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Re: IMPEACHMENT ...from Mueller to Ukraine to ??

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:17 am
by jhu72
tech37 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:08 am
Trinity wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:59 am We’re trusting the IG that it’s urgent and credible.
Yeah but you're kind of insane ;)
So are you ready for that civil war being threatened? :roll:

Re: IMPEACHMENT ...from Mueller to Ukraine to ??

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:19 am
by RedFromMI
A guide to the shady characters Giuliani is working with in Ukraine:

https://www.propublica.org/article/trum ... in-ukraine

Re: IMPEACHMENT ...from Mueller to Ukraine to ??

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:37 am
by tech37
jhu72 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:17 am
tech37 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:08 am
Trinity wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:59 am We’re trusting the IG that it’s urgent and credible.
Yeah but you're kind of insane ;)
So are you ready for that civil war being threatened? :roll:
Not surprised that one of the most extreme people on this board would post that...very typical :oops:

Re: IMPEACHMENT ...from Mueller to Ukraine to ??

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:38 am
by youthathletics
RedFromMI wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:19 am A guide to the shady characters Giuliani is working with in Ukraine:

https://www.propublica.org/article/trum ... in-ukraine
Kinda like the ones Hunter and Joe were working with? :lol:

Re: IMPEACHMENT ...from Mueller to Ukraine to ??

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:40 am
by Typical Lax Dad
tech37 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:58 am
seacoaster wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:18 am MDlaxfan writes: "So, when a President and his toadies attack the whistleblower as a spy deserving to be executed or otherwise threaten the wellbeing of the whistleblower, when Trump and his toadies threatens those evaluating the merits of the claims as 'traitors', when Trump and his toadies warn/threaten 'civil war', we are in extremely dangerous but highly predictable territory with this cat. The whistleblower and others have legitimate fear for their lives.

And how can we blame those who use 'leaking' when they have such fears if discovered, yet believe the truth will only be in the open if they take risk?

Thus, when other folks make fun of the process done legally, or seek to discredit those blowing the whistle or those evaluating the claims, it promotes leakers trying to get truth out into the public without their identity being discovered."

Exactly. Good post, as usual.
IF the WB turns out to be legit. As usual you guys are way out over your skis...

"checks and balances" never included "whistleblowers" did it? Seems to me WB is an incredibly slippery slope especially in our hyper-partisan times. The whole concept and any laws associated need to be completely reevaluated IMO.
IG is partisan?

Re: IMPEACHMENT ...from Mueller to Ukraine to ??

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:45 am
by jhu72
RedFromMI wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:19 am A guide to the shady characters Giuliani is working with in Ukraine:

https://www.propublica.org/article/trum ... in-ukraine
Does this come under the heading of draining the swamp? :lol:

Re: IMPEACHMENT ...from Mueller to Ukraine to ??

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:52 am
by tech37
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:40 am
tech37 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:58 am
seacoaster wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:18 am MDlaxfan writes: "So, when a President and his toadies attack the whistleblower as a spy deserving to be executed or otherwise threaten the wellbeing of the whistleblower, when Trump and his toadies threatens those evaluating the merits of the claims as 'traitors', when Trump and his toadies warn/threaten 'civil war', we are in extremely dangerous but highly predictable territory with this cat. The whistleblower and others have legitimate fear for their lives.

And how can we blame those who use 'leaking' when they have such fears if discovered, yet believe the truth will only be in the open if they take risk?

Thus, when other folks make fun of the process done legally, or seek to discredit those blowing the whistle or those evaluating the claims, it promotes leakers trying to get truth out into the public without their identity being discovered."

Exactly. Good post, as usual.
IF the WB turns out to be legit. As usual you guys are way out over your skis...

"checks and balances" never included "whistleblowers" did it? Seems to me WB is an incredibly slippery slope especially in our hyper-partisan times. The whole concept and any laws associated need to be completely reevaluated IMO.
IG is partisan?
Surely then you'll be accepting the results of IG Horowitz's inquiry.

Re: IMPEACHMENT ...from Mueller to Ukraine to ??

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:07 am
by RedFromMI
Reports that Pompeo forced Volker out when he found out State knew what Giuliani was doing in Ukraine:

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/pomp ... ng-mission

Not a good look for the SOS to be an active part of the conspiracy to dig dirt on Biden...

Re: IMPEACHMENT ...from Mueller to Ukraine to ??

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:22 am
by jhu72
tech37 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:37 am
jhu72 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:17 am
tech37 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:08 am
Trinity wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:59 am We’re trusting the IG that it’s urgent and credible.
Yeah but you're kind of insane ;)
So are you ready for that civil war being threatened? :roll:
Not surprised that one of the most extreme people on this board would post that...very typical :oops:
Other of Trump's supporters ("Deep State" delusionals) have gotten onboard already. The Oathkeepers have said they are ready. Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones, etc.

