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steel_hop wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:23 am

nyjay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 19, 2021 1:53 pm

Agree re the B1G - facing MD (a historically great shooting team) and Rutgers certainly doesn't help save% and it contributes to the fact that the four worst goalies in D1 save% are all in the B1G. And the two who aren't at the bottom don't have to face their own teams. So, yeah, I'm well aware of the limits of my "analysis", such as it is. But still, the numbers are really, really bad.

Kirson hasn't passed the eye test to me either. Didn't see this last Rutgers games, but the games I've seen he seems to alternate between guessing (a lot of dropping on high shots in particular) and being late in his movement to a shot. This, I think, is indicative of him being in his own head a bit, overthinking and not playing naturally.

Yeah, and that is what I am talking about. If a guy can't shake off a bad game and starts to spiral there isn't much you can do. He needs to work his way out of it. If he can't better to know that now than down the road next season when it might really matter.

Further, I am really only posting this because there is no way this should almost fall off the page.

dammit. it was so close before the bump. i almost commented on the caa and the maac.

Is Hopkins allowing fans beyond parents?

Good Article on Towson's season on IL site:

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... ent-/57730

Team started 2-5, now they're 6-6.

"So in a Monday film study, coach Shawn Nadelen’s message wasn’t to shake things up and make drastic changes."

"Fast forward a month and Towson is 6-6 (3-3 CAA). The Tigers have won four of the last five, beaten two Top 20 opponents, and completed the rare feat of winning three games in the span of one week, beating Fairfield, Hofstra and UMass."

Much different trajectory to their season than Hop's. Coaching matters.

AreaLax wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:51 am Is Hopkins allowing fans beyond parents?

The word that I have is that the problem is Baltimore, which has a maximum of 250 people. This overrules the less restrictive state requirements.

Baltimore granted an exception for the Orioles and Pimlico, to 25% capacity.

Unless Baltimore relents this week, expect no change in policy.

BTW, this is why Loyola is limiting attendance too.

Quint Kessenich @QKessenich @TerpsMLax asst. coach Bob Benson joins us tonight on Yard Sale. 8pm @USLacrosse Youtube page. @AnishESPN @paulcarcaterra say goodbye to the reLax’in jinx.
-If quint and carc are really journalists they'll ask him about a number of issues that have been raised here for years about what went wrong at homewood, what his role was, and what he feels he could've done differently. Not taking anything from his work w/the terps, but the success they're having is an extension of what's transpired there for awhile.

jhu06 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:10 pm Quint Kessenich @QKessenich @TerpsMLax asst. coach Bob Benson joins us tonight on Yard Sale. 8pm @USLacrosse Youtube page. @AnishESPN @paulcarcaterra say goodbye to the reLax’in jinx.
-If quint and carc are really journalists they'll ask him about a number of issues that have been raised here for years about what went wrong at homewood, what his role was, and what he feels he could've done differently. Not taking anything from his work w/the terps, but the success they're having is an extension of what's transpired there for awhile.

I wouldn’t hold your breath waiting for those kinds of questions. It will probably be a lot about Carc’s favorite Italian restaurant, Quint’s latest workout, and Anish’s hair.

LaxPundit07 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:39 pm

jhu06 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:10 pm Quint Kessenich @QKessenich @TerpsMLax asst. coach Bob Benson joins us tonight on Yard Sale. 8pm @USLacrosse Youtube page. @AnishESPN @paulcarcaterra say goodbye to the reLax’in jinx.
-If quint and carc are really journalists they'll ask him about a number of issues that have been raised here for years about what went wrong at homewood, what his role was, and what he feels he could've done differently. Not taking anything from his work w/the terps, but the success they're having is an extension of what's transpired there for awhile.

