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lorin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 8:37 am

Asgot wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 8:30 am

Henpecked wrote: ↑Mon Jun 13, 2022 11:03 pm Canyon Birch was an early commit to Army before switching to Penn State. He scored 100s of goals in south jersey in HS. Wonder if he’s someone Brecht would take a flyer on?

Surprised that Madronic hasn’t made a decision yet. Has connections from HS at Notre Dame. He can play attack or midfield. Would seemingly be a good fit there…but maybe he wants to play for a tournament team?

Pass, Birch feasted on the bad competition at the shore and while he is a good shooter, never thought he was athletic enough to be a bit time D1 player

Hofstra would be a good fit for Birch IMO.

Advocating a transfer take time from a kid already in the program?! Tsk tsk.

Air Force: Aidan Tolen (A)
Army: Marcus Hudgins (D)
Bellarmine: Matt Ury (LSM) #
Binghamton: Teddy Dolan (G) #-> Maryland, Kevin Winkoff (A) #
Boston U.: Christian Brofft (M)
Brown: George Pike (M) #, Darian Cook (A) #, Cameron Fiore (G) #, Andy Demopoulos (G), Brian Antonelli (A)#
Bryant: Logan McGovern (A) #, Bennet Abladian (A)
Bucknell: Alston Tarry (A) #, Jack Van Slyke (G)#
Canisius: Johnny Richiusa (FO)
Colgate: Thor Adamec (LSM) #, Will Sidari (D) #, Ryan Decker (M) #-> Rutgers, Brian Minicus (A) # -> Georgetown
Dartmouth: Peter Rizzotti (LSM) #, Danny Hincks (G) #->Georgetown
Delaware: Peter Ripperger (G) #
Denver: Tim Sheehan (M), Ethan Kriss (FO), Alex Simmons (A/M) # -> Syracuse
Drexel: Brennan Greenwald (LSM) #
Fairfield: Kyle Borda (M) #, James Corasaniti (G) #, Tyler Wuchte (M) #, Trevor Ford (M) #, Patrick Drake (M) #, Brendan Dreyer (M) #, David Dorsett (M) #, Brian Reda (A) #
Georgetown: Dylan Watson (A) # -> Jacksonville
Harvard: Austin Madronic (A) #, Jackson Hartje (LSM) #, Oliver Hollo (LSM/D) #, Kyle Mullin(G) # ->Rutgers
High Point: Devon Buckshot (A), Tyler Hendrycks (A)
Hobart: Derrek Madonna (M) #, Ryan Dickson (FO) #
Hofstra: Jacob Addeche (G) #
Holy Cross: Peter Dobbs (G) #, Chris Conlin (D) #-> Notre Dame, AJ Fox (G) #
Lehigh: Tommy Schelling (A) #, Cole Kirst (A) # -> Syracuse
LIU: Richie LaCalandra (A) -> OSU
Loyola: Riley Seay (M) #, Patrick Yowan (G) and Joey Annetta (D)
Marist: JT Roselle (LSM)
Marquette: Hudson Thomson (A), Russell Melendez (A)-> Johns Hopkins
Maryland: Jack Schirtzer (D), Michael Ubriaco (LSM) #, Justin Sherrer (LSM)
Mercer: Sean Goldsmith (A) # -> UNC, Matthew Winegardner (A) -> Marquette
Michigan: Ronald Fisher (M), John Kiracofe (G)# -> Towson, Gavin Legg (LSM) #
Mount St. Mary’s: Jake Kreiger (M) #, Jared McMahon (A) #, Connor McMahon(M) #-> Bryant
North Carolina: Jacob Kelly (A) # ~> Georgetown, Nicky Solomon (A) # -> Georgetown, Chase Mullins (FO) -> Penn State
Notre Dame: Davis Allen (M) # ->Fairfield, Griffin Hawthorne (D) #
Penn: Jamie Zusi (FO) #
Penn State: Brody Firestein (M), Lake Baker (FO), Canyon Birch (A)
Providence: Richie Hughson (FO)-> Penn State
Quinnipiac: Owen Boss (A), Will Abbott (M) #
Richmond: Griffin Kology (D) -> Virginia
Robert Morris: James Christoforatos (D) #
Rutgers: Cole Daninger (SSDM) #, Jonathan Taub (D) #
Sacred Heart: Donovan Lacey (M) # -> Maryland
Saint Joseph’s: Jake Engelke (A)
Siena: Sean Swenson (D)
St. John's: Jonathan Huber (A) #-> Stony Brook
Stony Brook: Anthony Palma (G) #
Syracuse: Tucker Dordevic (M) #->Georgetown, Mikey Berkman (A) #, Jack Savage (FO), Shahe Katchadurian (G), Jack Kennedy (D), Matteo Corsi (A/M), Bobby Gavin (G)
Towson: Mo Sillah (LSM) #, Drew Martin (M) #
Utah: Bryce Cheek (G) #
UMass Lowell: Conor Foley (A)
UMBC: Nick Dupuis (A)
Vermont: Thomas McConvey (M) # -> Virginia, Salvatore Iaria (M)
Virginia: Corbin Switzer (D), Jack Simmons (M) # -> Notre Dame, Connell Kumar (M)
Wagner: Stephen Dwyer (A) # -> St. Joe's
Yale: Joe Neuman (FO) # -> Rutgers, Chris Fake (D) #, Brian Tevlin (M) #, Luke Eschbach (M) #

