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Re: Racism in America- Week 2 of Riots

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:01 pm
by ggait
After seeing a video of a cold blooded killing in broad daylight, here’s what Peter Brown thought needed to be said. Actual quotes:

“The preliminary autopsy was just released right now, and the results suggest that the deceased died of causes unrelated to the cop's knee.”

“I didn't rush to judgment on Duke or UVA. I won't here as well.”

“Most Democrats…get fairly fried when someone prefers facts, patience, and nuance.”

“It's all woke narrative to get to the end, the end being socialism.”

“The coroner has come out with his results. They don't square with your preferred narrative.”

“You are wrong here. The cop did not torture the guy 'to death'. He died of other causes,”

“I’m defending [the cop’s] legal rights as a human. I’m willing to wait and see what actually caused the guy’s death; this is likely a more nuanced death…”

Peter watches a 9 minute snuff film and his main thought is:

“Hmmm. That is all so ambiguous and unclear. So much nuance and vagueness. While we have to wait and see, it sure looks like a Democratic narrative rather than a murder."

What is wrong with him?

Re: Racism in America- Week 2 of Riots

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:05 pm
by runrussellrun
cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:44 am [
This is idiotic, on all counts.
That is why I am a fan of the ignore function. You don't have to read stupid chit from stupid people if you choose not to. :D
[/quote]

IMHO, the ignore function is lame. Everyone offers something. If not, turn the page.

If someone , as the tag line infers, directly, you will end up HATING someone, does exactly that, hate someone so much the will literally never want to read anything they ever have to offer.......is weird. Unless you actually know the person.

I mean....who needs character development, it's all write hear. Instead of bios.....perhaps a written persona, possible persona, based on posts.

interesting, the people that get labeled as BIAD (BURN IT ALL DOWN ), are the protagonists, the banned. how is putting someone into ignore world NOT burning them down?

it's only the hypocrites, honey, only them

Re: Racism in America- Riots Explode Nationwide with Help From Instigators

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:15 pm
by runrussellrun
a fan wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:52 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:25 am What in the world are you discussing, AFAN? It's pretty evident that the young woman, articulated "HYPOCRITES" often, in the video. Gee, AFAN, why would she do that? BLM only pops it head out when a WHITE (mostly) uniformed thug kills a black. No protests for a long laundry list of other cops killing whites......cops DO mostly smell the world up. Evil...prevail....do nothing attitude. Why do you attempt to complicate a simple issue ? She's pointing out the LACK of protests when any of these victims got killed . Unsolved Homicide victims in DC
What you don't seem to understand is: let's say that these protesters did EXACTLY what this woman is asking, and protested Chicago's violence problem. Letter perfect according to this woman. So they organize, get it together, and march. Let's call this Protest A. Now according to you and this woman, "they're doing it right". geez....get OFF of fecesbook and your binary brainfarts....She's asking a question, why don't they EVER go to the black neighborhoods and march? That's it. sprinkled with lots of doses of BLM only matter when........hypocrites. Nothing about doing it right. Just doing it different ? geez

So in the middle of the march a different woman starts scream at them for totally ignoring the murder of a man up in Minneapolis. And like the previous woman, tells them that "this march is hypocritical because they're not marching because a man was murdered in Minneapolis, and what the F, you guys are protesting wrong". She screams at them for not having a Protest B, which protests the Minneapolis murder.
a different video? if THIS isn't classic net moving...heck, you changed the entire venue wit this one... :D
So now you get to tell me: which of these Protests is the "right way" to protest: Protest A, or Protest B?
Neither.
Take you time, and get back to me. Until then, this woman needs to take some courses in logic before she yells at protest A for "doing it wrong".

classic AFAN.....where in the video under discussion does she yell, "doing it wrong". Take your time and get back to me. Simple timeline will do.

runrussellrun wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:25 am She LOVES the BLM protests....she only wants MORE of them? get it? "Go to NorthEast", she cries out. (actually, SouthEAST is still the danger zone, where Sheila Lucas was gunned down on May 23rd. )
:lol: No she doesn't. If she did, she be marching with them, and organizing them to direct their attention to things that she cares about.

