Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2019 12:16 pm
Brooklyn wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2019 12:05 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:11 am
So...with the last 4 digits of social, you Do NOT need a photo ID to register... right?
Or are my "cognitive thinking skills a lost art" too?
Don't Need a photo ID to register nor to vote...but you do need some sort of proof of existence!
Bingo!
Funny how he mentions "lost cognitive skills" but, evidently, is lacking in those same skills.
In fact here in Lake WOEbegone if your name doesn't appear on the list of qualified voters you can have someone vouch for you and attest to the fact you reside in that district so that you can make your vote. It nearly happened to me a few years back where for some unknown reason my name did not appear among the list of eligible voters in my district. It turns out that one of the volunteers at the voting booth knew me and said she would vouch for my eligibility. However, I had on me a campaign advertisement from a non-partisan group which read "Remember to Vote - Go to District" such and such. This was deemed sufficient evidence of my eligibility and I proceeded to vote with out any form of photo ID or formal registration or re-registration.
We show an ID whenever we vote. Match the name with the address. You can vote one time. Would love to hear how many people have been told “we have a record of you already voting. You can’t vote...”...The whole idea of making it more difficult to vote is far more than “you need an ID”... I have yet to see any real evidence that voter fraud is rampant. We had a huge local scandal about “voter fraud” that is always cited. At the end of the investigation it turned out to be nothing be people only remembered the accusations and headlined. Like I said, in this country, we want it to be harder to vote than it is to own an assault weapon. Nuts.
If I'm not mistaken, in the past 40 years there have been zero cases of
proven substantial voter fraud. Bunch of screeching accusations, but investigation never pans out to more than a handful of mistakes. Every once in awhile some shenanigans but penny ante in scale.
We
do face substantial voter suppression efforts though. Not always as large an impact as some might suggest, but serious and purposeful efforts made to discourage or make highly difficult the voting by certain groups of voters. Ugly stuff, kinda disgusting if you actually believe in our system of representative democracy.
Brooklyn, I wonder for instance what your experience might have been if your skin was not 'white' (making an assumption here) and you were in a GOP dominated district...waved on up to the voting booth or told to get back on the bus and get a voter ID card? Not that insistence on some sort of proof that you actually should be able to vote is beyond the pale, but it's not likely applied evenly.
I do think we need to worry about digital manipulation of the vote, flat out fraud, but that's wholly different than the question of individual voter fraud, double voting, non-citizen voting etc.