This is where we are. We ARE on the verge of a HOT civil war. Like in 1859. That’s where we are. And the Right has ZERO trust or respect for anything the left is doing. We see THEM as illegitimate too.@StewartRhodesOK

Aren't you afraid your "peers" will see you as lacking the appropriate fervor? ;)

Re: IMPEACHMENT ...from Mueller to Ukraine to ??

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:26 am
by foreverlax
youthathletics wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:38 am
RedFromMI wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:19 am A guide to the shady characters Giuliani is working with in Ukraine:

https://www.propublica.org/article/trum ... in-ukraine
Kinda like the ones Hunter and Joe were working with? :lol:
In no world does Biden get $50k a month in the real world. It may not be illegal, but it should be....optics matter.

Re: IMPEACHMENT ...from Mueller to Ukraine to ??

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:27 am
by jhu72
RedFromMI wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:07 am Reports that Pompeo forced Volker out when he found out State knew what Giuliani was doing in Ukraine:

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/pomp ... ng-mission

Not a good look for the SOS to be an active part of the conspiracy to dig dirt on Biden...
Never thought much of Pompeo's positions. Too much of a neocon for me. But never saw him as what he is now proving himself to be. If he had any honor, he would resign. He won't.

Re: IMPEACHMENT ...from Mueller to Ukraine to ??

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:28 am
by tech37
jhu72 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:22 am
tech37 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:37 am
jhu72 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:17 am
tech37 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:08 am
Trinity wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:59 am We’re trusting the IG that it’s urgent and credible.
Yeah but you're kind of insane ;)
So are you ready for that civil war being threatened? :roll:
Not surprised that one of the most extreme people on this board would post that...very typical :oops:
Other of Trump's supporters ("Deep State" delusionals) have gotten onboard already. The Oathkeepers have said they are ready. Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones, etc.

This is where we are. We ARE on the verge of a HOT civil war. Like in 1859. That’s where we are. And the Right has ZERO trust or respect for anything the left is doing. We see THEM as illegitimate too.@StewartRhodesOK

Aren't you afraid your "peers" will see you as lacking the appropriate fervor? ;)
Speaking of "peers"... when is the next Antifa gathering 72? Been brushing up with your sawn pipe and nunchucks? :lol:

Re: IMPEACHMENT ...from Mueller to Ukraine to ??

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:29 am
by 6ftstick
Gotta love Obamas self-proclaimed "WING MAN" lecturing us about how an Attorney General needs to behave.

These guys do know there's video tape right.

Re: IMPEACHMENT ...from Mueller to Ukraine to ??

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:32 am
by foreverlax
jhu72 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:27 am
RedFromMI wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:07 am Reports that Pompeo forced Volker out when he found out State knew what Giuliani was doing in Ukraine:

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/pomp ... ng-mission

Not a good look for the SOS to be an active part of the conspiracy to dig dirt on Biden...
Never thought much of Pompeo's positions. Too much of a neocon for me. But never saw him as what he is now proving himself to be. If he had any honor, he would resign. He won't.
At some point, if there is a there there, they will get some of the splatter created by the Skid Mark in Chief. Resign or go down with the ship.

No clue how it happens...Pompeo ascending to The Oval would make a lot of the Rs very happy.

Re: IMPEACHMENT ...from Mueller to Ukraine to ??

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:33 am
by 6ftstick
jhu72 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:27 am
RedFromMI wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:07 am Reports that Pompeo forced Volker out when he found out State knew what Giuliani was doing in Ukraine:

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/pomp ... ng-mission

Not a good look for the SOS to be an active part of the conspiracy to dig dirt on Biden...
Never thought much of Pompeo's positions. Too much of a neocon for me. But never saw him as what he is now proving himself to be. If he had any honor, he would resign. He won't.
What a crock of crap.

No one on the record to substantiate anything in the report. And WHO else would sit in on a call between a new head of state and the President besides the SOS. Now any cabinet member doing their job is impeachable. Liberals way off the deep end.

Re: IMPEACHMENT ...from Mueller to Ukraine to ??

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:34 am
by Typical Lax Dad
tech37 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:52 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:40 am
tech37 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:58 am
seacoaster wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:18 am MDlaxfan writes: "So, when a President and his toadies attack the whistleblower as a spy deserving to be executed or otherwise threaten the wellbeing of the whistleblower, when Trump and his toadies threatens those evaluating the merits of the claims as 'traitors', when Trump and his toadies warn/threaten 'civil war', we are in extremely dangerous but highly predictable territory with this cat. The whistleblower and others have legitimate fear for their lives.

And how can we blame those who use 'leaking' when they have such fears if discovered, yet believe the truth will only be in the open if they take risk?

