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Re: FanLax Forum Poll
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:13 pm
by Wheels
Matnum PI wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 8:39 am
Polls are due today at noon EST.
Matt...when I submitted mine, I didn't get a "ranking submitted." Instead, the screen reset to all of the empty ranking fields. So I don't know if my rankings got in yesterday when I submitted.
Re: FanLax Forum Poll
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:19 pm
by Matnum PI
Wheels wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:13 pm
Matnum PI wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 8:39 am
Polls are due today at noon EST.
Matt...when I submitted mine, I didn't get a "ranking submitted." Instead, the screen reset to all of the empty ranking fields. So I don't know if my rankings got in yesterday when I submitted.
You're good...
Re: FanLax Forum Poll
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:21 pm
by Matnum PI
D1 MEN: FanLax Forum Poll (02/28/22)
FANLAX FORUM
1 Maryland
2 Georgetown
3 Virginia
4 Rutgers
5 Ohio St.
6 Penn
7 North Carolina
8 Jacksonville
9 Notre Dame
10 Duke
11 Cornell
12 Army West Point
13 Johns Hopkins
14 Syracuse
15 Princeton
16 Yale
17 Delaware
18 Hobart
19 Brown
20 Michigan
21 Boston U.
22 Denver
23 Richmond
24 Bucknell
25 Villanova
Stony Brook
High Point
Saint Joseph's
Utah
Lehigh
Loyola Maryland
Penn St.
Navy
More Details including individual post-ers polls...
Re: FanLax Forum Poll
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2022 1:47 pm
by HGK
The disparity of opinion with Cornell is amazing.
Re: FanLax Forum Poll
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2022 1:50 pm
by Matnum PI
HGK wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 1:47 pm
The disparity of opinion with Cornell is amazing.
true. From a high of 6 to a low of 20.
Re: FanLax Forum Poll
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2022 1:58 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
Matnum PI wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 1:50 pm
HGK wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 1:47 pm
The disparity of opinion with Cornell is amazing.
true. From a high of 6 to a low of 20.
I noticed the same thing…..maybe too optimistic and too pessimistic. Will sort itself out in the next week.
Re: FanLax Forum Poll
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:44 pm
by HGK
My guess is ultimately they are closer to 6 than 20.
Re: FanLax Forum Poll
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:48 pm
by rolldodge
HGK wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:44 pm
My guess is ultimately they are closer to 6 than 20.
Lacrosse Reference seems to think so too.
Re: FanLax Forum Poll
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:51 pm
by runrussellrun
rolldodge wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:48 pm
HGK wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:44 pm
My guess is ultimately they are closer to 6 than 20.
Lacrosse Reference seems to think so too.
lax reference makes no mention of Hopkins, at all.
Yet, care to explain why you have them in the top 10 ?
Can it be right about Cornell, wrong about.....
Re: FanLax Forum Poll
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:53 pm
by rolldodge
runrussellrun wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:51 pm
rolldodge wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:48 pm
HGK wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:44 pm
My guess is ultimately they are closer to 6 than 20.
Lacrosse Reference seems to think so too.
lax reference makes no mention of Hopkins, at all.
Yet, care to explain why you have them in the top 10 ?
Can it be right about Cornell, wrong about.....
I used a different set of criteria to create my poll. I had Cornell at 12. My poll did not include data that would project future performance. Hopkins is in my top 10 on the strength of a top 10 win over Jacksonville.
Re: FanLax Forum Poll
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:55 pm
by runrussellrun
rolldodge wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:53 pm
runrussellrun wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:51 pm
rolldodge wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:48 pm
HGK wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:44 pm
My guess is ultimately they are closer to 6 than 20.
Lacrosse Reference seems to think so too.
lax reference makes no mention of Hopkins, at all.
Yet, care to explain why you have them in the top 10 ?
Can it be right about Cornell, wrong about.....
I used a different set of criteria to create my poll. I had Cornell at 12. My poll did not include data that would project future performance.
Criteria for Hopkins at # 8 ?
Re: FanLax Forum Poll
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:55 pm
by rolldodge
runrussellrun wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:55 pm
rolldodge wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:53 pm
runrussellrun wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:51 pm
rolldodge wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:48 pm
HGK wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:44 pm
My guess is ultimately they are closer to 6 than 20.
