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a fan wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 10:09 pm The endgame is the White House. It's the Trump blueprint: run on culture war, and pretend you can "fix" culture with elected officials. If you do that, you don't need a platform.

I meant the endgame on the hate. The White House is not the final goal, but a stepping stone. I was curious about what happens when they gain enough power to put their hate into widespread action.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:49 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 5:19 pm Is this what they ultimately want?

https://twitter.com/_barringtonii/statu ... p6_4JgXSkQ

Who is "they"?

Pedophiles?

That is the real question here that YA never answered. Who is "they" to him? It's certainly not just some random dude in the video. YA has posted multiple times about LGBTQ people and pedophiles (ignoring other groups and pedophiles). So is his question actually "Is this what the LGBTQ+ ultimately want?"

That's the goal of that media movement to smear the trans and LGBT community, to "just ask questions." Just plant the seeds and get people talking. Any publicity is good. And in addition they imply or flat out accuse this entire group of being pedophiles.

In reality, the answer to YA's question is a simple no. It's not what "they ultimately want." Asked and answered. If he wanted to get into the weeds on age of consent of teenagers with their peers he would have lead with a very different link.

It's a hit job, plain and simple. And fits the thread's title.

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:40 am

a fan wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 10:09 pm The endgame is the White House. It's the Trump blueprint: run on culture war, and pretend you can "fix" culture with elected officials. If you do that, you don't need a platform.

I meant the endgame on the hate.

Oh. My opinion? Money. And power. The 1%ers foment this to get clicks and seats of power. DeSantis and Trump aren't racists imho. They're opportunists that know how to get these people to like and vote for them. So they virtue signal with stupid things like the fake Disney kerfuffle.

Look at the Dilbert guy. Did you notice that in part of his racist rant he said that he's sick of seeing video of black people beating up whites?

He....and millions of Americans.....do NOT understand that the internet they see isn't the same as what others see. And that the algorithms are there to get him to click and use more social media. So he's being shown this distorted view of the world. I feel nothing but pity for him that he doesn't get what has been done to him....and he bought what he was sold hook, line, sinker, and the whole freaking boat.

It's why I mock the idea that "the media" is liberal. It's not liberal-----it's sole motivation is money. That's it. Full stop. It's why Tucker mentioned the stock price in the emails about Jan6. It's about money for him, and that's it.

a fan wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:38 am

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:40 am

a fan wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 10:09 pm The endgame is the White House. It's the Trump blueprint: run on culture war, and pretend you can "fix" culture with elected officials. If you do that, you don't need a platform.

I meant the endgame on the hate.

Oh. My opinion? Money. And power. The 1%ers foment this to get clicks and seats of power. DeSantis and Trump aren't racists imho. They're opportunists that know how to get these people to like and vote for them. So they virtue signal with stupid things like the fake Disney kerfuffle.

Look at the Dilbert guy. Did you notice that in part of his racist rant he said that he's sick of seeing video of black people beating up whites?

Maybe at the start. Problem is the tail is starting to wag the dog.

A wave of anti-LGBT legislation in state legislatures. Rise in LGBT hate crimes. Rise in racial hate crimes. Rise in anti-semitic hate crimes.

The powerful are spewing out this vitriol while not believing it. But it's getting lapped up and regurgiated by real people who demand action. And in turn the people who do believe it are getting elected to school boards, city councils, state legislatures, governors offices, US Congress in growing numbers. It's gonna get worse before it gets better.

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:19 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:49 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 5:19 pm Is this what they ultimately want?

https://twitter.com/_barringtonii/statu ... p6_4JgXSkQ

Who is "they"?

Pedophiles?

That is the real question here that YA never answered. Who is "they" to him? It's certainly not just some random dude in the video. YA has posted multiple times about LGBTQ people and pedophiles (ignoring other groups and pedophiles). So is his question actually "Is this what the LGBTQ+ ultimately want?"

That's the goal of that media movement to smear the trans and LGBT community, to "just ask questions." Just plant the seeds and get people talking. Any publicity is good. And in addition they imply or flat out accuse this entire group of being pedophiles.

In reality, the answer to YA's question is a simple no. It's not what "they ultimately want." Asked and answered. If he wanted to get into the weeds on age of consent of teenagers with their peers he would have lead with a very different link.