I wouldn’t hold your breath waiting for those kinds of questions. It will probably be a lot about Carc’s favorite Italian restaurant, Quint’s latest workout, and Anish’s hair.

quint+these 2 pundits orchestrated a drive by assassination of PM+his staff last week. If they want to have any kind of credibility moving forward they need to ask Benson some of the questions that have been raised here by 51 and others for a long time about the early recruiting mistakes, the roster he left milliman on the offensive end, what lack of support Petro talked about on his goodbye media tour, the may flameouts etc. In many ways Benson has a lot more responsibility for the 2-7 he's facing on saturday than PM does. The playing your alma mater and what it's like to coach the teenage mutant ninja tillman turtles (that is a cool tee shirt idea they should steal) was covered at length earlier.

on the nadelen has more wins narrative-desko has a 22 year head start as hc of his storied program, yet only 3 more wins, could easily miss the tournament, and his storied 22 was just bounced.

jhu06 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:15 pm

LaxPundit07 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:39 pm

jhu06 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:10 pm Quint Kessenich @QKessenich @TerpsMLax asst. coach Bob Benson joins us tonight on Yard Sale. 8pm @USLacrosse Youtube page. @AnishESPN @paulcarcaterra say goodbye to the reLax’in jinx.
-If quint and carc are really journalists they'll ask him about a number of issues that have been raised here for years about what went wrong at homewood, what his role was, and what he feels he could've done differently. Not taking anything from his work w/the terps, but the success they're having is an extension of what's transpired there for awhile.

I wouldn’t hold your breath waiting for those kinds of questions. It will probably be a lot about Carc’s favorite Italian restaurant, Quint’s latest workout, and Anish’s hair.

quint+these 2 pundits orchestrated a drive by assassination of PM+his staff last week. If they want to have any kind of credibility moving forward they need to ask Benson some of the questions that have been raised here by 51 and others for a long time about the early recruiting mistakes, the roster he left milliman on the offensive end, what lack of support Petro talked about on his goodbye media tour, the may flameouts etc. In many ways Benson has a lot more responsibility for the 2-7 he's facing on saturday than PM does. The playing your alma mater and what it's like to coach the teenage mutant ninja tillman turtles (that is a cool tee shirt idea they should steal) was covered at length earlier.

on the nadelen has more wins narrative-desko has a 22 year head start as hc of his storied program, yet only 3 more wins, could easily miss the tournament, and his storied 22 was just bounced.

I dont have much hope for any journalistic integrity tonight. It will be about who Bobby knows in Yorktown and if he wants to warm up the goalies at Quints goalie camp this summer.

'06 = while I do agree with you that the 3 chuckleheads of the yard sale did commit journalistic crime on PM - you really should not have ANY expectations that they will fire some tough questions about the current or prior Hopkins team to a now Maryland Asisstant Coach. It would be extrmeley unfair to Benson BTW. He coached the players he was given - he was not the final architect of any Hopkins team. If asked about Hopkins I can't imagine you would get anything other than "they played us extremely tough in the first game and we expect another challenge as we try to complete an undefeated regular season." End of story

jhu06 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:10 pm Quint Kessenich @QKessenich @TerpsMLax asst. coach Bob Benson joins us tonight on Yard Sale. 8pm @USLacrosse Youtube page. @AnishESPN @paulcarcaterra say goodbye to the reLax’in jinx.
-If quint and carc are really journalists they'll ask him about a number of issues that have been raised here for years about what went wrong at homewood, what his role was, and what he feels he could've done differently. Not taking anything from his work w/the terps, but the success they're having is an extension of what's transpired there for awhile.

They’re not journalists. They don’t claim to be. Nothing about what they do is journalism. They’re employed by ESPN as TV commentators. I don’t love Quint or Carc either but this obsession you have with them getting in the dirt and proving their journalism cred is bizarre. They’ve never claimed or been presented as “journalists.” The only person who apparently thinks they’re journalists is...you

51percentcorn wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:13 pm '06 = while I do agree with you that the 3 chuckleheads of the yard sale did commit journalistic crime on PM - you really should not have ANY expectations that they will fire some tough questions about the current or prior Hopkins team to a now Maryland Asisstant Coach. It would be extrmeley unfair to Benson BTW. He coached the players he was given - he was not the final architect of any Hopkins team. If asked about Hopkins I can't imagine you would get anything other than "they played us extremely tough in the first game and we expect another challenge as we try to complete an undefeated regular season." End of story

the star of the interview was bensons wife from his description and there wasn't anything really jhu related. anish and carc are pretty awful.

