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Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:49 am Trump cuts things off before they happen with American competence.

You can't even come up with a good troll answer? Come on...show some imagination!

Imaginations are clouded when one's head is up his/her asz.

a fan wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:56 am

Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:49 am Trump cuts things off before they happen with American competence.

You can't even come up with a good troll answer? Come on...show some imagination!

Proof is in the pudding.

Trump

No new wars
Low inflation
Full shelves
Fewer Covid deaths
Fewer vaccine deaths
Higher stock market
Peace worldwide
An apolitical justice dept.
Secure border
Energy independence and low prices
No recessions


All due to Trumps genius, quickness, deal making, 5d talent, brazen honesty and lack of DC loser weaknesses.

Oh boy, methinks a fan is going to have a field day with this.
Getting my popcorn.

DMac wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 12:01 pm Imaginations are clouded when one's head is up his/her asz.

This is the game TrumpFans have been playing....claiming Putin would never have invaded under Trump.....forgetting that Trump's plan (which I supported) was to stay out of pointless wars on his watch.

Trump gave the green light to Putin, if he needed it. Clearly, and I know this is hard for Americans to understand, the world outside of America's shores don't rise and fall according to who is in the White House.

But I also love that no one asked TrumpNation, "so why didn't Putin invade Ukraine under weak ol' Obama?" They don't know what to say, because it ruins their idea that Trump has a cape, flies over tall buildings in a single bound, and solves crimes in his spare time.

Trump didn't invade Ukraine while Obama was in office because Obama, Trump, or Biden had NOTHING to do with Putin's decisions. Yeah, I know, that's REALLY hard to understand.

Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 12:08 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:56 am

Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:49 am Trump cuts things off before they happen with American competence.

You can't even come up with a good troll answer? Come on...show some imagination!

Proof is in the pudding.

Trump

No new wars

Not true. Did you forget about wiping out ISIS? Or are you giving Obama credit for that?

Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 12:08 pm Low inflation

Entirely true. Do you remember why? Global pandemic ring a bell anywhere?

Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 12:08 pm Higher stock market

Forgot about the Covid crash. Boy, you don't have much of a memory.

Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 12:08 pm Full shelves

Nope. All this tells me is that you didn't work during Covid. We had all sorts of supply issues, my man. The easy one for you would be the toilet paper shortage.

Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 12:08 pm Fewer Covid deaths

Yep. Next time, get vaccinated, just like Trump himself did. Problem solved.

Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 12:08 pm Peace worldwide

All this tells me is that you don't know anyone in the military. How many troops do we have in Syria right now, Essex? Do you even know?

Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 12:08 pm An apolitical justice dept.

Don't tell Old Salt. Trump ruled over the height of your Deep State, remember?

Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 12:08 pm Secure border

Not even close, my man. Do you think that no one came to America illegally before Covid hit, Essex? Or heck...DURING Covid?

Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 12:08 pm Energy independence and low prices

True. Remember why? How many people worked from home, globally, in 2020-21, Essex?

We've never been energy independent. We could EASILY do that.....ban importations of fossil fuels. Boom, done. Is that what you want? Because we kept right on importing oil under Trump, my man.

Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 12:08 pm No recessions

Uh oh. Someone "forgot" about all the trillions we spent bailing out American businesses during Covid.

Or that the Dow went from 29,000 in Feb of 2020 to 19,000 in March of 2021.

And you CLEARLY have forgotten that Trump increased Federal spending by 66% in just 4 years. Trump made the Federal Government ENORMOUS under his rule. And Essex, naturally, is happy to see the Government lording over his life and the economy.

Want me to list stuff I think Trump did well, off the top of my head? 1. Covid, once he figured out it was real, and not a plot to take him out. Federal response was as good as could be expected. Plus, he gave all of the power to the States, which was a good move, imho. 2. Outside if ISIS, he didn't invade a new country. Hooray for that. 3. Federal prison reform bill signed. 4. send Federal agents to help Chicago deal with gun violence.

