 pm
youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:15 pm
a fan wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:11 pm
youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:48 pm
I thought it was quite obvious. To even ask the question implies the basic understanding of who benefits from this type of logic
Is the answer Pedophiles? Because that's what you appear to be saying.
But my question is: why did you put this in the "Hate Directed at the LGBTQ" thread?
Because I did not want to start a Pedophile thread and there are plenty of posts in this thread, and others, about children.
Just guessing, but I think TLD's point re "Banner of Heaven" might be that you may have as understandably put this in the Religion in America thread as this one.
Huge amount of pedophilia been perpetrated by those with religious authority. Right?
Pedophilia is NOT, however, more associated with LGBTQ+ relative to "heterosexual" or "cisgender".
Mostly about power. Like rape, mostly about power.
Yes. I believe a coach is just as likely to be a pedophile as a homosexual. Not sure what being a homosexual has to do with pedophilia. My 7th grade basketball coach turned out to be a pedophile.
If YA is concerned with pedophiles, he should look beyond homosexuals and lesbians. “Straight” guys rape little girls every day.
I don’t know the stats on this. But most stories I hear about pedophilia is men molesting little boys. Cub scouts, ulter boys, coaches etc. yes , it happens to little girls also. But seems the majority of the time it is little boys molested by men.
And for those that think teachers should have authority to talk to kids about gender, and keep conversations private from parents. Do you also feel teachers should be talking kids out of being gay, or trans, and not telling the parents ? Or should parents only be involved when a straight teacher is trying to convince a boy that he is a boy?
We should be concerned with all threats to children….maybe you should homeschool yours, Jumbo Shrimp.
Objective: To determine if recognizably homosexual adults are frequently accused of the sexual molestation of children.
Design: Chart review of medical records of children evaluated for sexual abuse.
Setting: Child sexual abuse clinic at a regional children's hospital.
Patients: Patients were 352 children (276 girls and 76 boys) referred to a subspecialty clinic for the evaluation of suspected child sexual abuse. Mean age was 6.1 years (range, 7 months to 17 years).
Data collected: Charts were reviewed to determine the relationships of the children to the alleged offender, the sex of the offender, and whether or not the alleged offender was reported to be gay, lesbian, or bisexual.
Results: Abuse was ruled out in 35 cases. Seventy-four children were allegedly abused by other children and teenagers less than 18 years old. In 9 cases, an offender could not be identified. In the remaining 269 cases, two offenders were identified as being gay or lesbian. In 82% of cases (222/269), the alleged offender was a heterosexual partner of a close relative of the child. Using the data from our study, the 95% confidence limits, of the risk children would identify recognizably homosexual adults as the potential abuser, are from 0% to 3.1%. These limits are within current estimates of the prevalence of homosexuality in the general community.
Conclusions: The children in the group studied were unlikely to have been molested by identifiably gay or lesbian people.
Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:29 pm
by old salt
The speaker in the tweet that generated this entire discussion was identified as a gay rights activist.
That's why it's appropriate for this thread.
Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:52 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
old salt wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:29 pm
The speaker in the tweet that generated this entire discussion was identified as a gay rights activist.
That's why it's appropriate for this thread.
But your comrade brought up pedophilia….was it not obvious?
Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:16 pm
by Jumbo
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:06 pm
Jumbo wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:55 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:36 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:28 pm
youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:15 pm
a fan wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:11 pm
youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:48 pm
I thought it was quite obvious. To even ask the question implies the basic understanding of who benefits from this type of logic
Is the answer Pedophiles? Because that's what you appear to be saying.
But my question is: why did you put this in the "Hate Directed at the LGBTQ" thread?
Because I did not want to start a Pedophile thread and there are plenty of posts in this thread, and others, about children.
Just guessing, but I think TLD's point re "Banner of Heaven" might be that you may have as understandably put this in the Religion in America thread as this one.
Huge amount of pedophilia been perpetrated by those with religious authority. Right?
Pedophilia is NOT, however, more associated with LGBTQ+ relative to "heterosexual" or "cisgender".
Mostly about power. Like rape, mostly about power.
Yes. I believe a coach is just as likely to be a pedophile as a homosexual. Not sure what being a homosexual has to do with pedophilia. My 7th grade basketball coach turned out to be a pedophile.
If YA is concerned with pedophiles, he should look beyond homosexuals and lesbians. “Straight” guys rape little girls every day.
I don’t know the stats on this. But most stories I hear about pedophilia is men molesting little boys. Cub scouts, ulter boys, coaches etc. yes , it happens to little girls also. But seems the majority of the time it is little boys molested by men.
And for those that think teachers should have authority to talk to kids about gender, and keep conversations private from parents. Do you also feel teachers should be talking kids out of being gay, or trans, and not telling the parents ? Or should parents only be involved when a straight teacher is trying to convince a boy that he is a boy?
We should be concerned with all threats to children….maybe you should homeschool yours, Jumbo Shrimp.
Objective: To determine if recognizably homosexual adults are frequently accused of the sexual molestation of children.
Design: Chart review of medical records of children evaluated for sexual abuse.
