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stupefied wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 1:53 pm Not going to applaud Maryland or Tillman for going into the portal once again to grab talent that displaces his own. Does he lack patience developing all those 4-5 star classes that Maryland annually gathers.. God forbid he tries to win a chip in 2022 without developed players from other teams .

I don't understand this notion, Top D1 lax is a business and the goal is winning so if you can bring in guys who you think will help you win and help towards winning a NC why wouldn't you do it...

jerseyjames wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 5:34 pm

stupefied wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 1:53 pm Not going to applaud Maryland or Tillman for going into the portal once again to grab talent that displaces his own. Does he lack patience developing all those 4-5 star classes that Maryland annually gathers.. God forbid he tries to win a chip in 2022 without developed players from other teams .

I don't understand this notion, Top D1 lax is a business and the goal is winning so if you can bring in guys who you think will help you win and help towards winning a NC why wouldn't you do it...

he alludes to it in his post. as many have. do you play one year at a time and risk the next several or more? and at some point, do you risk losing the "family" tag?
maryland has been at it for a while (and transfers have been part of college lax for probably more than 50 years), and on the surface the terps haven't lost either of those angles yet.

some folks get a little bent on teams doing it, and others are pretty defensive about it. touchy subject in some parts.

Transfers @ 06-29-2021

Air Force - Sean Curcio (M)*** -> Drexel
Albany - Kyle Casey (A)**-> Pace (D2), Matt Eccles (M)**, Tehoka Nanticoke (A)
Binghamton - Tom Galgano (D)**->Adelphi,Teddy Dolan (G)*
Bellarmine - Chase Fairbanks (D)-> Monmouth
Boston U. - Michael Doxie (M)**
Bryant: Mason Balch (A), Ryan Auger (M), Mitch Lachman (A)
Brown - George Pike (M)*, Riley Stewart (M)**, Finn Gibbons (A)**
Bucknell - Matt Fedorjaka (M)** - > Notre Dame, Tommy Sopko (A)**, Sumner Brumbaugh (A)**, Bryant Boswell (D)**
Canisius - Otto Bergmann (G)
Cleveland State - Kevin Sobey (G)
Colgate - Mike Hawkins, (A/M)** -> Notre Dame, James Caddigan (A)**, Thor Adamec (LSM)*, Will Sidari (D)*, Ryan Decker (M)**,
Cornell - Jonathan Donville (M)** -> Maryland, Harrison Bardwell (SSDM)**, Matt Licciardi (M)**
Dartmouth - Peter Rizzotti (LSM), Danny Hincks (G)*, Kellen Paradine (D)**, Westy McLaughlin (A)
Delaware - Peter St. Geme (M)
Detroit Mercy: Logan Shamblin (G)**
Drexel - Kyle DeCrispino (A) -> Mount St. Mary's, Aidan Coll (A)**, Brennan Greenwald (LSM)*
Duke - JP Basile (A)**-> Villanova
Georgetown - Gavin Lindsay (SSDM)**
Hartford - 10+ Players, Ian Groom (FO) ->Hampton, Zak Lanoue (M)->Bryant
Harvard - Austin Madronic (A)*
Hobart: Drew Blanchard (FO)**, Jason Knox (A)
Hofstra - Ben Stewart (M) -> Wagner
Jacksonville - Colby Rogers (FO)
