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WOMBAT, Mod Emeritus wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 8:08 am

51percentcorn wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:41 pm Some thoughts:
Pretty bad form on the recent Hopkins players IMO - they should follow Petro's lead - show some class - stay silent or cheer for the guys who are wearing the same uniform as you once did and going through some tough times. While there are no moral victories you have to admire the fight. Milliman didn't orchestrate Petro getting released and none of the current players did.

I have to admit I haven't watched the entire game yet - I couldn't watch it live - my DVR of course was set to ESPNU so I got a snootful of Bernhardt for 3-0 and then some awesome volleyball. The full game is up on youtube. So this is going to sound bad and ill informed but given the commentary on this thread I was surprised to learn from the stats that the Maryland goalie had more saves in the last 3 quarters and the Hopkins save percentage was still in the low 40's - 44 to be exact. I understand he had a flurry in the first quarter that kept the game from possibly really getting away but we once again need to pump our brakes. I'm very glad he got the opportunity and played reasonably well.

A defensive time out does reset the shot clock

So I assume Penn State is #3 in the BIG Final standings having beaten Ohio State twice? Does anyone know if Rutgers defeats Michigan does Hopkins end up 5th or 6th. A Wolverine upset would send Hopkins to State College I would guess?

I’ve been trying to figure that out. I agree that PSU is #3.

A 2-8 tie between Michigan and Hopkins doesn’t get resolved by head-to-head, because they split. Now, the goal differential in those two games favor Hopkins, but I don’t think that’s how the next tiebreaker works.

For other sports, it looks like the next tiebreaker is something like PF-PA. (Scored, Allowed). I’m not sure if that’s over all games, or whether they subtract out the scores of their own matchups and just include the totals against the other four teams.

You’d think a sports journalist somewhere would have scoped this all out. But, nah, yeah. Just wait until some time after 2 PM today.

WOMBAT, Mod Emeritus wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:52 am Women’s bracket:

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jrn19 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:11 am

WOMBAT, Mod Emeritus wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:52 am Women’s bracket:

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So if we assume the men’s follows a similar path; then Maryland as the 1 seed will face Ohio State or probably Hopkins (?) in the semifinal and Rutgers will face Penn State or probably Michigan (?) in the semifinals. I don’t think they’re going to reseed so if Michigan or Hopkins were the 6 and upset Penn State; they’d have to play Maryland

51percentcorn wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:46 am I'm not sure I agree with this new found talent stuff or that Hopkins - at 2-8 and riding a 6 game losing streak - is the team you don't want to play. On the face of it - they are exactly who you want to play because they haven't learned to win. In 6 of the 8 losses the 3rd/4th quarter issues are conspicuous:
- Tied with Rutgers going into the 4th quarter - lost by 5
- Tied with 10 minutes left with Penn State - lost by 3
- Down 1 with 5 minutes left to Michigan
- Down 1 going into the 4th quarter with Ohio State - immediately surrendered a goal to go down by 2 - lost by 2
- Tied with 2 minutes left in the 3rd with Rutgers - lost by 6
- Yesterday

So on the positive side - in every game except the first Rutgers game where they led for most of the first 3 quarters - every game has required at least a 3 goal comeback to make it a game - down 3 to Penn State - down 5 to Michigan - down 5 to Ohio State - down 3 twice to Rutgers - down 5 to Maryland - so they "never give up the fight until the fight is done" but they ARE losing the fights.

And NO I don't think its coaching

A victory in Columbus or State College is certainly not out of the realm of possibility but they have to figure out a way to a) not get boat raced in the first part of the game and b) go get it in the 4th. Otherwise let the rampant speculation begin.

jhu06 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:00 pm from the teams instagram page after the game. the diprospero/brown responses recieved more than 30 likes which you can see by clicking on the like. Benn, Greeley, etc.
jhumenslax
Baltimore city mandates limited attendance to just 250, but they got their money's worth. Not the result we were looking for, but another classic in lacrosse's greatest rivalry. #GoHop
diprospero
Can Ernie hit us with a stat for last time we were 2-8?
rbrownie4
Verified
@diprospero never
mdolente4
@diprospero preach

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:56 am

jhu06 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:00 pm from the teams instagram page after the game. the diprospero/brown responses recieved more than 30 likes which you can see by clicking on the like. Benn, Greeley, etc.
jhumenslax
Baltimore city mandates limited attendance to just 250, but they got their money's worth. Not the result we were looking for, but another classic in lacrosse's greatest rivalry. #GoHop
diprospero
Can Ernie hit us with a stat for last time we were 2-8?
rbrownie4
Verified
@diprospero never
mdolente4
@diprospero preach

I'm sorry, Eric DiProspero?? A career benchwarmer who was part of that famously great 2010 Hopkins team that went 7-8 (might have been 2-8 had they not gotten to play teams like Siena and Manhattan), lost to every good team they played, and then got absolutely humiliated by Duke? THAT is who is chirping on social media? 09-11 was really a terrific stretch for the program. So many playoff wins. So many memorable and impactful players like Eric who will go down in Hopkins lore as some of the greats.