It's a hit job, plain and simple. And fits the thread's title.

Yep. Hence TLD frequently saying “he’s just putting it out there”

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:04 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:38 am

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:40 am

a fan wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 10:09 pm The endgame is the White House. It's the Trump blueprint: run on culture war, and pretend you can "fix" culture with elected officials. If you do that, you don't need a platform.

I meant the endgame on the hate.

Oh. My opinion? Money. And power. The 1%ers foment this to get clicks and seats of power. DeSantis and Trump aren't racists imho. They're opportunists that know how to get these people to like and vote for them. So they virtue signal with stupid things like the fake Disney kerfuffle.

Look at the Dilbert guy. Did you notice that in part of his racist rant he said that he's sick of seeing video of black people beating up whites?

Maybe at the start. Problem is the tail is starting to wag the dog.

A wave of anti-LGBT legislation in state legislatures. Rise in LGBT hate crimes. Rise in racial hate crimes. Rise in anti-semitic hate crimes.

The powerful are spewing out this vitriol while not believing it. But it's getting lapped up and regurgiated by real people who demand action. And in turn the people who do believe it are getting elected to school boards, city councils, state legislatures, governors offices, US Congress in growing numbers. It's gonna get worse before it gets better.

Sort of why I posted this the other day

https://robkhenderson.substack.com/p/th ... he-leisure

https://fanlax.com/forum/viewtopic.php? ... 93#p433893

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:04 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:38 am

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:40 am

a fan wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 10:09 pm The endgame is the White House. It's the Trump blueprint: run on culture war, and pretend you can "fix" culture with elected officials. If you do that, you don't need a platform.

I meant the endgame on the hate.

Oh. My opinion? Money. And power. The 1%ers foment this to get clicks and seats of power. DeSantis and Trump aren't racists imho. They're opportunists that know how to get these people to like and vote for them. So they virtue signal with stupid things like the fake Disney kerfuffle.

Look at the Dilbert guy. Did you notice that in part of his racist rant he said that he's sick of seeing video of black people beating up whites?

Maybe at the start. Problem is the tail is starting to wag the dog.

A wave of anti-LGBT legislation in state legislatures. Rise in LGBT hate crimes. Rise in racial hate crimes. Rise in anti-semitic hate crimes.

The powerful are spewing out this vitriol while not believing it. But it's getting lapped up and regurgiated by real people who demand action. And in turn the people who do believe it are getting elected to school boards, city councils, state legislatures, governors offices, US Congress in growing numbers. It's gonna get worse before it gets better.

It's no accident that 1 in 4 of Trump's fundraising emails since the beginning of the year mention George Soros, often in the email title.

He and his people know what they are doing.

Yes, the tail is actually wagging the dog, though.
The Fox reaction is in black and white, changing their programming narrative to appease the viewers' worst instincts.

The 'algorithm' of social media rewards the most incendiary 'content', regardless of truth, but the Fox choice is explicit.

The implication of how politicians are seeing their reward systems is driving actual policy implementation, particularly effectively at the state level, with these governors who have national aspirations trying to out "perform" each other in their signaling.

But with real impact.

The war on public education is aimed at creating, exploiting and fund-raising off of cultural division. And the states are just the laboratories for "don't say gay," allegations of "grooming," elimination of uncomfortable history lessons, etc. And here, on a board supposedly devoted to lacrosse, we have posters who don't want their little flowers exposed to the historical trials of western expansion and the placing of Native Americans in camps. The campaign is "hate directed against anything that makes white culture uncomfortable.

Odd dynamic in play right now.

The right has super sore feelings when real colonial history is exposed and reported. But they are often the ones calling people delicate snowflakes.
AND
The left does everything to ensure absolutely no one's feelings, culture or identities are trampled in today's world. Except for white culture.

kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 3:14 pm Odd dynamic in play right now.

The right has super sore feelings when real colonial history is exposed and reported. But they are often the ones calling people delicate snowflakes.
AND
The left does everything to ensure absolutely no one's feelings, culture or identities are trampled in today's world. Except for white culture.

I'm curious, what white culture is being trampled on in today's world in a meangingful way?

kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 3:14 pm Odd dynamic in play right now.

