All things CoronaVirus

[runrussellrun]

TLD, et all.

You are ALL so sure that social distancing/distortion is 100% the reason WHY the "curve" is flattening? If not 100%, what percentage?

Sorry, some of those in the US would like to know. So glad Liberia is just like the USA....in THIS instance. Right?

Remember, we are ALL descendants of Noah....and his Ark. Correct ? That's what everyone "believes". Right? That YOUR god killed everyone on earth. Everyone. 5 month olds. Talk about the blood of innocents....wt heck do you people believe.

Guess the trives of the Amazon didn't get the NOah memo....

[runrussellrun]

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-res ... distancing

Thanks. Great opinion. So, the current members of TAATS, or Obama for that matter, just ignored the agency's advise (NIH) ?

What slowed the pandemic's in 2009 & 2012 ? Maybe you social distorted, anyone else?

exactly

[Typical Lax Dad]

TLD, et all.

You are ALL so sure that social distancing/distortion is 100% the reason WHY the "curve" is flattening? If not 100%, what percentage?

Sorry, some of those in the US would like to know. So glad Liberia is just like the USA....in THIS instance. Right?

Remember, we are ALL descendants of Noah....and his Ark. Correct ? That's what everyone "believes". Right? That YOUR god killed everyone on earth. Everyone. 5 month olds. Talk about the blood of innocents....wt heck do you people believe.

Guess the trives of the Amazon didn't get the NOah memo....

I don’t know the “exactly” answer. Data (and common sense) suggest social distancing has helped. One thing I have always said...facts won’t change someone’s belief. You should know that.

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-res ... distancing

Thanks. Great opinion. So, the current members of TAATS, or Obama for that matter, just ignored the agency's advise (NIH) ?

What slowed the pandemic's in 2009 & 2012 ? Maybe you social distorted, anyone else?

exactly

You still upset at Cottle because UMd didn’t win last year. Obama Administration dropped the ball when they farmed out the effort to build a national ventilator stockpile. Our government leaders led us down. Your guy fumbled the ball on the last drive, but you are upset that Edelman missed a block three years ago.

[Nigel]

Love to see this country slow down.
Hope everyone is safe.
Happy Easter to all!

Amen!

not cool being gender specific. shouldn't it be: Awomen?

But, in all seriousness, what does he mean by "slow down" ?

I took at as meaning...we all need to stop and smell the roses, stop rushing here and there and getting no where. Spend more time spending more time with each other, etc.

As I noted a couple weeks ago, I have been able to to stop taking my low dosage ACE for over a week now...simply by having more time for me and less chaos at work each day.

Yup, interpreted it the same. Spending a little more time with one another at a slower pace isn't a bad thing. Sometimes even all by myself is highly entertaining.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycA0hMp ... YQ&index=5
You're welcome.

Nice DMac! I'm a big fan of alone time!

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/03/31/us- ... break.html

What does he know. He is just a government mouthpiece

[runrussellrun]

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-res ... distancing

Thanks. Great opinion. So, the current members of TAATS, or Obama for that matter, just ignored the agency's advise (NIH) ?

What slowed the pandemic's in 2009 & 2012 ? Maybe you social distorted, anyone else?

exactly

You still upset at Cottle because UMd didn’t win last year. Obama Administration dropped the ball when they farmed out the effort to build a national ventilator stockpile. Our government leaders led us down. Your guy fumbled the ball on the last drive, but you are upset that Edelman missed a block three years ago.

sugar HIGH.........I get that is what you are on write now. Good idea, mite be a lil early for MY type of chocolates....but what could wrong replacing the outboards impellors, when HIGH on edible.

stop with this foolish, "my guy". It's truly asinine to parlay any questioning of this social distortion, into a love fest for the current POTUSA.
If ADMIN won't do it.....I will. (create poster BIO's )

case in point....YOU give money to mr. commie himself, mitch "comsteen" mcKonnel, and his lovely wife (WHO is her father again ???? )......or, do YOU (collective) give money/support to the person that IS running against him? Hmmm.....why is that? You think any of the pretends even know who the heck I am talking about? exactly

so, again, just stop with the boring stuff. tRump ain't my guy. but, you know that.