She'd get off her *ss and help. What's she doing instead? Mocking a protest that has gotten millions of Americans to get off their butts and do something about the problem. Meanwhile, she has done nothing. The obvious question to that woman is: what are YOU doing to fix these problems? Someone KEEPS on breaking their "I''ll never use "whataboutism" again. Yet, here it is. The first step, is she did DO something about it. You, me, and millions of others are discussing it. Get it now.

Re: Racism in America- Week 2 of Riots

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:17 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
ggait wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:01 pm After seeing a video of a cold blooded killing in broad daylight, here’s what Peter Brown thought needed to be said. Actual quotes:

“The preliminary autopsy was just released right now, and the results suggest that the deceased died of causes unrelated to the cop's knee.”

“I didn't rush to judgment on Duke or UVA. I won't here as well.”

“Most Democrats…get fairly fried when someone prefers facts, patience, and nuance.”

“It's all woke narrative to get to the end, the end being socialism.”

“The coroner has come out with his results. They don't square with your preferred narrative.”

“You are wrong here. The cop did not torture the guy 'to death'. He died of other causes,”

“I’m defending [the cop’s] legal rights as a human. I’m willing to wait and see what actually caused the guy’s death; this is likely a more nuanced death…”

Peter watches a 9 minute snuff film and his main thought is:

“Hmmm. That is all so ambiguous and unclear. So much nuance and vagueness. While we have to wait and see, it sure looks like a Democratic narrative rather than a murder."

What is wrong with him?
He is Bandito. Bandito has all but disappeared and the vacuum has been filled by Petey except the vulgarities have been dropped. Almost the same cadence.

Re: Racism in America- Week 2 of Riots

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:19 pm
by ggait
Breaking: Chauvin now being charged with 2nd degree murder. Other officers being charged with aiding and abetting.

2nd degree requires prosecutors to prove Chauvin intended to kill Floyd (but without premeditation), while 3rd degree murder only requires that he knew his actions could kill him and was recklessly indifferent.

3rd degree is a slam dunk. But if you think you can prove intent to kill at all, then I think 1st degree actually makes more sense than 2nd. 2nd degree most often is the crime of passion situation. That's really not what you see.

Chauvin calmly and deliberately kept the knee hold in place for several minutes after Floyd stopped moving, stopped breathing, and was found to have no pulse. Seems more like premeditation to me.

Re: Racism in America- Week 2 of Riots

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:28 pm
by runrussellrun
ggait wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:19 pm Breaking: Chauvin now being charged with 2nd degree murder. Other officers being charged with aiding and abetting. YES....

2nd degree requires prosecutors to prove Chauvin intended to kill Floyd (but without premeditation), while 3rd degree murder only requires that he knew his actions could kill him and was recklessly indifferent. Of course it was. What idiot cops don't ankle cuff a violent guy too ? done. what's the perp gonna do now? flop at you like a fish? Of course, this has been discussed before in police history, correct? morons.

3rd degree is a slam dunk. But if you think you can prove intent to kill at all, then I think 1st degree actually makes more sense than 2nd. 2nd degree most often is the crime of passion situation. That's really not what you see. hopefully, Sen. Klobachaur will open up her files and recall all his electornic "naughtyness". TAATS on FULL display in the Twin city

Chauvin calmly and deliberately kept the knee hold in place for several minutes after Floyd stopped moving, stopped breathing, and was found to have no pulse. Seems more like premeditation to me. public stoning, like they did to the Salem witches. Do it in Lafayette Park. Totally serious.

Re: Racism in America- Week 2 of Riots

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:42 pm
by calourie
Peter Brown wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:51 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:57 am Given the actual ambivalence of the BLM folks they should adopt a more correct moniker. The lives of SOME black folks matter more than others. It all depends on who is doing the killing. :roll:

That's so true.
I would submit, and not particularly respectfully that murder rates are substantially higher in low income ghettos than in the rest of society the world over regardless of the racial or ethnic makeup of those ghettos. Poverty is a prime incentive for the social unrest and resentment and lack of personal accountability that often manifests itself in violence in those areas, further exacerbated when there are few avenues for social mobility, and law enforcement is charged with the duty of keeping the disenfranchised "in their place". America has its own unique issue with racism and ethnic resentment given our own particular history with regard to such institutions as slavery, indigenous genocide, immigration and so on, further complicated by our stated intention of supposedly being interested in "a more perfect union". Dismissing these factors will only leave us in our current state of seeing violent social unrest rear its ugly head with its current alarming predictability along with a disproportionate amount of violent crime in our poorer neighborhoods. We can do better than we are doing, but it will take a increasingly greater will on the part or more and more of us to make this happen.