Johns Hopkins - Owen Murphy (A)-> Maryland , Brett Baskin (A/M)** -> Villanova, Luke Shilling (A)**, John Cohen (A), John Schreiber (M), Kaden Brothers (D), Jacob Brunner (M), Evan Zinn** (M, 2yrs)
Lehigh - Matt Douglas (LSM/D)** —> Notre Dame
Marist - Jake Weinman (A)**, Jack Zukowski (SSDM)** -> Duke
Marquette - John Hulsman (G)**-> Florida Tech (DII)
Maryland- Connor Whalen (LSM), Dean Draughan (M), Kyle Berkeley (M)**-> Towson, Conor Calderone (FO), Nick DeMaio (A), Chris Brandau (G)
Mercer - Collin Stewart (M)
Michigan - Kevin Mack (A)**, Alex Buckanavage (M)**, Joey Corbett (M)
Monmouth: Chris Hervada (D)** -> Villanova[/color], Dom Pizzulli (A)**
Mount St. Mary's - Luke Frankeny (A)**->Richmond, Bryan McIntosh (D)** -> Hofstra, Sam Stephen (FO)**-> Rutgers
Navy - Tyler Cordes (M) *** -> Syracuse
North Carolina - Will Bowen (D)** -> Georgetown, Caton Johnson (G)-> Ohio State, Luke Millican (G)**, Alex Trippi **(A), Parker Alexander (SSDM)**, Brian Cameron (A) -> Rutgers
Notre Dame: Michael Drake (A/M)**, Matt Schmidt (G)**; Connor Morin (A)**, Jimmy Littlefield (D)**
Ohio State - Gerard Kane (A) -> Hofstra, Drew Elder (FO) -> Tampa (DII), Grant Mitchell (M), Michael Clibanoff (G), Matthew Clibanoff (A), Henry Watson (D), Logan Santos (M)
Penn - Mitch Bartolo (A/M)**-> Rutgers, Sean Lulley (A)**->Duke
Penn State - Cole Willard (M)** -> Tampa (DII), John Nostrant (M)**
Providence - Toby Burgdorf (G)** -> Rutgers, Emmett Jennings (D)**
Richmond - Jax Popovich (FO) -> Boston U., Jason Reynolds (D)** —> Notre Dame, Tate Gallagher (M)**
Robert Morris - Michael Autry (FO)**
Rutgers - Max Beauchamp (M)
Sacred Heart: Logan Liljeberg (A)**—>UMass
St. Bonaventure - Brett Dobson (G)**
St. John’s - Dylan Willis (M) -> (Withdrawn on 5/4)
Stony Brook - Daniel Cassidy (D)**->Wagner, Layton Harrell (A), Tommy Dolciotto (M), Zach Thompson (A), Steven Pinto (M), Kyle Hebert (G)**, Devin O’Leary **(LSM/D)
Syracuse - Zach Lee (D), JT Stirpe (A), Nathan McPeak (G)**, Luke Talago (FO)
Towson - Casey Wasserman (M)->Utah
UMass - Luke Blanc (A)->Marquette , Tyler Strub (D)
UMBC - Ryan Young (D)
Villanova - Keegan Khan (A)** -> Maryland, Owen PrybylskI (D)** -> Maryland, Dan Fisher (FO)**, Stevie Peters (M)**, Brendan Haggerty (G)**
Virginia - Will Rock (LSM)**, Regan Quinn (M)**, Russell Maher (A/M), Gavin Tygh (FO), Jackson Appelt (A)**, Michael Harmeyer (A)
VMI - Jon Fant (A)** -> St. Joe’s
Vermont: Connor Boyle (M)
Yale - Nick Caccamo (D) -> Syracuse

Division 2/3
Amherst (D3) - Gib Versfeld (G)** -> Johns Hopkins, Ethan Kazmierski (M)**
Franklin & Marshall (D3) - Luke Keating (A)**->Villanova
Gettysburg (D3) - Andrew Horn (D)**
Lynchburg (D3) - Tyler Gallagher (D)** ->Ohio State
Mercyhurst (D2) - Caleb Kueber (A)**, John Pipher (A)**, Nathan Grenon (M)**
Salisbury (D3) - Brad Apgar (D)**-> Rutgers, Griffin Moroney (A)**
Stevens Tech (D3) - Ryan Gebhardt (A/M)**
SUNY-Maritime (D3) - Matt DeMeo (M)! -> Stony Brook
Tufts (D3) - Max Waldbaum (A)** -> Jacksonville
Ursinus (D3) - Hakan Atillasoy (A)**
Wesleyan (D3) - Ronan Jacoby (A)** -> Rutgers
York (D3) - Brendan O'Sullivan (A)**