Lacrosse Reference seems to think so too.
lax reference makes no mention of Hopkins, at all.
Yet, care to explain why you have them in the top 10 ?
Can it be right about Cornell, wrong about.....
I used a different set of criteria to create my poll. I had Cornell at 12. My poll did not include data that would project future performance.
Criteria for Hopkins at # 8 ?
Hopkins is in my top 10 on the strength of a top 10 win over Jacksonville. If I were to project into the future, I wouldn't bet on them staying there long.
Re: FanLax Forum Poll
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:23 pm
by Matnum PI
rolldodge wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:53 pmMy poll did not include data that would project future performance...
Hear, hear...
Re: FanLax Forum Poll
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:31 pm
by 10stone5
Matnum PI wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:23 pm
rolldodge wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:53 pmMy poll did not include data that would project future performance...
Hear, hear...
Why not,
aren’t we all drinking the kool aid regularly here
at FanLax
Re: FanLax Forum Poll
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:44 pm
by Matnum PI
The FanLax Computer Rankings are based on each team's Three Best Wins and Three Worst Losses. Some teams (like the Ivies) haven't played enough games to have their Three Wins and other teams just have rough schedules so they don't have three wins yet. For these teams that are at a distinct disadvantage within this ranking, they are marked with an asterisks to show that they're currently being weighed down by their lack of Three Wins. None the less, Team Rankings based on each teams Best Wins and Worst Losses...
1 Georgetown
2 Maryland
3 North Carolina
4 Virginia
5 Johns Hopkins
6 Duke
7 Jacksonville
8 Rutgers
9 Ohio State
10 Delaware
11 Boston University
12 Cornell*
13 Bucknell
14 High Point*
15 Stony Brook
16 Saint Joseph's
17 Penn**
18 Denver
19 Richmond*
20 Michigan
21 Princeton*
22 Hobart*
23 Army
24 Utah*
25 Brown*
Re: FanLax Forum Poll
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:44 pm
by Matnum PI
Matnum PI wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:44 pm
12 Cornell*
Cornell at 12 and will be higher when they get their 3rd win...
Re: FanLax Forum Poll
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:02 pm
by rolldodge
Matnum PI wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:44 pm
The FanLax Computer Rankings are based on each team's Three Best Wins and Three Worst Losses. Some teams (like the Ivies) haven't played enough games to have their Three Wins and other teams just have rough schedules so they don't have three wins yet. For these teams that are at a distinct disadvantage within this ranking, they are marked with an asterisks to show that they're currently being weighed down by their lack of Three Wins. None the less, Team Rankings based on each teams Best Wins and Worst Losses...
1 Georgetown
2 Maryland
3 North Carolina
4 Virginia
5 Johns Hopkins
6 Duke
7 Jacksonville
8 Rutgers
9 Ohio State
10 Delaware
11 Boston University
12 Cornell*
13 Bucknell
14 High Point*
15 Stony Brook
16 Saint Joseph's
17 Penn**
18 Denver
19 Richmond*
20 Michigan
21 Princeton*
22 Hobart*
23 Army
24 Utah*
25 Brown*
I like your ranking methodology and it inspired my own ... but I'm struggling to understand how you applied it. For example, why is High Point so high at 14? Are you valuing losing to highly ranked teams?
Re: FanLax Forum Poll
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:25 pm
by HGK
Depending on outcomes of a few games tomorrow, it could get even more muddled in that 10-20 bucket.
Re: FanLax Forum Poll
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:28 pm
by Farfromgeneva
Matnum PI wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:44 pm
Matnum PI wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:44 pm
12 Cornell*
Cornell at 12 and will be higher when they get their 3rd win...
Won't be tomorrow!
Re: FanLax Forum Poll
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:09 pm
by Matnum PI
rolldodge wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:02 pm
why is High Point so high at 14? Are you valuing losing to highly ranked teams?
There's nothing positive about a loss. Even to a highly ranked team. Only that losing to a highly ranked is less negative than losing to a lower-ranked team. As for High Point, they're ranked well because they beat Navy and Colgate. Two teams that aren't great but better than many other teams' wins.