[Peter Brown]

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/03/31/us- ... break.html

What does he know. He is just a government mouthpiece

I believe everyone is on board that Fauci is a competent human being. But it's one thing to respect his views on the virus, and another to assume he knows what is also best for every human being out there. This is a confusing puzzle of variable inputs; we can not simply overlook how desperate people are now, and how much more desperate they are about to get. We might not have 1 more month to stave off civil unrest. And that is coming if we go one more month without competent dissemination of cash especially to those who absolutely need it. Many people who post here obviously can withstand 2 or even 12 months of economic malaise...that is not true for the overwhelming majority of Americans. This puzzle is not as simple as saying 'we need to socially distance until whenever'. Civil unrest is right around the corner.

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-res ... distancing

Thanks. Great opinion. So, the current members of TAATS, or Obama for that matter, just ignored the agency's advise (NIH) ?

What slowed the pandemic's in 2009 & 2012 ? Maybe you social distorted, anyone else?

exactly

You still upset at Cottle because UMd didn’t win last year. Obama Administration dropped the ball when they farmed out the effort to build a national ventilator stockpile. Our government leaders led us down. Your guy fumbled the ball on the last drive, but you are upset that Edelman missed a block three years ago.

sugar HIGH.........I get that is what you are on write now. Good idea, mite be a lil early for MY type of chocolates....but what could wrong replacing the outboards impellors, when HIGH on edible.

stop with this foolish, "my guy". It's truly asinine to parlay any questioning of this social distortion, into a love fest for the current POTUSA.
If ADMIN won't do it.....I will. (create poster BIO's )

case in point....YOU give money to mr. commie himself, mitch "comsteen" mcKonnel, and his lovely wife (WHO is her father again ???? )......or, do YOU (collective) give money/support to the person that IS running against him? Hmmm.....why is that? You think any of the pretends even know who the heck I am talking about? exactly

so, again, just stop with the boring stuff. tRump ain't my guy. but, you know that.

You mean he ain’t your guy but..... enjoy your day.

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/03/31/us- ... break.html

What does he know. He is just a government mouthpiece

I believe everyone is on board that Fauci is a competent human being. But it's one thing to respect his views on the virus, and another to assume he knows what is also best for every human being out there. This is a confusing puzzle of variable inputs; we can not simply overlook how desperate people are now, and how much more desperate they are about to get. We might not have 1 more month to stave off civil unrest. And that is coming if we go one more month without competent dissemination of cash especially to those who absolutely need it. Many people who post here obviously can withstand 2 or even 12 months of economic malaise...that is not true for the overwhelming majority of Americans. This puzzle is not as simple as saying 'we need to socially distance until whenever'. Civil unrest is right around the corner.

We are in a bad spot because your guy made some bad decisions. Had we got right on top of it and had been better prepared we would have had a chance to be in and out of it sooner. My guess is we start to transition at the end of May. I don’t know who said we are like this from now on. We are like this in order to get our arms around it. Hopefully we are better prepared next time. It’s your guy’s fault. Back to timeout for you. Enjoy your day.

[runrussellrun]

but....what?

Go on, TLD, go on. You are implying what?

You read the $2 trillion bill, yet, TLD? I posted it the other day?

If not, why not?

we ALL get it.....tRump is a cad. Yes, and it's daytime. Move on.........have you no other stories or thoughts beyond 'tRump stinks".

WE get it.....but, so does Biden. Thanks Democrats.

[dislaxxic]

How the Pandemic Will End [The Atlantic]

"Even a perfect response won’t end the pandemic. As long as the virus persists somewhere, there’s a chance that one infected traveler will reignite fresh sparks in countries that have already extinguished their fires. This is already happening in China, Singapore, and other Asian countries that briefly seemed to have the virus under control. Under these conditions, there are three possible endgames: one that’s very unlikely, one that’s very dangerous, and one that’s very long.

The first is that every nation manages to simultaneously bring the virus to heel, as with the original SARS in 2003. Given how widespread the coronavirus pandemic is, and how badly many countries are faring, the odds of worldwide synchronous control seem vanishingly small.

The second is that the virus does what past flu pandemics have done: It burns through the world and leaves behind enough immune survivors that it eventually struggles to find viable hosts. This “herd immunity” scenario would be quick, and thus tempting. But it would also come at a terrible cost: SARS-CoV-2 is more transmissible and fatal than the flu, and it would likely leave behind many millions of corpses and a trail of devastated health systems. The United Kingdom initially seemed to consider this herd-immunity strategy, before backtracking when models revealed the dire consequences. The U.S. now seems to be considering it too.