* in the portal for the future 2023
** grad transfer
*** transfer from Military Prep
! For future 2022

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Transfers @ 06-29-2021

Air Force - Sean Curcio (M)*** -> Drexel
Albany - Kyle Casey (A)**-> Pace (D2), Matt Eccles (M)**, Tehoka Nanticoke (A)
Binghamton - Tom Galgano (D)**->Adelphi,Teddy Dolan (G)*
Bellarmine - Chase Fairbanks (D)-> Monmouth
Boston U. - Michael Doxie (M)**
Bryant: Mason Balch (A), Ryan Auger (M), Mitch Lachman (A)
Brown - George Pike (M)*, Riley Stewart (M)**, Finn Gibbons (A)**
Bucknell - Matt Fedorjaka (M)** - > Notre Dame, Tommy Sopko (A)**, Sumner Brumbaugh (A)**, Bryant Boswell (D)**
Canisius - Otto Bergmann (G)
Cleveland State - Kevin Sobey (G)
Colgate - Mike Hawkins, (A/M)** -> Notre Dame, James Caddigan (A)**, Thor Adamec (LSM)*, Will Sidari (D)*, Ryan Decker (M)**,
Cornell - Jonathan Donville (M)** -> Maryland, Harrison Bardwell (SSDM)**, Matt Licciardi (M)**
Dartmouth - Peter Rizzotti (LSM), Danny Hincks (G)*, Kellen Paradine (D)**, Westy McLaughlin (A)
Delaware - Peter St. Geme (M)
Detroit Mercy: Logan Shamblin (G)**
Drexel - Kyle DeCrispino (A) -> Mount St. Mary's, Aidan Coll (A)**, Brennan Greenwald (LSM)*
Duke - JP Basile (A)**-> Villanova
Georgetown - Gavin Lindsay (SSDM)**
Hartford - 10+ Players, Ian Groom (FO) ->Hampton, Zak Lanoue (M)->Bryant
Harvard - Austin Madronic (A)*
Hobart: Drew Blanchard (FO)**, Jason Knox (A)
Hofstra - Ben Stewart (M) -> Wagner
Holy Cross - Peter Dobbs (G)*
Jacksonville - Colby Rogers (FO)
Johns Hopkins - Owen Murphy (A)-> Maryland , Brett Baskin (A/M)** -> Villanova, Luke Shilling (A)**, John Cohen (A), John Schreiber (M), Kaden Brothers (D), Jacob Brunner (M), Evan Zinn** (M, 2yrs)
Lafayette - Noah Mendoza (D)
Lehigh - Matt Douglas (LSM/D)** —> Notre Dame
Marist - Jake Weinman (A)**, Jack Zukowski (SSDM)** -> Duke
Marquette - John Hulsman (G)**-> Florida Tech (DII)
Maryland- Connor Whalen (LSM), Dean Draughan (M), Kyle Berkeley (M)**-> Towson, Conor Calderone (FO), Nick DeMaio (A), Chris Brandau (G)
Mercer - Collin Stewart (M)
Michigan - Kevin Mack (A)**, Alex Buckanavage (M)**, Joey Corbett (M)
Monmouth: Chris Hervada (D)** -> Villanova, Dom Pizzulli (A)**
Mount St. Mary's - Luke Frankeny (A)**->Richmond, Bryan McIntosh (D)** -> Hofstra, Sam Stephen (FO)**-> Rutgers
Navy - Tyler Cordes (M) *** -> Syracuse
North Carolina - Will Bowen (D)** -> Georgetown, Caton Johnson (G)-> Ohio State, Luke Millican (G)**, Alex Trippi **(A), Parker Alexander (SSDM)**, Brian Cameron (A) -> Rutgers, Jack Pezzulla (G)**
Notre Dame: Michael Drake (A/M)**, Matt Schmidt (G)**; Connor Morin (A)**, Jimmy Littlefield (D)**
Ohio State - Gerard Kane (A) -> Hofstra, Drew Elder (FO) -> Tampa (DII), Grant Mitchell (M), Michael Clibanoff (G), Matthew Clibanoff (A), Henry Watson (D), Logan Santos (M), Drew Scott (M)
Penn - Mitch Bartolo (A/M)**-> Rutgers, Sean Lulley (A)**->Duke
Penn State - Cole Willard (M)** -> Tampa (DII), John Nostrant (M)**
Providence - Toby Burgdorf (G)** -> Rutgers, Emmett Jennings (D)**
Richmond - Jax Popovich (FO) -> Boston U., Jason Reynolds (D)** —> Notre Dame, Tate Gallagher (M)**
Robert Morris - Michael Autry (FO)**
Rutgers - Max Beauchamp (M)
Sacred Heart: Logan Liljeberg (A)**—>UMass
St. Bonaventure - Brett Dobson (G)**
St. John’s - Dylan Willis (M) -> (Withdrawn on 5/4)
Stony Brook - Daniel Cassidy (D)**->Wagner, Layton Harrell (A), Tommy Dolciotto (M), Zach Thompson (A), Steven Pinto (M), Kyle Hebert (G)**, Devin O’Leary **(LSM/D)
Syracuse - Zach Lee (D), JT Stirpe (A), Nathan McPeak (G)**, Luke Talago (FO)
Towson - Casey Wasserman (M)->Utah, Mo Sillah (LSM)*
UMass - Luke Blanc (A)->Marquette , Tyler Strub (D)
UMBC - Ryan Young (D)
Villanova - Keegan Khan (A)** -> Maryland, Owen PrybylskI (D)** -> Maryland, Dan Fisher (FO)**, Stevie Peters (M)**, Brendan Haggerty (G)**
Virginia - Will Rock (LSM)**, Regan Quinn (M)**, Russell Maher (A/M), Gavin Tygh (FO), Jackson Appelt (A)**, Michael Harmeyer (A)
VMI - Jon Fant (A)** -> St. Joe’s
Vermont: Connor Boyle (M)
Yale - Nick Caccamo (D) -> Syracuse

