Re: Cornell 2020
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:08 pm
As RedIvy says, it’s really a function that we already had Piatelli and Teat on attack, and Lombardi is better suited for midfield than Long, who has been a great addition as the X attackman.
As RedIvy says, it’s really a function that we already had Piatelli and Teat on attack, and Lombardi is better suited for midfield than Long, who has been a great addition as the X attackman.
I hope your right but I’m not as confident about FO this weekend. TD has many FO skills that make him very unique unlike any other FOGO. If we can tie him up long enough to get our wings in we may get a few, hoping 30 - 35%. The good news is Yale’s offense is not as efficient as Penn State. So getting 1/3 of FO’s combined with better offense efficiency, lower turnovers, solid clearing and at least 50% on 50/50 ground balls not including Face Offs, I think we have a good chance. We also need to limit penalties and it would be perfect timing for a big game from Chase.faircornell wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:59 pm I don't want to get too far ahead of things in discussion, but my preliminary view is that Petrakis could be reasonably competitive against TD Ierlan this coming Saturday. If the Big Red put long poles on the wings and hustle for 50/50 ground balls, the face off situation could be neutralized. Also, if we can clear, limit turnovers (only 9 on Sunday), and create CTOs (8 on Sunday), we should be competitive.
On defense, I wonder if Adler is the one to cover Gaudet, or if it's someone taller. I'd argue for Adler, since his footwork can contain Gaudet. The biggest risk for this player as a scoring threat is his ability to capitalise on any defensive misalignment. Versus Michigan, he scored mostly in unsettled situations.
I agree. I was hoping for 30ish percentage. Michigan won almost no face offs, and still was somewhat competitive with Yale, with a much less efficient offense. I also noted the wrestling background (at 182 pounds, he was not a small competitor).RedIvy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:32 pmI hope your right but I’m not as confident about FO this weekend. TD has many FO skills that make him very unique unlike any other FOGO. If we can tie him up long enough to get our wings in we may get a few, hoping 30 - 35%. The good news is Yale’s offense is not as efficient as Penn State. So getting 1/3 of FO’s combined with better offense efficiency, lower turnovers, solid clearing and at least 50% on 50/50 ground balls not including Face Offs, I think we have a good chance. We also need to limit penalties and it would be perfect timing for a big game from Chase.faircornell wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:59 pm I don't want to get too far ahead of things in discussion, but my preliminary view is that Petrakis could be reasonably competitive against TD Ierlan this coming Saturday. If the Big Red put long poles on the wings and hustle for 50/50 ground balls, the face off situation could be neutralized. Also, if we can clear, limit turnovers (only 9 on Sunday), and create CTOs (8 on Sunday), we should be competitive.
On defense, I wonder if Adler is the one to cover Gaudet, or if it's someone taller. I'd argue for Adler, since his footwork can contain Gaudet. The biggest risk for this player as a scoring threat is his ability to capitalise on any defensive misalignment. Versus Michigan, he scored mostly in unsettled situations.
Hope I’m surprised, NYS wrestling champion against NYS runner up wrestling champion.
Well said, Chousnake. I know that I'm being a bit obsessive about this, but it was a really great play. It reminded me a bit of #10, in the (relative) patience under fire. There were one or two other times when Teat could have shot during his dodges, but waited for the "optimal" chance. Very few lacrosse players could have hung in there and taken that shot, and made those micro-judgements while being covered tightly.Chousnake wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:09 pm Just watched the highlights again. The SSDM guarding Teat on the tying goal actually did a very good job. Teat didn't really beat him. He just got his hands free with the SSDM still right in front of him and shot around him with a perfectly placed shot. Cornell cleared out the right side for Teat. Fletcher stayed up high and Telesco and Piatelli stayed far to the left. Long and Donville were on the crease and any slide would have left either open for what appears to be a lay up shot. It was just a great play by a great player.
I agree, but IMO #47 should have slid down to help instead of sticking with Coyle (not Telesco, who was not on the field).Chousnake wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:09 pm Just watched the highlights again. The SSDM guarding Teat on the tying goal actually did a very good job. Teat didn't really beat him. He just got his hands free with the SSDM still right in front of him and shot around him with a perfectly placed shot. Cornell cleared out the right side for Teat. Fletcher stayed up high and Telesco and Piatelli stayed far to the left. Long and Donville were on the crease and any slide would have left either open for what appears to be a lay up shot. It was just a great play by a great player.
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Thanks for your insights, VRR. It'll be interesting to see if Petrakis can make a dent in Ierlan's technique. I was thinking that as a wrestler, perhaps he could (sort of a Ali/Liston thing, but I might be overly optimistic). With respect to Gaudot coverage, I defer to you. That entire attack is excellent.VeryRustyRed wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:36 am faircornell - I concur with RedIvy's thoughts about Ierlan this weekend. Ierlan has (almost) a unique skill set - technique, quickness, strength, and IQ (study of opponent - remember the technique he used to neutralize Baptiste two years ago). If Petrakis (or Raz or Graham) is to be competitive at all, he has to be able to tie Ierlan up...or else the wings will not even come close to getting in the mix for 50/50 balls. Also, Ierlan is a horse. He can take every face-off. My guess is that Petrakis, due to several factors, needs a break. As does Raz who has battled injuries every season.
