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norcalhop wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 1:55 am AQs upsets will make many strong teams left out this year.

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 10:00 am

norcalhop wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 1:55 am AQs upsets will make many strong teams left out this year.

“Coffee’s for closers.”

faircornell wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 11:10 pm All tremendously worthy honorees. Congratulations to them. As I noted on the Cornell thread, it is a bit surprising that Ryan Goldstein received no recognition. Goldstein led the Ivy Frosh in both goals (14) and points (22).

10stone5 wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 11:13 am

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 10:00 am

norcalhop wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 1:55 am AQs upsets will make many strong teams left out this year.

“Coffee’s for closers.”

Always Be Closing

joewillie78 wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 7:22 am

DA/PU wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 5:42 am

The Orfling wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 12:26 am

DA/PU wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 11:28 pm I would be pretty annoyed if big East gets 3 teams and Ivy only 1. Big East is not that strong top to bottom. Only the AQ at this point gives ivies any peace of mind. League deserves an at large IMO but a lot to shake out with upset minded nova and Michigan. Psu looks legit though.

I am guessing Cornell still makes it into the NCAAs, along with the AQ winner (Penn or Princeton). I could also see both Penn and Princeton getting in, maybe, with Cornell on the outside looking in, if Princeton wins the AQ. Penn is sitting at #9 in RPI after tonight's games; Cornell at #12; Yale #13. It would be quite frustrating for the Big Red to be iced out with the close losses to ND and Denver but the RPI math is tough to overcome and the RPI that gaveth in 2022 may taketh in 2024.

There's a world where the Ivy League could have gotten 3 bids, but a few too many high-profile out of conference losses (Penn to Georgetown and UNC; Yale to PSU; Cornell to Denver and PSU; Princeton to Syracuse and Maryland) signals that it's not in the cards, even though the Ivies had some reasonably good out-of-conference wins also (Penn over Duke; Yale over Denver; Harvard over Michigan; Cornell over Syracuse). If the Ivy League is a 1-bid team that will be frustrating but it can happen in bid-stealing seasons when the RPI of a conference takes a hit with a couple of teams that really struggle out of conference (Dartmouth and Brown this year).

I continue to think that Princeton, although inconsistent earlier in the year, is closing strong: their defense looks pretty good; their FOGO McMeekin has heated up; Gianforcaro on a good day is as good as any goalie in the country; and they can score in bunches with Mackesy, Kabiri, Burns et al. I am thinking they repeat the regular season result and beat Penn to get the AQ, and if they are the unseeded 9 team the 8 seed will not like the matchup . . . not one little bit.

As a Princeton guy I’m thrilled with how their young squad is playing. Penn will be really tough. Carroll can shut the door on any team if he plays like he did last night.

If Princeton beats Penn, surely Cornell is OUT, and if I were a Penn fan (much like I was in 2019, when Cornell beat ND at ND), I would be extremely upset if they chose Cornell OVER Penn, after Penn beat Cornell TWICE, and one of those at a place where no one has beaten Cornell up until last night.

Look, I'm a diehard Cornell fan, but Penn beat us TWICE, and deserves the bid over Cornell, win or lose.

Gobigred
Joewillie78

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 1:43 pm

10stone5 wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 11:13 am

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 10:00 am

norcalhop wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 1:55 am AQs upsets will make many strong teams left out this year.

“Coffee’s for closers.”

Always Be Closing

One of my favorite films. I also saw the play. It was great.

b1w7o9y7h wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 2:14 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 1:43 pm

10stone5 wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 11:13 am

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 10:00 am

norcalhop wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 1:55 am AQs upsets will make many strong teams left out this year.

“Coffee’s for closers.”

Always Be Closing

One of my favorite films. I also saw the play. It was great.

A lesser known parody classic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_vSirIJEsY

10stone5 wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 11:19 am Quakers really hammered Cornell’s offensive players,
of course, especially Kirst.

It looked to me the intimidation factor was part of the game
plan, and Quakers were willing to live with the penalties
given Carroll is in net.

Not convinced that will work against Princeton.

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 1:14 pm

faircornell wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 11:10 pm All tremendously worthy honorees. Congratulations to them. As I noted on the Cornell thread, it is a bit surprising that Ryan Goldstein received no recognition. Goldstein led the Ivy Frosh in both goals (14) and points (22).

Is that just in Ivy play your referencing because Nate kabiri has 50pts right now

10stone5 wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 11:19 am Quakers really hammered Cornell’s offensive players,
of course, especially Kirst.

It looked to me the intimidation factor was part of the game
plan, and Quakers were willing to live with the penalties
given Carroll is in net.

Not convinced that will work against Princeton.

faircornell wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 6:25 pm

10stone5 wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 11:19 am Quakers really hammered Cornell’s offensive players,
of course, especially Kirst.

It looked to me the intimidation factor was part of the game
plan, and Quakers were willing to live with the penalties
given Carroll is in net.

Not convinced that will work against Princeton.

If the body slam, hit from behind and hit on the head were part of the game plan, there should have been elections. I thought that the hit from behind was particularly dangerous.

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 9:45 pm

faircornell wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 6:25 pm

10stone5 wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 11:19 am Quakers really hammered Cornell’s offensive players,
of course, especially Kirst.

It looked to me the intimidation factor was part of the game
plan, and Quakers were willing to live with the penalties
given Carroll is in net.

Not convinced that will work against Princeton.

If the body slam, hit from behind and hit on the head were part of the game plan, there should have been elections. I thought that the hit from behind was particularly dangerous.

You really think that is a possibility? Based on what? Does Penn have a rep for poor sportsmanship I'm unaware of?

UMDLAX wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2024 8:50 am Congrats to Princeton and Penn for making the Ivy League Finals. Well done!

I was fortunate enough to meet many, many Princeton fans and families before their Yale game. Wonderful group!

However, is it really necessary to have some big tall guy in the stands shouting at the opposing team and parents the entire game?
Did not care to hear him shouting his opinion that Coach Shay did not deserve his award.

We are all in this together. It's just a game after all.
His behavior was reprehensive and should not be tolerated by the Princeton faithful.

The Orfling wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2024 3:16 pm Congratulations to Princeton; they are playing great right now and if I were a seeded team I wouldn’t love facing them in the NCAAs. The announcers think it will be one Ivy bid, so we will see. A lot of upsets at the Conference tournament AQ level broke the wrong way from an Ivy bid perspective, but certainly are fun from an “any given day” perspective.

The Orfling wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2024 3:16 pm Congratulations to Princeton; they are playing great right now and if I were a seeded team I wouldn’t love facing them in the NCAAs. The announcers think it will be one Ivy bid, so we will see. A lot of upsets at the Conference tournament AQ level broke the wrong way from an Ivy bid perspective, but certainly are fun from an “any given day” perspective.