Re: Racism in America- Week 2 of Riots

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:43 pm
by Kismet
ggait wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:19 pm Breaking: Chauvin now being charged with 2nd degree murder. Other officers being charged with aiding and abetting.

2nd degree requires prosecutors to prove Chauvin intended to kill Floyd (but without premeditation), while 3rd degree murder only requires that he knew his actions could kill him and was recklessly indifferent.

3rd degree is a slam dunk. But if you think you can prove intent to kill at all, then I think 1st degree actually makes more sense than 2nd. 2nd degree most often is the crime of passion situation. That's really not what you see.

Chauvin calmly and deliberately kept the knee hold in place for several minutes after Floyd stopped moving, stopped breathing, and was found to have no pulse. Seems more like premeditation to me.
Perhaps, they have one or more of the other cops willing to plea bargain in return for testimony about his state of mind. Think that's very likely IMHO

Re: Racism in America- Riots Explode Nationwide with Help From Instigators

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:43 pm
by a fan
runrussellrun wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:15 pm geez....get OFF of fecesbook and your binary brainfarts....She's asking a question, why don't they EVER go to the black neighborhoods and march? That's it
I'll try one last time, and type slow.

Because that's not what Black Lives Matter is about.

Why the F is that so hard to understand? I'm running out metaphors knock sense into you to make you understand that you don't to tell protesters what they want to protest. They are protesting a very specific thing: institutionalize police violence and profiling from American police. That's it.

So nope, you're 100% right. BLM isn't protesting about things like racism in banking and housing policy. And they're not lifting a finger to fight world hunger. And they're also not working on a cure for cancer.

But for whatever reason, you have managed to convince yourselves that they're hypocrites for not doing any of those things.
runrussellrun wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:25 am Someone KEEPS on breaking their "I''ll never use "whataboutism" again. Yet, here it is.
How is calling out this woman's BS "Whataboutism"? She doesn't get to call out protesters for not marching in a different neighborhood. That's where my "doing it wrong" came from....it wasn't a direct quote. I was making fun of this half wit logic of hers. She's mad that BLM isn't protesting what SHE thinks they should be protesting.
runrussellrun wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:25 am
The first step, is she did DO something about it. You, me, and millions of others are discussing it. Get it now.
Nope. She needs to get on a plane, and fix the violence in Chicago, which is what she was griping about. She----and you----just got done criticizing BLM for not protesting in the right places.

Here's the answer to both you and this woman: if you think BLM is doing it wrong, quit complaining and start your own protest in Chicago.

Neither of you are going to do anything about violence in Chicago, of course. And neither of you are going to protest there. You're just going to throw stones at others, and pretend like you're allowed to look down your noses at these protesters.

Re: Racism in America- Week 2 of Riots

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:55 pm
by Peter Brown
kramerica.inc wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:55 pm David Dorn - Much less coverage. Because not all BLM to the BLM movement/CNN. Same reason why the 600+ deaths last year in Chicago and Baltimore are not an issue either. It doesn't match the desired messaging.


Imagine how easy it is for national democrats and media to avoid David Dorn's name when no Fanlax Democrats will do so.

The bottom line (and fully causal evidence) is in Democratic cities in Democratic states, the poverty, educational, family, and homicide rates of millions of African-Americans is third-world abysmal. Parts of Baltimore are worse than any slum in Mogadishu, and that has been the case for decades, with a black POTUS for 8 years no less. Chicago and East St. Louis have crime rates that make Sicilian gangsters blush. Hartford CT is unsafe for any human.

You'd think such an 'educated' crowd as the one here might pause and reflect why this is the case, but they'd rather bleat on about the one case that makes up their narrative that America sucks, racism is systemic, and cops are corrupt.

Interesting.

Re: Racism in America- Riots Explode Nationwide with Help From Instigators

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:03 pm
by Nigel
Brooklyn wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:19 am Kentucky man killed by law enforcement during George Floyd protest had provided police officers with free meals


https://www.courier-journal.com/story/n ... 308229002/


Latest info may justify law enforcement actions...