The third scenario is that the world plays a protracted game of whack-a-mole with the virus, stamping out outbreaks here and there until a vaccine can be produced. This is the best option, but also the longest and most complicated.

It depends, for a start, on making a vaccine. If this were a flu pandemic, that would be easier. The world is experienced at making flu vaccines and does so every year. But there are no existing vaccines for coronaviruses—until now, these viruses seemed to cause diseases that were mild or rare—so researchers must start from scratch. The first steps have been impressively quick. Last Monday, a possible vaccine created by Moderna and the National Institutes of Health went into early clinical testing. That marks a 63-day gap between scientists sequencing the virus’s genes for the first time and doctors injecting a vaccine candidate into a person’s arm. “It’s overwhelmingly the world record,” Fauci said.

But it’s also the fastest step among many subsequent slow ones. The initial trial will simply tell researchers if the vaccine seems safe, and if it can actually mobilize the immune system. Researchers will then need to check that it actually prevents infection from SARS-CoV-2. They’ll need to do animal tests and large-scale trials to ensure that the vaccine doesn’t cause severe side effects. They’ll need to work out what dose is required, how many shots people need, if the vaccine works in elderly people, and if it requires other chemicals to boost its effectiveness."

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[kramerica.inc]

When I hear the term “Slow down” I think we should do things like prioritize our health, our family, our friends and helping others in our neighborhood.

Less running around, less of a grind.

Hoping to see things as- companies move to 32 hour work weeks and/or keep it as is and add 1-2 remote days. Cutting to 32 hours? Take those scaled-down hours and hire more people.
Add remote capabilities for schools. Including colleges.
Not feeling well? Stay home.
Stop running and spinning wheels. ie- Kids don’t need to play in 8 club leagues, and drive 4 hours each weekend for sports.
Learn local, play local, buy local, be local.
Enjoy life, not just a hectic routine.

[runrussellrun]

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/03/31/us- ... break.html

What does he know. He is just a government mouthpiece

I believe everyone is on board that Fauci is a competent human being. But it's one thing to respect his views on the virus, and another to assume he knows what is also best for every human being out there. This is a confusing puzzle of variable inputs; we can not simply overlook how desperate people are now, and how much more desperate they are about to get. We might not have 1 more month to stave off civil unrest. And that is coming if we go one more month without competent dissemination of cash especially to those who absolutely need it. Many people who post here obviously can withstand 2 or even 12 months of economic malaise...that is not true for the overwhelming majority of Americans. This puzzle is not as simple as saying 'we need to socially distance until whenever'. Civil unrest is right around the corner.

We are in a bad spot because your guy made some bad decisions. Had we got right on top of it and had been better prepared we would have had a chance to be in and out of it sooner. My guess is we start to transition at the end of May. I don’t know who said we are like this from now on. We are like this in order to get our arms around it. Hopefully we are better prepared next time. It’s your guy’s fault. Back to timeout for you. Enjoy your day.

THis is a complete joke. Out of one side of you mouths, you point to " the entire world is doing it " . (social distortion).......yet completely ignore all the others, who did NOTHING to "warn" us about the potential problems.

What happened on March 11th ? You feel confident in the leadership at the World Health Organization ? That is when THEY made the call. And it's their JOB. Where the F was bill gates and the lamstream medias massive coverage of EVENT 201 ? or, the one W.H.O. ran in December ? Or, was bill pushing his Xbox 13 video game device? that IS a macrohard product, is it not?

[Typical Lax Dad]

How the Pandemic Will End [The Atlantic]

"Even a perfect response won’t end the pandemic. As long as the virus persists somewhere, there’s a chance that one infected traveler will reignite fresh sparks in countries that have already extinguished their fires. This is already happening in China, Singapore, and other Asian countries that briefly seemed to have the virus under control. Under these conditions, there are three possible endgames: one that’s very unlikely, one that’s very dangerous, and one that’s very long.

The first is that every nation manages to simultaneously bring the virus to heel, as with the original SARS in 2003. Given how widespread the coronavirus pandemic is, and how badly many countries are faring, the odds of worldwide synchronous control seem vanishingly small.