The right has super sore feelings when real colonial history is exposed and reported. But they are often the ones calling people delicate snowflakes.
AND
The left does everything to ensure absolutely no one's feelings, culture or identities are trampled in today's world. Except for white culture.

Help me here: what is "white culture?" I'm white, and wondering.

Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 1:27 pm The war on public education is aimed at creating, exploiting and fund-raising off of cultural division. And the states are just the laboratories for "don't say gay," allegations of "grooming," elimination of uncomfortable history lessons, etc. And here, on a board supposedly devoted to lacrosse, we have posters who don't want their little flowers exposed to the historical trials of western expansion and the placing of Native Americans in camps. The campaign is "hate directed against anything that makes white culture uncomfortable.

If there is a war on public education, the educators/school boards fired the first shot. Parents being concerned with educators doing the following created the push back, which I would not call a war but a reassertion of parental rights::

- Telling kids the world will end in ten years because of climate change.
- Sexualizing kids before they have reached the age where they could understand. Not teaching physics to second graders, are they?
- The whole trans movement and telling little kids to question their gender. Then purposefully keeping it from parents.
- Racializing everything to the point where kids hate each other.

If you're an adult, anything you do sexually with another consenting adult is none of my business. Leave the kids out of it.

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:19 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:49 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 5:19 pm Is this what they ultimately want?

https://twitter.com/_barringtonii/statu ... p6_4JgXSkQ

Who is "they"?

Pedophiles?

That is the real question here that YA never answered. Who is "they" to him? It's certainly not just some random dude in the video. YA has posted multiple times about LGBTQ people and pedophiles (ignoring other groups and pedophiles). So is his question actually "Is this what the LGBTQ+ ultimately want?"

That's the goal of that media movement to smear the trans and LGBT community, to "just ask questions." Just plant the seeds and get people talking. Any publicity is good. And in addition they imply or flat out accuse this entire group of being pedophiles.

In reality, the answer to YA's question is a simple no. It's not what "they ultimately want." Asked and answered. If he wanted to get into the weeds on age of consent of teenagers with their peers he would have lead with a very different link.

It's a hit job, plain and simple. And fits the thread's title.

I thought it was quite obvious. To even ask the question implies the basic understanding of who benefits from this type of logic. And your simplistic approach is laughable. Why?, because there is an entire arm of the DoJ AND the FBI, that deals with sex offenders and pedophilia.

Hit job by whom? Minimizing what the guy talks about in the clip, almost sounds like you agree with him.

get it to x wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:17 pm

Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 1:27 pm The war on public education is aimed at creating, exploiting and fund-raising off of cultural division. And the states are just the laboratories for "don't say gay," allegations of "grooming," elimination of uncomfortable history lessons, etc. And here, on a board supposedly devoted to lacrosse, we have posters who don't want their little flowers exposed to the historical trials of western expansion and the placing of Native Americans in camps. The campaign is "hate directed against anything that makes white culture uncomfortable.

If there is a war on public education, the educators/school boards fired the first shot. Parents being concerned with educators doing the following created the push back, which I would not call a war but a reassertion of parental rights::

- Telling kids the world will end in ten years because of climate change.
- Sexualizing kids before they have reached the age where they could understand. Not teaching physics to second graders, are they?
- The whole trans movement and telling little kids to question their gender. Then purposefully keeping it from parents.
- Racializing everything to the point where kids hate each other.

If you're an adult, anything you do sexually with another consenting adult is none of my business. Leave the kids out of it.

sigh...what are "parental rights"... in education?

On what basis are these "rights" derived?

Do you mean that parents have a "right" to "indoctrinate" or otherwise treat their children however they wish, regardless of harm?

Is there no public interest when it comes to children?

I suspect we'd quite agree that "indoctrinating" children of a majority group to hate those of a minority group on the basis of their skin color, or that an adult's choice of sexual preference or gender identification is a sin and they will and should go to hell, or that violence against those we disagree or 'hate', and have relative power to, is appropriate in a democracy...or, we could go on and on...would be inappropriate whether coming from parent or school. Right?

So, too, we can imagine various converse scenarios that would be objectionable from the point of view of the public interest.

When I hear "parental rights" when applied to these sorts of topics, I hear generations of indoctrination that I'd bet most on here would find more than merely uncomfortable, they'd find it abhorrent. All in the supposed name of "parental control" or "parental rights".