Division 2/3
Amherst (D3) - Gib Versfeld (G)** -> Johns Hopkins, Ethan Kazmierski (M)**
Franklin & Marshall (D3) - Luke Keating (A)**->Villanova
Gettysburg (D3) - Andrew Horn (D)**
Lynchburg (D3) - Tyler Gallagher (D)** ->Ohio State
Mercyhurst (D2) - Caleb Kueber (A)**, John Pipher (A)**, Nathan Grenon (M)**
Salisbury (D3) - Brad Apgar (D)**-> Rutgers, Griffin Moroney (A)**
Stevens Tech (D3) - Ryan Gebhardt (A/M)**
SUNY-Maritime (D3) - Matt DeMeo (M)! -> Stony Brook
Tufts (D3) - Max Waldbaum (A)** -> Jacksonville
Ursinus (D3) - Hakan Atillasoy (A)**
Wesleyan (D3) - Ronan Jacoby (A)** -> Rutgers
York (D3) - Brendan O'Sullivan (A)**

* in the portal for the future 2023
** grad transfer
*** transfer from Military Prep
! For future 2022

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Daniel Kelly probably should have stuck with his UNC commitment.

Mo Sillah in the portal is interesting. I like his game a lot.

Why wouldn’t Tillman pick up Mo Sillah? The new locker room sleeps 70 comfortably.

Henpecked wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:10 pm Why wouldn’t Tillman pick up Mo Sillah? The new locker room sleeps 70 comfortably.

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 7:08 pm Daniel Kelly probably should have stuck with his UNC commitment.

Mo Sillah in the portal is interesting. I like his game a lot.

Mo Sillah averaged one CT and 2 GBs a game in 2020. Similar stats in 2021. Sounds like a perfect fit for the Blue Jays.

Does anyone know whether Sillah is interested in Hopkins?

DocBarrister

Henpecked wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:10 pm Why wouldn’t Tillman pick up Mo Sillah? The new locker room sleeps 70 comfortably.