The second is that the virus does what past flu pandemics have done: It burns through the world and leaves behind enough immune survivors that it eventually struggles to find viable hosts. This “herd immunity” scenario would be quick, and thus tempting. But it would also come at a terrible cost: SARS-CoV-2 is more transmissible and fatal than the flu, and it would likely leave behind many millions of corpses and a trail of devastated health systems. The United Kingdom initially seemed to consider this herd-immunity strategy, before backtracking when models revealed the dire consequences. The U.S. now seems to be considering it too.

The third scenario is that the world plays a protracted game of whack-a-mole with the virus, stamping out outbreaks here and there until a vaccine can be produced. This is the best option, but also the longest and most complicated.

It depends, for a start, on making a vaccine. If this were a flu pandemic, that would be easier. The world is experienced at making flu vaccines and does so every year. But there are no existing vaccines for coronaviruses—until now, these viruses seemed to cause diseases that were mild or rare—so researchers must start from scratch. The first steps have been impressively quick. Last Monday, a possible vaccine created by Moderna and the National Institutes of Health went into early clinical testing. That marks a 63-day gap between scientists sequencing the virus’s genes for the first time and doctors injecting a vaccine candidate into a person’s arm. “It’s overwhelmingly the world record,” Fauci said.

But it’s also the fastest step among many subsequent slow ones. The initial trial will simply tell researchers if the vaccine seems safe, and if it can actually mobilize the immune system. Researchers will then need to check that it actually prevents infection from SARS-CoV-2. They’ll need to do animal tests and large-scale trials to ensure that the vaccine doesn’t cause severe side effects. They’ll need to work out what dose is required, how many shots people need, if the vaccine works in elderly people, and if it requires other chemicals to boost its effectiveness."

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I will be on a call with a company working on a treatment early next month. Hopefully it’s promising. A flu vaccine is usually good for three months. Maybe a new vaccine will be longer lasting or require a boost. Hopefully we get our arms around it sooner rather than later.

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/03/31/us- ... break.html

What does he know. He is just a government mouthpiece

I believe everyone is on board that Fauci is a competent human being. But it's one thing to respect his views on the virus, and another to assume he knows what is also best for every human being out there. This is a confusing puzzle of variable inputs; we can not simply overlook how desperate people are now, and how much more desperate they are about to get. We might not have 1 more month to stave off civil unrest. And that is coming if we go one more month without competent dissemination of cash especially to those who absolutely need it. Many people who post here obviously can withstand 2 or even 12 months of economic malaise...that is not true for the overwhelming majority of Americans. This puzzle is not as simple as saying 'we need to socially distance until whenever'. Civil unrest is right around the corner.

We are in a bad spot because your guy made some bad decisions. Had we got right on top of it and had been better prepared we would have had a chance to be in and out of it sooner. My guess is we start to transition at the end of May. I don’t know who said we are like this from now on. We are like this in order to get our arms around it. Hopefully we are better prepared next time. It’s your guy’s fault. Back to timeout for you. Enjoy your day.

THis is a complete joke. Out of one side of you mouths, you point to " the entire world is doing it " . (social distortion).......yet completely ignore all the others, who did NOTHING to "warn" us about the potential problems.

What happened on March 11th ? You feel confident in the leadership at the World Health Organization ? That is when THEY made the call. And it's their JOB. Where the F was bill gates and the lamstream medias massive coverage of EVENT 201 ? or, the one W.H.O. ran in December ? Or, was bill pushing his Xbox 13 video game device? that IS a macrohard product, is it not?

Yawn... who in the WHO did you vote for? Who told you to vote for Bill? Taking my dog for a walk. I have to get my mask. You can wait in the Emergecy Room lobby at the Shattuck without one on this week.

[Peter Brown]

but....what?

Go on, TLD, go on. You are implying what?

You read the $2 trillion bill, yet, TLD? I posted it the other day?

If not, why not?

we ALL get it.....tRump is a cad. Yes, and it's daytime. Move on.........have you no other stories or thoughts beyond 'tRump stinks".

WE get it.....but, so does Biden. Thanks Democrats.

TLD has found the answer: Trump. I swear, no matter what happens, it's always on Trump. Not even certain why we bother here...

[Typical Lax Dad]

This dude is lying: https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/12/politics ... index.html

As my father used to say....penny wise and pound foolish....