Re: Racism in America- Riots Explode Nationwide with Help From Instigators

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:07 pm
by runrussellrun
a fan wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:43 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:15 pm geez....get OFF of fecesbook and your binary brainfarts....She's asking a question, why don't they EVER go to the black neighborhoods and march? That's it
I'll try one last time, and type slow.

Because that's not what Black Lives Matter is about.

Why the F is that so hard to understand? I'm running out metaphors knock sense into you to make you understand that you don't to tell protesters what they want to protest. They are protesting a very specific thing: institutionalize police violence and profiling from American police. That's it.

So nope, you're 100% right. BLM isn't protesting about things like racism in banking and housing policy. And they're not lifting a finger to fight world hunger. And they're also not working on a cure for cancer.

But for whatever reason, you have managed to convince yourselves that they're hypocrites for not doing any of those things.
runrussellrun wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:25 am Someone KEEPS on breaking their "I''ll never use "whataboutism" again. Yet, here it is.
How is calling out this woman's BS "Whataboutism"? She doesn't get to call out protesters for not marching in a different neighborhood. That's where my "doing it wrong" came from....it wasn't a direct quote. I was making fun of this half wit logic of hers. She's mad that BLM isn't protesting what SHE thinks they should be protesting.
runrussellrun wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:25 am
The first step, is she did DO something about it. You, me, and millions of others are discussing it. Get it now.
Nope. She needs to get on a plane, and fix the violence in Chicago, which is what she was griping about. She----and you----just got done criticizing BLM for not protesting in the right places.

Here's the answer to both you and this woman: if you think BLM is doing it wrong, quit complaining and start your own protest in Chicago. you keep on focusing on Chicago. this articulate woman also called out, pointed out, yelled out, "Why don't you go to North East " I pointed this out already, afan. She also asked how many blacks were killed in DC this morning ? By other blacks. During the exchange with the white woman. but, whittle it down like missing strawberries, afan.

Neither of you are going to do anything about violence in Chicago, of course. And neither of you are going to protest there. You're just going to throw stones at others, and pretend like you're allowed to look down your noses at these protesters.
so, your entire argument is based on something that YOU completely made up ..........pathetic

......and what world , or rules, says she doesn't get to call out anyone? First Amedment? She has EVERY right to says what she wants, in that venue especially. Now you are calling her a "half wit". What is wrong with you? such a bully, only your fecesbook mindset has you in binary arsewhole world. Thumbs up for AFAN :roll:

Re: Racism in America- Week 2 of Riots

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:11 pm
by kramerica.inc
Marquette rescinds offer for admissions to women’s lax player due to social media posts about the George Floyd death:

https://amp.jsonline.com/amp/5311865002 ... ssion=true

Re: Racism in America- Riots Explode Nationwide with Help From Instigators

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:19 pm
by a fan
runrussellrun wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:07 pm......and what world , or rules, says she doesn't get to call out anyone? First Amedment? She has EVERY right to says what she wants, in that venue especially. Now you are calling her a "half wit". What is wrong with you? such a bully, only your fecesbook mindset has you in binary arsewhole world. Thumbs up for AFAN :roll:
:lol: So now I don't have the right to say what I want about this situation? And neither does BLM. This lady is the only one who gets to share her opinion, and gets to scream at people calling them hypocrites. And I don't have "EVERY right to say what I want", and call her logic "halfwit?" Do I have the RRR scorecard right here?

And this lady isn't a hypocrite for yelling at BLM marchers for not marching in Chicago----all while she sits back and does nothing. Do I have this straight?

You're running in circles, with no way out. Let me know when you and your bullying friend think it's ok for BLM to march. I'm sure they CAN'T WAIT to get your approval to march.

:lol: I'm the bully---not this lady, screaming at protesters at the top of her lungs. All while doing nothing. Whew. Good one.

Re: Racism in America- Week 2 of Riots

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:21 pm
by runrussellrun
kramerica.inc wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:11 pm Marquette rescinds offer for admissions to women’s lax player due to social media posts about the George Floyd death:

https://amp.jsonline.com/amp/5311865002 ... ssion=true
isn't the entire idea to EDUCATE a person like this?