Division 2/3
Amherst (D3): PJ Clementi (A) #
Catholic (D3): Kevin Crowley (A) #
Christopher Newport (D3): Brady Altobello (M) #
Gettysburg (D3): Griffin Gallagher (M) #, Tate Keinzle (DM) #
Lynchburg: Kyle Lewis (A) # -> OSU
Nichols: Scott Ehrenberg (FO) # -> Merrimack
Salisbury (D3): Jarrett Bromwell (M) #
St. Lawrence (D3): William Helm (G) #
Kenyon (D3): Joe Bolea (ssdm) # -> Syracuse, Declan Curry (M)# -> Sacred Heart

Key
* = in the portal for 2024 season
# = Graduate Transfer
BOLD = most recent update

Derrek Madonna has to be a hot pickup for someone in a blue blood program . . . 33 goals in 11 games as a middie and 5 Man Up. TWO 6 goal games AS A MIDDIE.

How isn't he on the wish list of many teams needing a piece to make a playoff run?

LeeRoggy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:30 pm Derrek Madonna has to be a hot pickup for someone in a blue blood program . . . 33 goals in 11 games as a middie and 5 Man Up. TWO 6 goal games AS A MIDDIE.

How isn't he on the wish list of many teams needing a piece to make a playoff run?

Richmond is his likely destination, wants to play with his brother.

JeremyCuse wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:42 pm

LeeRoggy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:30 pm Derrek Madonna has to be a hot pickup for someone in a blue blood program . . . 33 goals in 11 games as a middie and 5 Man Up. TWO 6 goal games AS A MIDDIE.

How isn't he on the wish list of many teams needing a piece to make a playoff run?

Richmond is his likely destination, wants to play with his brother.

Then why hasn't he announced that yet? Been out there a while (and his brother likely could have gone to Hobart originally too).

LeeRoggy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 15, 2022 6:33 am

JeremyCuse wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:42 pm

LeeRoggy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:30 pm Derrek Madonna has to be a hot pickup for someone in a blue blood program . . . 33 goals in 11 games as a middie and 5 Man Up. TWO 6 goal games AS A MIDDIE.

How isn't he on the wish list of many teams needing a piece to make a playoff run?

Richmond is his likely destination, wants to play with his brother.

Then why hasn't he announced that yet? Been out there a while (and his brother likely could have gone to Hobart originally too).

I know nothing of Madonna's plans but not every kid "announces" his new destination. Some just quietly make a decision and unless you know him directly are not going to find out about it immediately.

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 15, 2022 9:28 am

LeeRoggy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 15, 2022 6:33 am

JeremyCuse wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:42 pm

LeeRoggy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:30 pm Derrek Madonna has to be a hot pickup for someone in a blue blood program . . . 33 goals in 11 games as a middie and 5 Man Up. TWO 6 goal games AS A MIDDIE.