[MDlaxfan76]

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/03/31/us- ... break.html

What does he know. He is just a government mouthpiece

I believe everyone is on board that Fauci is a competent human being. But it's one thing to respect his views on the virus, and another to assume he knows what is also best for every human being out there. This is a confusing puzzle of variable inputs; we can not simply overlook how desperate people are now, and how much more desperate they are about to get. We might not have 1 more month to stave off civil unrest. And that is coming if we go one more month without competent dissemination of cash especially to those who absolutely need it. Many people who post here obviously can withstand 2 or even 12 months of economic malaise...that is not true for the overwhelming majority of Americans. This puzzle is not as simple as saying 'we need to socially distance until whenever'. Civil unrest is right around the corner.

We are in a bad spot because your guy made some bad decisions. Had we got right on top of it and had been better prepared we would have had a chance to be in and out of it sooner. My guess is we start to transition at the end of May. I don’t know who said we are like this from now on. We are like this in order to get our arms around it. Hopefully we are better prepared next time. It’s your guy’s fault. Back to timeout for you. Enjoy your day.

Tapper asked Fauci a straight question, with the preamble that reporting was that the scientific team recommended physical distancing the third week of February, but why did the White House not offer that recommendation to the public until the 16th, close to month later?

Fauci effectively confirmed that was the case, "sometimes you offer recommendations but they aren't taken"...he danced around more when asked whether it would have made a difference in lives lost, but certainly didn't say no. It was clear that it did. And it's clear that the economic impact would have been less.

It's also clear that he's trying to figure out some way to let Trump release some sort of restrictions in May. It's clear that he doesn't think anything major in the way of restrictions should slow down until we're actually ready to test and contact trace broadly. and it's clear that we remain a long way from that point.

Face saving for Trump, but not anything that would actually invite a resurgence.

Fauci's in a tough position.
He wants to give the public the best advice he's allowed to give... without losing Trump in the process.

[runrussellrun]

How the Pandemic Will End [The Atlantic]

"Even a perfect response won’t end the pandemic. As long as the virus persists somewhere, there’s a chance that one infected traveler will reignite fresh sparks in countries that have already extinguished their fires. This is already happening in China, Singapore, and other Asian countries that briefly seemed to have the virus under control. Under these conditions, there are three possible endgames: one that’s very unlikely, one that’s very dangerous, and one that’s very long.

The first is that every nation manages to simultaneously bring the virus to heel, as with the original SARS in 2003. Given how widespread the coronavirus pandemic is, and how badly many countries are faring, the odds of worldwide synchronous control seem vanishingly small.

The second is that the virus does what past flu pandemics have done: It burns through the world and leaves behind enough immune survivors that it eventually struggles to find viable hosts. This “herd immunity” scenario would be quick, and thus tempting. But it would also come at a terrible cost: SARS-CoV-2 is more transmissible and fatal than the flu, and it would likely leave behind many millions of corpses and a trail of devastated health systems. The United Kingdom initially seemed to consider this herd-immunity strategy, before backtracking when models revealed the dire consequences. The U.S. now seems to be considering it too.

The third scenario is that the world plays a protracted game of whack-a-mole with the virus, stamping out outbreaks here and there until a vaccine can be produced. This is the best option, but also the longest and most complicated.

It depends, for a start, on making a vaccine. If this were a flu pandemic, that would be easier. The world is experienced at making flu vaccines and does so every year. But there are no existing vaccines for coronaviruses—until now, these viruses seemed to cause diseases that were mild or rare—so researchers must start from scratch. The first steps have been impressively quick. Last Monday, a possible vaccine created by Moderna and the National Institutes of Health went into early clinical testing. That marks a 63-day gap between scientists sequencing the virus’s genes for the first time and doctors injecting a vaccine candidate into a person’s arm. “It’s overwhelmingly the world record,” Fauci said.

But it’s also the fastest step among many subsequent slow ones. The initial trial will simply tell researchers if the vaccine seems safe, and if it can actually mobilize the immune system. Researchers will then need to check that it actually prevents infection from SARS-CoV-2. They’ll need to do animal tests and large-scale trials to ensure that the vaccine doesn’t cause severe side effects. They’ll need to work out what dose is required, how many shots people need, if the vaccine works in elderly people, and if it requires other chemicals to boost its effectiveness."

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Defense Logistics Agency......mentioned in the article. This IS the group that gave a private company (googlowe) cheap aviation fuel, no?

carry on....