If a player like Ryan Brown has issues, fine (though ideally they'd be voiced in private) but it doesn't carry much weight when it's coming from a guy who contributed nothing and whose teams accomplished very little. At the risk of sounding like 06, it was seasons like 2010 (there were others—2013, 2016, 2017, 2019, and 2020 come to mind) that got the coach replaced. The timing of the comment is also weird: Hopkins took a #1 undefeated team to the brink. Basically everyone outside the program is going "hm maybe Hopkins might have a future under this new coach" meanwhile you've got the peanut gallery rushing to the comments to dunk on their own alma mater immediately after a gut-wrenching loss to a big rival.

I don't know if the team will ever be successful again, but if they ever are, people will remember this fair-weather BS and who was and wasn't supportive of the program through tough times.

Back to the game—obviously you would like to see them close it out but the difference in the game was essentially two players—Bernhardt, who is the best player in the country, and Wisnauskas, who isn't far behind. That's it. The rest of lineups on both sides of the ball are not very far apart at all. Brett Makar is supposedly a 1st team All-American and DeSo made him look silly twice. You know, the kid Eric's coach had playing the wrong position for three years? Also, Marcille's 44% does not do justice to how good the kid was in his first career start. Really quick hands and explodes to the ball. Whereas we gave up 7+ softies against Rutgers, I think only 1 or 2 of Maryland's goals were of the soft variety.

I believe that if Michigan loses today we are almost certainly going to be the 5 seed based on goal differential, and will travel to Ohio State.

flalax22 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:22 pm

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:56 am

jhu06 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:00 pm from the teams instagram page after the game. the diprospero/brown responses recieved more than 30 likes which you can see by clicking on the like. Benn, Greeley, etc.
jhumenslax
Baltimore city mandates limited attendance to just 250, but they got their money's worth. Not the result we were looking for, but another classic in lacrosse's greatest rivalry. #GoHop
diprospero
Can Ernie hit us with a stat for last time we were 2-8?
rbrownie4
Verified
@diprospero never
mdolente4
@diprospero preach

I'm sorry, Eric DiProspero?? A career benchwarmer who was part of that famously great 2010 Hopkins team that went 7-8 (might have been 2-8 had they not gotten to play teams like Siena and Manhattan), lost to every good team they played, and then got absolutely humiliated by Duke? THAT is who is chirping on social media? 09-11 was really a terrific stretch for the program. So many playoff wins. So many memorable and impactful players like Eric who will go down in Hopkins lore as some of the greats.

If a player like Ryan Brown has issues, fine (though ideally they'd be voiced in private) but it doesn't carry much weight when it's coming from a guy who contributed nothing and whose teams accomplished very little. At the risk of sounding like 06, it was seasons like 2010 (there were others—2013, 2016, 2017, 2019, and 2020 come to mind) that got the coach replaced. The timing of the comment is also weird: Hopkins took a #1 undefeated team to the brink. Basically everyone outside the program is going "hm maybe Hopkins might have a future under this new coach" meanwhile you've got the peanut gallery rushing to the comments to dunk on their own alma mater immediately after a gut-wrenching loss to a big rival.

I don't know if the team will ever be successful again, but if they ever are, people will remember this fair-weather BS and who was and wasn't supportive of the program through tough times.

Back to the game—obviously you would like to see them close it out but the difference in the game was essentially two players—Bernhardt, who is the best player in the country, and Wisnauskas, who isn't far behind. That's it. The rest of lineups on both sides of the ball are not very far apart at all. Brett Makar is supposedly a 1st team All-American and DeSo made him look silly twice. You know, the kid Eric's coach had playing the wrong position for three years? Also, Marcille's 44% does not do justice to how good the kid was in his first career start. Really quick hands and explodes to the ball. Whereas we gave up 7+ softies against Rutgers, I think only 1 or 2 of Maryland's goals were of the soft variety.

I believe that if Michigan loses today we are almost certainly going to be the 5 seed based on goal differential, and will travel to Ohio State.

I agree that alumni chirping the program right now isn’t exactly helpful. But I still disagree with the notion that poor records are what showed Petro the door. Rightly or wrongly the new admins felt like Petro was an obnoxious tyrant. World views, approach, personality and style are what sent the staff out the door not Ws and Ls in my opinion.

As for Wombat mentioning the coaching shirts. That’s all tied into the change. That is exactly what the Baker Shanhan cabal are looking for. Can anyone picture Petro wearing that shirt? It’s the modern progressives vs old fashioned attitudes.

flalax22 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:22 pm Rightly or wrongly the new admins felt like Petro was an obnoxious tyrant. World views, approach, personality and style are what sent the staff out the door not Ws and Ls in my opinion.