How isn't he on the wish list of many teams needing a piece to make a playoff run?

Richmond is his likely destination, wants to play with his brother.

Then why hasn't he announced that yet? Been out there a while (and his brother likely could have gone to Hobart originally too).

I know nothing of Madonna's plans but not every kid "announces" his new destination. Some just quietly make a decision and unless you know him directly are not going to find out about it immediately.

JHU can certainly use him

All-MAAC D Ryan Sharky(can) to UMass. Hearing several other Griffs in the portal.

UVA midfielder Connell Kumar has entered the transfer portal.

So will all all these guys in the portal be able to be enrolled for this fall - or how does that usually go? I assume there is a deadline at somepoint - right?

Dave wrote: ↑Wed Jun 15, 2022 1:31 pm So will all all these guys in the portal be able to be enrolled for this fall - or how does that usually go? I assume there is a deadline at somepoint - right?

They can enroll probably up until the school year starts. I think for the grad students it's actually getting into the programs they are specifically looking for.

1766 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 15, 2022 3:46 pm

Dave wrote: ↑Wed Jun 15, 2022 1:31 pm So will all all these guys in the portal be able to be enrolled for this fall - or how does that usually go? I assume there is a deadline at somepoint - right?

They can enroll probably up until the school year starts. I think for the grad students it's actually getting into the programs they are specifically looking for.

I suspect many, maybe even most, student-athletes entering the transfer portal do not find a new home. Just the way it is, as transfer opportunities are limited.

DocBarrister

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Wed Jun 15, 2022 11:26 pm

1766 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 15, 2022 3:46 pm

Dave wrote: ↑Wed Jun 15, 2022 1:31 pm So will all all these guys in the portal be able to be enrolled for this fall - or how does that usually go? I assume there is a deadline at somepoint - right?

They can enroll probably up until the school year starts. I think for the grad students it's actually getting into the programs they are specifically looking for.

I suspect many, maybe even most, student-athletes entering the transfer portal do not find a new home. Just the way it is, as transfer opportunities are limited.

DocBarrister

I suspect going into the portal is like leaving a job most kids will already have a landing spot before they enter portal, some might have a couple of options like Hudgins so might take some time to decide.

lorin wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 6:34 am

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Wed Jun 15, 2022 11:26 pm

1766 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 15, 2022 3:46 pm

Dave wrote: ↑Wed Jun 15, 2022 1:31 pm So will all all these guys in the portal be able to be enrolled for this fall - or how does that usually go? I assume there is a deadline at somepoint - right?

They can enroll probably up until the school year starts. I think for the grad students it's actually getting into the programs they are specifically looking for.

I suspect many, maybe even most, student-athletes entering the transfer portal do not find a new home. Just the way it is, as transfer opportunities are limited.

DocBarrister

I suspect going into the portal is like leaving a job most kids will already have a landing spot before they enter portal, some might have a couple of options like Hudgins so might take some time to decide.

I would equate the transfer portal more with what it is rather than a job analogy. Potential transfers are applying to a new school and have to be accepted to the school, accepted to their desired program, have sufficient funding available and of course the lacrosse aspect. Some have not taken GRE but will later on. Some are taking summer school. Some are finding out the school they want will not accept some (all in some cases) of their classes. Some are not even admitted.

I had a long talk with some staff members of an athletic department that has been mentioned as a light player (i.e. few transfers brought in) and they said the portal is a very low priority as the school is not making any exceptions to help transfers.