The scenarios you paint above, get it to X, I'd argue are Not in the public interest...at least as you paint them.

But when does this "radicalizing" really happen when it comes to say, race in American history?
Who gets to say what is "radicalizing", the Neo-nazi parents?

What's actually "radical" about wanting to be sure that black and brown and white children learn that American history includes racist laws and practices impacting many generations of America, and that, nevertheless, Americans who were subject to these laws and practices persevered to help build a better and better America...is that "radical"??? Well, it sure as heck was when I was in elementary school. Indeed, it wasn't until 1967 when I was 10 that miscegenation laws were ruled unconstitutional...I remember discussing this with my parents and my father making a comment "birds of a feather flock together"...we had the same conversation just a few years later, maybe at age 14 or 15, and I told him how repugnant that logic was...he agreed. Times change, thank goodness.

I suspect we'll be looking back at issues like gay marriage (you know, 2 mommies or 2 daddies) in a few decades and wonder what all the fuss was about...unless you were part of a family just a few years ago going through the trauma of being denied such loving family commitments; something not guaranteed constitutionally until 2015 and not legislatively endorsed until 2022...last year!!

Is it "radical" for educators to want to be sure that children with same-sex parents are recognized as 'equal' in the eyes of their classmates?

Who gets to say, homophobic parents exercising their "parental rights"?

Likewise, I suspect we'll wonder what all the fuss was over gender identification...

But hey, just like the "Defense of Marriage Act" (which was ruled unconstitutional in 2013) needed to be rejected and replaced (last year by the Respect for Marriage Act), so too are bills claiming to be about "parental rights" to be informed by educators if their child has expressed an interest in a different pronoun being used by their teachers and classmates...even if the educator thinks the child may be in harm's way at home from such informing...

youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:48 pm

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:19 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:49 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 5:19 pm Is this what they ultimately want?

https://twitter.com/_barringtonii/statu ... p6_4JgXSkQ

Who is "they"?

Pedophiles?

That is the real question here that YA never answered. Who is "they" to him? It's certainly not just some random dude in the video. YA has posted multiple times about LGBTQ people and pedophiles (ignoring other groups and pedophiles). So is his question actually "Is this what the LGBTQ+ ultimately want?"

That's the goal of that media movement to smear the trans and LGBT community, to "just ask questions." Just plant the seeds and get people talking. Any publicity is good. And in addition they imply or flat out accuse this entire group of being pedophiles.

In reality, the answer to YA's question is a simple no. It's not what "they ultimately want." Asked and answered. If he wanted to get into the weeds on age of consent of teenagers with their peers he would have lead with a very different link.

It's a hit job, plain and simple. And fits the thread's title.

I thought it was quite obvious. To even ask the question implies the basic understanding of who benefits from this type of logic. And your simplistic approach is laughable. Why?, because there is an entire arm of the DoJ AND the FBI, that deals with sex offenders and pedophilia.

Hit job by whom? Minimizing what the guy talks about in the clip, almost sounds like you agree with him.

I repeat: who is "they" ?

I watched the clip, and responded, I think thoughtfully, to its content. Not just this question...

But what's your answer to my question?

get it to x wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:17 pm

Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 1:27 pm The war on public education is aimed at creating, exploiting and fund-raising off of cultural division. And the states are just the laboratories for "don't say gay," allegations of "grooming," elimination of uncomfortable history lessons, etc. And here, on a board supposedly devoted to lacrosse, we have posters who don't want their little flowers exposed to the historical trials of western expansion and the placing of Native Americans in camps. The campaign is "hate directed against anything that makes white culture uncomfortable.

If there is a war on public education, the educators/school boards fired the first shot. Parents being concerned with educators doing the following created the push back, which I would not call a war but a reassertion of parental rights::

- Telling kids the world will end in ten years because of climate change.
- Sexualizing kids before they have reached the age where they could understand. Not teaching physics to second graders, are they?
- The whole trans movement and telling little kids to question their gender. Then purposefully keeping it from parents.
- Racializing everything to the point where kids hate each other.

Do you have kids in K-12? None of this is happening in my daughter's school.

get it to x wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:17 pm If you're an adult, anything you do sexually with another consenting adult is none of my business. Leave the kids out of it.