75 if you count the sofa beds.

DocBarrister

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:23 pm

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 7:08 pm Daniel Kelly probably should have stuck with his UNC commitment.

Mo Sillah in the portal is interesting. I like his game a lot.

Mo Sillah averaged one CT and 2 GBs a game in 2020. Similar stats in 2021. Sounds like a perfect fit for the Blue Jays.

Does anyone know whether Sillah is interested in Hopkins?

DocBarrister

Based on his HS transcript he’s got no shot at Hopkins. He was barely a qualifier

stupefied wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 1:53 pm Not going to applaud Maryland or Tillman for going into the portal once again to grab talent that displaces his own. Does he lack patience developing all those 4-5 star classes that Maryland annually gathers.. God forbid he tries to win a chip in 2022 without developed players from other teams . Same goes for ND who has a chance and Rutgers who doesn't.

Have heard strange rationale by some that Maryland lost young talented players when they brought in transfers so needed to replace the departed with more transfers or they need transfers to replace departing players who were transfers.

21 UM team was the greatest in 25 years according to some yet lost to 4 loss UVA . Tillman must figure it has to be the greatest in 26 years

It becomes a hamster wheel you can’t get off. Reminds me of serial acquirer businesses who have consistently cloudy earnings due to merger integration noise. Because you never really establish core run rate earnings so once the messy earnings begin to run off you need to do another deal in order to maintain the growth rate.

PulpExposure wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 1:57 pm

Gatsby wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:35 pm
I'm not a Terp fan but before the game, I did see Md as a strong favorite, as I'm sure most people did, considering how they had just blown out Duke impressively and had all-world Bernhardt. Also, I'm very impressed with Tillman and his classiness.

Fair enough. I just know that between me and my friends, we all wished not to play Virginia for a bunch of reasons. One, their offense is lethal. Two their FOGO is ridiculous, giving more possessions to that lethal offense. And three, they have a great goalie. Literally wished to play any other team lol. Tiffany has built an absolute monster there.

Did you watch Lasalla in round 1?

jerseyjames wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 5:34 pm

stupefied wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 1:53 pm Not going to applaud Maryland or Tillman for going into the portal once again to grab talent that displaces his own. Does he lack patience developing all those 4-5 star classes that Maryland annually gathers.. God forbid he tries to win a chip in 2022 without developed players from other teams .

I don't understand this notion, Top D1 lax is a business and the goal is winning so if you can bring in guys who you think will help you win and help towards winning a NC why wouldn't you do it...

Really? How can I invest for that fat ROI?

Oh you mean a money losing business? Then we all
Should definitely put winning over all other considerations at non-profit institutions of higher learning...

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 5:54 pm

jerseyjames wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 5:34 pm

stupefied wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 1:53 pm Not going to applaud Maryland or Tillman for going into the portal once again to grab talent that displaces his own. Does he lack patience developing all those 4-5 star classes that Maryland annually gathers.. God forbid he tries to win a chip in 2022 without developed players from other teams .

I don't understand this notion, Top D1 lax is a business and the goal is winning so if you can bring in guys who you think will help you win and help towards winning a NC why wouldn't you do it...

he alludes to it in his post. as many have. do you play one year at a time and risk the next several or more? and at some point, do you risk losing the "family" tag?
maryland has been at it for a while (and transfers have been part of college lax for probably more than 50 years), and on the surface the terps haven't lost either of those angles yet.

some folks get a little bent on teams doing it, and others are pretty defensive about it. touchy subject in some parts.

And I’d like to see the rational for a short term investment over a long term one for programs that expect to exist into perpetuity.

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 9:22 pm Really? How can I invest for that fat ROI?

Oh you mean a money losing business? Then we all
Should definitely put winning over all other considerations at non-profit institutions of higher learning...