Air Force: Aidan Tolen (A)
Army: Marcus Hudgins (D)
Bellarmine: Matt Ury (LSM) #
Binghamton: Teddy Dolan (G) #-> Maryland, Kevin Winkoff (A) #
Boston U.: Christian Brofft (M)
Brown: George Pike (M) #, Darian Cook (A) #, Cameron Fiore (G) #, Andy Demopoulos (G), Brian Antonelli (A)#
Bryant: Logan McGovern (A) #, Bennet Abladian (A)
Bucknell: Alston Tarry (A) #, Jack Van Slyke (G)#
Canisius: Johnny Richiusa (FO)
Colgate: Thor Adamec (LSM) #, Will Sidari (D) #, Ryan Decker (M) #-> Rutgers, Brian Minicus (A) # -> Georgetown
Dartmouth: Peter Rizzotti (LSM) #, Danny Hincks (G) #->Georgetown
Delaware: Peter Ripperger (G) #
Denver: Tim Sheehan (M), Ethan Kriss (FO), Alex Simmons (A/M) # -> Syracuse
Drexel: Brennan Greenwald (LSM) #
Fairfield: Kyle Borda (M) #, James Corasaniti (G) #, Tyler Wuchte (M) #, Trevor Ford (M) #, Patrick Drake (M) #, Brendan Dreyer (M) #, David Dorsett (M) #, Brian Reda (A) #
Georgetown: Dylan Watson (A) # -> Jacksonville
Harvard: Austin Madronic (A) #, Jackson Hartje (LSM) #, Oliver Hollo (LSM/D) #, Kyle Mullin(G) # ->Rutgers
High Point: Devon Buckshot (A), Tyler Hendrycks (A)
Hobart: Derrek Madonna (M) #, Ryan Dickson (FO) #
Hofstra: Jacob Addeche (G) #
Holy Cross: Peter Dobbs (G) #, Chris Conlin (D) #-> Notre Dame, AJ Fox (G) #
Lehigh: Tommy Schelling (A) #, Cole Kirst (A) # -> Syracuse
LIU: Richie LaCalandra (A) -> OSU
Loyola: Riley Seay (M) #, Patrick Yowan (G) and Joey Annetta (D)
Marist: JT Roselle (LSM)
Marquette: Hudson Thomson (A), Russell Melendez (A)-> Johns Hopkins
Maryland: Jack Schirtzer (D), Michael Ubriaco (LSM) #, Justin Sherrer (LSM)
Mercer: Sean Goldsmith (A) # -> UNC, Matthew Winegardner (A) -> Marquette
Michigan: Ronald Fisher (M), John Kiracofe (G)# -> Towson, Gavin Legg (LSM) #
Mount St. Mary’s: Jake Kreiger (M) #, Jared McMahon (A) #, Connor McMahon(M) #-> Bryant
North Carolina: Jacob Kelly (A) # ~> Georgetown, Nicky Solomon (A) # -> Georgetown, Chase Mullins (FO) -> Penn State
Notre Dame: Davis Allen (M) # ->Fairfield, Griffin Hawthorne (D) #
Penn: Jamie Zusi (FO) #
Penn State: Brody Firestein (M), Lake Baker (FO), Canyon Birch (A)
Providence: Richie Hughson (FO)-> Penn State
Quinnipiac: Owen Boss (A), Will Abbott (M) #
Richmond: Griffin Kology (D) -> Virginia
Robert Morris: James Christoforatos (D) #
Rutgers: Cole Daninger (SSDM) #, Jonathan Taub (D) #
Sacred Heart: Donovan Lacey (M) # -> Maryland
Saint Joseph’s: Jake Engelke (A)
Siena: Sean Swenson (D)
St. John's: Jonathan Huber (A) #-> Stony Brook
Stony Brook: Anthony Palma (G) #
Syracuse: Tucker Dordevic (M) #->Georgetown, Mikey Berkman (A) #, Jack Savage (FO), Shahe Katchadurian (G), Jack Kennedy (D), Matteo Corsi (A/M), Bobby Gavin (G)
Towson: Mo Sillah (LSM) #, Drew Martin (M) #
Utah: Bryce Cheek (G) #
UMass Lowell: Conor Foley (A)
UMBC: Nick Dupuis (A)
Vermont: Thomas McConvey (M) # -> Virginia, Salvatore Iaria (M)
Virginia: Corbin Switzer (D), Jack Simmons (M) # -> Notre Dame, Connell Kumar (M)
Wagner: Stephen Dwyer (A) # -> St. Joe's
Yale: Joe Neuman (FO) # -> Rutgers, Chris Fake (D) #, Brian Tevlin (M) #, Luke Eschbach (M) #