So no, it's not all bad. But the stuff you listed is just silly. Come up with real stuff he did that you liked. It's not that hard....you don't need to make stuff up that didn't happen.

Deficits are always huge when democrats have control of the pursestrings. Always a recession approx 2 years after democrats take congress

Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 12:32 pm Deficits are always huge when democrats have control of the pursestrings. Always a recession approx 2 years after democrats take congress

Essex, come on, my man! You can troll better than this!! This is the best you can do?

Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 12:08 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:56 am

Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:49 am Trump cuts things off before they happen with American competence.

You can't even come up with a good troll answer? Come on...show some imagination!

Proof is in the pudding.

Trump

No new wars
Low inflation
Full shelves
Fewer Covid deaths
Fewer vaccine deaths
Higher stock market
Peace worldwide
An apolitical justice dept.
Secure border
Energy independence and low prices
No recessions


All due to Trumps genius, quickness, deal making, 5d talent, brazen honesty and lack of DC loser weaknesses.

Do you love him? I mean, really love him?

Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 1:29 pm

Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 12:08 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:56 am

Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:49 am Trump cuts things off before they happen with American competence.

You can't even come up with a good troll answer? Come on...show some imagination!

Proof is in the pudding.

Trump

No new wars
Low inflation
Full shelves
Fewer Covid deaths
Fewer vaccine deaths
Higher stock market
Peace worldwide
An apolitical justice dept.
Secure border
Energy independence and low prices
No recessions


All due to Trumps genius, quickness, deal making, 5d talent, brazen honesty and lack of DC loser weaknesses.

Do you love him? I mean, really love him?

I admire his genius, quickness and 5d chess.

I think we were warned not to feed trolls...

But, hey, Petey and Essex...one troll, two names.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 4:51 pm I think we were warned not to feed trolls...

But, hey, Petey and Essex...one troll, two names.

You're absolutely right.

Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:11 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 4:51 pm I think we were warned not to feed trolls...

But, hey, Petey and Essex...one troll, two names.

You're absolutely right.

a fan wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:45 am

Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:44 am

a fan wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:42 am

Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 10:42 am Once Putin felt safe to invade when Trump wasn’t running things he did.

Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 10:42 am Putin isn’t going to “lose”. Any logical person knew that from the beginning. It’s either victory or a tie with the world all dead.

You understand that these two statements don't go together, right? Now remember, Trump is the guy who had the slogan "America First". I'm assuming you know what that slogan meant, yeah?

To wit: what is you think Trump would have done if Putin had invaded Ukraine on his watch?

Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 10:42 am Did it under Obama too.

No. He didn't. Obama and Democrats are weak, right? So explain why Putin didn't simply invade Ukraine when Obama was in charge.

Did he lose the key fob for his tank?

He invaded Georgia under Obama.

Yeah, that's not what I asked. Why didn't Putin invade Ukraine under Obama?

And what would Trump have done had Putin invaded? Pretty simple questions, Essex.

He did. Obama was President in 2014 when Russia seized Ukraine & a big chunk of the Donbas.
The corrupt, negligent Ukrainians failed to deter it & defend against it.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 10:53 am

old salt wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:12 am

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Sat Sep 24, 2022 11:17 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Sep 24, 2022 11:04 pm

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Sat Sep 24, 2022 11:00 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Sep 24, 2022 9:49 pm The Russians who do the fighting & dying are not the city kids & the middle class kids.
Just like in the US, they're the poor kids & the country kids.
Zelensky had to trick his conscripts into staying home by assuring them there would be no invasion,
then closing the border to keep military age males from departing.
This is a senseless war, causing a global recession, being funded by US taxpayers, to determine who controls Crimea & the corridor connecting it to Mother Russia & guaranteeing Russian access to the Black Sea. It's as senseless as the last CrImean War was.
Russians have long memories. They won't soon forget the part the US is playing in generating their casualties.
Our support of our Ukrainian proxies has brought us to the brink of nuclear war with Russia, ...for what vital US interest ?
None of us are qualified to predict what Putin will do. Our leaders & their advisors don't have a reassuring track record in that regard.