Then why did they have school dances when you and I were kids? I had one in 7th grade, FFS.

I took Home Economics in HS. The female teacher pulled me aside after the first day, demanding to know why I was in the class. I was the only male.

What business was it of hers to decide that I can't take that class because I'm a man? Yet she did it.

We've been indoctrinating our kids in Schools to fit into societal norms since public (and private) schools were invented. Girls pushed away from STEM by teachers was perfectly normal in the 50's and 60's....and later, in many schools. No one thought to complain.

This is not a new thing. The only difference is, kids now learn that not everyone is heterosexual. They weren't taught that when you and I were in school. But we WERE taught about sex ed, birds and bees, heterosexual-ONLY when we were kids. That's "indoctrination", too. And straight kids were the ones that were taught to "hate each other", as you put it. In this case: hate the gays.

Can't have it both ways. It's like gay marriage. The REAL problem there? Americans CHOSE to involve the government as to who can and can't get married. If they would have left the .gov out of it altogether, and left it up to Churches? We'd be all set from the get-go. Instead, we CHOSE to use the State to FORCE citizens to do as the State wanted, instead of allowing the people to do whatever they d*mn well pleased....which is a VERY conservative value.

If you wanted to keep sex or sexual orientation out of schools? Don't have school dances. Don't teach about families. Don't literally teach Sex Ed.

We did ALL of these things at school when you and I were kids. Everyone survived. Well....most of them did......

youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:48 pm I thought it was quite obvious. To even ask the question implies the basic understanding of who benefits from this type of logic. And your simplistic approach is laughable. Why?, because there is an entire arm of the DoJ AND the FBI, that deals with sex offenders and pedophilia.

Hit job by whom? Minimizing what the guy talks about in the clip, almost sounds like you agree with him.

Hit job by you trying to paint the LGBTQ community as pedophiles or them wanting 9 year olds to be able to consent to sex with adults. No, that is not what they ultimately want.

And no, I don't think that nine year olds can give informed consent to adults. Is that simplistic and laughable enough for you? Would you like to have an adult conversation about age of consent between near-peers?

I'm aware of law enforcement dealing with sex offenders and pedophilia. They seem to arrest a ton of Republicans too...

youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:48 pm I thought it was quite obvious. To even ask the question implies the basic understanding of who benefits from this type of logic

Is the answer Pedophiles? Because that's what you appear to be saying.

But my question is: why did you put this in the "Hate Directed at the LGBTQ" thread?

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:06 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:48 pm

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:19 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:49 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 5:19 pm Is this what they ultimately want?

https://twitter.com/_barringtonii/statu ... p6_4JgXSkQ

Who is "they"?

Pedophiles?

That is the real question here that YA never answered. Who is "they" to him? It's certainly not just some random dude in the video. YA has posted multiple times about LGBTQ people and pedophiles (ignoring other groups and pedophiles). So is his question actually "Is this what the LGBTQ+ ultimately want?"

That's the goal of that media movement to smear the trans and LGBT community, to "just ask questions." Just plant the seeds and get people talking. Any publicity is good. And in addition they imply or flat out accuse this entire group of being pedophiles.

In reality, the answer to YA's question is a simple no. It's not what "they ultimately want." Asked and answered. If he wanted to get into the weeds on age of consent of teenagers with their peers he would have lead with a very different link.

It's a hit job, plain and simple. And fits the thread's title.

I thought it was quite obvious. To even ask the question implies the basic understanding of who benefits from this type of logic. And your simplistic approach is laughable. Why?, because there is an entire arm of the DoJ AND the FBI, that deals with sex offenders and pedophilia.

Hit job by whom? Minimizing what the guy talks about in the clip, almost sounds like you agree with him.

I repeat: who is "they" ?

I watched the clip, and responded, I think thoughtfully, to its content. Not just this question...

But what's your answer to my question?

Good Lord, Pedophiles. Was it not Obvious.

a fan wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:11 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:48 pm I thought it was quite obvious. To even ask the question implies the basic understanding of who benefits from this type of logic

Is the answer Pedophiles? Because that's what you appear to be saying.

But my question is: why did you put this in the "Hate Directed at the LGBTQ" thread?

Because I did not want to start a Pedophile thread and there are plenty of posts in this thread, and others, about children.