Division 2/3
Amherst (D3): PJ Clementi (A) #
Bowdoin (D3): Donal Mullane (A)# -> Maryland
Catholic (D3): Kevin Crowley (A) #
Christopher Newport (D3): Brady Altobello (M) #
Gettysburg (D3): Griffin Gallagher (M) #, Tate Keinzle (DM) #
Lynchburg: Kyle Lewis (A) # -> OSU
Nichols: Scott Ehrenberg (FO) # -> Merrimack
Salisbury (D3): Jarrett Bromwell (M) #
St. Lawrence (D3): William Helm (G) #
Kenyon (D3): Joe Bolea (ssdm) # -> Syracuse, Declan Curry (M)# -> Sacred Heart

Key
* = in the portal for 2024 season
# = Graduate Transfer
BOLD = most recent updated

Dip&Dunk wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 7:42 am

lorin wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 6:34 am

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Wed Jun 15, 2022 11:26 pm

1766 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 15, 2022 3:46 pm

Dave wrote: ↑Wed Jun 15, 2022 1:31 pm So will all all these guys in the portal be able to be enrolled for this fall - or how does that usually go? I assume there is a deadline at somepoint - right?

They can enroll probably up until the school year starts. I think for the grad students it's actually getting into the programs they are specifically looking for.

I suspect many, maybe even most, student-athletes entering the transfer portal do not find a new home. Just the way it is, as transfer opportunities are limited.

DocBarrister

I suspect going into the portal is like leaving a job most kids will already have a landing spot before they enter portal, some might have a couple of options like Hudgins so might take some time to decide.

I would equate the transfer portal more with what it is rather than a job analogy. Potential transfers are applying to a new school and have to be accepted to the school, accepted to their desired program, have sufficient funding available and of course the lacrosse aspect. Some have not taken GRE but will later on. Some are taking summer school. Some are finding out the school they want will not accept some (all in some cases) of their classes. Some are not even admitted.

I had a long talk with some staff members of an athletic department that has been mentioned as a light player (i.e. few transfers brought in) and they said the portal is a very low priority as the school is not making any exceptions to help transfers.

It’s pretty simple. To speak with a coach at another school (and for another school’s coach to speak with you), you must either be in the portal or admitted to the school and have paid the deposit. So, there are guys in the latter category who are “undetected” by the portal watchers. Those in the portal are likely talking with several coaches.

Fake and Tevlin -> ND
Kyle Borda -> OSU
Lake Baker -> Rollins
Jack Savage -> Chapman