Russia must lose this war.

Russia must be humiliated in defeat.

Russia must suffer for a long time.

Appeasement, which is precisely what you are proposing, will not stop Putin’s wars.

Only a complete defeat of Russia will stop Putin’s wars.

Only a complete defeat of Russia will end Putin.

DocBarrister

Insanity. Not worth the risk, or even the cost of "victory".

I’m sure Neville Chamberlain thought the same.

DocBarrister

That's a historically stupid analogy. In 1939, there was no NATO.
We've been reinforcing NATO's E flank since 2014 & preparing Ukraine to defend themselves.
We have already guaranteed Ukraine's national survival. They may lose some territory they failed to defend.
They had over 20 years to prepare for their own defense & failed to do so.

Yup, you've said it again...it's Ukraine's fault.

and NATO's...

The Russians have long memories...and Ukraine isn't a sovereign country...Russia is...

got it.

Ukraine is not without blame. Every nation has a responsibility to defend itself & to deter aggressors.
Ukraine was negligent in that regard. That's why nations like Israel & S Korea (to name 2) still exist.
We help them because they made a good faith effort to defend themselves. Ukraine did not.
They let Russia seize territory in 2014 & failed to deter or adequately defend against an invasion 8 years later.
Ukraine is an artificial construct. An accident of SovIet history with illogical indefensible borders.
THE Ukraine was an integral part of Russia, since the inception of the Russian nation, as was Belarus.
They were severed from Mother Russia by the accidental break up of the USSR.
Putin is not the only Russian nationalist intent on reuniting all of Russia.
This won't end with Putin.

old salt wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 9:01 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 10:53 am

old salt wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:12 am

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Sat Sep 24, 2022 11:17 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Sep 24, 2022 11:04 pm

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Sat Sep 24, 2022 11:00 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Sep 24, 2022 9:49 pm The Russians who do the fighting & dying are not the city kids & the middle class kids.
Just like in the US, they're the poor kids & the country kids.
Zelensky had to trick his conscripts into staying home by assuring them there would be no invasion,
then closing the border to keep military age males from departing.
This is a senseless war, causing a global recession, being funded by US taxpayers, to determine who controls Crimea & the corridor connecting it to Mother Russia & guaranteeing Russian access to the Black Sea. It's as senseless as the last CrImean War was.
Russians have long memories. They won't soon forget the part the US is playing in generating their casualties.
Our support of our Ukrainian proxies has brought us to the brink of nuclear war with Russia, ...for what vital US interest ?
None of us are qualified to predict what Putin will do. Our leaders & their advisors don't have a reassuring track record in that regard.

Russia must lose this war.

Russia must be humiliated in defeat.

Russia must suffer for a long time.

Appeasement, which is precisely what you are proposing, will not stop Putin’s wars.

Only a complete defeat of Russia will stop Putin’s wars.

Only a complete defeat of Russia will end Putin.

DocBarrister

Insanity. Not worth the risk, or even the cost of "victory".

I’m sure Neville Chamberlain thought the same.

DocBarrister

That's a historically stupid analogy. In 1939, there was no NATO.
We've been reinforcing NATO's E flank since 2014 & preparing Ukraine to defend themselves.
We have already guaranteed Ukraine's national survival. They may lose some territory they failed to defend.
They had over 20 years to prepare for their own defense & failed to do so.

Yup, you've said it again...it's Ukraine's fault.

and NATO's...

The Russians have long memories...and Ukraine isn't a sovereign country...Russia is...

got it.

Ukraine is not without blame. Every nation has a responsibility to defend itself & to deter aggressors.
Ukraine was negligent in that regard. That's why nations like Israel & S Korea (to name 2) still exist.
We help them because they made a good faith effort to defend themselves. Ukraine did not.
They let Russia seize territory in 2014 & failed to deter or adequately defend against an invasion 8 years later.
Ukraine is an artificial construct. An accident of SovIet history with illogical indefensible borders.

that’s it?