None of these jocks went to J-School.

And of course, J-School graduates are crowning themselves with glory of late.

Are these guys classically trained journalists - of course not - but the journalism and news lines have clearly been blurred by web-sites, blogs, podcasts, social media etc. Journalism is the wrong word probably but they are the most recognized media outlets for lacrosse news and lacrosse opinion. So, IMO, they are somewhat subject to the integrity component of the journalism definition which is "Journalism is the production and distribution of reports on current events based on facts and supported with proof or evidence." So do I think the New York Times or the Washington Post should hire Quint/Carc/Anish because they are journalists? Absolutely not - of course not. But do I think they should be obligated to either preface pieces like they did on the Epstein thing with blinking lights that this is absolute speculation and nonsense OR maybe try to get some facts along the way? Yes. Like it or not - IL - IL's web-site and QK/Carc are how ALOT of people consume their lacrosse "news".

51percentcorn wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:42 am Are these guys classically trained journalists - of course not - but the journalism and news lines have clearly been blurred by web-sites, blogs, podcasts, social media etc. Journalism is the wrong word probably but they are the most recognized media outlets for lacrosse news and lacrosse opinion. So, IMO, they are somewhat subject to the integrity component of the journalism definition which is "Journalism is the production and distribution of reports on current events based on facts and supported with proof or evidence." So do I think the New York Times or the Washington Post should hire Quint/Carc/Anish because they are journalists? Absolutely not - of course not. But do I think they should be obligated to either preface pieces like they did on the Epstein thing with blinking lights that this is absolute speculation and nonsense OR maybe try to get some facts along the way? Yes. Like it or not - IL - IL's web-site and QK/Carc are how ALOT of people consume their lacrosse "news".

Sure; I agree that Quint just dropping kernels of info in his Top 20 poll and then retreating to his bunker till the weekend games where Anish and Carc discuss Netflix for 45 minutes in between a lacrosse game. But 06 seems to view these guys as beat reporters or journalists and they're not paid to tell us the nitty gritty details of stories in lacrosse; they're paid to commentate on it and mostly games.

The people who are paid to do the former is IL; who routinely cover for coaches by not reporting the full truth on mundane stuff on coaching searches, or omitting the true facts and info on much more serious stories. They're the problem

51percentcorn wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:42 am Are these guys classically trained journalists - of course not - but the journalism and news lines have clearly been blurred by web-sites, blogs, podcasts, social media etc. Journalism is the wrong word probably but they are the most recognized media outlets for lacrosse news and lacrosse opinion. So, IMO, they are somewhat subject to the integrity component of the journalism definition which is "Journalism is the production and distribution of reports on current events based on facts and supported with proof or evidence." So do I think the New York Times or the Washington Post should hire Quint/Carc/Anish because they are journalists? Absolutely not - of course not. But do I think they should be obligated to either preface pieces like they did on the Epstein thing with blinking lights that this is absolute speculation and nonsense OR maybe try to get some facts along the way? Yes. Like it or not - IL - IL's web-site and QK/Carc are how ALOT of people consume their lacrosse "news".

I fully agree with 51 here.

I will add this:

If you were to pin QK down on key people who have significantly influenced his career, there is one name that I would hope he would mention early and prominently.

In the early days of WMAR-TV coverage, QK had Scott Garceau as a mentor. He would do well to remember and apply what he learned from those days with Mr. Garceau.

I have no idea how and where Carc and Anish popped into the broadcast world. Maybe it was just volunteering, raising their hands and yelling “Me! Me! Me!” That’s sure as how hell their broadcasting comes off, centered on being the focus.

You are supposed to be the Storytellers, not the Story.

And Professionals, not Amateurs.

The one who came out of the WMAR work and learned the most from Scott Garceau and others is Mark Dixon. He gets it.