Air Force: Aidan Tolen (A)
Army: Marcus Hudgins (D)
Bellarmine: Matt Ury (LSM) #
Binghamton: Teddy Dolan (G) #-> Maryland, Kevin Winkoff (A) #
Boston U.: Christian Brofft (M)
Brown: George Pike (M) #, Darian Cook (A) #, Cameron Fiore (G) #, Andy Demopoulos (G), Brian Antonelli (A)#
Bryant: Logan McGovern (A) #, Bennet Abladian (A)
Bucknell: Alston Tarry (A) #, Jack Van Slyke (G)#
Canisius: Johnny Richiusa (FO)
Colgate: Thor Adamec (LSM) #, Will Sidari (D) #, Ryan Decker (M) #-> Rutgers, Brian Minicus (A) # -> Georgetown
Dartmouth: Peter Rizzotti (LSM) #, Danny Hincks (G) #->Georgetown
Delaware: Peter Ripperger (G) #
Denver: Tim Sheehan (M), Ethan Kriss (FO), Alex Simmons (A/M) # -> Syracuse
Drexel: Brennan Greenwald (LSM) #
Fairfield: Kyle Borda (M) # -> OSU, James Corasaniti (G) #, Tyler Wuchte (M) #, Trevor Ford (M) #, Patrick Drake (M) #, Brendan Dreyer (M) #, David Dorsett (M) #, Brian Reda (A) #
Georgetown: Dylan Watson (A) # -> Jacksonville
Harvard: Austin Madronic (A) #, Jackson Hartje (LSM) #, Oliver Hollo (LSM/D) #, Kyle Mullin(G) # ->Rutgers
High Point: Devon Buckshot (A), Tyler Hendrycks (A)
Hobart: Derrek Madonna (M) #, Ryan Dickson (FO) #
Hofstra: Jacob Addeche (G) #
Holy Cross: Peter Dobbs (G) #, Chris Conlin (D) #-> Notre Dame, AJ Fox (G) #
Lehigh: Tommy Schelling (A) #, Cole Kirst (A) # -> Syracuse
LIU: Richie LaCalandra (A) -> OSU
Loyola: Riley Seay (M) #, Patrick Yowan (G) and Joey Annetta (D)
Marist: JT Roselle (LSM)
Marquette: Hudson Thomson (A), Russell Melendez (A)-> Johns Hopkins
Maryland: Jack Schirtzer (D), Michael Ubriaco (LSM) #, Justin Sherrer (LSM)
Mercer: Sean Goldsmith (A) # -> UNC, Matthew Winegardner (A) -> Marquette
Michigan: Ronald Fisher (M), John Kiracofe (G)# -> Towson, Gavin Legg (LSM) #
Mount St. Mary’s: Jake Kreiger (M) #, Jared McMahon (A) #, Connor McMahon(M) #-> Bryant
North Carolina: Jacob Kelly (A) # ~> Georgetown, Nicky Solomon (A) # -> Georgetown, Chase Mullins (FO) -> Penn State
Notre Dame: Davis Allen (M) # ->Fairfield, Griffin Hawthorne (D) #
Penn: Jamie Zusi (FO) #
Penn State: Brody Firestein (M), Lake Baker (FO) -> Rollins (D2), Canyon Birch (A)
Providence: Richie Hughson (FO)-> Penn State
Quinnipiac: Owen Boss (A), Will Abbott (M) #
Richmond: Griffin Kology (D) -> Virginia
Robert Morris: James Christoforatos (D) #
Rutgers: Cole Daninger (SSDM) #, Jonathan Taub (D) #
Sacred Heart: Donovan Lacey (M) # -> Maryland
Saint Joseph’s: Jake Engelke (A)
Siena: Sean Swenson (D)
St. John's: Jonathan Huber (A) #-> Stony Brook
Stony Brook: Anthony Palma (G) #
Syracuse: Tucker Dordevic (M) #->Georgetown, Mikey Berkman (A) #, Jack Savage (FO) -> Chapman (MCLA), Shahe Katchadurian (G), Jack Kennedy (D), Matteo Corsi (A/M), Bobby Gavin (G)
Towson: Mo Sillah (LSM) #, Drew Martin (M) #
Utah: Bryce Cheek (G) #
UMass Lowell: Conor Foley (A)
UMBC: Nick Dupuis (A)
Vermont: Thomas McConvey (M) # -> Virginia, Salvatore Iaria (M)
Virginia: Corbin Switzer (D), Jack Simmons (M) # -> Notre Dame, Connell Kumar (M)
Wagner: Stephen Dwyer (A) # -> St. Joe's
Yale: Joe Neuman (FO) # -> Rutgers, Chris Fake (D) # -> Notre Dame, Brian Tevlin (M) # -> Notre Dame, Luke Eschbach (M) #

Division 2/3
Amherst (D3): PJ Clementi (A) #
Bowdoin (D3): Donal Mullane (A)# -> Maryland
Catholic (D3): Kevin Crowley (A) #
Christopher Newport (D3): Brady Altobello (M) #
Gettysburg (D3): Griffin Gallagher (M) #, Tate Kienzle (DM) #
Lynchburg: Kyle Lewis (A) # -> OSU
Nichols: Scott Ehrenberg (FO) # -> Merrimack
Salisbury (D3): Jarrett Bromwell (M) #
St. Lawrence (D3): William Helm (G) #
Kenyon (D3): Joe Bolea (ssdm) # -> Syracuse, Declan Curry (M)# -> Sacred Heart

Key
* = in the portal for 2024 season
# = Graduate Transfer
BOLD = most recent updated

Fake and Tevlin to ND!

That defense is gonna be nuts!

Njlaxx11 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:56 pm Fake and Tevlin to ND!

That defense is gonna be nuts!

Is it? I’m not sure who is returning but they were all Seniors. Do their starters have a C19 year? Really good goalie but …

They're losing Cohen, Reynolds, and Douglass. So they do need to reload.