After a hot and dry summer, the rain and chill in September brought some relief to parched Germans—but also a reminder of the looming winter. On September 16th Klaus Müller, boss of the Bundesnetzagentur (bna), Germany’s energy regulator, admitted that if it gets very cold “we will have a problem”. He could not rule out the rationing of natural gas, which Germany’s biggest supplier, Russia, has withheld as part of its war in Ukraine.

Germany’s chancellor, Olaf Scholz, is doing all he can to avert this eventuality. In the past week his government has unveiled two radical measures as part of that effort. On September 21st the economy ministry announced the complete nationalisation of Uniper, Europe’s biggest and most gas-addled power utility. More controversially, five days earlier the government said it was seizing control of stakes held in three German refineries by Rosneft, Russia’s state-owned oil giant. The assets, pck, miro and Bayernoil, were placed under the trusteeship of the bna.

This is not the first time since Vladimir Putin’s tanks rolled into Ukraine in February that Germany has expropriated Russian assets. In April it did the same to gas-storage facilities operated in the country by Gazprom Germania, a subsidiary of Russia’s national gas behemoth. The seizure of Rosneft’s assets, in particular pck, of which the Russian firm owned 54%, has proved quite a bit thornier.

Thousands of jobs hinge directly or indirectly on pck in Schwedt, the biggest city in one of the country’s poorest regions, Uckermark. That and the fact that pck supplies 90% of Berlin’s oil, diesel and aviation fuel were the main reasons why Germany was hesitant to sign up to the eu embargo on Russian oil when it was first proposed in late May. The embargo, which is set to take effect at the end of the year, would mean the refinery will no longer be able to accept Russian crude. Moreover, suppliers, insurers and banks afraid of being inadvertently caught up in the sanctions net refused to do business with it so long as Rosneft remained part-owner.

Rosneft is, predictably, furious. It called the German government’s actions “illegal”. More surprisingly, the decision to place pck under trusteeship did not go down well in Schwedt, either. The city of around 30,000 sits atop Druzhba (Russian for “friendship”), the world’s longest pipeline, which started pumping crude oil from central Russia to “fraternal socialist people” including Poland, Hungary and then-Czechoslovakia in the 1960s. Druzhba is why many families moved to Schwedt, a city almost entirely razed during the second world war by advancing Soviet troops.

Jens Koeppen, an opposition mp who represents Schwedt, says that the government is “knowingly sacrificing” a successful business in Schwedt. He argues that it is absurd to pretend that German energy supply in the next five years will be secure and affordable without imports from Russia.

The government, for its part, insists that pck does not need Russia’s crude to thrive. It has promised a €400m ($395m) upgrade to the oil pipeline from Rostock, a port on the Baltic Sea, to Schwedt. It wants to invest another €825m in the next 15 years in and around pck. That, it says, will keep it going until it can be sold to a new owner. Poland’s state-run energy firm, Orlen, has already expressed an interest in acquiring Rosneft’s seized stake. In the meantime, Mr Scholz’s ministers are in talks with their Polish counterparts to get supplies for pck through the Polish port of Gdansk.

Mr Koeppen is nevertheless not crazy to worry about pck’s near-term prospects. The Rostock pipeline can at present only supply 60% of pck’s crude-oil needs. Even the promised upgrade will increase that to only 75%—and only in two years’ time, if all goes well. Getting oil from Gdansk is expensive, since the stuff is being shipped to Poland from Saudi Arabia. Another option is to import oil from Kazhakstan via Druzhba, but increasingly belligerent Russia will almost certainly not allow it.

All this means that pck will run well below capacity as soon as Russian oil stops flowing, says Florian Thaler of OilX, a consultancy. Given Russia’s recent setbacks in Ukraine and its heightened war footing, that could happen any day. ■

Recent video footage of Russian Army

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 9:18 pm Recent video footage of Russian Army

...that could also be the German economy this winter.