Doesn't Hobart provide a pretty clear case for the ROI of lacrosse (and all of the other sports it sponsors)? Because it's a D3 school, I'm going to guess that its athletic department doesn't have it's budget walled off from the rest of the school. Does the athletic department there fall under the student services division (or comparatively named unit within the school)? How much tuition money does Hobart bring in from lacrosse? How much does it spend on lacrosse? What's the net tuition revenue?

They get creative w their packages it doesn’t make money. A lot of the alums from the 80s and 90s don’t give so that isn’t a path. Football brings in a lot more revenue and spends less even with a roster of 90-95 kids. In fact I’ve heard the school is going to look to bring in more full payers in lacrosse at the expense of talent so there’s your answer for the last 10-20yrs. We won’t be getting many or any Canadians, can Hancock is gone partly because his brother graduated and it was expensive. Part of not keeping Justin Scott was fin aid related.

And I can’t believe you’d equate Hobart and Maryland. You guys had no choice but to join the big ten because Debbie Yow wrecked your finances and we are shrinking our overall enrollment from 2,300-2,400 back to like 2,000 which I’d imagine is a bit less than one undergraduate class at UMD or Rutgers meaning the tuition payers is a insignificant drop in the bucket.

The idea that D1 lacrosse is a business proposition is just specious and laughable. Just another made up statement by a Rutgers fan(atic) to justify whatever they want it to. (Not you but the person who made the original comment I was responding to but it isn’t lost on me that folks from the two Big Ten schools w the worst wrecked finances are selling this story)

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 9:50 pm They get creative w their packages it doesn’t make money. A lot of the alums from the 80s and 90s don’t give so that isn’t a path. Football brings in a lot more revenue and spends less even with a roster of 90-95 kids. In fact I’ve heard the school is going to look to bring in more full payers in lacrosse at the expense of talent so there’s your answer for the last 10-20yrs. We won’t be getting many or any Canadians, can Hancock is gone partly because his brother graduated and it was expensive. Part of not keeping Justin Scott was fin aid related.

And I can’t believe you’d equate Hobart and Maryland. You guys had no choice but to join the big ten because Debbie Yow wrecked your finances and we are shrinking our overall enrollment from 2,300-2,400 back to like 2,000 which I’d imagine is a bit less than one undergraduate class at UMD or Rutgers meaning the tuition payers is a insignificant drop in the bucket.

The idea that D1 lacrosse is a business proposition is just specious and laughable. Just another made up statement by a Rutgers fan(atic) to justify whatever they want it to. (Not you but the person who made the original comment I was responding to but it isn’t lost on me that folks from the two Big Ten schools w the worst wrecked finances are selling this story)

All non-revenue sports are only non-revenue for the athletic department. Moreover, try recruiting any students...forget about athletes...to colleges and universities with no athletic programs. Athletics are part of the social fabric of every university. Even for elite academic students, they benefit socially from sporting events. Even international students coming from countries where sports are completely detached from school, they come to the US and have a blast going to sporting events. Maryland could shutter all non-revenue sports and bring in an equivalent number of students, 6 Saturdays in the fall and 18 basketball games in the winter don't provide a lot cultural cohesion around campus in College Park.

Dom, Petro, Desko all fired over performance in the last 5 years and you're saying its not a business...

I wasn't really equating business to making money, more to the fact that either you can help me win or you can't; this isn't rainbows and sunshine the best kids play and these coaches want to win NC's so if going to the portal for an upgrade is gonna help them do that then the hell with the kids who are in their programs and not up to standards or preforming and if those kids aren't happy with that then hey they can transfer too. These coaches wouldn't be doing their jobs if they aren't looking at every possible way to get better...

Also, IMO we should be celebrating the business-ification of lacrosse, good for the growth of the sport

I understand why the best transfer players choose to transfer to UMD and the other similar schools (UNC, UVa, Duke, UND). And I understand why those schools chase those players. It all makes a tremendous amount of sense. And I don't begrudge any of those players the options that they are afforded. Or the schools for taking advantage of those opportunities. But none of that requires me to like it. And I don't like it. At all. And I don't think it's good for the sport as a whole. But who cares, I guess.