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:56 am

jhu06 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:00 pm from the teams instagram page after the game. the diprospero/brown responses recieved more than 30 likes which you can see by clicking on the like. Benn, Greeley, etc.
jhumenslax
Baltimore city mandates limited attendance to just 250, but they got their money's worth. Not the result we were looking for, but another classic in lacrosse's greatest rivalry. #GoHop
diprospero
Can Ernie hit us with a stat for last time we were 2-8?
rbrownie4
Verified
@diprospero never
mdolente4
@diprospero preach

I'm sorry, Eric DiProspero?? A career benchwarmer who was part of that famously great 2010 Hopkins team that went 7-8 (might have been 2-8 had they not gotten to play teams like Siena and Manhattan), lost to every good team they played, and then got absolutely humiliated by Duke? THAT is who is chirping on social media? 09-11 was really a terrific stretch for the program. So many playoff wins. So many memorable and impactful players like Eric who will go down in Hopkins lore as some of the greats.

If a player like Ryan Brown has issues, fine (though ideally they'd be voiced in private) but it doesn't carry much weight when it's coming from a guy who contributed nothing and whose teams accomplished very little. At the risk of sounding like 06, it was seasons like 2010 (there were others—2013, 2016, 2017, 2019, and 2020 come to mind) that got the coach replaced. The timing of the comment is also weird: Hopkins took a #1 undefeated team to the brink. Basically everyone outside the program is going "hm maybe Hopkins might have a future under this new coach" meanwhile you've got the peanut gallery rushing to the comments to dunk on their own alma mater immediately after a gut-wrenching loss to a big rival.

I don't know if the team will ever be successful again, but if they ever are, people will remember this fair-weather BS and who was and wasn't supportive of the program through tough times.

Back to the game—obviously you would like to see them close it out but the difference in the game was essentially two players—Bernhardt, who is the best player in the country, and Wisnauskas, who isn't far behind. That's it. The rest of lineups on both sides of the ball are not very far apart at all. Brett Makar is supposedly a 1st team All-American and DeSo made him look silly twice. You know, the kid Eric's coach had playing the wrong position for three years? Also, Marcille's 44% does not do justice to how good the kid was in his first career start. Really quick hands and explodes to the ball. Whereas we gave up 7+ softies against Rutgers, I think only 1 or 2 of Maryland's goals were of the soft variety.

I believe that if Michigan loses today we are almost certainly going to be the 5 seed based on goal differential, and will travel to Ohio State.

WOMBAT, Mod Emeritus wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:06 pm

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:56 am

jhu06 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:00 pm from the teams instagram page after the game. the diprospero/brown responses recieved more than 30 likes which you can see by clicking on the like. Benn, Greeley, etc.
jhumenslax
Baltimore city mandates limited attendance to just 250, but they got their money's worth. Not the result we were looking for, but another classic in lacrosse's greatest rivalry. #GoHop
diprospero
Can Ernie hit us with a stat for last time we were 2-8?
rbrownie4
Verified
@diprospero never
mdolente4
@diprospero preach

I'm sorry, Eric DiProspero?? A career benchwarmer who was part of that famously great 2010 Hopkins team that went 7-8 (might have been 2-8 had they not gotten to play teams like Siena and Manhattan), lost to every good team they played, and then got absolutely humiliated by Duke? THAT is who is chirping on social media? 09-11 was really a terrific stretch for the program. So many playoff wins. So many memorable and impactful players like Eric who will go down in Hopkins lore as some of the greats.

If a player like Ryan Brown has issues, fine (though ideally they'd be voiced in private) but it doesn't carry much weight when it's coming from a guy who contributed nothing and whose teams accomplished very little. At the risk of sounding like 06, it was seasons like 2010 (there were others—2013, 2016, 2017, 2019, and 2020 come to mind) that got the coach replaced. The timing of the comment is also weird: Hopkins took a #1 undefeated team to the brink. Basically everyone outside the program is going "hm maybe Hopkins might have a future under this new coach" meanwhile you've got the peanut gallery rushing to the comments to dunk on their own alma mater immediately after a gut-wrenching loss to a big rival.

I don't know if the team will ever be successful again, but if they ever are, people will remember this fair-weather BS and who was and wasn't supportive of the program through tough times.

Back to the game—obviously you would like to see them close it out but the difference in the game was essentially two players—Bernhardt, who is the best player in the country, and Wisnauskas, who isn't far behind. That's it. The rest of lineups on both sides of the ball are not very far apart at all. Brett Makar is supposedly a 1st team All-American and DeSo made him look silly twice. You know, the kid Eric's coach had playing the wrong position for three years? Also, Marcille's 44% does not do justice to how good the kid was in his first career start. Really quick hands and explodes to the ball. Whereas we gave up 7+ softies against Rutgers, I think only 1 or 2 of Maryland's goals were of the soft variety.

I believe that if Michigan loses today we are almost certainly going to be the 5 seed based on goal differential, and will travel to Ohio State.

Goal differential of just the two head-to-head games, or the entire conference play, or the conference minus their two game scores? Helluva I know. What do you think?

I’m told that because Michigan lost to Rutgers by one, the goal-difference tie-breaker was tied and there’ll be a coin toss for seeds 5 & 6.

I love coin tosses for seeding.

AreaLax wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 2:30 pm Per Terry Foy twitter

I’m told that because Michigan lost to Rutgers by one, the goal-difference tie-breaker was tied and there’ll be a coin toss for seeds 5 & 6.

I love coin tosses for seeding.