Legally, Marquette made the wrong move with this. Especially with the idiotic press release statement, "all are welcome", just after announcing this young woman is NOT welcome. Do they really think the rest of the world is this stupid?

Re: Racism in America- Riots Explode Nationwide with Help From Instigators

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:30 pm
by old salt
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:39 pmc) some form of martial law as we go into election season.
Trump is giving the Governors every opportunity to prevent this. Most seem to understand this & are taking the hint.

Re: Racism in America- Week 2 of Riots

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:30 pm
by Peter Brown
runrussellrun wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:21 pm
kramerica.inc wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:11 pm Marquette rescinds offer for admissions to women’s lax player due to social media posts about the George Floyd death:

https://amp.jsonline.com/amp/5311865002 ... ssion=true
isn't the entire idea to EDUCATE a person like this?

Legally, Marquette made the wrong move with this. Especially with the idiotic press release statement, "all are welcome", just after announcing this young woman is NOT welcome. Do they really think the rest of the world is this stupid?


The above is a very good post.

Re: Racism in America- Riots Explode Nationwide with Help From Instigators

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:38 pm
by MDlaxfan76
old salt wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:30 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:39 pmc) some form of martial law as we go into election season.
Trump is giving the Governors every opportunity to prevent this. Most seem to understand this & are taking the hint.
Which ones do you think are doing anything differently than what they would have done without all the bluster and haranguing, the "hint" as you call it?

It's not as if they weren't already accessing Guard as support. It's not as if any of them are chill with arson and looting.

Seems to me that the ones having the most success in keeping things calm (er) have been those who have embraced the validity of the protests and the underlying roots of the anger. Police chiefs marching with protestors, etc.

You want to see this blow up? Call out the dogs and bull horns, Bull Connor style.
Roll out the tanks and see this country go completely up in flames.

Re: Racism in America- Riots Explode Nationwide with Help From Instigators

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:39 pm
by runrussellrun
a fan wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:19 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:07 pm......and what world , or rules, says she doesn't get to call out anyone? First Amedment? She has EVERY right to says what she wants, in that venue especially. Now you are calling her a "half wit". What is wrong with you? such a bully, only your fecesbook mindset has you in binary arsewhole world. Thumbs up for AFAN :roll:
:lol: So now I don't have the right to say what I want about this situation? And neither does BLM. This lady is the only one who gets to share her opinion, and gets to scream at people calling them hypocrites. And I don't have "EVERY right to say what I want", and call her logic "halfwit?" Do I have the RRR scorecard right here?
Phantoms, ghouls and gobblins.....monsters under the bed. what they hey are you discussing here? more classic NET moving. NO ONE said you did NOT have the right to write what you want. It is only YOU who is objecting to HER.
And this lady isn't a hypocrite for yelling at BLM marchers for not marching in Chicago----all while she sits back and does nothing. Do I have this straight? Again, I will spell it out for you AGAIN. at 5:30 of this video, she asks about the District of Columbia, aka, DC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... e=emb_logo


You're running in circles, with no way out. Let me know when you and your bullying friend think it's ok for BLM to march. I'm sure they CAN'T WAIT to get your approval to march. Again, only in your HEAD (zombie, great zong/R.I.P. ) is anyone saying BLM needs approval to march. Just suggestions of when and where. Simple. like making booze. Making good booze, like a good cause/march.....isn't so simple.



:lol: I'm the bully---not this lady, screaming at protesters at the top of her lungs. All while doing nothing. Whew. Good one. You know ,she does NOTHING ? based on what information that you have on this young woman ?
A couple questions:
WHO is this woman........and why is a right wing group editing/publishing this video? Brietbart

Should BLM march and protest in Chicago. For black on black killing. Black on black lives Don't Matter? Is this what YOU are saying AFAN? That BLM would be stupid to march in Baltimore? Do you even know if they ever have ? Does she know?

Re: Racism in America- Week 2 of Riots

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:46 pm
by ggait
Peter Brown wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:30 pm
The above is a very good post.
The below are very awful posts. Which Peter Brown continues to stick by:

“The preliminary autopsy was just released right now, and the results suggest that the deceased died of causes unrelated to the cop's knee.”

“You are wrong here. The cop did not torture the guy 'to death'. He died of other causes,”