WOMBAT, Mod Emeritus wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:06 am

51percentcorn wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:42 am Are these guys classically trained journalists - of course not - but the journalism and news lines have clearly been blurred by web-sites, blogs, podcasts, social media etc. Journalism is the wrong word probably but they are the most recognized media outlets for lacrosse news and lacrosse opinion. So, IMO, they are somewhat subject to the integrity component of the journalism definition which is "Journalism is the production and distribution of reports on current events based on facts and supported with proof or evidence." So do I think the New York Times or the Washington Post should hire Quint/Carc/Anish because they are journalists? Absolutely not - of course not. But do I think they should be obligated to either preface pieces like they did on the Epstein thing with blinking lights that this is absolute speculation and nonsense OR maybe try to get some facts along the way? Yes. Like it or not - IL - IL's web-site and QK/Carc are how ALOT of people consume their lacrosse "news".

I fully agree with 51 here.

I will add this:

If you were to pin QK down on key people who have significantly influenced his career, there is one name that I would hope he would mention early and prominently.

In the early days of WMAR-TV coverage, QK had Scott Garceau as a mentor. He would do well to remember and apply what he learned from those days with Mr. Garceau.

I have no idea how and where Carc and Anish popped into the broadcast world. Maybe it was just volunteering, raising their hands and yelling “Me! Me! Me!” That’s sure as how hell their broadcasting comes off, centered on being the focus.

You are supposed to be the Storytellers, not the Story.

And Professionals, not Amateurs.

The one who came out of the WMAR work and learned the most from Scott Garceau and others is Mark Dixon. He gets it.

All very good points. There is also a big difference in careers for Mark and QK. QK was a star goalie that received all the accolades that entails. Mark's lax career was very different. He wasn't anywhere near a star player. That certainly provides some difference in how they subconsciously broadcast a game i.e. one is more about the game than the other and I leave it at that. Further, as far as I know, Mark has a day job and he does this for the love of the game. QK's job is to be on TV - does sideline reporting for ESPN in other sports - I think primarily football but I've seen him on college wrestling and horse racing broadcasts. Dixon does only lax centric stuff - obviously the B1G network stuff and his podcast with Dan Flynn on IL.

Sagittarius A* wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:34 am Much different trajectory to their season than Hop's. Coaching matters.

I would like to ask a simple question in response to this. In 2020 Towson Men's Lacrosse:
- Lost to Johns Hopkins by 8 goals
- Didn't "Should have" lost to MSM like Hopkins - Actually LOST to MSM
- Lost to Cornell by 7
- Lost to Loyola by 9
- Lost to UMBC by 5 (Doubled up 10-5)
- Lost to Gergetown by 12

Summary 0-6 - outscored by 42 goals in 6 games. So your honor - my question is this:
Why didn't the "Coaching matters" apply in this situation?

-Over the last year quint has taken shots at Daniels/Shanahan/Baker on the record w/out backed up facts in the Sun and on IL, spent the last 2 weeks assassinating Milliman/staff w/out any reporting and then has benson on his show who played a significant role in the present state of the program and praises his work. No one expects the 911 commission but that was pretty bad.
-Even though they're now mid career espn folks, it's hard for me to tell the difference between carc/anish and the 22 year old espn put out there for the ohio state/hop broadcast who didn't know that he was covering johns not john hopkins. I always thought the kids from uva and princeton did better jobs.

If Nads had started his Hopkins tenure with a suspension due to an NCAA violation, as he did with Towson this season, Sag may have literally taken hostages. Can you imagine?

If he'd have looked at the stats I shared he'd see that the team HAS improved from last year, especially defensively, with mostly the same players. I know it requires a modicum of thinking but you have to look deeper than win-loss record—especially this year. The team is more competitive than they were last year. Fact. They're not getting blown out by halftime. Fact. This team probably wouldn't need overtime (and some extremely good luck) to beat Mount St. Mary's this year—okay I guess that is subjective, but I think it's true.

You don't have to be happy with 2-7—I sure am not—to acknowledge any of that. There's this thing called "nuance."

I am with 51—wake me up in 2023 if we're still 2-7 at this point in the season. I have a hunch we won't be. News flash: The program is getting a facelift. A lot is changing. A lot HAD to change, quite frankly. The project isn't close to finished. I would say "give it time" but we already know some are incapable of doing that.