Setting: Child sexual abuse clinic at a regional children's hospital.
Patients: Patients were 352 children (276 girls and 76 boys) referred to a subspecialty clinic for the evaluation of suspected child sexual abuse. Mean age was 6.1 years (range, 7 months to 17 years).
Data collected: Charts were reviewed to determine the relationships of the children to the alleged offender, the sex of the offender, and whether or not the alleged offender was reported to be gay, lesbian, or bisexual.
Results: Abuse was ruled out in 35 cases. Seventy-four children were allegedly abused by other children and teenagers less than 18 years old. In 9 cases, an offender could not be identified. In the remaining 269 cases, two offenders were identified as being gay or lesbian. In 82% of cases (222/269), the alleged offender was a heterosexual partner of a close relative of the child. Using the data from our study, the 95% confidence limits, of the risk children would identify recognizably homosexual adults as the potential abuser, are from 0% to 3.1%. These limits are within current estimates of the prevalence of homosexuality in the general community.
Conclusions: The children in the group studied were unlikely to have been molested by identifiably gay or lesbian people.
Hey typical lax gal, I wonder if boys are less likely to come forward. And yes, I will take your advice and keep my children away from you. Thanks for the advice
Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:27 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
Jumbo wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:16 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:06 pm
Jumbo wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:55 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:36 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:28 pm
youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:15 pm
a fan wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:11 pm
youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:48 pm
I thought it was quite obvious. To even ask the question implies the basic understanding of who benefits from this type of logic
Is the answer Pedophiles? Because that's what you appear to be saying.
But my question is: why did you put this in the "Hate Directed at the LGBTQ" thread?
Because I did not want to start a Pedophile thread and there are plenty of posts in this thread, and others, about children.
Just guessing, but I think TLD's point re "Banner of Heaven" might be that you may have as understandably put this in the Religion in America thread as this one.
Huge amount of pedophilia been perpetrated by those with religious authority. Right?
Pedophilia is NOT, however, more associated with LGBTQ+ relative to "heterosexual" or "cisgender".
Mostly about power. Like rape, mostly about power.
Yes. I believe a coach is just as likely to be a pedophile as a homosexual. Not sure what being a homosexual has to do with pedophilia. My 7th grade basketball coach turned out to be a pedophile.
If YA is concerned with pedophiles, he should look beyond homosexuals and lesbians. “Straight” guys rape little girls every day.
I don’t know the stats on this. But most stories I hear about pedophilia is men molesting little boys. Cub scouts, ulter boys, coaches etc. yes , it happens to little girls also. But seems the majority of the time it is little boys molested by men.
And for those that think teachers should have authority to talk to kids about gender, and keep conversations private from parents. Do you also feel teachers should be talking kids out of being gay, or trans, and not telling the parents ? Or should parents only be involved when a straight teacher is trying to convince a boy that he is a boy?
We should be concerned with all threats to children….maybe you should homeschool yours, Jumbo Shrimp.
Objective: To determine if recognizably homosexual adults are frequently accused of the sexual molestation of children.
Design: Chart review of medical records of children evaluated for sexual abuse.
Setting: Child sexual abuse clinic at a regional children's hospital.
Patients: Patients were 352 children (276 girls and 76 boys) referred to a subspecialty clinic for the evaluation of suspected child sexual abuse. Mean age was 6.1 years (range, 7 months to 17 years).
Data collected: Charts were reviewed to determine the relationships of the children to the alleged offender, the sex of the offender, and whether or not the alleged offender was reported to be gay, lesbian, or bisexual.
Results: Abuse was ruled out in 35 cases. Seventy-four children were allegedly abused by other children and teenagers less than 18 years old. In 9 cases, an offender could not be identified. In the remaining 269 cases, two offenders were identified as being gay or lesbian. In 82% of cases (222/269), the alleged offender was a heterosexual partner of a close relative of the child. Using the data from our study, the 95% confidence limits, of the risk children would identify recognizably homosexual adults as the potential abuser, are from 0% to 3.1%. These limits are within current estimates of the prevalence of homosexuality in the general community.
Conclusions: The children in the group studied were unlikely to have been molested by identifiably gay or lesbian people.
Hey typical lax gal, I wonder if boys are less likely to come forward. And yes, I will take your advice and keep my children away from you. Thanks for the advice
I “wonder” too. Enjoy the lax season Jumbo Shrimp.
Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:36 pm
by old salt
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:52 pm
old salt wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:29 pm
The speaker in the tweet that generated this entire discussion was identified as a gay rights activist.
That's why it's appropriate for this thread.
But your comrade brought up pedophilia….was it not obvious?
A "young man" & a 9 year old boy... was it not obvious ?
Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:38 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
old salt wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:36 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:52 pm
old salt wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:29 pm
The speaker in the tweet that generated this entire discussion was identified as a gay rights activist.
That's why it's appropriate for this thread.
But your comrade brought up pedophilia….was it not obvious?
A "young man" & a 9 year old boy... was it not obvious ?
I guess not. What did you think of Under The Banner of Heaven? I finally started reading it recently.
Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:48 pm
by old salt
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:38 pm
old salt wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:36 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:52 pm
old salt wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:29 pm
The speaker in the tweet that generated this entire discussion was identified as a gay rights activist.
That's why it's appropriate for this thread.
But your comrade brought up pedophilia….was it not obvious?
A "young man" & a 9 year old boy... was it not obvious ?
I guess not. What did you think of Under The Banner of Heaven? I finally started reading it recently.
I've yet to read or view it. I look forward to your review.
Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:50 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
old salt wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:48 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:38 pm
old salt wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:36 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:52 pm
old salt wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:29 pm
The speaker in the tweet that generated this entire discussion was identified as a gay rights activist.
That's why it's appropriate for this thread.
But your comrade brought up pedophilia….was it not obvious?
A "young man" & a 9 year old boy... was it not obvious ?
I guess not. What did you think of Under The Banner of Heaven? I finally started reading it recently.
I've yet to read or view it. I look forward to your review.
Why not? If you read Into Thin Air, Into The Wild or Where Men Win Glory, you would enjoy this. Great writing. Very detailed.
Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:53 pm
by old salt
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:50 pm
old salt wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:48 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:38 pm
old salt wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:36 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:52 pm
old salt wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:29 pm
The speaker in the tweet that generated this entire discussion was identified as a gay rights activist.
That's why it's appropriate for this thread.
But your comrade brought up pedophilia….was it not obvious?
A "young man" & a 9 year old boy... was it not obvious ?
I guess not. What did you think of Under The Banner of Heaven? I finally started reading it recently.
I've yet to read or view it. I look forward to your review.
Why not? If you read Into Thin Air, Into The Wild or Where Men Win Glory, you would enjoy this. Great writing. Very detailed.
For some reason, fiction or crime drama fails to hold my attention during times of war. ...it started on 9-11-01.
Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:04 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
old salt wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:53 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:50 pm
old salt wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:48 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:38 pm
old salt wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:36 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:52 pm
old salt wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:29 pm
The speaker in the tweet that generated this entire discussion was identified as a gay rights activist.
That's why it's appropriate for this thread.
But your comrade brought up pedophilia….was it not obvious?
A "young man" & a 9 year old boy... was it not obvious ?
I guess not. What did you think of Under The Banner of Heaven? I finally started reading it recently.
I've yet to read or view it. I look forward to your review.
Why not? If you read Into Thin Air, Into The Wild or Where Men Win Glory, you would enjoy this. Great writing. Very detailed.
For some reason, fiction or crime drama fails to hold my attention during times of war. ...it started on 9-11-01.
They are all non fiction…..I am surprised 4-19-95 wasn’t the date.
Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:17 pm
by MDlaxfan76
Jumbo wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:55 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:36 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:28 pm
youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:15 pm
a fan wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:11 pm
youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:48 pm
I thought it was quite obvious. To even ask the question implies the basic understanding of who benefits from this type of logic
Is the answer Pedophiles? Because that's what you appear to be saying.
But my question is: why did you put this in the "Hate Directed at the LGBTQ" thread?
Because I did not want to start a Pedophile thread and there are plenty of posts in this thread, and others, about children.
Just guessing, but I think TLD's point re "Banner of Heaven" might be that you may have as understandably put this in the Religion in America thread as this one.
Huge amount of pedophilia been perpetrated by those with religious authority. Right?
Pedophilia is NOT, however, more associated with LGBTQ+ relative to "heterosexual" or "cisgender".
Mostly about power. Like rape, mostly about power.
Yes. I believe a coach is just as likely to be a pedophile as a homosexual. Not sure what being a homosexual has to do with pedophilia. My 7th grade basketball coach turned out to be a pedophile.
If YA is concerned with pedophiles, he should look beyond homosexuals and lesbians. “Straight” guys rape little girls every day.
I don’t know the stats on this. But most
stories I hear about pedophilia is men molesting little boys. Cub scouts, ulter boys, coaches etc. yes , it happens to little girls also. But seems the majority of the time it is little boys molested by men.
And for those that think teachers should have authority to talk to kids about gender, and keep conversations private from parents. Do you also feel teachers should be talking kids out of being gay, or trans, and not telling the parents ? Or should parents only be involved when a straight teacher is trying to convince a boy that he is a boy?
Yup, what I highlighted is probably correct.
But the reality is that it's NOT actually more likely. Fact.
And no, boys and men are NOT more reluctant to address this issue later in life.
As to the question, perhaps directed to me, it's indeed a highly problematic matter...but where I come down on it is that teachers shouldn't be trying to persuade kids to be anything in specific, they should simply respect the child's (or anyone else's) wishes to be addressed by whatever pronoun, gender they wish. Teachers should immediately bump the matter higher than themselves, however, as direct engagement with the student on these issues should be left to those trained and equipped to do so...but respect the kid's wishes in the meantime. As to the school communicating with the parent, I'm putting child safety first, so if a kid doesn't want the parents, or one parent, not to know, respect that as a signal...
As to my "rights" as a parent, I exercise my opportunity to earn the respect of my children as I raise them...if they don't trust me with such issues, that's on me for having failed to earn that trust.