Thus, when other folks make fun of the process done legally, or seek to discredit those blowing the whistle or those evaluating the claims, it promotes leakers trying to get truth out into the public without their identity being discovered."

Exactly. Good post, as usual.
IF the WB turns out to be legit. As usual you guys are way out over your skis...

"checks and balances" never included "whistleblowers" did it? Seems to me WB is an incredibly slippery slope especially in our hyper-partisan times. The whole concept and any laws associated need to be completely reevaluated IMO.
IG is partisan?
Surely then you'll be accepting the results of IG Horowitz's inquiry.
Just as I accepted the results of the Mueller probe. You believe we should eliminate the WB statute?

Re: IMPEACHMENT ...from Mueller to Ukraine to ??

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:35 am
by foreverlax
6ftstick wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:29 am Gotta love Obamas self-proclaimed "WING MAN" lecturing us about how an Attorney General needs to behave.

These guys do know there's video tape right.
Feel free to link to this scandal.... :lol:

Re: IMPEACHMENT ...from Mueller to Ukraine to ??

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:36 am
by tech37
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:34 am
tech37 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:52 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:40 am
tech37 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:58 am
seacoaster wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:18 am MDlaxfan writes: "So, when a President and his toadies attack the whistleblower as a spy deserving to be executed or otherwise threaten the wellbeing of the whistleblower, when Trump and his toadies threatens those evaluating the merits of the claims as 'traitors', when Trump and his toadies warn/threaten 'civil war', we are in extremely dangerous but highly predictable territory with this cat. The whistleblower and others have legitimate fear for their lives.

And how can we blame those who use 'leaking' when they have such fears if discovered, yet believe the truth will only be in the open if they take risk?

Thus, when other folks make fun of the process done legally, or seek to discredit those blowing the whistle or those evaluating the claims, it promotes leakers trying to get truth out into the public without their identity being discovered."

Exactly. Good post, as usual.
IF the WB turns out to be legit. As usual you guys are way out over your skis...

"checks and balances" never included "whistleblowers" did it? Seems to me WB is an incredibly slippery slope especially in our hyper-partisan times. The whole concept and any laws associated need to be completely reevaluated IMO.
IG is partisan?
Surely then you'll be accepting the results of IG Horowitz's inquiry.
Just as I accepted the results of the Mueller probe. You believe we should eliminate the WB statute?
Is that what I suggested? Best reread...

Re: IMPEACHMENT ...from Mueller to Ukraine to ??

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:36 am
by wahoomurf
“Words Words Words” (HAMLET II. ii. 210)
Coup, old-time punishment for treason, whistleblower, enemies of the people(the Press, the Fed, the Democrat House), Impeachment, never had a chance to read THE document, personal lawyer, the Squad, Happy 70th Anniversary China, Peter Navarro on our "solid rock economy", a Mexican Financed Wall, bullying, intimidation, Inspector General, acting DNI chief, Torquemada, the Secretary of State was on the call , Giuliani,Infrastructure, Patriotism,Vito Corleone, the U.S. Constitution,kids in cages,Stephen Miller, a hum job in a closet, Subpoena Brand Toilet Paper.:roll:

So many words to launch discussions with my grandkids. I'm terrified to hear one of them ask about the capital crime of "DEFEATISM" meted out to the Kreisau Circle in 1944-45. :o

Re: IMPEACHMENT ...from Mueller to Ukraine to ??

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:38 am
by Typical Lax Dad
tech37 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:36 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:34 am
tech37 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:52 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:40 am
tech37 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:58 am
seacoaster wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:18 am MDlaxfan writes: "So, when a President and his toadies attack the whistleblower as a spy deserving to be executed or otherwise threaten the wellbeing of the whistleblower, when Trump and his toadies threatens those evaluating the merits of the claims as 'traitors', when Trump and his toadies warn/threaten 'civil war', we are in extremely dangerous but highly predictable territory with this cat. The whistleblower and others have legitimate fear for their lives.

And how can we blame those who use 'leaking' when they have such fears if discovered, yet believe the truth will only be in the open if they take risk?

Thus, when other folks make fun of the process done legally, or seek to discredit those blowing the whistle or those evaluating the claims, it promotes leakers trying to get truth out into the public without their identity being discovered."

Exactly. Good post, as usual.
IF the WB turns out to be legit. As usual you guys are way out over your skis...

"checks and balances" never included "whistleblowers" did it? Seems to me WB is an incredibly slippery slope especially in our hyper-partisan times. The whole concept and any laws associated need to be completely reevaluated IMO.
IG is partisan?
Surely then you'll be accepting the results of IG Horowitz's inquiry.
Just as I accepted the results of the Mueller probe. You believe we should eliminate the WB statute?
Is that what I suggested? Best reread...
I know what you wrote. I was asking that specific question. You believe we should have WB laws but you don’t like this iteration. What don’t you like about it?