Also, in terms of match-ups, I'm pretty confident that Doria will be on Gaudet. He did a fantastic job on him in the ILT two years ago. Also, Gaudet plays off-ball. You don't want your quickest cover guy on an off-ball guy. Neutralizing Morrill will be one of the keys - Adler or Salvatore. I also recall that Yale's middie, Brian Tevlin, a speed guy, had a great day against Cornell last year during the regular season. Seemingly ran by our shorties all game. I'm sure Coach Stevens will have reviewed the tape.
While Yale may have an advantage at FO I think they have a more difficult time matching up and covering our offense then we do theirs. Not only 6 scoring threats on the field at once but the mid lines represent different types of threats.....faircornell wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:01 amThanks for your insights, VRR. It'll be interesting to see if Petrakis can make a dent in Ierlan's technique. I was thinking that as a wrestler, perhaps he could (sort of a Ali/Liston thing, but I might be overly optimistic). With respect to Gaudot coverage, I defer to you. That entire attack is excellent.VeryRustyRed wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:36 am faircornell - I concur with RedIvy's thoughts about Ierlan this weekend. Ierlan has (almost) a unique skill set - technique, quickness, strength, and IQ (study of opponent - remember the technique he used to neutralize Baptiste two years ago). If Petrakis (or Raz or Graham) is to be competitive at all, he has to be able to tie Ierlan up...or else the wings will not even come close to getting in the mix for 50/50 balls. Also, Ierlan is a horse. He can take every face-off. My guess is that Petrakis, due to several factors, needs a break. As does Raz who has battled injuries every season.
Also, in terms of match-ups, I'm pretty confident that Doria will be on Gaudet. He did a fantastic job on him in the ILT two years ago. Also, Gaudet plays off-ball. You don't want your quickest cover guy on an off-ball guy. Neutralizing Morrill will be one of the keys - Adler or Salvatore. I also recall that Yale's middie, Brian Tevlin, a speed guy, had a great day against Cornell last year during the regular season. Seemingly ran by our shorties all game. I'm sure Coach Stevens will have reviewed the tape.
Not to nitpick (Gaudet). Very good player. Should be a very good game. My next door neighbor played at Cornell and my college roommate coached there so I have a mild soft spot for Cornell.faircornell wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:01 amThanks for your insights, VRR. It'll be interesting to see if Petrakis can make a dent in Ierlan's technique. I was thinking that as a wrestler, perhaps he could (sort of a Ali/Liston thing, but I might be overly optimistic). With respect to Gaudot coverage, I defer to you. That entire attack is excellent.VeryRustyRed wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:36 am faircornell - I concur with RedIvy's thoughts about Ierlan this weekend. Ierlan has (almost) a unique skill set - technique, quickness, strength, and IQ (study of opponent - remember the technique he used to neutralize Baptiste two years ago). If Petrakis (or Raz or Graham) is to be competitive at all, he has to be able to tie Ierlan up...or else the wings will not even come close to getting in the mix for 50/50 balls. Also, Ierlan is a horse. He can take every face-off. My guess is that Petrakis, due to several factors, needs a break. As does Raz who has battled injuries every season.
Also, in terms of match-ups, I'm pretty confident that Doria will be on Gaudet. He did a fantastic job on him in the ILT two years ago. Also, Gaudet plays off-ball. You don't want your quickest cover guy on an off-ball guy. Neutralizing Morrill will be one of the keys - Adler or Salvatore. I also recall that Yale's middie, Brian Tevlin, a speed guy, had a great day against Cornell last year during the regular season. Seemingly ran by our shorties all game. I'm sure Coach Stevens will have reviewed the tape.
I agree that Doria will be on Gaudet; not sure whether Adler will be on Morrill or Brandau, as both have hurt us in the past. I think our real advantage is the threats presented by both our midfield lines. I believe Yale's midfields, including Tevlin, have yet to hit their stride-- hopefully they do not break out against us. Yale's D has matched up well against our attack, with Fake doing a nice job against Teat.RedIvy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:51 amWhile Yale may have an advantage at FO I think they have a more difficult time matching up and covering our offense then we do theirs. Not only 6 scoring threats on the field at once but the mid lines represent different types of threats.....faircornell wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:01 amThanks for your insights, VRR. It'll be interesting to see if Petrakis can make a dent in Ierlan's technique. I was thinking that as a wrestler, perhaps he could (sort of a Ali/Liston thing, but I might be overly optimistic). With respect to Gaudot coverage, I defer to you. That entire attack is excellent.VeryRustyRed wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:36 am faircornell - I concur with RedIvy's thoughts about Ierlan this weekend. Ierlan has (almost) a unique skill set - technique, quickness, strength, and IQ (study of opponent - remember the technique he used to neutralize Baptiste two years ago). If Petrakis (or Raz or Graham) is to be competitive at all, he has to be able to tie Ierlan up...or else the wings will not even come close to getting in the mix for 50/50 balls. Also, Ierlan is a horse. He can take every face-off. My guess is that Petrakis, due to several factors, needs a break. As does Raz who has battled injuries every season.
Also, in terms of match-ups, I'm pretty confident that Doria will be on Gaudet. He did a fantastic job on him in the ILT two years ago. Also, Gaudet plays off-ball. You don't want your quickest cover guy on an off-ball guy. Neutralizing Morrill will be one of the keys - Adler or Salvatore. I also recall that Yale's middie, Brian Tevlin, a speed guy, had a great day against Cornell last year during the regular season. Seemingly ran by our shorties all game. I'm sure Coach Stevens will have reviewed the tape.
Key will be value possessions, avoid unnessary penalties especially unreleaseable types (that can create a run if they dominate at FO) and a good game from CI. Along with our normal high efficiency offense.
Will be close....